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devanshoom
19-06-2009, 07:10 AM
If you were writing a book to introduce the new world order to kids of say 12 to 16 years old what format would you use?
I mean like would you try incorperate the whole concept into a fiction story, along the lines of a harry porter type thing....or would you do it as an info based book, which is to say do a chapter on each particular aspect, including photos and diagrams etc, much like icke does in his books, only geared towards kids.
Bottom line is this....In my humble opinion, huge numbers of adults are too soft/lame/apathetic and thus unwilling/unable to get their head around the concept of the agenda. They are just too far gone....and in some cases you may as well talk to a chimp...as you all know it can be frustrating and sometimes you cant help thinking "man fuck it, you all deserve it so fuck the lot of you".
Obviously you cant give up on people, but the upcoming generation may well be where the real resistance lies......from what i can gather there is nothing specifically geared towards educating kids to the agenda and its various forms of manipulation. Im not looking to brainwash anyone here.....but I do say expose kids to various issues and get them asking questions before MTV/disney channel and fluoride fudge their minds beyond repair....
Also...I tend to swear a lot....not cos I want to appear cool but cos its a handy tool to express oneself. Its all very well saying "oh no you cant use swearwords if you want to be taken seriously" but you have to consider the fact kids do swear a lot and have huge attitudes which require lots of swearing, and if you are trying to "connect" with them might be better to talk the way they do rather than sound like some middle aged physics teacher who reads the guardian........or worst still sound like their mum and dad, who they are probably in the process of rebelling against anyway.
yozhik
19-06-2009, 07:22 AM
Interactive.
If you want to "engage" the learning process, then it should be interactive.
Any one familiar with those role playing type books? Where you would be given choices to make and sent to a specific page in the book? Then had to find your way around the maze within the book itself?
I'm sure they have a "generic" name :D ... but its been such a long time since I picked one up.
Biggest issue you face with informing the younger minds is the bombardment of competing media. Everything is so "now, now, now."
BUT ... on the plus side (if there is one) ... the story is so far into the world of fantasy (albeit NOT fantasy, but an unbelievable truth) that in terms of mind boggling escapism ... it provides the perfect source material.
I mean ... you could not make this shit up!!!
Most of it defies belief ... which, while it frustrates the fuck out of you and me, could also prove to be the marketing nugget of gold, when introducing it to inquisitive, "quick fix", entertainment junkies.
cruise4
19-06-2009, 07:26 AM
For a start I wouldn't use a book :D I agree with the premise... kids could spread this information fast and widely if motivated properly. I'd also suggest the gap between 12 and 16 is an added difficulty. Secrets, communications, gangs, not for adults, missions, free stuff, mystery... what else makes school playgrounds tick these days?
And maybe I'm showing how out of touch with kids I am :rolleyes:
yozhik
19-06-2009, 07:27 AM
Just as a thought starter ... what about a 9/11 Interactive game on CD-ROM.
Similar to Microsoft's Flight Simulator ... see if you can fly into building and cause it to collapse.
All of the damage could EASILY be based on scientific data and laws of physics, construction plans, etc, etc
The science is definitely "out there".
I'm not a computer programmer's left testicle ... but I am sure it is very possible.
Maybe by creating a perfectly realistic gaming model, with an impossible scenario ... such as we have been sold as the official story ... rather than force feed the info, the gamers would actually start asking questions about why they can't bring the towers down, as they had been "taught" (programmed) happened on the day.
yozhik
19-06-2009, 07:31 AM
the Da Vinci Code and National Treasure (yes I know - Hollywood ... so sue me) were extremely popular and also form the basis for a pretty wild interactive video game option.
Can you imagine the "Codes of the Illuminati" as a game?
Wild !!! ... the perfect way of introducing the info.
Interactive, informative and a catalyst for further studies.
tracker
19-06-2009, 07:32 AM
If you were writing a book to introduce the new world order to kids of say 12 to 16 years old what format would you use?
I mean like would you try incorperate the whole concept into a fiction story, along the lines of a harry porter type thing....or would you do it as an info based book, which is to say do a chapter on each particular aspect, including photos and diagrams etc, much like icke does in his books, only geared towards kids.
Bottom line is this....In my humble opinion, huge numbers of adults are too soft/lame/apathetic and thus unwilling/unable to get their head around the concept of the agenda. They are just too far gone....and in some cases you may as well talk to a chimp...as you all know it can be frustrating and sometimes you cant help thinking "man fuck it, you all deserve it so fuck the lot of you".
