Are our phones in each country tapped?

[chandrakavi]

Each time a speak with a friend a she or he, sometimes while I am talking
about the New World Order, I hear the sound of someone pushing a button, I ask my friend and they haven't touched anything. This has happened many times, with different people, in different occasions, some times I wonder, but then forget about it, then it happens in a different day and month again,
and I am left wondering if I am tapped, and my friends also. And it is specifically while we are talking about the NWO ,the sound of a button being pushed, a bit like saying "stop it, change the subject" .

I suppose some of this must be going on, not too difficult for the phone companies to do, then I am left wondering if it isn't so:confused:
Sometimes my friends get the same feeling.

In Chile the ITT (International Telephone Telegraphs) a transnational, with the help of Henry Kissinger did this in the 70's. All this was seen last year under George W. Bush that all Americans were wiretapped, it seems people have forgotten. They have been doing this in different Countries, and once people start talking ,they simply forget ,after all we are allowed to talk aren't we?

Then why not wiretap all telephones acrosss the world? Get the WHOLE pie, not just a piece of it. Telephones (not cell phones, although they too are in the story) The one attached with a cable to your wall.

I mean that should be the most important piece of information ,what people speak about themselves and others, what they think and feel,
what they are planning to do, valuable information for those who are not suppose to listen to private conversations, but do anyway, NWO and Intelligence people.

Sometimes I feel speaking personally makes a difference, although phoning cannot be avoided, no way, how? There doesn't seem to be a law that punishes this ,specially if a government does it, nothing ever happens to them, it comes out on the news, and in a short time people go on with their lives, and the agents continue with their phone tapping. Life continues.

Maybe sometimes we could start talking about delicious food so the guy on the other side of the line tapping, an listening, will start to get hungry,
with such a stupid and boring job.:D

I suppose it is all part of the CONTROL PACKAGE, PC, TV, CELL PHONE,WALL PHONE,NEWSPAPERS, RADIO ,and what have you.:rolleyes:

One can never prove it until it is known for good through some leak in the press.

In the meantime, nothing else but to live your life ,
The Masters of the East have always been right when they have said that SILENCE and meditation are the most important things. The rest is noise

INFINITE LOVE TO ALL:):)

[lumukanda]

we had the laws passed to tap our phones in the 90's already, after the spate of bombings in cape town, actually, all the new government did was reenact old apartheid terrorism laws.
often i hear clicking noises on the phone, sometimes my voice echoes, i dunno if either of those is evidence of tapping, but i'm pretty sure they are listening, there's not an agent on the other end, it's all automated.

[chandrakavi]

we had the laws passed to tap our phones in the 90's already, after the spate of bombings in cape town, actually, all the new government did was reenact old apartheid terrorism laws.
often i hear clicking noises on the phone, sometimes my voice echoes, i dunno if either of those is evidence of tapping, but i'm pretty sure they are listening, there's not an agent on the other end, it's all automated.

Thank you Lumukanda for your feed-back,
so it is all automated eh? I should have known,
probably made to pay mechanical attention to some specific words
who knows? World Order. If it is recorded they can listen to it when ever they feel like it. Must cost a fortune to do all that with so many people.,
but from what you tell me IT'S LEGAL!
so "THE WAR ON TERRORISM" again goes to show
it's a war against us.
So you have had that feeling, and have heard noises and echoes, so I'm not the only one, which is nice to know.:):D


INFINITE LOVE:):)

[lumukanda]

check this link out to get you started, it listens for certain key words and then flags you, what it does then i'm not sure, but one thing is for sure, they are listening.

Echelon (signals intelligence) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[chandrakavi]

check this link out to get you started, it listens for certain key words and then flags you, what it does then i'm not sure, but one thing is for sure, they are listening.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON

Wow! Great information, hadn't seen it before!:eek:
Now I am getting a clearer picture of how they work world-wide
Thank you!:o

[i_am]

Well!! Be careful what you say in chat rooms :eek:


Haneef's 'online conversation' revealed

http://au.news.yahoo.com/070722/2/140yr.html

Immigration Minister Kevin Andrews has revealed details of an online conversation between Mohamed Haneef and his brother in India to back his decision to cancel the doctor's working visa.

Mr Andrews told reporters of previously unreleased information which he said led him to have concerns about Dr Haneef.

