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pduffy4
24-06-2009, 11:47 AM
Kurt Sonnenfeld: There were many things, in hindsight, that were disturbing at Ground Zero. It was odd to me that I was dispatched to go to New York even before the second plane hit the South Tower, while the media was still reporting only that a “small plane” had collided with the North Tower — far too small of a catastrophe at that point to involve FEMA . FEMA was mobilized within minutes, whereas it took ten days for it to deploy to New Orleans to respond to Hurricane Katrina, even with abundant advance warning! It was odd to me that all cameras were so fiercely prohibited within the secured perimeter of Ground Zero, that the entire area was declared a crime scene and yet the “evidence” within that crime scene was so rapidly removed and destroyed. And then it was very odd to me when I learned that FEMA and several other federal agencies had already moved into position at their command center at Pier 92 on September 10th, one day before the attacks!

Quote taken form here http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=2722

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amandaooo
24-06-2009, 12:18 PM
He's probably protected himself with regards to the photo/video footage but really, if I were him I would put them into the public domain asap and come into the limelight as that way, it's a lot harder to discreetly clean this up.

the nine
24-06-2009, 12:25 PM
Quote taken form here http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=2722

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excellent find PD :)

yozhik
24-06-2009, 01:08 PM
pduffy4 ... great interview/article.
Thanks for posting!

anthony65
24-06-2009, 01:14 PM
It was weird that they reported a small plane.

I remember that was the first I heard on the day and I gave it no notice.

Why would anyone refer to a small plane?

yozhik
24-06-2009, 01:20 PM
It was weird that they reported a small plane.

I remember that was the first I heard on the day and I gave it no notice.

Why would anyone refer to a small plane?

because;
a) it looked like a small plane
b) the "plants" who were repeatedly interviewed hadn't had enough opportunity to change the story yet
c) the media hadn't had time to flood us with the government's fiction/policy

the nine
24-06-2009, 01:23 PM
It was weird that they reported a small plane.

I remember that was the first I heard on the day and I gave it no notice.

Why would anyone refer to a small plane?

because then it would be considered a tragic accident, nothing more, 'everyone carry on doing what you where doing'.
then..'my god, its terrorsim, who could have possibley conceived such an event?' :rolleyes:
if it had been reported, and the hijackings had been reported in real time, the whole world would have smelled something fishy going on, especially after the second plane hit WTC, no way could they have justified allowing the pentagon hit..
the media releases were clearly well thought out and planned too. IMHO.

anthony65
24-06-2009, 01:55 PM
because then it would be considered a tragic accident, nothing more, 'everyone carry on doing what you where doing'.
then..'my god, its terrorsim, who could have possibley conceived such an event?' :rolleyes:
if it had been reported, and the hijackings had been reported in real time, the whole world would have smelled something fishy going on, especially after the second plane hit WTC, no way could they have justified allowing the pentagon hit..
the media releases were clearly well thought out and planned too. IMHO.


That's pretty much my thoughts.

Reporting the "small plane" kept the world's attention away for a few critical minutes while Norad and others were stubbornly ignoring the unfolding drama.

"Commercial airliner hits world trade center" would have attracted everyone's attention.

Choreographed from first to last...

With the occasional hitch (such as reporting that WTC7 had already fallen when it hadn't...)

elysiumfire
24-06-2009, 02:15 PM
Much has been said about (and is currently being said) regarding the 'training drills' being carried out on the day, which I think was the excuse given as to why many emergency personel were in the area at the time. It's like explaining to the Russians why a large gathering of US and NATO troops are amassing in Georgia..."Ah yes old boy, it's merely a training exercise." It's a great way to position your pieces before making checkmate.

I tend to lean towards the idea that 9/11 was allowed to unfold in order to use the attack to gain compliance from the American population for conflicts around the world, and to bring in greater draconian legislation to lessen the rights of the American people. This places the then American governmental administration as terrorist accomplices to the actual attack. Following this concept begins to bring understanding to the behaviour of Bush & Co. as they went about their facist business in the ad-hoc and haphazard style they did. The whole administration from start to finish was one utter lie, and after 9/11 became layer upon layer of lies.

