Resident Satanist

[ashyr]

Am i the only real satanist here?


GREAT!!!!

anyone need a little satan in there life.
you can ask me just about anything.

[forbesy]

What does it mean to be a satanist?

[ashyr]

well, that is actually a really good question.
i would tell you the answer but you already know it.

i can elaborate further on any aspect inside of satanism, but only if your truely interested.

[limelady]

Hi ashyr,

My intuition must be still working O.K. because I have to admit I suspected this about you. ;)

Without judgement, I too am VERY interested in hearing what it means to you to be a satanist.

Love
LL :)

[orgo knight]

I have a question. What inspires one to choose satanism ? cheers Tony :)

[eternal_spirit]

Am i the only real satanist here?


GREAT!!!!

anyone need a little satan in there life.
you can ask me just about anything.
....................


:D LOL The title of this thread made me chuckle. I know me and ashyr don't agree on a lot of stuff, but I have respect for him and he is humorous at times.

So, ashyr no coded speak tell it straight so we can understand what you're about and where you coming from for once.

[binhdinh_khiwarrior]

i think ( and ashyr please pull me up if i am wrong) that he has given the answer you guys seek, yet you do not see it. he has revealed little about himself/beleifs, you guys reveal alot/everything about ur selves/beliefs. would it be fair to say that in his criptic clues/sayings conceal his true knowledge in a form that only he (or maybe other followers) can decipher...

he has taken that which he wants (info) and given nothingback (no answer to ur questions) so isn't this the answer you guys were seeking?

[eternal_spirit]

i think ( and ashyr please pull me up if i am wrong) that he has given the answer you guys seek, yet you do not see it. he has revealed little about himself/beleifs, you guys reveal alot/everything about ur selves/beliefs. would it be fair to say that in his criptic clues/sayings conceal his true knowledge in a form that only he (or maybe other followers) can decipher...

he has taken that which he wants (info) and given nothingback
(no answer to ur questions) so isn't this the answer you guys were seeking?
...........................

LOL, he's either avoiding the issue or he's confused.
There are as many versions of true satanism ( because they all contradict one another and call each other fakes) as there are different versions and interpretations of the Bible and other religious and spiritual stuff. Who's playng devil's advocate here.

[eternal_spirit]

Maybe recent memberships numbers are down and he's seeking new recruits. How many people do you know go to Church on a Sunday these days. I think it proves alot of people are waking up and are starting to use their own minds for a change.

[binhdinh_khiwarrior]

I just find it hillarious when ppl get into satan to rebel against the God which does not exist...yet satan exists...satan only exists to oppose God, if satan exists then God must exist and both must be as powerful as eachhcother...which is not really the case...there is only God, i fear no evil

[ashyr]

What inspires one to choose satanism

well i spose its just been the neche through which i operate.

would you like to pose some of my contributing factors?

( Heavy Metal, Music, Deviant, Extremely Fun, always seeking knowledge, somehow drugs are apart of it for me. shamanistically you may understand. Embracing your every being, Being able to make the most of what i have got. which aint much man. )

So, ashyr no coded speak tell it straight so we can understand what you're about and where you coming from for once.

the thing you must understand about me. i do not pre rehearse anything. i say things as i see it at every moment. sometimes i may sound like a broken record. but im saying the same thing in a different way.
im very descriptive but sometimes go off on tangents but there is a point usually hehe. bare with me.

i think ( and ashyr please pull me up if i am wrong) that he has given the answer you guys seek, yet you do not see it. he has revealed little about himself/beleifs, you guys reveal alot/everything about ur selves/beliefs. would it be fair to say that in his criptic clues/sayings conceal his true knowledge in a form that only he (or maybe other followers) can decipher...

yes mostly you are correct here. except i may add, anyone with genuine interest that will get my time is the one who will truely understand me, and i must also understand them.

he has taken that which he wants (info) and given nothingback (no answer to ur questions) so isn't this the answer you guys were seeking? ill disregard that lol hey thats like almost what your trying to say here isnt it. that ILL take what i want. reject this bit here. now who is making the choices here? i make a journey, you make a journey, we make a journey together. as the saying goes!

ETERNAL SPIRIT

please let it be known that i do not consider anything religious, as in past history or followings or even as far as culture is considerd. SATANISM.
this i have said many times. "is the reflected opposame of christianity"
is there to get you if xtianity doesnt. click!
the satansim is a way of life i follow my own code. I am very progressive, and update very often. but i still maintain all my old versions. there just obsolete.
i should check my refresh rate sometimes. its 85hz atm i think. 72hz is better for me. 9


why do most people fear what they do not understand.

[cmdr_sabbathius]

Which 'sect' (I can't think of a better term) of Satanism are you with or allied with if you are with one?

[tinmenace]

This post (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=84736&postcount=254) by Edit is brilliant. It concerns the lower dimensions and their function in this world. A must read.

[ashyr]

I dont follow any sect or group.

i have a "scene" if you would, that i am a part of. which inturn is part of a bigger "scene" which is part of a even larger "scene"

its like a culture i suppose.

[kooo]

Ashyr, do you sacrifice animals?

[ashyr]

only the ones i eat.

[clipwip]

only the ones i eat.

See... That is unbelievably callous.

The great adepts of spirituality in the Old Testament would never be so sick and demented as to EAT their sacrifices! Sacrifices were for the Almighty and no one else!!! If anyone desecrated the sacrafice, he/she would be turned into a pillar of butthole. There shouldn't be any remnants after the "pleasing sent for the LORD" was consummated. The sacrifice would be nothing but ash. Ashyr, there is still time to repent and deliver yourself as an unblemished sacrament to the LORD YOUR GOD! Repent and be the divine incense that you were destined to be!

[rasnalgoul]

You know what gets me, this is a david icke forum and yet there are still people that come here and tell others to repent to the 'Lord'. How did you get here? You must have not read any of Davids books. By the way, I thought the -only the ones i eat- bit was pretty good, haha. But heres my question for you, Ive been told before that there are many different kinds of satanism, mostly its divided into 2 groups, what the media portrays it all as, crazies killing animals and drinking blood, acting like vampires, and others who are more paganistic and who are follow laws that are reverse of what christianity says, something along the line of might is right or whatever, please correct me if Im horribly wrong. What kind of satanist do you consider yourself to be, Im not looking for an ism or label just the kind of basic ideas you believe in. Also, assuming that you have read some of Ickes work, how do you feel about his material and does that cause any problems with the way you choose to live?

[ashyr]

thanks for a great reply.

well i find that the 2 forms of satanism you mentioned here . are actually the same satanism. both are in effect, direct reflections of a christianity based religion, this can be seen, because its as organised as christianity, relys on it, and refferes to it.

the base belief system i follow, is one that encludes everything. and shun's all forms of oganised religion, also it employs techniques and rituals such as the way of life of man. being true to your person, not letting others control you, being progressive in your quest, yet remaining informed and ontop of your situation, thus, not giving in with positive attitudes, you will just be misled, again responding in positive light to a negative event, can be just one way of dealing with it. i do not sacfrice animals, i do not drink blood of goats etc, nor do i read from a book entitled "SATAN" i read literature but donot follow any of it , as this element of control inside this is just like christianity. but sometimes. just sometimes. you will get a spark of what reality can really be like if you just drop your emotions, drop your barriers, and look at things from a real perspective. know why people are reacting in a good or bad way. u can then begin to see thru the bullshit. its a great task, yet also one with great rewards.