He released advice from the solicitor-general which found information provided to him from the Australian Federal Police (AFP) was sufficient grounds to revoke Dr Haneef's visa.

"The solicitor-general has advised me that based on the material that is known now, I could make the same decision as I originally did," he told reporters.

"I will not, however, release the full ... protected material as I've been advised by the commissioner of the Australian Federal Police that this would have the effect of prejudicing or jeopardising further investigations."

Mr Andrews said the solicitor-general's advice covered matters such as contact between Dr Haneef and his cousins in the UK, who are accused of involvement in a failed plot to bomb central London and Glasgow airport.

"Importantly, there was a computer room conversation, a chat room conversation, with Dr Haneef's brother in India on the afternoon before his attempted hasty departure from Australia," he said.

[chandrakavi]

Hi I AM!
Written and spoken , even this site---Hello to the CIA and other Intelligence agents in case they are reading this, hope they find a better job,:rolleyes::D
have to be careful with everything
and specially the phone, no privacy left for all,
but life goes on.

INFINITE LOVE:):)

[chandrakavi]

Just spoke to a girl, and she told me she had heard echoes and voices and entire conversations, which often cross her phone while she is speaking.
It is nice to talk about this, so you no longer have doubts, so what is written on it in the wikipedia, and other places on it.

Maybe there is some kind of silencer for the recording while one is speaking,
something that distorts the sound so they can't make out what one is saying.

not that there is anything to hide, but it is not natural nor nice to have a spy machine on the other side of the line.

Hello again CIA people, I am eating a delicious piece of chocolate,
too bad you are too bussy doing your work, I'll share it with my friends
you guys are a "witness", we live, and you only "watch how we and other people live" a sad story for you Intelligence guys.:rolleyes:

INFINITE LOVE TO ALL:):o;)

[auron]

Hello there to the monitors!!

http://www.freewebs.com/amberleaf2007/humour.htm

[chandrakavi]

HA ha funny though real, liked your link AURON!:D:D:D

Thanks

[chandrakavi]

I wonder how much all this monitoring, and surveillance over us
in our private conversations actually cost.
How the few NEED to control the many, to be "informed".:mad:

[i_am]

I wonder how much all this monitoring, and surveillance over us
in our private conversations actually cost.
How the few NEED to control the many, to be "informed".:mad:


meh! They will just create more money from nothing.

[adzboarder]

I heard somewhere that the powers can listen to you via your mobile phone even when it's switched off!

In the states, the free phone given out by Bell Western years ago when phones were new actually had a listening device built into it!

Try looking that one up, they have been doing all this for nearly 50 years guys, nothing new.

[zoloko]

I LOVE YOU!

Do you have any information on E-Mail tapping??:confused:

THANK YOU!

[bennett211085]

I hate using phones and avoid using them at all costs. I think the fear developed when I was made aware that my conversations where being monitered. Everytime I picked up my house phone The first thing I would here was a "beep" sound, and soon this started happening on my mobile aswell.
Even though I'm not envolved in anything illeagle anymore, I still tend to avoid my phone.

[chandrakavi]

Although people tend to forget, since 9/11 president Bush
and the White House are "authorized" to intervene all
the world's e-mails, to know what the "terrorists" are doing,
therefore they have it all the telephones, e-mail internet control,
cell phones, and everything digital and electrical.
Everything digital is not for our advantange, it is to have everyone under control. I do not know the details, but we should not forget this.:mad:

[chandrakavi]

If I know anything else I will let you know:D:)

[popeye11]

Of course, I know my phones calls are listened to, but maybe they will give up after a while. I just watch what I say. The same with what I am writing now. They can listen and watch anything, anytime they want. I have sometimes thought why would they want to take the time, why would I be so interesting, but it doesn't take any time when it's done with machines.

[chandrakavi]

Sometime one gets the feeling that all the opinion written in internet,
makes all the Intelligence work easier(with machines of course)
and left in writing, saves them a lot of work, whenever they want to find out
about anything. Peoples opinion's couldn't be more important to them. They'll probably start worrying about a guy who stops using internet, got out of the control line, although everyone in lined up in internet today.

[popeye11]

chandrakavi, you make a great point. Our opinions are important to them, and technology as useful as it is, has made it so easy to keep track of everyone. Sometimes I just want to go off into the outbacks somewhere or the middle of the ocean, but they probably have that covered as well. Someone said once there will come a time when the only place to hide is deep inside, but maybe they've found a way to tamper with that.