The fact that the American administration has 'changed' still does not, nor will it ever, bring closure to 9/11, until the whole rotten edifice of Bush's administration is brought to criminal trial...and that is the same for the UK, and the part our government played in the lies.

real6
24-06-2009, 02:36 PM
http://www.voltairenet.org/article160666.html

Buenos Aires

May 8, 2009

Statement by Kurt Sonnenfeld:

I want to convey my deepest gratitude to Adolfo Perez Esquivel, to Rolando Graña and to my wife Paula for accompanying me tonight, and to all the people and organizations that have helped me and my family. And to Ignacio Iraola and Mariano Valerio of Editorial Planeta for giving me a voice. You are all exemplars of courage and the fight for justice.

There has never been an independent commission officially assigned to investigate the horrible events that occurred on September 11, 2001, although independent commissions for tragedies of this magnitude are customary. From the beginning, the investigation into the attacks on the World Trade Center has been tightly controlled directly from the White House. And now almost all of the evidence has been destroyed.

Does anyone believe the official version offered as to what happened on September 11, 2001? There are many who say that the wildest conspiracy theory of all is the theory offered by the United States Government. Do you know that on the weekend prior to the attacks on the WTC, all electricity was cut off for approximately 36 hours, including the security cameras and control systems in a highly irregular “maintenance operation”? Do you know that in the weeks leading up to the attacks there were several unusual evacuations of both towers? Do you know that the company in charge of security at the World Trade Center was directed by Marvin Bush, George Bush’s younger brother, and Wirt Walker III, George Bush’s cousin? Do you know that the same security company also lists as government clients "the U.S. Army, U.S. Navy, U.S Air force, and the Department of Justice," and provides security for classified and high-risk government sites? Do you know that hundreds of government personnel were pre-positioned in New York City on September 10, preparing to do a large scale simulation of a terrorist attack to be carried out on September 12? FEMA officials had already set up their command post at Pier 92 near the World Trade Center one day before the attacks.

Do you know that the 47-story Salomon Smith Barney Building, officially known as Seven World Trade Center, imploded at 5:20 in the afternoon of September 11, 2001, some nine hours after American Airlines Flight 11 struck the North Tower? It took only about 6.5 seconds for the entire structure to fall straight down into itself, a half second more than the amount of time it would have taken a stone to hit the ground if you had dropped it from the roof in a vacuum. The collapse of Building Seven left a curiously small and tidy rubble pile, and the buildings to either side of it were relatively undamaged. It had not been hit by an airplane and had suffered only minor injuries to its structure when the Twin Towers collapsed.

The Secret Service, the Department of Defense, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Internal Revenue Service, the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Office of Emergency Management’s “Crisis Center” occupied huge amounts of space there, spanning several floors of the building. Other federal agencies had offices there as well. After September 11, it was discovered that concealed within Building Seven was the largest clandestine domestic station of the Central Intelligence Agency outside of Washington DC, a base of operations from which to spy on diplomats of the United Nations and to conduct counterterrorism and counterintelligence missions.

But the 9/11 Commission Report, supposed to investigate thoroughly all aspects and consequences of the attacks for devising public safety and national security recommandations, does not even mention Building Seven, its collapse, nor the bizarre specifics of that collapse. Nor did NIST, the government agency assigned to investigate the collapse of the Twin Towers. Like the 9/11 Commission, they completely ignored the suspicious collapse of Building Seven procrastinating the publication of their report time and again. [1]

Do you know that one of George Bush’s top Cabinet Secretaries later said that the conquest of Iraq had been planned since he first took the Office of President and that an invasion had been discussed at the first meeting of the National Security Council? But there had not yet been justification strong enough to invade. Not until September 11, 2001. The attacks on the World Trade Center gave them the justification they had been seeking.