[eternal_spirit]

LOL sounds much like myself. Hell we even share some of the same tastes in music.
I think there are more than two types of Satanism though.

[lenejento]

thanks for a great reply.

well i find that the 2 forms of satanism you mentioned here . are actually the same satanism. both are in effect, direct reflections of a christianity based religion, this can be seen, because its as organised as christianity, relys on it, and refferes to it.

the base belief system i follow, is one that encludes everything. and shun's all forms of oganised religion, also it employs techniques and rituals such as the way of life of man. being true to your person, not letting others control you, being progressive in your quest, yet remaining informed and ontop of your situation, thus, not giving in with positive attitudes, you will just be misled, again responding in positive light to a negative event, can be just one way of dealing with it. i do not sacfrice animals, i do not drink blood of goats etc, nor do i read from a book entitled "SATAN" i read literature but donot follow any of it , as this element of control inside this is just like christianity. but sometimes. just sometimes. you will get a spark of what reality can really be like if you just drop your emotions, drop your barriers, and look at things from a real perspective. know why people are reacting in a good or bad way. u can then begin to see thru the bullshit. its a great task, yet also one with great rewards.


Why do you call yourself a satanist?

[ashyr]

following our conversation last night. ill recap for the other posters.


basically. "eternal spirit' this may shed some light.

there are many many forms of satanism. these most relate directly to christianity in some way or another. this is where the joke is. as much as i hate to admit it. these are just folly's of xtianity . off spins and basically bad people. doing negative stuff in vain of god or direct opposites of christ.

this is where i differ.
im progressive. i do what i want. with what ive got. i do not sacrifice animals. dont regularly ritual with the format most would be acustomed. i am generally a nice guy. infact in super. though i think while residing in the 3rd dimension there is no way you cannot do anything here withough embracing that. and this is satans' realm (that of the physical) cant beat em join em. theres still no way to say though weather i am just manipulating my existence in the 3rd along side the "3d king" that im just waiting for something better to come along. and he knows it. =D

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

Ladies & Gentlemen, Good Evening(est):

Perchance!
Are any of you familiar with the 'School of Thought" that the Super-Being Satan, the Entity spoken of in the Book of Yahweh(bible) is a wife of Yahweh,since before Humankinds creation.
Subsequent to the rebellion she created and led, she was demoted to the Status of 'Estranged'.She is the first god, exalting herself above her Creator.
Satan is the oft spoken of "Queen of Heaven"
There will not be a divorce, rather at a time chosen by Yahweh she shall be destroyed.
A substantial amount of verse throughout Book of Yahweh support these conclusions.

[ashyr]

does this have anything to do with, EVE and how she was destroyed?

[kblood]

As far as I know, most satanists, are satanists because they believe in freedom. Not restricting themselves with any religion. Being a satanist doesnt equal being a person that likes doing evil or wierd rituals. Most of them simply doesnt believe we should be so worried about karma and rules. Its been a while since I read up on it though, so I dont remember it exactly. The basics in a satanists belief isnt eating babies instead snacks anyway.

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

Peace & Greetings ashyr!:

I do not make assumptions, yet through Brain/Mind gymnastics I reckon your query was directed to moi, snoopsnuffleopagus.

My answer to your query is 'No'

in the 'What is Satanism, 'exactly', I am attempting to illuminate otherwise obscured information about satan, as defined by the Book of Yahweh(the bible).

The 'Nexus of Time Event' in Yahwehs Garden, Eden, and Satans interaction with Mother Eve,will be broached in the notso distant future.

Until then,kind regards,Snoopsnuffleopagus

[ashyr]

snoopsnuffleopagus, yes that reference about the EVE. was for you.

doesnt the old testament your reading say about how Adam crafted his own eve after eve left because she didnt like adams shit. he dominated her. but she came back when adam had made his OWN eve and the "REAL" eve came as the serpent and temped adams fake "EVE" show her the world of which was without adam and his ruling controlling behaviour.

thus which is still respected and followed in catholic tradition. the female being nothing more than a peice of meat and a fresh spawn factory

[kblood]

I read about Lilith being the first woman. One of the Bibles contradicitions within itself. Either that or it is Wiccan beliefs.

I guess I have to admit that my views at least have been satanistic. I have tried disproving the bible, and dont really have any respect for rules and laws that are set for us. As I see it fear is what traps us within the normal boundaries of life, and I have been looking for something that I might truly fear. So far fear only seems to be within me, and about myself rather than the effect others might have on me. I have tried stopping friends from doing crime by telling them how stupid it is and forcing them. I have become better at that, but the first times I mostly just made it all worse. Only the sympathy of the police involved and my own creativity has kept me from being charged with crimes I feel like I should have died for a few times already. Then again, I might have died a few times already. Death seems to be a boundary of life im not meant to cross yet. Some day I do believe I will get to be mortal, or maybe at least not fear leaving everyone behind. Only thing that has kept me here is because of those that love me, and the people that might need me. After Im 30 a fortune teller once told me I would "grow up" and become more adult. I guess I might get my mortality. I have cursed my life for being so different, and I guess that is why I have tried going against the stream so much.

[ashyr]

thats correct lilith,

thats why women have there hate groups =D

haha. i hear your mate.

hey study trout man. they ride energy up the stream, check it out.
you know energy returns to the source right,
i can paint a better picture if you want.

[eternal_spirit]

ashyr I like the idea of the 3d reality being your realm, this is the reality we live in and can manipulate for good and bad, why do you believe in the 3d king as you put it, how does he( if you mean satan?3dking) fit into this.

Most of us need to feel like, or do have control of the 3d reality that's what life is mosty about,survival, pleasure all the emotions and things we do here. what about other dimension and spirits?

[eternal_spirit]

doesnt the old testament your reading say about how Adam crafted his own eve after eve left because she didnt like adams shit. he dominated her. but she came back when adam had made his OWN eve and the "REAL" eve came as the serpent and temped adams fake "EVE" show her the world of which was without adam and his ruling controlling behaviour.

thus which is still respected and followed in catholic tradition. the female being nothing more than a peice of meat and a fresh spawn factory[/quote]


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ashyr Isn't there a story in the Bible how Eve was created from one of Adam's ribs? Are we talking genetic cloning.

So symbolicly two aspects of the feminine, One is the good wife of God, the other rebels and goes off to do her own thing. Only because she's up set about God's controlling ways, he's been treating her mean. Is this what your saying God must be good and bad?? snoopeloffaegus?

ashyr your take is it's Adam and Eve similar story but different characters.

We have two aspects of feminine energy, moon good bad etc in witchcraft.
Satan is considerd the boss to some satanists, how is he used to give you want you want in this life? Sign your soul over to the devil for eternity lol for every plealsure and need you have in this one life here on Earth wtf?Rebelling against God he is believed to represent the path to freedom to some, kind of like and example.

[kblood]

Hmmm... I guess I should try give my view on satan.

I actually believe I once summoned him... twice even I guess. First time might have been a vision though, and I guess I was just playing with him.