[chandrakavi]

Right Popeye11!
they've got it all under control,
but usually happens that SOME, not all,
when they discover the inner start living a more decent life for themselves,
once they know it, after having gained a lot of money, they want to quit it all
and be able to live a peaceful existence, and will search for it, and help those on the way. The majority of them will remain not understanding a thing, but some, a few, will understand immediatly, it is a big difference in quality of life.:)

[misscpb]

Each time a speak with a friend a she or he, sometimes while I am talking
about the New World Order, I hear the sound of someone pushing a button, I ask my friend and they haven't touched anything. This has happened many times, with different people, in different occasions, some times I wonder, but then forget about it, then it happens in a different day and month again,
and I am left wondering if I am tapped, and my friends also. And it is specifically while we are talking about the NWO ,the sound of a button being pushed, a bit like saying "stop it, change the subject" .

I suppose some of this must be going on, not too difficult for the phone companies to do, then I am left wondering if it isn't so:confused:
Sometimes my friends get the same feeling.

In Chile the ITT (International Telephone Telegraphs) a transnational, with the help of Henry Kissinger did this in the 70's. All this was seen last year under George W. Bush that all Americans were wiretapped, it seems people have forgotten. They have been doing this in different Countries, and once people start talking ,they simply forget ,after all we are allowed to talk aren't we?

Then why not wiretap all telephones acrosss the world? Get the WHOLE pie, not just a piece of it. Telephones (not cell phones, although they too are in the story) The one attached with a cable to your wall.

I mean that should be the most important piece of information ,what people speak about themselves and others, what they think and feel,
what they are planning to do, valuable information for those who are not suppose to listen to private conversations, but do anyway, NWO and Intelligence people.

Sometimes I feel speaking personally makes a difference, although phoning cannot be avoided, no way, how? There doesn't seem to be a law that punishes this ,specially if a government does it, nothing ever happens to them, it comes out on the news, and in a short time people go on with their lives, and the agents continue with their phone tapping. Life continues.

Maybe sometimes we could start talking about delicious food so the guy on the other side of the line tapping, an listening, will start to get hungry,
with such a stupid and boring job.:D

I suppose it is all part of the CONTROL PACKAGE, PC, TV, CELL PHONE,WALL PHONE,NEWSPAPERS, RADIO ,and what have you.:rolleyes:

One can never prove it until it is known for good through some leak in the press.

In the meantime, nothing else but to live your life ,
The Masters of the East have always been right when they have said that SILENCE and meditation are the most important things. The rest is noise

INFINITE LOVE TO ALL:):)

Hi

I believe anything that is on your computer is possibly monitored as well as the usual telephones, mobiles, maybe the television, radio. Who knows. I think once you become aware of what is going on around us you certainly think twice.

[chandrakavi]

Hi

I believe anything that is on your computer is possibly monitored as well as the usual telephones, mobiles, maybe the television, radio. Who knows. I think once you become aware of what is going on around us you certainly think twice.

I suppose they can monitor ANYTHING ELECTRONIC, all we have is electronic, after all what isn't ? We depend on electricity for communications.

We'll have to go back to PERSONAL CONTACT CONVERSATIONS again.
Even this post will be read by an agent.....

[misscpb]

Bring back the messenger pigeons

[chandrakavi]

Bring back the messenger pigeons

I don't know if it would work, but it sure sounds romantic!
going back to the times of the Knights of King Arthur and Merlin.
Definetly mystics like Merlin don't use electronic cell phones or anything like that,
although their disciples do.!

They , the Masters believe in ENERGY, not in ELECTRICITY...

And of course in LOVE

Best to you

[chandrakavi]

In the thread WHO WAS LISTENING TO US,
where they talk on this same subject, they mention "trigger words"
mentioned in a conversation,
subjects in which they are interest in, must be thousands or millions.

Whatever happened to privacy?:confused:

Nixon being impeached for recording private conversations.

Is there such a thing as implementing the LAW?

After all Bush said the Constitution is just a piece of paper,
seems he knew what he was talking about.

