Child Pornography

[adbasque]

I was thinking are we all at some point or another be accused of child pornography?

The way I see it, almost everyday there's somebody who's caught with child pornography images on his/her personal computer.

What if there's an organisation or a secret service spreading a virus that can download files without our knowledge and even downloads images while the computer is on and not being used.


On one hand to frame us all so they can take our dna
second, if we have children they can take them away from us
third they can find a good reason to restrict the internet neutrality and take every liberty we have left.

Now, if they are really cracking down on child pornography, right?
Wouldn't it be easier to crack down on the computers that hosts such documents and websites?

There's no such thing as they can't trace them, if a website is online they can trace it to it's doorstep.

So, they are allowing these websites and perhaps most of the websites are theirs.

So which one is the easiest, to control some websites or to crack down on every single user world wide?

You'd think the first one would be less costly and easier to indetify?
So what we are looking at right now, is

Problem, reaction, solution again

Should we worry?

[frase]

Mate you are fucking paranoid.
Not everything is a conspiracy you know.

[joe911]

Mate you are fucking paranoid.
Not everything is a conspiracy you know.

Adbasque actually has a good point. If they are wanting to crack down on it why not go after the sites,takeout the source and also they could get hold of ips of computers that visit these sites and voilla you have a list of people to go after ASWELL as removing the site.
Some people on the list may have stumbled on it by accident,or like the op suggested a virus could do this,Im sure its possible for a programmer to program something to ping a site,but they have powers now to legally remotley monitor your computer so they could easily find those who visit these sites consciousley.

[adbasque]

Mate you are fucking paranoid.
Not everything is a conspiracy you know.

No I am not paranoid mate, I am an IT consultant, and Java programmer with few other languages, I know what can be done.

I am not at all being paranoid, you'll see one day If I am wrong.

Yes mate a enormous conspiracy is lurking over us, if we don't fight back, they are taking our freedoms and liberties bit by bit.

In few months time call me paranoid :)
It's a lot cheaper for them to go after those websites, but the truth is, those websites are ran by them.

Of course the average cop wouldn't know that I am sure, I even discussed it with my brother in law, who is an ex cop and he said it's very possible.

[adbasque]

And one more thing Frase if you think I am being paranoid, than take a look at what microsoft is doing, constantly spying on his users on absolutely everything.

Not just Microsoft Google, and many others.!!
my advice to you mate is check your computer on a ragular basis to see if things haven't been downloaded, I have found several times applications have been installed on my pc, nobody touches it in my house except me.

And I know I didn't download them, don't tell me it's impossible.
Be careful that's all

[joe911]

It's a lot cheaper for them to go after those websites, but the truth is, those websites are ran by them.


Plain clothes officers sometimes stand outside of concerts/shows selling tickets [i cant remember the name of it] but its illegal to buy them this way [apparently] and when people go up to them to buy them they arrest them for buying them.Same kinda thing really.Its certainly a possibility.

[adbasque]

Plain clothes officers sometimes stand outside of concerts/shows selling tickets [i cant remember the name of it] but its illegal to buy them this way [apparently] and when people go up to them to buy them they arrest them for buying them.Same kinda thing really.Its certainly a possibility.

Absolutely! they trick them and then they arrest them, it's like an undercover cop who sells drugs etc..

But at least you can accuse a person who buys, over the internet they frame you, without your knowledge.

That is what's dangerous, because the court has rejected their proposals of removing the internet neutrality, and it's only a question of time before they can find a judge they can either blackmail or threaten.

So in the meantime the more arrests they make, the stronger their case in court would be for the control of the internet.

[Anders Lindman]

Sometimes in porn videos they ask the girls how old they are, and they say they are like 18, 19 years old. That's a bit suspicious. Why do they need to 'prove' the age? With all the GM food and stuff these days, maybe some of the girls in ordinary porn videos are like 12 years old but with fully matured bodies. :eek:

Also, in many mainstream commercials and ads with half-naked women, the models look really young, like children with makeup on.