Im still not sure wether he was lucifer or not. He could have been a manifistation of anything. He first appeared as the large demon. All gray, which I think was due to the fact that he made himself from ashes, dust and whatever else he could gather him a "3D" body from. He surely cant die either. I tried finding out wether Anne Rice was right about him or not, and this also makes it less likely that it was true. It might simply have been the reflection shown me that I wanted or needed to see. Her book "Memnoch, The Devil" really takes you all around a possible belief system. Heaven, hell and all that. Given that Anne Rice might have had Liliths legacy in her, maybe she did know a few things most of us dont, about it all. The few times I have spoken with her, she seemed to have next to no confidence in herself. She tributed everything to her whore idol :rolleyes:

[kblood]

Hmmm, my view of Lucifer, or whatever he is to be called:

An intelligent fallen archangel, who probably have given us most our "freedom". Therefore also many of our sins might get tributed to him. His goals the same as his creator. To purify our souls. His angle on it all is just a bit more down to Earth :p

This is one of my theories that makes me not believe in true evil. Or pure evil at least. Would simply destroy itself on this plane. Guess its physical form is "anti-matter". I have only read about it though.

[ashyr]

yes. but also eve existed before he made eve of his rib. thats one of the contradictions.

this was symbolic of mans dominance over woman. by him making an eve he could say was his own out strech his control over her. but if i remember correctly. the 1st EVE was the devil whom came back to show eve how terrible it is under ADAMS thumb. almost to prove to adam the error of his ways by making even his own creation turn against him.

thers alot of moral in that. its nothing more to me though than a fixation on a subject of some peoples live many many years before mine. its of no importance really. fuck im more important than that triffe.

but if its clues to the universe you seek. look, know, further.
the weapons of mass distruction are inside of you and me!

[eternal_spirit]

How can the Devil be woman, then again how can we be sure God's a man. Where does the saying the Mother of God originate? Androgynous God.


We are legion lol Satan and how many fallen angels.

[eternal_spirit]

but if its clues to the universe you seek. look, know, further.
the weapons of mass distruction are inside of you and me!


Yes that's true we can do good and bad, but a choice to do either to get what we wan't. How does satan fit into this?

Good ( God ) ( devil ( Evil ) Are these really just two words that describe good and bad ?

[edit]

Mar 3:23 And he called them [unto him], and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan? (http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Sattva_Satwa/id/202617)


Mar 3:24 And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.


Mar 3:25 And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.


Mar (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/c.pl?book=Mar&chapter=3&verse=26&version=KJV#26) 3:26 And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end.

http://namlo.conggiao.net/images/muavong.jpg
The Play of the Divine (http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:eeNhrNvHEnEJ:www.eaisai.com/baba/docs/d870407.html+satwa+means&hl=nl&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=nl)

Oh Mind! Ever remember
The nectar-like name of Rama
Which is sweeter than Sugar,
Pleasanter to the tongue than honey


sataua (http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:WbCHt_AsCzkJ:members.tripod.com/~wim_canada/glossaryf.html+Qur%27an+Fatwa+in+sura+means&hl=nl&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=nl) in greek is satwa ( good guna (http://www.sethayurvedics.com/ayurveda/trigunas.html)) in sanskrit
http://www.cs.fiu.edu/~flynnj/cats/ksw-june99-kitten.jpg
http://www.panasonic.fr/servlet/PB/menu/1109781_l3/index.html
Giê-su, và xin ... Sinh (http://namlo.conggiao.net/suynienloichua/CN23TN/)


Mar 9:50 Salt [is] good: (http://library.witpress.com/pages/PaperInfo.asp?PaperID=17210) but if the salt have lost his saltness, wherewith will ye season it? Have salt in yourselves, and have peace one with another.

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

Peace & Greetings ashyr,eternal spirit & edit*!:

Answers for ashyr & eternal spirit: In a word no.Time restraints compel me to limit my postings, so most of the information on this topic I shall post in the 'what is satanism?'exactly', and that should dispel any confusion as to what the Book of Yahweh provides on this most important subject.

Peruse a few of my posts in that thread and you will notice a 'Baseline' has been provided> The Torah< This is placed against any doctrine or scripture proffered.

Much like 'Survey Stones' provide architects with elevation of 'Mean Sea Level' so they may determine 'Elevations".

My approach to the Book of Yahweh is mathematical & mechanical, rather than 'Esoteric', there are No 'Mysteries of Yahweh', the mysteries are satans domain. Other than proper Baptisms, which 99.9% of humans have never recieved, there are no initiations. Really simple stuff.

Dig This! The Book of Yahweh focuses on the 'Duality' of humankinds nature. For the purpose of this Book, the aforementioned 'Duality' is centered in the Brain/Mind complex, in the upper part of your 'Head'.

The 'Carnal' mind is home to 'Base' qualities such as:Envy,greed,hatred,covetness,unlawful desires,etc.

The 'Higher' mind is the domain of:Love,compassion,empathy,charity,
Is not the Fruit of Love Service?

Satan is the Championette of the 'Carnal' mind

Yahweh & Yahshua are champions of the 'Higher' mind

The purpose of the Book of Yahweh is profitable for instruction of Moral Character, honoring the Higher Mind,suppressing the carnal mind.

Please recall some of my earlier posts about Brain/Mind Capacity Utilisation. Unless any of you are truely extraordinary, science informs us we are using considerably less than 50% of our B?M Capacity. This may lead to errant conclusions and behaviour.

In the other thread I have already informed of Satans rebellion, the object of her rebellion is the Torah, she desired Liberty! Freedom! to do things her way. So at this time, Yahweh has permitted this to her, and than to humans.

To be able to provide a vivid record of mans freedom and the consequences that it reaps, when favouring and exaltiing the carnal mind.

Baseline: Doctrine of Book of Yahweh.

To serve and obey Yahweh, one must honor and obey the Torah.
To not serve and obey Yahweh and the Torah, makes one a servant of satan.

The good news for most is that they are unaware of this so you are not accountable,yet. That remains for a future day after you have had about 100 years of training from proper teachers and materiel.

Consider This!: The Teachings of Yahweh and the Prophets can be likened to the Finest Wine.
All the False Teachers of Yahweh and His doctrines, take that bottle of wine, pour out 90% into the drain and refill the bottle with tap-water!.

The noive of dem!

His doctrines have been sugarcoated and dumbed down to be palatable to the masses carnal mind, so they false teachers can receive power,adulation and moola.
and everything else the carnal desire.

This would probably be a good time to inform you all that I am not a certified teacher of Yahweh myself. Consider me as to a Janitor. I correct
safety & health issues.

As I stroll through the various Boards & Forums of the cyberverse, I notice the rampant Misrepresentation of this most important work.As a Janitor, my duty is to 'Clean Up' a bit and try to put some order to what would otherwise be seen as a 'Mess'.

"Color me Cukoo'!! but from where I sit, it seems the one proclaiming freedom,liberty the loudest, they themselves are bound by unvetted and unproven chains of "Dogma'.

Critics should always keep focused and retained in the Brain/Mind Complex, that when they point their boney finger of accusation, they have three fingers pointing back at....themselves.

[kblood]

I dont believe in evil. To me it is a human concept that only exists to us. I dont see the logic in it. We do apparantly, but we are easily misled. I dont see anything in nature that is evil. I think evil was a concept created to justify killing, or name our fears.

If there is a devil, he is part of the natural system of life, I think. If you read all the meanings of the names of "the devil" they rarely describe an evil being. So many today just seem to claim that any mystical being with horns are some devil. I cant deny it either though :o

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

Peace & Greetings kblood!:

First: There is a wonderful movie out there,called 'The Usual Suspects'
I would reccomend to anyone to view it, and often it is viewed several times as it is thought provoking, one of the stars at the end of the movie makes a remark: "The devils greatest trick is to make you think it doesn't exist"
It's just a myth or Fable. Of course humankind is divided over this particular thought..