Obviously you cant give up on people, but the upcoming generation may well be where the real resistance lies......from what i can gather there is nothing specifically geared towards educating kids to the agenda and its various forms of manipulation. Im not looking to brainwash anyone here.....but I do say expose kids to various issues and get them asking questions before MTV/disney channel and fluoride fudge their minds beyond repair....
Also...I tend to swear a lot....not cos I want to appear cool but cos its a handy tool to express oneself. Its all very well saying "oh no you cant use swearwords if you want to be taken seriously" but you have to consider the fact kids do swear a lot and have huge attitudes which require lots of swearing, and if you are trying to "connect" with them might be better to talk the way they do rather than sound like some middle aged physics teacher who reads the guardian........or worst still sound like their mum and dad, who they are probably in the process of rebelling against anyway.
you could start off the in a land far far away -- hidden from the rest of the world . the land was full oc lever folks etc etc etc who understood everything . they build a ship type of story and get shipwrecked .
the group of people some how get devided into small groups who all need to concentrate on surviving .
they all think their own way is correct and refuse to listen to others or something like that .
along come some strange beings ) who today we just dont know who they are etc etc )
eventually tribes are created ( countries )
the tribes always fight
then some of the leaders get together ( type thing ) and start their own evil empire because of greed etc ( NWO )
its all there for you
we cant tell you what to write
you have to do it for your self unfortunatly .
but swaring ?
naaaah ?
try humar !
:cool:
yozhik
19-06-2009, 07:42 AM
A video game, similar to Civilisation.
Call it "Chaos".
There are 13 bloodlines they can choose from at the beginning of the game setup.
The goal is to bring "Order" to the planet.
:D
Just imagine all of the shit you could put into the game to screw with them, based on what has actually happened through the ages.
merlincove
19-06-2009, 07:45 AM
i think as an awakening tool you'd need to focus on what can be proved and what is provable fact. Rely on the facts and the whole thing shifts from 'just another conspiracy theorem' to something very tangable.
Anmd yeah i think explaining things in a language the 'target' audience can understand is prime, though effing through it all will digress from the point. Using that language to emphasise a few points will have great impact, but choosing to base the whole format around swearing will leave you enduring a kinda apathetic response, i would say.
The kids of today understand language, and when a point is delivered they will understand it even if there is a lack of swearing and the use of understandable vocab will go a long way to earning you some respect and in turn earning the subjest matter some respect. Swear at every other word and you may label yourself as a nutter and what you are saying may get lost in the storm of all that.
Hitting them with those shocking scenes (that are now acceptable norms in society) from 911, the towers smoking and explaining in simple terms how the official story is a crock of shite.
Show them the tether incident, aliens do exist, it is likeley rpswell did happen, NASA know all about it, why aren't they teling us? - work on that line.
HAARP, discuss how this piece of tech works, show them the tsunami in india and ask whether such was caused by a 'new' stealth weapon.
The gvt, discus how the gvt and it agencies are public limited companies, how the police are plc's, how the councils are plc's and how 'laws' have been created to rule and subjugate us to their will.
It needs to be interactive, as has been said, so they can begin to ask questions rather than having someone bark all the answers at them. And if they ask questions then you'd need to tailor a workshop or talk around that aspect, core examples set out over a coupla hours, a talk and discussion. You'd need to be able to hold up in front of that and have a good working knowledge of the subject matter.
This is something that i have been thinking about doing myself.
intellection
19-06-2009, 10:30 AM
expressing reality as a fantasy via medium such as story books, films and movies is an illuminati tactic. once a concept has been expressed in the fantasy realm then it is generally thought as 'as fantasy'.
imagine trying to discuss a real issue with someone when then counter with 'oh yeah you're talking about (enter movie or book here, the matrix, the da vinci code, thirteenth flooretc.).
the only film(?) i have seen which offers an insight without the fantasy aspect is 'waking life'. otherwise we are treading on thin ice when it comes to delivering a message via such medium.
disclaimer: this is only my opinion.
the itinerant shrubber
19-06-2009, 10:35 AM
Write an allegorical story about it. Thats what The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy was originally about. Zaphod Beeblebrox, the puppet president and his quest to find out who really ran things.
please read and comment
Perhaps approach this from an entirely different angle?
Not directly, as in talking about big bad manipulation and fear mongering, but start from the 'solution' side of things. Perhaps write a book on self sufficiency (bodily, mentally, spiritually) and the rest takes care of itself.