But the first casualty of all war is the truth. The reasons given for attacking Iraq were knowingly fraudulent. Intelligence documents that had been submitted as evidence were deliberately fabricated. There were no Weapons of Mass Destruction and there were no links to al Qaeda. We all know that the U.S. authorities tried to deceive us about the existence of clandestine prisons around the world and the systemic torture of prisoners. The U.S. government lied. International law was violated.

Again the media was manipulated, and some willingly played the role of accomplice. US news crews signed contracts with the military that limited what they were allowed to report, and a few reporters were even paid by the government to write stories favorable to the administration. As Josef Goebbels said, “He who controls the medium controls the message.” And thus the aggression continued.

My book is not about conspiracy theories, but I do offer my theory. And my theory is that there was a conspiracy and I approach the subject from my point of view and experience. But mostly it is about the bizarre events that have happened (and are still happening) to me after my tour of duty at Ground Zero.

I was at the world Trade Center. I was part of the official investigation. Previously I had been an official videographer for the US government in critical or catastrophic situations. I’ve done work characterized as confidential at many classified and maximum security locations related to the storage, development and transportation of nuclear, biological and chemical weapons or their components and participated in simulations and training for disasters, catastrophic accidents and terrorist incidents for many different agencies.

Immediately after the attacks on the World Trade Center, the entire area in lower Manhattan was sealed off to the public and to the news media. All cameras were prohibited inside the secured perimeter and any “unauthorized” cameras were immediately confiscated. I was given total and absolute access, however, and was instructed to document for the investigation and to provide some “sanitized” pool video to virtually every news network in the world. But I never handed my tapes over to the authorities.

Since then, over the course of the past seven years, I have been falsely accused, imprisoned twice in two different countries, tortured, put in solitary confinement, followed across two continents and slandered relentlessly in a campaign to dehumanize me so that no one will protest and to discredit me so that when I talk, no one will listen. Four years ago, the US embassy sent a note to Argentine officials to confiscate all of my possessions and documents and to remit them to the United States. To this day, my wife, my twin daughters and I live in a closed world surrounded by threat and harassment.

I wrote this book to save my family.

Scarlett, Paula, Kurt and Natasha Sonnenfeld

I would like to read the last few pages to you:

It’s been a few years since President Bush stood up on a cannon mount atop the deck of the USS Abraham Lincoln and exultantly shouted “mission accomplished” to the cheering troops who stood below him.

Since then, Saddam Hussein’s regime has been “decapitated”. Saddam himself was nearly decapitated, too. When he was hanged in front of a mocking crowd, his vertebrae shattered and ripped a large wound through the side of his neck. Two weeks later, when they hanged Saddam’s half brother, Barzan Ibrahimal-Tikriti, his head was completely torn away from his body, and both parts dropped to the ground beneath the gallows, convulsing and gushing torrents of blood.

But still the fighting continues. The region is more destabilized and resentments are strong. And hundreds of thousands of people have died in a war justified by lies and by fraud. More deaths and more lies are sure to follow.

Recently I saw photos, posted on-line by a German magazine, of an Iraqi boy only about three or four years old. He had been burned so badly by a phosphorous bomb that his skin had melted away. You could see the white bones of his ribs, and he had no fingers, no lips, no eyelids. But he was not “al qaeda”. Almost none, if any, of the casualties were. They were not “axis of evil”. They were not “haters of freedom”. They were babies, mothers, fathers, grandmothers, grandfathers, sisters and brothers, too. People who care and people who cry. Their deaths cannot be summarily dismissed as “collateral damage”.

What is the cost of a war? Who pays and who gains? War is expensive, but the money has to go somewhere. War is very profitable for the very few. And somehow their sons always end up in Washington DC, making the decisions and writing the budgets, while the sons of the poor and the poorly connected always end up on the enemy lines, taking their orders and fighting their battles. Many people have the hope that this will all end with the current administration. But it won’t. It’s been going on for a long time, in one way or another, and it won’t stop. The legacies live on.

