Why ON EARTH are we here?

[lostinstrangeworld]

Hi folks...:p I have reposted this here from the "David Icke - Hacking the Matrix (New Interview)" thread as I thought it would make a good beginning for a deep, wholesome discussion. I hope you don't mind mark will i am (cool name).

Personally i feel the X Factor is our natural world. The trouble is people often see nature as separate from themselves. The world is "out there" and I am "here". The truth is there is no separation and our connection with nature allows us to "create our own reality" as some would say. Nature has many tools (quantum event strings, metaphysics, spherical time, multiverses etc) and here in the present time-space continium this is manifest through the natural world which continues to sing its song of love despite the criplling thoughts of man. Nature spirits for example exist behind the veil and are crying out for us to pay them some attention. Regardless, they will respond to our will.

My hope therefore is that at some point in the not to distant future, a critical mass of humanity will awake to their true nature and align their thoughts and actions with love and focus on our true potential, rather than greed, fear, indifference and separation.

That's why we don't have to take the streets and riot, or fight the NWO so to speak. All we must do is align ourselves with love and if enough of us do that a few "changes" may take place enabling the conditions for us to choose a different continuum to the one we are presently on.

That remains my hope. But hope is passive so i must create these conditions in my own life and likewise, the same for everyone else too.

To change our consensus reality we must align with our true nature and focus on our potential or i suspect some may well learn the hard way (and by that i mean living under the tyranny proposed for us presently by some mebers of the human family).

Exactly, I wonder about these things a lot.

So called "enlightened" people (throughout the ages) often speak of "escaping duality" and returning this elusive "isness".

But if there is nothing for us to do then why on Earth are we here?!

Surely there must be a reason for it or there's no way anybody would bother to incarnate or allow suffering to exist.

[gods sun]

i always wanted to know how neo does all the slow mo stuff lol if everythings an illusion then surly this is possible.

[lostinstrangeworld]

I wonder whether it is possible to create a sort of perfect harmony; creation and love co-existing together as one.

If creation/ vibration/ movement is the opposite of stillness/ being/ Nirvana.....then why does it exist?

Surely there must be a way, in an infinite uni~verse to create "heaven on Earth"?

Surely there are places out there.....other places/ planets/ realms....of profound beauty.

[tracker]

I can only give it from my point in space and time .

"if"------------is the middle word in ----------"Life" ( L--if--e life )

"if" raises the possability and / or / possabilities .

when asked "What" is the meaning to life .

the word ---------"what" also implies possabilities .

so if some one says to you
"what is the meaning of life"----------they couldnt be more right as it is a statement and not a question .

in otherwords lets see how the word "what" becomes "possabilities" when putting it to the sentance .

"what is the meaning of life"
possabilities are the meaning of life .

see it ?

now , since also "if" is the middle word in "life" and also raises more possabilities

then the meaning of life is choices , possabilities .

the meaning of our life





is to change it !





to seek out new realities and new possabilities
to boldly go where where we haven't gone before .

and just for the record lostinstrangeworld , I have defo noticed a slow change in you , ( I can tell by your threads etc ) maybe you are already on that journey.
:cool:

[lostinstrangeworld]

"if"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwwYJSIGmcQ

[tusme]

One reason only...TRUTH

[tracker]

One reason only...TRUTH

to get truth one must 1st askthe question .:cool:

[tracker]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwwYJSIGmcQ


thats quite a nice song ,

kind of reminds me of this one .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DD_rJnXvn0






:cool:

[tusme]

to get truth one must 1st askthe question .:cool:
:) Well, imho, it's not so much "asking", as it is "realising/awakening"...to the Truth (Spirit) energy, which resides within us all, ever since our first breath...and, it's relation to all other existent Truth (Spirit) energy... :)

[nosferatu_dj]

when i am asked this question about life. i think of these saying i have allways said

"To live is to die, to die is to live"

"life is a jurney, it is what u do on the way that counts"

"life is a game, play it"

"living is learning, but living in ignorance is not living at all"

"you only ask a question if u already know the answer, but need someone else to confirm the answer"

[lostinstrangeworld]

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x268/AmelieJolie7/whoiswise-desc.jpg