[rhydra]

If they really want to get you all they have to do is grab your computer, put a load of porn on it and then "oh, look what we just found on your computer you naughty boy, you are nicked sunshine!"

[take it easy]

i spoke to this bloke years ago who was an activist for this that and the other, and he told a story of breaking into someones house and filling their hardrive with child porn and then reporting it.

don't know if it was true, and no i couldn't pick him out in a line up.

[adbasque]

If they really want to get you all they have to do is grab your computer, put a load of porn on it and then "oh, look what we just found on your computer you naughty boy, you are nicked sunshine!"

Yes they can do it, once arrested, they can frame you this way, and I am sure they've already done it.
But, with a good lawyer for example they can hire good IT investigators and find out whether you have downloaded that stuff from the internet or it has been uploaded from a different media.

They can even look at the logs with your ISP, so that way they can be downloaded to you pc, and you are guilty.

[lottie]

I remember once years ago - my computer needed something doing to it so my other half had a friend who was a computer geek and he enabled the guy to be able to 'take over ' the computer from his house- like 20miles away... he did something and suddenly we could see the curser moving over files and opening stuff up etc... i was shocked... so if it could be done like 4years ago with only a few small passwords etc...surely it'd be well easy to takeover now!!

*shudders*

im thinking bout getting rid of the damned thing anyway... its becoming worse than tv, addictive and also so bloody censored these days...

[nirvana]

I believe it can be done and has been done numerous occasions.

[joe911]

I used to have a thing on my phone.A bluetooth hacking app,and i had my brothers phone one day and i gave my phone permission to acess his whenever the 2 were in range.
I had full acess to his phone,i could read his messages/reply to them from my phone.
View everything on his phone,including all his pictures/videos/songs
I could even change the time on the clock if i wanted too.
All that was through bluetooth,and can be done by anyone so it wouldnt surprise me if there was one for wifi devices.

[Ian2day]

I once contacted a computer forensics expert to have some work done to my computer. To recover some lost word files etc. When asked what he would do if he found anything on my computer that shouldn't be there. He replied 'just delete it!'. Wrong answer (you know who you are) moron. Also not one single data recovery 'expert' I contacted would attempt to recover the lost word files in my presence. They always wanted to take my property away with them. I use the term expert losely.

On my current computer I have noticed some strange activity when logged into a website. I really think that they have a zombie network set up using the members hard drives as storage. I contacted my isp with my concerns but never heard anything back from them. I do scans and have a firewall and other measures in place but if the owners of said zombie network know more about computers than me what can I do.

[augur]

I really think that they have a zombie network set up using the members hard drives as storage.

This sort of thing has been going on in the 'cyber crime' world for quite a while:

Botnet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Storm botnet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

edit: misunderstood, I see now you say the activity occurs on a certain website you visit. This is also becoming quite common, many services (particularly online media streaming services) that require you to install their special 'player' application will use your bandwidth to distribute content to other users in a peer-to-peer manner. This usually results in a faster, better experience for the users; but if you happen to install their application and forget about it, they'll be effectively stealing your bandwidth forever :)

[Anders Lindman]

require you to install their special 'player' application

Yeah, I think it's when installing applications it can be dangerous. I doubt that much harm could be done when only using an ordinary web browser, unless there is a security leak in the web browser.

[adbasque]

I remember once years ago - my computer needed something doing to it so my other half had a friend who was a computer geek and he enabled the guy to be able to 'take over ' the computer from his house- like 20miles away... he did something and suddenly we could see the curser moving over files and opening stuff up etc... i was shocked... so if it could be done like 4years ago with only a few small passwords etc...surely it'd be well easy to takeover now!!

*shudders*

im thinking bout getting rid of the damned thing anyway... its becoming worse than tv, addictive and also so bloody censored these days...

Yes he probably used the remote assistance
if you go to start> run> type this in, Sysdm.cpl and then press enter
on the box that opens click on the "Remote Tab" and uncheck
"Allow remote invitation to be sent from thic computer"
it's always good to keep it unchecked, you only check it when you use it.
some hackers could easily exploit it, especially most people know the port
3389

True it is addictive :( but my job requires a pc I can't get away, unless I find some land that I could plow and become a happy farmer, I'd love that.