By then, the game is over and the child has won and there is no enemy that can harm them. For all the flak the Scout association gets, the motto - "Be prepared" carries more weight and importants now in 2009 than it ever did.
runciter
19-06-2009, 10:44 AM
Perhaps approach this from an entirely different angle?
Not directly, as in talking about big bad manipulation and fear mongering, but start from the 'solution' side of things. Perhaps write a book on self sufficiency (bodily, mentally, spiritually) and the rest takes care of itself.
By then, the game is over and the child has won and there is no enemy that can harm them. For all the flak the Scout association gets, the motto - "Be prepared" carries more weight and importants now in 2009 than it ever did.
there's no need to teach kids about the nwo, in a few years it will be completely dissolved.
no need to tell them about psychopathic mass murdering paedophiles that want to control everything.
cruise4
19-06-2009, 10:47 AM
"And maybe I'm showing how out of touch with kids I am"
There again looking at the other suggestions, maybe I'm not.
You'd be better off with some well thought out stickers to hand out, or get some packs of 'illuminati' cards to hand out. Get a collecting/swapping scene going on.
You want to reach kids, not bankrupt devanshoom.
Mind you all ideas are good ones, but only sometimes :D
People can waste months and months getting children to learn all about the symbols, and organizational structures, and then what? Children will then be clued up like a lot of people are here, and then they'll likely sit around getting depressed,angry,hopeless,bitter,paranoid, just waiting for the inevitable 'getting worse'. Or, trying pointlessly to challenge goliath head on by yelling "we know what you're up to" with bullhorns at any gathering that looks big.
As mentioned above, my approach would be to come from a totally different angle. Begin with the 'solution', by creating self sufficiency amongst children. Physically, Mentally, Spiritually. Once even the basics are down, they have won by default and there is no fight. Any new world order cannot enslave people who are not slave material in the first place, would anyone agree?
As it stands, plenty of children would be perfect slave material, as the knowledge of our ancestors of how to survive outside of being plugged into a mega mainframe, is almost non existant in their generation and is hardly ever taught to them anymore. They are being taught that the main thing to note about adventure, is that it is RISKY and potentially harmful. They are being taught that they must be wrapped up in cotton wool.
We western adults are bad enough (some countries are better than others on this), but many of our children have been groomed to worship the electrical plugged in system, and they'd be lost without it. I'd say, get them out into the forests. We adults and children could all learn together from going back to basics and reminding ourselves what is important. Then we are no longer fodder for any new world order. Anyway, that is my take on this.
curtaincat
19-06-2009, 02:27 PM
I reckon that one should write it fairytale style, as a poster above said.
And then they can pick and chose whether to believe or not.
Everything is real in our 3D reality, you just have to chose.
Reality is as you see it.
sci-fi is more real than some think. jmho
Use the lizard people concept to start it off, then go from there.
I dunno, damn can't anyone on this forum think for themselves?
Shit, I come up with ideas all the time.
devanshoom
24-06-2009, 06:34 AM
Well I read all the comments and have been thinking...
perhaps something you have to read isnt such a great idea....how many young people can be arsed to read these days? How many adults read?
Cartoons.......this is where its at......Along the lines of salad fingers, monkey dust, south park, or even spitting image in the UK. Macromedia flash cartoons with heavy doses of black humour and loaded with satire and NWO-related situations......this is the way to go.
You can reach a far wider audience, people wont have to buy anything, kids wont have to read anything or use their minds in a way they are not accustomed to....there will be flashing lights and crappy gimmicks andchildish jokes for kids and also more mature laughs for the adults.....messages will be squarely laid down for all the see.
just look at how popular south park is...EVERYONE knows it and has seen a few episodes....i dont think it would be too difficult to do something similar with the agenda as the main focus. The possibilities are boundless.
I have already got macromedia flash program and have signed up for a class covering basic techniques. I managed to learn photoshop and become proficient in about 6 months so i cant see it being too difficult.
is anyone out there pretty good at making animation?
noewhan
24-06-2009, 07:52 AM
If you already have a game... Search for and get the editors / mod creators.
I've seen some out there already. Someone made a mod for Call of Duty 2, and added a few things. Plus there might be one for Mount & Blade. The thing with mods is though, you might not be able to do everything.
But, get this... Why are there no games about World War 1?! If there is, I'd like too see it.
I'd like to create a game, mainly to spread the truth. One day I'd like to make a 3D game, but I'll need to learn more about C++ coding, textured, using maya 7 etc.
I can however get started on a flash game, similar style to Diablo 1.
Who else here has knowledge of and has Flash 8????
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1071361#post1071361
tom bombadil
24-06-2009, 07:57 AM
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