[oilydoyley]

to me we are on Earth as a physical being in the 5 sense term as this is what we call heaven, hell etc.

there are simply different energy spheres, frequencies or planes.

the first being the physical world that we live in which includes all consciousness including all living, breathing animals, plants, the Earth itself etc.

the next being the spirit world and then higher levels of consciousness.

to enhance we must evolve and move forward together resonating with all who we come into to contact with to make a difference.

this can be easily achieved however there are entities at work and an illuminati helping these entities by carrying out their work to entrap and feed off our spiritual energy with their own agenda on the physical plane.

i believe that all our consciousnesses have all decided to experience the world and life in our time together.

regards

[margaretr]

Earth is designed as an experience playground for souls.
Re incarned 5th dimension souls want to experience primitive emotions only available in our 3rd dimension world.
The experience of joy is only recognised as such if you have the experience of pain to compare it with.

[lostinstrangeworld]

While the sun hangs in the sky and the desert has sand
While the waves crash in the sea and meet the land
While there's a wind and the stars and the rainbow
Till the mountains crumble into the plain
Oh yes we'll keep on tryin'
Tread that fine line
Oh we'll keep on tryin' yeah
Just passing our time
While we live according to race, colour or creed
While we rule by blind madness and pure greed
Our lives dictated by tradition, superstition, false religion
Through the eons, and on and on
Oh yes we'll keep on tryin'
We'll tread that fine line
Oh we'll keep on tryin'
Till the end of time
Till the end of time

Through the sorrow all through our splendour
Don't take offence at my innuendo

You can be anything you want to be
Just turn yourself into anything you think that you could ever be
Be free with your tempo, be free be free
Surrender your ego - be free, be free to yourself

Oooh, ooh -
If there's a God or any kind of justice under the sky
If there's a point, if there's a reason to live or die
If there's an answer to the questions we feel bound to ask
Show yourself - destroy our fears - release your mask
Oh yes we'll keep on trying
Hey tread that fine line
Yeah we'll keep on smiling yeah
And whatever will be - will be
We'll just keep on trying
We'll just keep on trying
Till the end of time
Till the end of time
Till the end of time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Qd_6Nvl5gE&feature=related

[typenicknamehere]

Why ON EARTH are we here?

I think somewhere down the line of human existance we started to place a sense of grandure and over simplification of this question ,I think it is given too much credit and infact in many ways that very question has had a negative affect on our understanding of who we are.

You see if you ask "why are we here" your then focusing on your existance on this earth, this would be the general understanding that most people have of the question and they will ask this quesiton with that understanding in mind, But by asking it in that way we are then forgetting that "here" is temporary ,john, jane, frank ,sally are all temporary and fixed into the word "here" ,there is no point in giving that question so much due time because while we are trying to answer "why we are here" time is running out and the experience of being here will be over.

I suspect that if there are negative forces in this world who want to keep us in a state of human physical mind then they will count on us asking this question because doing so over and over again helps us to disconnect from consciousness as I think the question was intended initially to be asked why are we here on this earth physically? ,"why are john ,jane ,sally here on this earth"? ,it seems that this question may have even been a trickery to keep us in a state of mind rather than knowing we are "one" and our singular consiousness is having an experience through different physical vehicles.

I think the OP made reference in another thread that many of us feel lonely and seperate, "the question of why we are here" helps to fuel this depressing and lonely feeling as it makes no reference to us being one consiousness however it does suggest that we are here and we are individual beings going through individual struggles in our individual little minds and it also suggest that there is nothing beyond being "here" because the question is so fixated on WHY, WHY, WHY we are here, this feeling of loneliness is not actually a feeling of loneliness of others or deprivation of the company of others I think its loneliness from feeling detached of our consiousness since you and I are the same consiousness ,of course this is all philosophical but we can look to science to help out this theory just to be on the safe side.

Scientist suggest and its no new theory that all matter in the universe was once tiny and compact, like a seed if you will, below is a little qoute which I will add to since it will seemingly have nothing to do with what iv just been talking about.