If I’m lucky, and if God is willing, I will never go back to America. It’s the best I can hope for. But that’s okay. I have Paula. I have Scarlett and Natasha, too. And that’s all I need. And as unlikely as it once seemed to me, I have hopes, too. That’s more than I could ask for.

But its strange how memories keep sneaking up behind me, tapping on my consciousness and re-introducing themselves like some old forgotten friend. Sometimes when I walk past a fountain or a pond, I recall my father taking me to the lake when I was a child, throwing me high up into the air so I could splash down into the water. And after I grew up, going fishing with him at the same lake. And when the sky of the late afternoon is particularly golden, I recall my mother and I driving in the mountains, just the two of us, stopping to pick up garbage along the highway. When the wind blows, I think of riding fast on motorcycles with my brother. And when I listen to music, sometimes I remember all the long talks I used to have with my sister while she played her favorite records. And I always think about Mark, patiently teaching me the small details of television production or the big generalities of philosophy and religion. How I miss the people I might never see again. Sometimes I ache for them! And how I miss the mountains! The smell of lavender in the summer, the smell of snow in the winter, the smell of pine logs burning in fireplaces all year long.

I remember once shooting a segment on “cartoneros” for Graña’s program, “Informe Central”. The producer, Miguel, wanted a documentary portrayal of what life was like for them as they searched the streets at night for discarded recyclables to sell. It was almost midnight when we climbed into the back of their big communal truck to ride along with them to their homes in the villa, and everyone was in a good mood. As we bounced along through the city, balanced haphazardly atop the mountain of cartons they had collected, we interviewed a precocious teenage boy. More accurately, we just let him talk and recorded it all on tape. But then he began to ask about me. What was I doing there? Why was an American working as a cameraman for an Argentinean television show? How did that happen? They were good questions, and I tried to answer them. But the camera was rolling, my Vari-Lite was burning, and our story was about his life and not mine. And so to keep it brief, Miguel told the boy that I had once stepped into a time machine and traveled back in time. While I was in the past, I touched something that I shouldn’t have. And when I returned to the present, everything was different. I thought that was a better explanation than I could have ever offered.

Recently, we were in a café near the Plaza de Mayo. Paula was talking on the cell phone. Scarlett was busily occupied with sugar packets and napkins and Natasha was immersed in drawing pictures with her finger in a little pool of water on the table. The café was insulated from the noise on the street, and it was quiet inside, too. I just sat there, thinking, my arms folded across my chest, and watched through the window at the busy hustle on the street and the people as they walked by. I looked at their eyes and tried to imagine what was their experience of life. Here is a businessman hurrying by. And there a doctor. And there, perhaps a lawyer. A delivery boy, an engineer, a secretary, a waiter. On the corner was a shoe shiner. On the curb a drunk. Some are blessed. Some are cursed. By God, by nature, by man, or by circumstance. What triumphs had catapulted them to their heights? What tragedies had knocked them to their depths? And what surprises lay in wait to change their direction completely?

No one knows if they won’t die of some terrible disease, be badly injured in an accident, be killed by an airplane crashing into a building, be kidnapped, be falsely accused, be chased across continents, lose everything. We can’t know. We can never have that solace. Fundamentally, we are all terrified. We all decay and die, despite the illusions we create for ourselves.

I too was once hurrying by café windows on my way to work, full of plans and hopes, getting things done. And then an extraordinary series of events occurred, and all of that was gone, replaced by threats and dangers from all sides. When I first arrived here, I didn’t have much hope that I would last another month. But then, as if by a miracle, Paula came into my life, and I squeezed out a few more drops of grace from this world that was at once beautiful and horrible. Now I rather like it here. I want to stay for awhile.

What do we think about when we think of paradise? That everything is beautiful and that there are no threats to us. What is it that we imagine when we imagine happiness? It’s that we no longer have to defend ourselves.(“El Perseguido”, pages 383 - 386)

I sincerely thank you for honoring us here today with your presence. Thank you everyone! And thank you Argentina, the land of my wife Paula, the country we have chosen for our daughters, and also my country.