[Ian2day]

I often would see a password protected file message flash up. This was when I didn't have any password protected files. I've never really got into file sharing so its not one of them. Although I think that 4OD is installed somewhere and ever since then my download speed has been really slow taking an age for pages to load etc.

[jhado]

Anyone here remember the original David Icke web-site?

It had a beautiful poem on there called "Unconditional Love".

A few years ago I wanted that poem for my wife's birthday card,

So I googled it.....talk about horror, the results were just page after page of kiddy-porn :mad:

I've never shut down the pootah so fast in my life.

[supertzar]

Around 2001 I had a PC that got infected with something called "cool links" or something like that. I could not connect to the internet without page after page of some of the most horrible things I have ever seen in my life opening up. Mutilation, abuse - it was awful.

[adbasque]

Around 2001 I had a PC that got infected with something called "cool links" or something like that. I could not connect to the internet without page after page of some of the most horrible things I have ever seen in my life opening up. Mutilation, abuse - it was awful.

They target younger kids, they know that most kids use the internet nowdays, sometimes even more than the grown ups.
So if the computer isn't fully protected, you get all sorts of horrible things popping up, one after another, you close one another one opens up.

And it's usually porn, sex, crimes, you name it it's there, sometimes gambling sites.

[adbasque]

Anyone here remember the original David Icke web-site?

It had a beautiful poem on there called "Unconditional Love".

A few years ago I wanted that poem for my wife's birthday card,

So I googled it.....talk about horror, the results were just page after page of kiddy-porn :mad:

I've never shut down the pootah so fast in my life.

You see how they strike fear into us?
we live in a Psycho times, they are doing everything they can to make us fear them, there was a time where innocent until proven guilty, now, they don't need all that malarkey.

In the US, now you can be interviewed without the presence of your lawyer, I am sure before we know it, it'll be here too.

[jhado]

Here's the poem I was on about,

Unconditional Love

A treasure to be cherished,

A gift from God above;

Is the beauty of a friendship,

Touched by unconditional love.

A love that asks no questions,

Believes in all the best;

Never doubting, ever trusting,

Withstanding any test.

A love that weathers any storm,

And yet that love still stands;

Through the very darkest hour,

It still reaches out a hand.

There in that hand the sweetest gift,

That you can give a friend;

A heart that cares, a love that shares,

That will be there till the end.

A treasure to be cherished,

A gift from God above;

Is what I share with you my friend,

An unconditional love.

[chaste]

Mate you are fucking paranoid.
Not everything is a conspiracy you know.


I'd still sleep a little easier if that pesky Operation Ore misunderstanding were cleared up and if I didn't know that some paedophile rings are more equal than others, no matter how many people know about them.

[void]

I trust the internet security experts are correct when they have said that the only full way to protect your computer is not to have it plugged into an internet connection in the first place. Really, it seems this medium is so full of holes and open to being tampered with unless we are P.C experts ourselves, that if we're really concerned about privacy or being set up, we would do well to stay off the thing or use cyber cafes P.C's which won't ask for registration of details (all internet cafes I used in Italy one year, required my passport details before I could use them. Because of government anti-terror laws, foreigners were not allowed to use them unless details were given to the staff).

Recently a British court ruled the other day that private investigators who (on demand from somebody else) used hi-tech methods to track down the authors of anonymous blogs, were not breaking any privacy laws. In a way, the court was correct in saying that as someone is using a public medium, the privacy demand is a bit odd really. But, it means that the days of anonymous blogging really are truly over now. The link below goes into detail about it, and also mentions how the police now have new created internal laws to stop officers blogging the truth about the Met.

I've kind of gone off topic here, but I think it's somewhat related.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/16/20090617/ttc-bloggers-have-no-right-to-privacy-sa-6315470.html (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/16/20090617/ttc-bloggers-have-no-right-to-privacy-sa-6315470.html)