Does 'Evil' exist, I would say there is enough historical,supporting evidence at this juncture,2007 CE to make the case it most certainy does. A few examples

Example #1: Creation & Use of nuclear weapons, The use of these weapons have the most profound negative effects, widespread and detereous to the Safety & Health of ALL living things on this Planet.
Besides the American use of these waepons on two population centres, the U.S.A. and many othe nations have detonated them above and below the Earths surface. Research that. In addition, for the last 16 years the U.S.A. & U.K & NATO have been waging 'low level' nuclear war on Nations ranging from the Balkans to the Mid-East and southwest asia.

You must not be aware of the poisoning of the environment, leading to terrible illnesses of the human population of these areas, the worst being the poisoning and harm done to pregnant mothers and the as yet unborn babies in their wombs,causing horrible harm to absolutely innocent humans. This is EVIL.PURE,UNADULTERATED EVIL!

Gottago! If you desire more examples,I, and perhaps others could provide more information.

W/Kindest Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

[kblood]

Peace & Greetings kblood!:

First: There is a wonderful movie out there,called 'The Usual Suspects'
I would reccomend to anyone to view it, and often it is viewed several times as it is thought provoking, one of the stars at the end of the movie makes a remark: "The devils greatest trick is to make you think it doesn't exist"
It's just a myth or Fable. Of course humankind is divided over this particular thought..

Does 'Evil' exist, I would say there is enough historical,supporting evidence at this juncture,2007 CE to make the case it most certainy does. A few examples

Example #1: Creation & Use of nuclear weapons, The use of these weapons have the most profound negative effects, widespread and detereous to the Safety & Health of ALL living things on this Planet.
Besides the American use of these waepons on two population centres, the U.S.A. and many othe nations have detonated them above and below the Earths surface. Research that. In addition, for the last 16 years the U.S.A. & U.K & NATO have been waging 'low level' nuclear war on Nations ranging from the Balkans to the Mid-East and southwest asia.

You must not be aware of the poisoning of the environment, leading to terrible illnesses of the human population of these areas, the worst being the poisoning and harm done to pregnant mothers and the as yet unborn babies in their wombs,causing horrible harm to absolutely innocent humans. This is EVIL.PURE,UNADULTERATED EVIL!

Gottago! If you desire more examples,I, and perhaps others could provide more information.

W/Kindest Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

Well... you death can be quite beatifull, and if a human is innocent, then death is only sad to those who knew the person. Well, except if there is alot of unfinished business for the person in this world. You cant say evil exists just because you have read about it in history books. How was evil the motive? Evil is just a word that we christians use to sum up all the "bad" things we dont like, and label as taboos. The word evil is one of the words that helps cloud our minds from the truth, because it sounds so believable.

Before I tried summoning the Devil, I also had to reference to "The Usual Suspects" :) That movie is great. Well played bu the actors and brilliant plot.

I guess you see the Kayzer Soze guy as evil then? Not just an oppertunist who is brilliant and greedy? Intelligence usually makes us want more in this world. Love mostly makes us stupid, in the logical way at least. Love usually acts on intuition I think.

[kblood]

Example #1: Creation & Use of nuclear weapons, The use of these weapons have the most profound negative effects, widespread and detereous to the Safety & Health of ALL living things on this Planet.
Besides the American use of these waepons on two population centres, the U.S.A. and many othe nations have detonated them above and below the Earths surface. Research that. In addition, for the last 16 years the U.S.A. & U.K & NATO have been waging 'low level' nuclear war on Nations ranging from the Balkans to the Mid-East and southwest asia.

Nuclear energy have supplied millions of people with energy though. I dont see curiosity as evil. Being mad for power is sad though. Fear have made so many nations need these weapons.



You must not be aware of the poisoning of the environment, leading to terrible illnesses of the human population of these areas, the worst being the poisoning and harm done to pregnant mothers and the as yet unborn babies in their wombs,causing horrible harm to absolutely innocent humans. This is EVIL.PURE,UNADULTERATED EVIL!

Yea, some people believe we have to be controlled. Their fear of us becomming so many that they would have to relive the great starvation that once plagued China and still are a great problem in many countries. None of this is done because some people simply want other people to suffer. When some do, it is usually a reaction to something else that made their life worse, and thereby keeping the cycle going.

If you believe in evil, then please describe to me what it is? Other than just a word to make us fear beings that usually dont exist, and if they do, they fear the world more than most. The Illuminati is a good example. Cowardly weaklings hiding and plotting. I really have a hard time believing people like that can continue going on, seeing what kind of life it makes for them.

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

Peace & Bunny Hugs & Puppy Dog Kisses Upon You kblood!:

If I may present another Qualitative Benchmark of the Book of Yahweh, consider this: Evil is defined as any personal behaviour that is harmful to yourself or others.It is that simple.

Father Yahweh, the Greatest Artist of All Time, often paints with a wide brush,laden with the richest and deepest pigments, applying them in masterfully bold strokes, yet not neglecting the finest details. The 613 Laws, Judgements and Statutes of the Torah and the prophecies He gave His prophets.

Indeed,anyway you want to swing(metaphor)with Wotan,Yaba Yaba, Zeus, Mithras........The Book of Yahweh, as the source of all knowledge, will provide much pertinent information so that one may make an informed decision. The choice is yours.

The greatest caveat(warning)in the Book of Yahweh is issued by Yahshua Messiah(jesus). He advocates SUICIDE to any human contemplating harm to a child or any weak and defensless person. ie:Pensioners, the Crippled & Lame,etc. He declares you should take your own life before you hurt one of them. There will be no excuses accepted for this behaviour.

The Carnal Mind of man easily justifies whatever he desires. Lets bomb them, lets rape her, lets steal that... all justifiable by the carnal mind.

"We fight them there, so we don't have to fight them here" is an example that comes to mind.(example of justification of carnal mind)

When Humankind can truely discern between the Carnal and Higher Mind,and FREELY choose to honour the Higher Mind, then, and only then, can Humankind say they have 'Evolved' and have become 'Civilised'.

As always, at this time, the choice, is ours and ours alone to make.
Choose Wisely!

W/Kindest Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus "The Janitor"

[kblood]

Peace & Bunny Hugs & Puppy Dog Kisses Upon You kblood!:

If I may present another Qualitative Benchmark of the Book of Yahweh, consider this: Evil is defined as any personal behaviour that is harmful to yourself or others.It is that simple.

W/Kindest Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus "The Janitor"

You are sweet :) That is the definition I would use as well. Problem is we cant life without any of the things that might lead to this. Part of why we are here I guess. Some people isolate themselves from society to find these higher truths. I guess im not the most social person either, but I just dont feel like living in the mountains or caves to get to know myself better. So far I have been able to do so without that. Sometimes I do take good long works on beaches or in forests though.

We wont be perfect while we live here, but we can try to do our best. Being that spiritual seems boring though. Especially because it is so hard to find the balance to do so. I just try to enjoy life the best ways possible, but I have done things that could be considered evil so many times that I have had problems with hating myself for long periods of time. Regretting the past just doesnt make you a better person, learning from the past might.

Thanks for the puppy kisses and bunny hugs :)

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

Peace & Greetings kblood!:

Some nuggets of profound wisdom in your last post. We all have been evil in one way or another. I, personally went through Yahwehs 613 Laws and Judgements and Statutes and checked off quite a few of them as having transgressed.

One cannot break a Law of Yahweh, one can only break themselves against the Law.

This is why Yahwehs authentic title is Father. As taught to us by Yahshua-
"Our Father who is in Heaven, Honoured is Your Name(Yahweh).