Thank you.

anthony65
24-06-2009, 02:48 PM
Much has been said about (and is currently being said) regarding the 'training drills' being carried out on the day, which I think was the excuse given as to why many emergency personel were in the area at the time. It's like explaining to the Russians why a large gathering of US and NATO troops are amassing in Georgia..."Ah yes old boy, it's merely a training exercise." It's a great way to position your pieces before making checkmate.

I tend to lean towards the idea that 9/11 was allowed to unfold in order to use the attack to gain compliance from the American population for conflicts around the world, and to bring in greater draconian legislation to lessen the rights of the American people. This places the then American governmental administration as terrorist accomplices to the actual attack. Following this concept begins to bring understanding to the behaviour of Bush & Co. as they went about their facist business in the ad-hoc and haphazard style they did. The whole administration from start to finish was one utter lie, and after 9/11 became layer upon layer of lies.

The fact that the American administration has 'changed' still does not, nor will it ever, bring closure to 9/11, until the whole rotten edifice of Bush's administration is brought to criminal trial...and that is the same for the UK, and the part our government played in the lies.

I agree with you about the training drill, but there was more to US government involvement than allowing things to unfold.

There was much more to it than that.

WTC7 being just one example.

The pentagon another.

real6
24-06-2009, 02:57 PM
The book’s ISBN is 978-950-49-2057-1 and it seems to be available (Spanish only) here:

http://www.libreriapaidos.com/libros/1/950492057.asp

The official website for the book is here: http://elperseguido.wordpress.com

Direct Link
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2296490368603788739

ronisron
24-06-2009, 03:02 PM
More people who were involved are coming forward. Great stuff.

strengthofknowledge
24-06-2009, 03:10 PM
I cant believe that by now the entire global population isnt aware that 911 was an inside job... The evidence is so ridiculously blatantly obvious that its insane.. but oh well doesnt matter much anyway, the worlds ending and we cant stop natural disasters brought by God so pray and fess up to your sins...

decim
24-06-2009, 04:16 PM
Awesome he has a book for sale.

When he releases a dvd of the "secret" tapes he has, the evidence will be indisputable.

Can't wait..

wildhorse
24-06-2009, 04:26 PM
great...I wonder if the sheeple will stop chewing grass and go 'uh?'

:rolleyes:

I hope so, oh boy I hope so....but I hope they start to see more than just the 9/11 truth, how about every truth, and every lie, naked in all its glory?

amandaooo
24-06-2009, 09:07 PM
I've heard the line: "They probably LET it happen" many times and I have to strongly disagree. No doubt the video/photographic footage will show evidence of thermite. Also, remember the man (can't recall his name or vid I watched but it gave me the shivers) who stated that a few weeks prior to 9/11 the landing above him was empty but he could hear all sorts of mechanical works going on. When he went up to investigate he just saw an empty floor with noone in it (if someone can give me a link to that I would appreciate it).

So basically; with the whole security, (Jeb Bush et al) it points directly to an inside job. Once you take into account WTC7 and the time it would take to "pull it" it points only to the people who had direct access and security to enter said buildings and place the detonators without cause for concern WEEKS prior to the event.

I find it amazing that people could look at anyone and think that they are "conspiracy nuts" for coming to a conclusion that seems very reasonable if you gather enough facts. It's a sad reflection of society that it's only when celebrities come out and state their opinion - people like Sheen (father and son) - and I hear through the grapevine Bruce Willis? that they may wake up and perhaps have a look behind the headlines they are spoonfed.

My feeling is that he probably has no video footage and like it states in the article, he gave them to a high ranking official somewhere. So to save his life he has to pretend he still has them somewhere.

People don't want to know that the people they want to keep them safe are actually hurting them so they go into denial. Almost like living with a drug addict, they become co-dependant and an enabler because to face up to the real situation appears more scary at the outset.

Let's get a 12 step progamme in place to wake people out of their slumber!