That's the general misconception, but a lot goes on in what we think of as empty space. The Big Bang doesn't expand into space. It is space. Space itself expands, and as it does, it increases the distance between matter that was once densely packed. One can picture the expanding universe by thinking of galaxies as dots drawn on a balloon. As you blow it up, the galaxies fly apart in all directions, but it's really the increasing space itself that widens the distance between galaxies. I can't emphasize enough that space is what's expanding, not the galaxies moving out into space.


http://aether.lbl.gov/www/personnel/OMNIinterviewSmMarch93.html

All things made of atoms and matter including us humans have seemingly empty space between us which at one point was tiny and compact again like a little seed ,when this expansion of the universe occured all the matter and atoms expanded they were not created individualy they expanded so the space between them got bigger like an accordion when closed the space between is small then it expands but is always connected, the space which is between all of us is called dark matter and the amazing thing is that we are connected by this dark matter we all have this invisible strand connecting us which was simply expanded at the time of space expanding, the subject of quantum physics is strangly becoming philosophical as scientists are discovering that things in the quantum mechanics and physics world cannot be explained such as the "double slit" experiment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfPeprQ7oGc

If you believe many in the field who share the same view as above then it says a lot about our consciousness and belittles the primative question of "why are we here" ,I would recommened researching this because if you have an interest in each other and consiousness then quantum physics of all subjects can connect itself and consiousness together ,science and philosophy are on a scrash course and when they meet we are going to unlock many secrets.

[octopusrex]

Donno bout you fools, but I'm here to love and be loved.:D

[echoes_of_a_dream]

Earth is designed as an experience playground for souls.
Re incarned 5th dimension souls want to experience primitive emotions only available in our 3rd dimension world.
The experience of joy is only recognised as such if you have the experience of pain to compare it with.

I agree, we are here to experience our creation (as you mention relating to 3D). Everything is in balance/harmony in this manner as consciousness moves between dimensions in the infinite now. Very much analogous to the Tree of Life in Kabbalah or the way "the architect" in the Matrix describes it as a perfect mathematical equation.

Experience is motion, without motion the great cosmic wheel does not turn. There is no in-breath without the out-breath, only a pause between them.

[lostinstrangeworld]

I think the OP made reference in another thread that many of us feel lonely and seperate, "the question of why we are here" helps to fuel this depressing and lonely feeling as it makes no reference to us being one consiousness

Yes, I do see truth in what you say....however, it may also be argued that to not question the nature of our existence and our reality would subject us to the limited consciousness of the 5 sense reality where we identify with emotions, events, taking them seriously- like a dog chasing its own tail round and round and round but never moving beyond that level.

So I say to that....yes and no. :D

science and philosophy are on a scrash course and when they meet we are going to unlock many secrets.

Yes; well said, I agree- I have been thinking about this too.

[lostinstrangeworld]

Donno bout you fools, but I'm here to love and be loved.:D

Well said. I could put in a smilie here at this point but as a matter of fact that single sentence there is very profound.

[lostinstrangeworld]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugzE3f8amas

Every drop of rain that falls in sahara desert says it all
Its a miracle
All gods creations great and small
The golden gate and the taj mahal
Thats a miracle
Test tube babies being born
Mothers,fathers dead and gone
Its a miracle

Were having a miracle on earth
Mother nature does it all for us
The wonders of this world go on
The hanging gardens of babylon
Captain cook and cain and able
Jimi hendrix to the tower of babel
Its a miracle its a miracle its a miracle
Its a miracle

The one thing were all waiting for is peace on earth - an end
To war
Its a miracle we need - the miracle
The miracle were all waiting for today

If every leaf on every tree could tell a story that would be a
Miracle
If every child on every street had clothes to wear and food to
Eat
Thats a miracle
If all gods people could be free to live in perfect harmony
Its a miracle

Were having a miracle on earth
Mother nature does it all for us
Open hearts and surgery
(wonders of this world go on)
Sunday mornings with a cup of tea
Super powers always fighting
But mona lisa just keeps on smiling
Its a miracle its a miracle its a miracle

(wonders of this world go on)
Its a miracle its a miracle its a miracle
Its a miracle

The one thing (the one thing) were all waiting for (were all
Waiting for)
Is peace on earth (peace on earth) and an end to war (an end
To war)
Its a miracle we need - the miracle
The miracle peace on earth and end to war today

That time will come one day youll see when we can all be
Friends
That time will come one day youll see when we can all be
Friends
That time will come one day youll see when we can all be
Friends
That time will come one day youll see when we can all be
Friends

[anahata]

To vary existance. Earth has tough challenges and potential for manifesting great things.