Father Yahweh may be translated as Supreme Teacher of Righteousness

We are here for experience. As long as you don't rape and kill children, rob and harm elderly people, rob and harm the blind,crippled or mentally challenged, there will be wiggle room. do not fear, rather, work on disciplining the carnal mind.

We are all in this together!

Kind Regards! Snoopsnuffleopagus

[ashyr]

fucking thread hijack!.


get back to "Satanist"

god damn christians.

[eternal_spirit]

fucking thread hijack!.


get back to "Satanist"

god damn christians.
............

What happened :confused: This is conusing, make any sense ashyr ?
Yaweh this yaweh that wtf?

I'll have to try read it again.

[kblood]

fucking thread hijack!.


get back to "Satanist"

god damn christians.

They will always try to see the happier loving side of our reality. Being a satanist probably makes you see it all as oppertunities, whereas a christian find it important to follow whatever rules are set by their religion. I wonder if the next religion is something that can be stopped. Do we really need to escape this duality?

[ashyr]

They will always try to see the happier loving side of our reality. Being a satanist probably makes you see it all as oppertunities,
finally someone with a great perspective view on it.

good stuff.

escaping duality is what i would call . "one of the final gates" in life you need to leave open. its main purpose is when you break free from the restraints of religion and start experiencing true spirituality that your still going to be fucked up by chrisitan morals and beliefs with this duality. its a hard one to escape. but it has to be done. run in the way of the hunter, not the fucking victim.

[archangel]

yes. but also eve existed before he made eve of his rib. thats one of the contradictions.

this was symbolic of mans dominance over woman. by him making an eve he could say was his own out strech his control over her. but if i remember correctly. the 1st EVE was the devil whom came back to show eve how terrible it is under ADAMS thumb. almost to prove to adam the error of his ways by making even his own creation turn against him.

thers alot of moral in that. its nothing more to me though than a fixation on a subject of some peoples live many many years before mine. its of no importance really. fuck im more important than that triffe.

but if its clues to the universe you seek. look, know, further.
the weapons of mass distruction are inside of you and me!

where are you pulling this gibberish from. What are your sources?

I agree these stories are symbolic but where are you getting these silly interpretations? These stories originate from Babylon/Sumer and their full stories and symbolic meanings are told there..

Here is what Satanism is in a nutshell....Low level initiates don't know shit and believe there is no god...no punishment for sins...go ahead and be an evil fuck and do what ever you want, live up this life and suck the earth dry as much as you can b/c once your dead thats it,lights out, enjoy it while you can. HIgher ups probably know all about the esoteric knowledge of things but lie about it to others to fuck with their heads, or use their knowledge for their own personal gain...

Sanantists are just as fucked up as the Illuminati globalists....Say how Christianity is your enemy all you want. It was your Team mates, who you satanists are in bed with who invinted christianity in the first place and hid all of the secret informantion. So who is your your enemy? Christians? or the people who invented christianity? Christianity may not be true in the literal sense, but modern day followers of it chose to follow it atleast in attempt to learn and practice goodness....what is your intention as a Satanist?

How bout this as in intention? Your Big Brothers Hid all of the Occult History of events and Religious History of the Planet. Gave the masses very basic relgions symbolic of other things which they do not understand. You guys as Satanists love to then show the Christians that there religions is fake, You don'tfully explain what is symbolic of. You teach Them nothing about the Postive occult religious knowledge . So when it is all said and done, you leave the person with nothing and in spiritual upheaval and you are gleaming with joy with what you just did to to this person.....This is your goal...Prove christ is fake...and then leave the individual with nothing...

I've read how Marilyn Manson, A satanists, Loved to go into churches and tell everyone how Jesus was Fake...What a great guy he is huh? I mean just look at him..Sucks his own dick..fucks animals on stage..what a great guy he is for going into those churches and trying to enlighten everyone...Was he trying to help them? expand their consiousness? or was his goal to mess with their heads??


Satanists are evil fucks in every sense of the word. No Good man who wishes to choose Love would label himself a Satanist (Opposer/adversary) or do the strange things associated with them. They have no sense of spirituality, oneness with the earth, Love, etc. No God, Do what you want to get your rocks off, Fuck over others to get ahead in life, lie, cheat and steal is their moto.

Call it what you want. Give it your own little definition. Try to explain it in positive way. You know what Satanism is all about, what it stands for, and what kind of people choose to join the so called church of Satan.

Many satanists have committed suicide, became massive drug addicts, child molestors, etc. What a great organization huh????

[kblood]

Marylin Manson loved to tell people that Jesus was fake? Lol :D And in churches of course...

I remember once going to an x-mas party with my brother and his friends at his daycare center. Then after santa had been there, I had to tell them how they had been fooled. I guess I never change all that much when I think about it :rolleyes: I still cant help but try showing people if they are getting fooled.

I have seen true satanist followers... those that doesnt care what the hell is in their way between them and eternal life if need be. They are so pitiful that they might even fear going for a walk in the sun :p

[ashyr]

archangel

im not even going to honor that post with a reply,
you obviously only read part of this thread.
and that shit about eve and adam and that bible shit can go and burn for all i care. this has nothing to do with anything. fuckn not my lifetime . none of it.



NEXT

[archangel]

archangel

im not even going to honor that post with a reply,
you obviously only read part of this thread.
and that shit about eve and adam and that bible shit can go and burn for all i care. this has nothing to do with anything. fuckn not my lifetime . none of it.



NEXT

You don't have anything to say because you know what I said is the truth..

Nothing to do with anything? you brought it up..

[emerald]

You don't have anything to say because you know what I said is the truth..

Nothing to do with anything? you brought it up..

What u said isnt the truth, but what u think its the truth, and its a big difference between these 2 notions. Mabe ashyr was wrong somehow, but at least he is not buying the "classical" bullshit about Adam and Eve. And next time try to inform urself from better sources (regardin satanism).

[archangel]

What u said isnt the truth, but what u think its the truth, and its a big difference between these 2 notions. Mabe ashyr was wrong somehow, but at least he is not buying the "classical" bullshit about Adam and Eve. And next time try to inform urself from better sources (regardin satanism).


Please point out statement by statment which statement I made that is not true?

wrong? hes over here preaching that he is enlightened and why he is a satanist and then ""MAKING UP"" fake up stories to say what things symbolize. All that I aksed was show me one bit of evidence to support your claim.

Please tell me why I am not informed? and while you are at it, please feel free to inform me...

[astraltraveller]

hello all

i would jusrt like to ask something . me and fccool made a few posts this morning on this thread and i whent for some sleep and now im back our posts have disapeard . could anyone please illuminate as to why this is .

thanks

[astraltraveller]

i see now , my posts were not deleted , they are just somewere else doh , im new here so please forgive my stoopidness .

[kblood]

Please point out statement by statment which statement I made that is not true?

wrong? hes over here preaching that he is enlightened and why he is a satanist and then ""MAKING UP"" fake up stories to say what things symbolize. All that I aksed was show me one bit of evidence to support your claim.

Please tell me why I am not informed? and while you are at it, please feel free to inform me...

I believe it is because it is very hard to dig up all the babylonian beliefs on the matter and compare them to the bible. Comparison between religions usually gives some very exciting answer with numerology. Secret codes and stuff ;) The different religions seems to be "cooperating" with each other on higher levels than we are unable to comprehend.