(I shall ponder on the 12 steps for a later post perhaps)

Ramblingly yours

amandaooo

tabea_blumenschein
25-06-2009, 06:00 AM
If you're interested in what we skeptics think of this guy's story, click here. (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=146399)

redkop
25-06-2009, 07:57 AM
If you're interested in what we skeptics think of this guy's story, click here. (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=146399)i was,i went,i read,i laughed then cried at how stupid some can be.:rolleyes:

dude111
25-06-2009, 01:23 PM
I cant believe that by now the entire global population isnt aware that 911 was an inside job... Are you kdiding me??

There are so many idiots in the world (Especailly the USA) that im not surprised at all!

yozhik
25-06-2009, 01:38 PM
i was,i went,i read,i laughed then cried at how stupid some can be.:rolleyes:

Letting go of a belief structure can be an extremely difficult and painful process.
To let go means to admit your entire belief structure was wrong; you were mistaken and what you used as "truth" to shape your morals, thoughts, judgements ... all of them, built on a false premise.

That's a huge quantum leap.
The ego will fight it; vehemently and without logic ... the ego will go into survival mode.
Noone likes to admit they're wrong.

It's sad and at times, frustrating.
We just have to have faith that eventually,"the truth shall set them free".

redkop
25-06-2009, 07:33 PM
Letting go of a belief structure can be an extremely difficult and painful process.
To let go means to admit your entire belief structure was wrong; you were mistaken and what you used as "truth" to shape your morals, thoughts, judgements ... all of them, built on a false premise.

That's a huge quantum leap.
The ego will fight it; vehemently and without logic ... the ego will go into survival mode.
Noone likes to admit they're wrong.

It's sad and at times, frustrating.
We just have to have faith that eventually,"the truth shall set them free".
very true and we must all aspire to this.
Gandhi said "the truth is more important than any gods".

metaphor
25-06-2009, 09:21 PM
Letting go of a belief structure can be an extremely difficult and painful process.
To let go means to admit your entire belief structure was wrong; you were mistaken and what you used as "truth" to shape your morals, thoughts, judgements ... all of them, built on a false premise.

That's a huge quantum leap.
The ego will fight it; vehemently and without logic ... the ego will go into survival mode.
Noone likes to admit they're wrong.

It's sad and at times, frustrating.
We just have to have faith that eventually,"the truth shall set them free".

I second that, well said. The same also, has to be applied by us. We have to keep open to all possibilities. Remember-many so called "truthers" are also a prime example of cognitive dissonance, not wanting to change their beliefs.

To the "truth", what ever it may be- cheers

tabea_blumenschein
26-06-2009, 04:49 AM
i was,i went,i read,i laughed then cried at how stupid some can be.:rolleyes:

How about a few examples? Quotes from that thread, I mean.

motleyhoo
26-06-2009, 09:12 AM
Letting go of a belief structure can be an extremely difficult and painful process.
To let go means to admit your entire belief structure was wrong; you were mistaken and what you used as "truth" to shape your morals, thoughts, judgements ... all of them, built on a false premise.

That's a huge quantum leap.
The ego will fight it; vehemently and without logic ... the ego will go into survival mode.
Noone likes to admit they're wrong.

It's sad and at times, frustrating.
We just have to have faith that eventually,"the truth shall set them free".

Great post and so very, very true. Most people, I mean sheeple, cannot accept the truth no matter how many facts you present to them because it would mean the destruction of the very belief system that their entire way of thinking and acting is built upon. I also know people who believe there was something fishy about 9/11 but they just block it out. Playing with their iPods is much easier.

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4879
26-06-2009, 01:38 PM
great post, please move this to the 911 section.

ryanhodgson
28-06-2009, 04:44 AM
most of the posters on THAT forum are working undercover and are just there to spread crap. Some actually sheeple are caught up in the scam.

Some of the topics and posts are incredibly set up and faked it's rediculous. It sounds as is one person is having a conversation with themselves under different names.