[woodelf]

ok, i'm figuring we're manifested from the sun, evolving over hundreds of lifetimes to achieve and exist in high states of realization, ultimately becoming co-workers with God in an upcoming huge endeavor planned for us. this jives smoothly with the guft summarized in the quote that we are little swirling information processing systems and another quote -God created Soul to know itself better. (coupla recent favs, science and spirit, respectively, ha!)
milling around kicking up dirt can be stifling, but, doesnt everyone feel an undercurrent of giddiness and excitement ready to bubble up from within? i hear theres a world party coming up!

[anahata]

milling around kicking up dirt can be stifling, but, doesnt everyone feel an undercurrent of giddiness and excitement ready to bubble up from within? i hear theres a world party coming up!

The more conscious you are in preparing the party, the better it will be and it rarely comes around so get creative!!

[lostinstrangeworld]

:)

:cool:

[mauviene]

Maybe we are karmically trapped.

Or maybe our existences are stark coincidences.

[soul_traveller]

ok, i'm figuring we're manifested from the sun, evolving over hundreds of lifetimes to achieve and exist in high states of realization, ultimately becoming co-workers with God in an upcoming huge endeavor planned for us. this jives smoothly with the guft summarized in the quote that we are little swirling information processing systems and another quote -God created Soul to know itself better. (coupla recent favs, science and spirit, respectively, ha!)
milling around kicking up dirt can be stifling, but, doesnt everyone feel an undercurrent of giddiness and excitement ready to bubble up from within? i hear theres a world party coming up!

The more conscious you are in preparing the party, the better it will be and it rarely comes around so get creative!!

Awesome! Great posts.

Lets celebrate the aera of Oneness (or whatever label you choose) that is coming soon.

[dusthead]

No-one knows why we are here.

It's an impossible question.

So instead of hanging around wondering why we are here, why not simply go out and make sure your stay is a pleasant one by enjoying life as much as possible in the short time you have?

Works for me.

[tusme]

No-one knows why we are here.

It's an impossible question.

So instead of hanging around wondering why we are here, why not simply go out and make sure your stay is a pleasant one by enjoying life as much as possible in the short time you have?

Works for me.
Hi Dusthead,

It's not the first time I've heard you offer "No-one knows" as an answer...!? :confused:

I'm wondering, is it co's you don't know, don't care to know...and thus, don't want others to know...!? :confused: :)

I'm intrigued, what qualifies you to say "no-one knows"...!? :confused:

Also, what's "impossible" about the question...!? :confused:

[anahata]

Maybe we are karmically trapped.

Or maybe our existences are stark coincidences.

I don't think we are trapped BY the karma, I think we're trapped by our will to hold on to what we know. I guess karma works as a universal law which facilitates our existance allowing us to shape our own lives based on our conscious effort.

[tracker]

you want to know why we are here .

this is why we are here .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycLODXUY718




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLMJAJp_w0U&feature=related






:cool:

[mauviene]

I don't think we are trapped BY the karma, I think we're trapped by our will to hold on to what we know. I guess karma works as a universal law which facilitates our existance allowing us to shape our own lives based on our conscious effort.

Why would your will want to trap you here? And I don't see how holding on to what you know could facilitate a rebirth. I think you might of meant our desire to be reborn caused such a birth but seemingly our planes of rebirth must have been limited..

I just surmised that the reason we are all in a plane of suffering is because our karma forced us to incarnate here(hence a karmic trap).

With the expansiveness of creation I don't think many beings would willfully be born into our earth..

I know alot of new age theorists are trying to fade away from the traditional views and saying beings are incarnating here to save humanity ect ect..making this whole new mythological movement with indigo and crystal children . I personally think its all feel good hogwash and most people would hate to think of the fact that we did not choose to incarnate here entirely based off of free will.

[octopusrex]

Well said. I could put in a smilie here at this point but as a matter of fact that single sentence there is very profound.

It's the weed.