[popeye11]

Well, I was just going to say the same thing about trigger words. Privacy, what is that? No more. It is hard to believe that so many people are buying into the crap. Like lets get Osama, that will solve everything, right? So lets take everyone's imaginary freedoms away in the name of safety . Your either with us or agin us. Switch over to Britney Spears or OJ. How dumb does it have to get? Have you gotten your implant today, never know when you might be kidnapped.

[misscpb]

I don't know if it would work, but it sure sounds romantic!
going back to the times of the Knights of King Arthur and Merlin.
Definetly mystics like Merlin don't use electronic cell phones or anything like that,
although their disciples do.!

They , the Masters believe in ENERGY, not in ELECTRICITY...

And of course in LOVE

Best to you

We can always rely on our faithful animals ;)

[chandrakavi]

We can always rely on our faithful animals ;)


On that you are absolutely right MISSCPB,
much more than some of those NWO that say they are "human".
Animals have a great wisdom, and a sense perception I wish we had...:D:)

[chandrakavi]

This has to do also with U.S. re-checking what privacy is.
Is it used anymore?
Or are things simply faked, a long time ago, and conversations recorded just the same,
after all, we do hear a BEEP, a lot of times when we are speaking,
thinking the other person did it. and since the ydidn't do it, well BINGO!
you daid a trigger word.
Maybe privacy is old fashioned these days....

[neil]

There's a couple of things to bear in mind about telephone tapping. Ever since telephones were invented, those with access to the networks/exchanges have been able to listen to any call at any time. And of course letters can be intercepted any time. So it's safe to assume that's the case with another other form of communication (mobile, email, etc.).

It may be that, with advanced voice recognition technology, it's possible for voice-activated keyword searching to automatically flag up certain communications: it's relatively simple to envisage how that may be done in respect of emails.

However, unless there's a countrywide or worldwide information-gathering exercise (think of the time and effort it would take to collate and analyse all the data collected) your communications would generally be intercepted if you or people you're in contact with are/were under surveillance for something relatively specific.

If you've stuff to say that you want to keep private, speak quietly with people you trust and never through open communications networks!

[chandrakavi]

There's a couple of things to bear in mind about telephone tapping. Ever since telephones were invented, those with access to the networks/exchanges have been able to listen to any call at any time. And of course letters can be intercepted any time. So it's safe to assume that's the case with another other form of communication (mobile, email, etc.).

It may be that, with advanced voice recognition technology, it's possible for voice-activated keyword searching to automatically flag up certain communications: it's relatively simple to envisage how that may be done in respect of emails.

However, unless there's a countrywide or worldwide information-gathering exercise (think of the time and effort it would take to collate and analyse all the data collected) your communications would generally be intercepted if you or people you're in contact with are/were under surveillance for something relatively specific.

If you've stuff to say that you want to keep private, speak quietly with people you trust and never through open communications networks!

HI NEil!

I agree with you that this has been done ever since they were invented.
The recording is done by machines ,so don't think theres much time or effort or money
to do all this things.
A friend of mine was intercepted in his phone, because he wrote an article in the newspaper,
with his opinion not favoraable to the woman president of Chile. So i guess they look after everyone who calls him. Freedom of speech? a farce.

About saying things privately i agree, but even though people KNOW all this with details, they still forget and say this private things. Also to people who are in other countries you have to say it on the phone or open network.

Being abused in this way, iiit is not good we GET USED TO IT.
politicians have to be pressured into NOT DOING THIS.

Peop´le say well I haven't done anything wrong. Well that is not the point, neither have I, but I want privacy, and can't find it.

It is correct, society is not the way for any of us, it only has a rotten path, repetitive.
we are not part of it,society cannot become enlightened.Will never be.

WE will have to communicate through codes and music.

[alice1111]

Hi Chandrakavi,

WOW!

THIS IS ONE BIG SYNCHRONICITY.I have been wondering about what the heck has been going on with my emails. Not on this site, but another. Weird, Weird, stuff. I have been so confused about this that I have stopped sending emails on that site and then finally quit the site.

Why I had not even considered this is amazing to me.

Excuse me for a moment, but this is a real piss-off.

What to do? I have not committed anything illegal. I am not worried about that. It's just that I don't like being used as bait, so-to-speak.

Alice

[chandrakavi]

Hi Chandrakavi,

WOW!

THIS IS ONE BIG SYNCHRONICITY.I have been wondering about what the heck has been going on with my emails. Not on this site, but another. Weird, Weird, stuff. I have been so confused about this that I have stopped sending emails on that site and then finally quit the site.