[ashyr]

The main reason that i think all this is bullshit is because no matter what one says about any thing religious the next will turn around with some contradiction. Its all heresay. The bullshit about eve etc is only my interp of that crap any way. Just because i say that this is what i think about some bullshit. Doesn't mean i believe the bullshit in the first place. Because like i said. Means nothin to me. If you have mistaken me for someone who gives a shit on how correct you are at reading the bible or quoting it. Then i guess your talking to the wrong man. This i feel has nothing to do with being a satanist. Although there are religions based on christian satanic beliefs. This is like i've posted many times. Is nothing more than a reflection in the pool of organised religion. Thus majorally christian. The satanism i believe to be a true rep of man and beast. Not one based on a god you cannot see or touch.

[kblood]

Sounds like you are on to something Ashyr. Believing in one religion alone, wont exactly get you in contact with your spirit and soul, in a clearer way. Most religion simply clouds your vision of the real ways of life.

[archangel]

The main reason that i think all this is bullshit is because no matter what one says about any thing religious the next will turn around with some contradiction. Its all heresay. The bullshit about eve etc is only my interp of that crap any way. Just because i say that this is what i think about some bullshit. Doesn't mean i believe the bullshit in the first place. Because like i said. Means nothin to me. If you have mistaken me for someone who gives a shit on how correct you are at reading the bible or quoting it. Then i guess your talking to the wrong man. This i feel has nothing to do with being a satanist. Although there are religions based on christian satanic beliefs. This is like i've posted many times. Is nothing more than a reflection in the pool of organised religion. Thus majorally christian. The satanism i believe to be a true rep of man and beast. Not one based on a god you cannot see or touch.

then I think you should point out these are simply your beliefs and you are basing them off of nothing.

So what I am gathering here is that you believe there is no God or afterlife. satanism is atheism in a nutshell? you believe on should complete give in to his animal insticts?

I agree with you in that organized religion is a joke. But most of the secret societies and mystery schools all believe in immortality of the consiouness. why not join one of these schools instead if you are completely fed up with organized religion instead of labeling yourself an atheist/satanist??

lets say you are 100% right in that there is absolutly no God/afterlife; would it still not be good to develope the human consiouness for the sake of good ness; teach morality, respect, compassion, community, etc?? would this not benefit the world better than saying..."im just an advanced animal who is going to obey his animal insticts??""" I doubt humans would have made any type of progress as a race with that type of thinking.

[revolution 9]

Pointing out that something someone says is their beliefs should be self-evident, shouldn't it? If I say it, it's my beliefs, right? And how can you say all his beliefs are off of nothing? Since they're his beliefs, why does it matter what they're based off of? If it's so invaluable and pointless, why is it still being debated?

[archangel]

Pointing out that something someone says is their beliefs should be self-evident, shouldn't it? If I say it, it's my beliefs, right? And how can you say all his beliefs are off of nothing? Since they're his beliefs, why does it matter what they're based off of? If it's so invaluable and pointless, why is it still being debated?

because belief systems are pointless...it is blind faith

it is what you know that matters. what can you prove.

a person can prove that the stories of adam and Eve are symbolic of ancient historical events. Look at the Sumerian Tablets. A person should believe these before we care at all about Ashyr's beliefs...

I can make the claim that the earth is flat and say that is my belief but that doesn't mean i'm right....

I guess you are saying that Ashyr bases what he says merely on his "beliefs" just as any christian does. I guess I would have to agree with you on this.

[kblood]

The main difference between satanism is simply wether you believe in a god or in yourself. I just hope believing in yourself doesnt make you egoistic and cruel to others. Love gets you a long way in life, and usually makes everything easier. It still helps to also prove that you arent stupid of course, but shouldnt be for the reason of proving it alone.

Hope that makes sense. That is my beleifs anyway :)

[binhdinh_khiwarrior]

"make a journey, you make a journey, we make a journey together"

ur a funny cunt hey! ya know i'm gl;ad that ppl such as ur self arten't burned at stakes anymore or we ould be denied such entertaining comedy!-well that and i would be burned, tied up next to you haha, damn witch finder's!

"though i think while residing in the 3rd dimension there is no way you cannot do anything here withough embracing that. and this is satans' realm (that of the physical) cant beat em join em."

that's interesting that you said that, maybe taht's why i feel like there is a force against me - sorry that may sound fucked up, so let me explain, what i mean is everytime i try to do somethin to improve my siotuation something seems to happen o fuck it up, often of my own making (so i exclude those situations from this) but then there are times when inexplicable things happen, that are completely out of my control, and even out of human cpontrol-no ppl are actually involved but somethign fucked up will happen. for example...i was preparing for a uni exam, and was cramming quite successfully, worked on it for hours and hours but couldn't sleep well,was finnaly about to get to sleep and a little "beep,beep,beep" woke me up suddenly, like u knopw when ur on the edge of sleeping and ur liek "yeah! bring it on!" then a noise will wake u up and u will be pissed off!? it was that, except this beep beep, beep came from a little gadget that has a radio, and some other things in it as well (it's only a small thing that fits into ur hand) the thing is, i had had this thing for a few weeks, it had never madethis sound before, and has never made this sound since, but it made it at the worst possible time and fucked up my sleep (which is essential if u study) had about 2-3 hours then went to classes the next day, had one more night to the test and the ppl in the student loging next door decid to have a drinking party (in the 3rd week of classes on a tuesday) until 3 in the morning
i didn't go out and say anthing coz i would have done something bad, coz i was pissed off-probably would have gotton kicked out, i hadn't sleept properly for a couple days at that point andhad gotton sick too, and still had this uckin test to contend with), anyway, they kept me awake and so i woke up late and i was late to the test and couldn't finish it properly-i had like 3 minuts left for a 10 minut test. this is only a more inor example of this, but my life is rife with this kind of shiot, it is as though something will alter a siuation in order to produce a certain response from you-and we have the choice of whether to follow or not, i choice not to react how i wanted to that situation and i was able to get another chance at taking that test (lucky) however if ihad of reacted in the way i nwhich i really wanted to-and very nearly did, walk out side with a metal bar screaming and yelling (i was pretty exausted) i would have been kicked out amnd fucked MYSELF up.

do u know what i mean, i this what u are talking about? it felt to me that "satan" was the cunt who tried to get me fucked up, and "god" was the dude who gave me patience not to fuck my self up and worked through the kindness of my teacher in giving me another shot,m ya know what I mean?
i'm using terms like satan and god in the christian sences even though they are not really a conception in my paradigm of the universe as such-not in the way the christians beleive anyway. "satan" and "God" the "bad" the "good", "light" "dark", all opposing forces that must exist WITHIN a "gelling" mechanism that allows these two forces to exist together- this is my understanding of God, notwhat a book written by a man or men says. i only even use the term "God" because i do not have a better word, ya know? stupid language!

I was wondering ashyr, do you practise "majik"? if you do could you give me some insight into what it is you do/what for ect please, taht would be most interesting.
thanks mate

[binhdinh_khiwarrior]

"Many satanists have committed suicide, became massive drug addicts, child molestors, etc. What a great organization huh????"

i may remind you that just as many christian/catholic/"holy" organisations/ppl have commited the same atrocities in the name of their GOD. 9and yes i know what ur about to say) saying you are christian dose not make you a good peron, or automatically allow you into heaven right? you have to live it! however, if you are not chritian you cannot go to heaven and are automatically dammned by default, so it is necessary to be christianm and it is also uneccessay at the same time. you should not condem other ppl's beliefs so quickly mate, do unto others...remember the early christian years (not literally of course!) if you dont denounce the one God u get fed to the lions..? ur mentality is the same as those who opposed your religion so many centuries ago. i think God can stick up for himself, and you need to wory about ur own spiritual development rather than others....

[archangel]

"Many satanists have committed suicide, became massive drug addicts, child molestors, etc. What a great organization huh????"

i may remind you that just as many christian/catholic/"holy" organisations/ppl have commited the same atrocities in the name of their GOD. 9and yes i know what ur about to say) saying you are christian dose not make you a good peron, or automatically allow you into heaven right? you have to live it! however, if you are not chritian you cannot go to heaven and are automatically dammned by default, so it is necessary to be christianm and it is also uneccessay at the same time. you should not condem other ppl's beliefs so quickly mate, do unto others...remember the early christian years (not literally of course!) if you dont denounce the one God u get fed to the lions..? ur mentality is the same as those who opposed your religion so many centuries ago. i think God can stick up for himself, and you need to wory about ur own spiritual development rather than others....

what are you smoking bro??? what the hell are you talking about???

Christianity is my religion??? I'm not a christian. I never said it was holy. Read the whole thread before u post jibberish.

This is the satanism forum. We are discussing what satanism. Im allowed to have any opinion I want. Got that Chief???

So i guess you are saying Satanism is a belief system??? its not based on facts??? OK.


I am being very open minded here, I want to know exactly what satanism is, why someone would want to be one, what is the goal of a satanist, and what is the goal of satanism as a whole.

[pierre_jean]

I think satanism is an occupation as others. There is no God, there is no Satan.

Nietzsche believed there could be positive possibilities for humans without God. Relinquishing the belief in God opens the way for human creative abilities to fully develop. The Christian God, with his arbitrary commands and prohibitions, would no longer stand in the way, so human beings might stop turning their eyes toward a supernatural realm and begin to acknowledge the value of this world. The recognition that "God is dead" would be like a blank canvas. It is a freedom to become something new, different, creative — a freedom to be something without being forced to accept the baggage of the past.

God is dead.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_is_dead

[revolution 9]

The problem is you're taking a label claimed by MANY as Satanist and asking what it is. It's not that simple. Arguing that it's "all symbolic" is what many Satanists believe anyway. Are you talking to a Theistic or a Non-Theistic Satanist? That's the very first question that needs to be answered before you can even ask what a Satanist is. Saying "There is no Satan" is something many Satanists would agree with.

[archangel]

The problem is you're taking a label claimed by MANY as Satanist and asking what it is. It's not that simple. Arguing that it's "all symbolic" is what many Satanists believe anyway. Are you talking to a Theistic or a Non-Theistic Satanist? That's the very first question that needs to be answered before you can even ask what a Satanist is. Saying "There is no Satan" is something many Satanists would agree with.

well then

explain the difference between a theistic and non theistic satanist.

if we are all going to say the "christian" "Jewish" bible is all symbolic lets at least say what it is symbolic of. These answers can be found in the Sumerian tablets.

Lets use facts. Or atleast the closest thing we have to facts. And not beliefs.

[kblood]

Having had what I believe to be "contact" with god and satan (although these are just two names that people stamp on them), I do believe that all religions have truth in them. No matter how far fetched their beliefs might be. Satanism doesnt exactly seem like the worst of religions I have found. At least satanism isnt about killing or doing evil at its core, as have been mentioned so many times. It is about being free and not let any religion hold you down. I have my own religion and beliefs as I see it. I see god and the devil as part of our personality, instead of the beings described so differently in so many books, like the bible and others. When all comes down to it, to define my own religion, I try to take the best of all religions, beliefs and all that is known in science, and try to find a way to make it all fit as one. Then the world seem alot more logical I think. Basic psychology, mathematics, quantum physics... it all seems to make more sense, when you see it with the view of one who believes that there is a greater meaning to it all. Cycles of life, cycles of death, cycles of time and all the other cycles we got around us, helps us to innevitable find a better future for us all, although there might sometimes be difficult times to get through first.

If only you have faith in yourself instead of those around you as well, then you might end up being lost in a cold dark place, where it is difficult to get away from ;) There is always a way out though. Just need to make the mind understand what that way is, and how to get back to the familiar things we know in our life.

[revolution 9]

But it's discussion about beliefs! You're asking people their beliefs, and why they have them, then debating it's not about beliefs.

In short, a theistic Satanist, as the name would imply, believes Satan is a real entity. Non-theistic Satanists do not.

[kblood]

But it's discussion about beliefs! You're asking people their beliefs, and why they have them, then debating it's not about beliefs.

In short, a theistic Satanist, as the name would imply, believes Satan is a real entity. Non-theistic Satanists do not.

That is what I was writing. Non-theistic Satanists do not believe in satan, they believe in free will. As I see it anyway, or I have misunderstood something. But as far as I know non-theistic Satanists are about freedom and not having beliefs in religions. About the same as atheism I guess. Not sure though since I havent looked much into this. Last post I simply tried to describe my view of it all.

[archangel]

Kblood--What a great response. Excellent view point.

Revolution 9

Theistic satanist means they believe in an entity called Satan
Non theistic means they do not.

OK, Well that tells me absolutely Zero

[pierre_jean]

That is what I was writing. Non-theistic Satanists do not believe in satan, they believe in free will. As I see it anyway, or I have misunderstood something. But as far as I know non-theistic Satanists are about freedom and not having beliefs in religions. About the same as atheism I guess. Not sure though since I havent looked much into this. Last post I simply tried to describe my view of it all.

It's perfectly clear but why considering these people who believe in free will (100% agree) as "non-theistic Satanists". Why not just "free will people" ? Why do they need to be "satanic" labelled, reffering to the great book of propaganda (the bible) ? Maybe a stupid question but I don't understand :D

[kblood]

It's perfectly clear but why considering these people who believe in free will (100% agree) as "non-theistic Satanists". Why not just "free will people" ? Why do they need to be "satanic" labelled, reffering to the great book of propaganda (the bible) ? Maybe a stupid question but I don't understand :D

Good question. I have wondered about that as well. I think it has something to do with rock and roll music ;) Also I guess it is to show that someone oppose the bible, and therefore call themselves satanists. I guess satanists got better answers than me though, but I think this is how I heard satanists describe themselves on some TV show.

[pierre_jean]

Good question. I have wondered about that as well. I think it has something to do with rock and roll music ;) Also I guess it is to show that someone oppose the bible, and therefore call themselves satanists. I guess satanists got better answers than me though, but I think this is how I heard satanists describe themselves on some TV show.

So I'm a satanist too. But I didn't knew it :D

[ashyr]

The main difference between satanism is simply wether you believe in a god or in yourself great arguement.

look this is some funny shit right here.

Im partially known for my nihilistic emotional spats. but i belive also satan to not exist. but also believe that entitys do exist.


when you get back to it. energy returns to the source. thru your instincts. you cant help it. its natural.

binhdinh_khiwarrior, i hear what your saying, and its a little warped yourself to think that something out of your hands was responsible for the bad stuff that happend or the stuff you might have percieved as negative, and yet somehow thing that a totally different situation or section exists from where came the good moments or whatever.

you and i know thats not the case. and you probably dont even believe it that way anyhow. but these things are direct results of your actions.
because you didnt go out there and do your banana, you can never say what would have happend. you cant even begin to speculate or imagine. so dont. but from my view. maybe it was your instincts telling you to go out there and smash some faces because you wanted to sleep. but you dropped nuts and didnt. ?? you punish yourself.

pierre_jean , welcome to the thread =D

kblood your making some great steps , some of what your saying is more true and powerful than we know.