Why I had not even considered this is amazing to me.

Excuse me for a moment, but this is a real piss-off.

What to do? I have not committed anything illegal. I am not worried about that. It's just that I don't like being used as bait, so-to-speak.

Alice


Hi Alice!

Well it is good that you say it out in the open.
As you well know since 2001, President George W. Bush,
said that e-mails would be intervened to stop "TERRORIST ATTACKS" after 9/11
but after many years people simply forget. So maybe the site you are telliung me is more obvious,but all e-mails are monitored.

"I haven't written or done anything wrong", but in a world with no privacy
and where free speech is a fraud ,what can be expected?
One should have a reminder that one's mails will be read one way or another, but one forgets anyway.

I am sure this site is monitored by all the NSA and others , so it will have to be
an understanding that "inner freedom" we can have, not the outer freedom, society
places chains around everyone's head,
Emotions of fear, hate , jeaulosy and expressions of all are the same energy, only that hey are directed to our perisphery to the circumference ,and not tooward the center. The closer we are to the circumference, the further we are from ourselves.
To meet ourselves again we have to use the same energy, knowing your true nature.
Do not react. Action is fine, reaction is bad because there is a 3rd party involved, making you behave in a certain way, and that is not you.

This is manipulation from the outside, emotion, comes from "motion" meaning movement,
sop emotions are permanently moving and changing, so we have to be in ONENESS.
Therefore in harmony.

Life is a circle, and you will see, how they the recorderers , blocking privacy,
will change teams in time, because their children will pressure them to do so,
and will be sorry to have have participated in all this.

Ways will be found. More natural ones, and loving ones.
after all it is true ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE,
and they have forgotten that.

PM me on anything if you want.

Chandrakavi

[alice1111]

Hi,

I'm on my way to bed, but wanted to get this sent. Talk to you later, but I know everything is monitored. I have just not been here on this site long enough to have any problems with emails. (plus it's easy to forget.) I have read and watched everything David has put out and am now on his new book plus many more. I am a hopeless readaholic.

Do you think our meditations or ability to meditate is being tinkered with? :eek:

Love,

Alice

[chandrakavi]

Hi,

I'm on my way to bed, but wanted to get this sent. Talk to you later, but I know everything is monitored. I have just not been here on this site long enough to have any problems with emails. (plus it's easy to forget.) I have read and watched everything David has put out and am now on his new book plus many more. I am a hopeless readaholic.

Do you think our meditations or ability to meditate is being tinkered with? :eek:

Love,

Alice

Lovely Alice,

I love your avatar, looks like ALICE IN WONDERLAND, I loved that book,
it says a lot.

No, our ability to meditate can not be tinkered. It's the only place they cannot go to.
the inner,so relax. They do know about meditation, but cannot do anything about it, except start doing it themselves, and finally like it. So as far as that, it is ok. It is a way out, a solution.

Sweet dreams,

Chandrakavi

[alice1111]

Hi Chandrakavi,

Well, thank goodness something is safe. I will look more deeply into Osho. I used to have all his books, etc. I do prefer his meditation techniques and his ideas about meditation better than any I have found. Being from the US and having a temporarily messed up leg, if I tried to get into some of the postures, I think, I might be stuck there forever, :D. I am grateful there are other easier positions. But I definitely will do all I can and I CAN because meditation has been more helpful to me in my knowing than anything else and goodness knows, I have tried just about everything. So thanks a million.

Love,

Alice

[chandrakavi]

Hi Chandrakavi,

Well, thank goodness something is safe. I will look more deeply into Osho. I used to have all his books, etc. I do prefer his meditation techniques and his ideas about meditation better than any I have found. Being from the US and having a temporarily messed up leg, if I tried to get into some of the postures, I think, I might be stuck there forever, :D. I am grateful there are other easier positions. But I definitely will do all I can and I CAN because meditation has been more helpful to me in my knowing than anything else and goodness knows, I have tried just about everything. So thanks a million.

Love,

Alice

Hi Alice!!

Try to obtain the following book:
MEDITATION
The First and Last Freedom
A Practical Guide to Meditation
by OSHO


It has 112 meditations, You will enjoy them
best to you,

Also THE ORANGE BOOK (unless you have read both)

Love,

Chandrakavi