[eternal_spirit]

You lot need to do some research, Trying to wrap it all up in cotton wool jeez! Sounds like sugar coated satanism to me. All cults have a false front and the spiel usually goes like this ( we're here to set you free) Take this last line with sarcasm, the true meaning is the opposite of what's been said.

And besides it was Jesus who was the true rebel in the Bible he spoke out against the Jewish priesthood and the ruling Elite.
He knew they were worshiping the "dark side" and were into sacraficial ritual long before he was born.

[archangel]

great arguement.

look this is some funny shit right here.

Im partially known for my nihilistic emotional spats. but i belive also satan to not exist. but also believe that entitys do exist.


when you get back to it. energy returns to the source. thru your instincts. you cant help it. its natural.

binhdinh_khiwarrior, i hear what your saying, and its a little warped yourself to think that something out of your hands was responsible for the bad stuff that happend or the stuff you might have percieved as negative, and yet somehow thing that a totally different situation or section exists from where came the good moments or whatever.

you and i know thats not the case. and you probably dont even believe it that way anyhow. but these things are direct results of your actions.
because you didnt go out there and do your banana, you can never say what would have happend. you cant even begin to speculate or imagine. so dont. but from my view. maybe it was your instincts telling you to go out there and smash some faces because you wanted to sleep. but you dropped nuts and didnt. ?? you punish yourself.

pierre_jean , welcome to the thread =D

kblood your making some great steps , some of what your saying is more true and powerful than we know.

so you as a satanists do not believe in GOD. I'm not sure God is the proper term. I see you believe there is energy and people return to the source. Do you view this as an afterlife? a devine realm?

you say you believe in "entities". What/Who are these entities that a satanists might possible channel or try to communicate with? are they evil? nuetral? good?

I see what you are saying about following your instincts. But don't we all have instincts that we know are not right? Would the world really be a better place if everyone just followed their gut instincts?

Why would a person who is fed up with organized religion chose to join the church of satan as apposed to freemasonry or some other secret society?

I'm not trying to give your the 3rd degree here bro, I seriously am interested in your response.

--AA

[eternal_spirit]

http://home.earthlink.net/~mrpsr/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/deluxebible.jpgMasonic Bible Time is a river, and books are boats. Many volumes start down that stream, only to be wrecked and lost beyond recall in its sands. Only a few, a very few, endure the testings of time and live to bless the ages following. We pay homage to the greatest of all books - the one enduring Book which has traveled down to us from the far past, freighted with the richest treasure that ever any book has brought to humanity. What a sight it is to see men gathered about an open Bible - how typical of the spirit and genius of Masonry, its great and simple faith and its benign ministry to mankind.- R.W. and Rev. Joseph Fort Newton
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Look they all use the same book the Bible.

[eternal_spirit]

The bible came from the Torah talmud jewish religion clue research the Talmud.

[archangel]

I have read that the Torah actually has its roots in Egypt from the Tarot cards/ Book of Toth

[eternal_spirit]

I have read that the Torah actually has its roots in Egypt from the Tarot cards/ Book of Toth

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Probably and the Egyptian book of the dead. Crowley = Satanist and Mason
His father was a christian preacher man.

[ashyr]

the energies that exist, must be in someway all conected to originate from one source. most channels of energy is just from chaneling other persons subconsiouc like an INTERNET of conciousness,

ive done it heaps on time delay,

one time i took a massive dose of LIFE =) u know what im talkin about
and watched the live lotto draw with my mates while i channelled the results 5 second before each ball dropped out. i said 3 of them and then they all got really freaked out, then i stopped to not make them go mental, and i knew the 4th one in myhead, then i said the 5th one. by that time they were screaming that i should have brought a ticket. i said , i merely recieved a channelling of the transmission from people who already knew 5 seconds ago/ lag from the tv reception decieves us. u know what i mean,

the concious enemy is someone who runs towards the "ANSWER" and yet takes 2 steps forward, turns around and tells the next line of people, what he thinks it is, forming a wall. have a look you will see it. =D

by the way , i do not rehearse anything i say like this, its just straigh from my psyche to the keyboard, . soz for not proof readin, its not my thing. i spew it thats it.

[kblood]

Nicely done Ashyr :) That is how you train your preminition sense or whatever its called ;) Some people have tried using it to guess how the stockmarket will become, winning lottery numbers and so on, and some have succeeded. Being able to do this with higher powers though, makes you realise how wrong it is to cheat your way through life. It is simply easier and feels better to do it all in a honest way.

[binhdinh_khiwarrior]

This is the satanism forum. We are discussing what satanism. Im allowed to have any opinion I want. Got that Chief???

And I must silence my own opinion for yours?

[revolution 9]

Informative site: http://www.geocities.com/satanicreds/

[eat_a_grey]

Sing me a song, you're a singer
do me a wrong, you're a bringer of evil
The Devil is never a maker
the less that you give, you're a taker
So it's on and on and on, it's Heaven and Hell.................

[edelweiss pirate]

Eternal Spirit
Have you read the Egyptian book of the coming forth by day?

Do you know what its about?

New testament? Gospels?

Do you know what they're about?

Know your subject before you ponitificate.

Knowledge is power but the lights are dim round here...

They're books to empower the human soul. But no... they're evil right... Still some people say Icke is an antisemite too.

[eternal_spirit]

Eternal Spirit
Have you read the Egyptian book of the coming forth by day?

Do you know what its about?

New testament? Gospels?

Do you know what they're about?

Know your subject before you ponitificate.

Knowledge is power but the lights are dim round here...

They're books to empower the human soul. But no... they're evil right... Still some people say Icke is an antisemite too.
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I don't know what you're beef is man. You're the X mason who wen't seeking enlightenment in the wrong places, when you got burnt and mind controlled and schizophrenic ullimination ( You're words which you've used on this forum many times) So you wen't running to daddy Jesus for fogiveness. Masons = Bible. Christ = Bible Satanism = Bible. Out of the frying pan into the fire?

If you're the authority around here spill what you know stop shilling get spilling or don't you know what the issue is here? We're all waiting. anything usefull to add. I've done my bit on satanism. it's about time someone else had some input because I've had enough of this bulshit.

[eternal_spirit]

pirate?????????????????

[ashyr]

arggg matey lol

why are so many offended when it comes to view points or pushin the template.

who cares what someone thinks of your belief. i dont care about yours you shouldnt care about mine. the ego might get damaged if you have vested energy in trying to make this work and failing, its kinda like how that quote goes "Truths initial comotion is in direct proportion as to how well the lie was believed"

whos discrediting who here? no one. cause most of you are repeating crap that has been written for us. but its never for us. religion is something we hold to give to others. its baggage. throw it away.

[ashyr]

Comon guys we alomst got 100.

that be a good acheivemnt wouldnt it?

[draconis]

To be a satanist means you would have to remain participant in a closed mind-game/spiritual jail cell.

Just as God needs Satan, Satanism needs Christianity to whine about. Anyway, it's two sides of the same coin. Both bibles worship the same God so really...what's the fuss?

[turquoisefyre]

Both bibles worship the same God so really...what's the fuss?


that's what bugs the shit out of me. i'm tired of a light that casts such a big shadow...

[eternal_spirit]

that's what bugs the shit out of me. i'm tired of a light that casts such a big shadow...

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God made man in his own image? Or did man make God in his own imagination:confused:

[turquoisefyre]

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God made man in his own image? Or did man make God in his own imagination:confused:

Audioslave - Show Me How To Live


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MfMtivHV47A

:confused: