circlemakers.org fact or fiction

[kattmanduu]

Is this group really responsible for all the crop circles made in the UK like they say they are? If so they should be sued for trespass, destruction of property and as a direct threat to the food supply, and for being members of a criminal organization conducted organized premeditated criminal acts.
Is this organization also responsible for those crop circles in foreign nations?
If so it makes them an international criminal organization. Their web site has their confessions to these crimes posted there.
The willful destruction of our food crops is taking food from the mouths of children. Those people who sponsor this and help make the circles are all
equally as guilty as those who organized it. This should also shame the farmers who allowed this hoax to be perpetrated for profit knowingly allowing the global food supply to be shorted much needed food in this time of a global food crisis. These folks are profiting from the deliberate starvation of children globally.

[cartamandua]

I just sent the circle makers the following communication, a copy paste.
I would ask anyon e who give a damn about this hoax to assist it gegtting to the truth to assist by forwarding and posting this wherever you think it relevant or helpful.
I think personally Katt that the GOV can't explain em and they need to be able to and all they have to fight with is money so they pump money into setting up an organization to take responsibility for something they can't explain, either that or the gov IS making them but with technology, not men in boots, in which case the intention is to lead folk astray come 2012. I think it's important to know which scenario is true because the outcome of this battle could depend upon it.
GRTZ,
A.


The mail i sent them:

claiming to be members of a criminal organization huh, global organization? you do realize you claim to be destroying crops during food crisis', trespassing, and destrction of property, also you claim to do these criminal acts in an organized fashion. That makes you prosecutable up to the hghest courts on the planet if need be. You gonna be so tied up in court all of you individually pretty soon, that yous aint gonna have no time left to be makin these circles let alone workin but you didn't already did you because you are sponsored by your well funded global terrorist organization, you have not only admitted it already you have insisted and proven it already.In this case the farmers MUST be complicite and equally guilty. This should be a piece of cake.
LUV,
Me.
I am posting this on websites EVERYWHERE.
food out of the mouths of children with your hi tech toys? Shame on you!!!!!

[jamesc]

Is this group really responsible for all the crop circles made in the UK like they say they are? If so they should be sued for trespass, destruction of property and as a direct threat to the food supply, and for being members of a criminal organization conducted organized premeditated criminal acts.
Is this organization also responsible for those crop circles in foreign nations?
If so it makes them an international criminal organization. Their web site has their confessions to these crimes posted there.
The willful destruction of our food crops is taking food from the mouths of children. Those people who sponsor this and help make the circles are all
equally as guilty as those who organized it. This should also shame the farmers who allowed this hoax to be perpetrated for profit knowingly allowing the global food supply to be shorted much needed food in this time of a global food crisis. These folks are profiting from the deliberate starvation of children globally.



Well if they are responsible for ALL formations and claiming they are , what answers do they have or would they like to explain the formations that contain plant and soil iregularities?Also the hugely complex and complicated designs that even have some experts baffled.This is just not happening in one area or fields, lots of formations are forming or have formed over many fields , so they would need quite a lot of people in various parts of the country and areas of the affected fields. Then there is some formations that have soil and plant samples within the formation showing iregularities ,(some with signs of high microwave heat), Then there is the crops stems that do not break in some formations , very hard to do, try flattening some corn and see if the stems do not break. Was it not the case that in the early days of these formations some people who claimed they were responsible for ALL formations were caught out when they were in one field showing how it was done and the next morning , lots of formations appeared in various other fields , some huge and complex in design and they had no answer for HOW they came about.To me not all formations are not man made or hoaxed , there have been far too many huge and complex designs to warrant every single one having a man-made bar code stamped on them.I agree sue the feckers.:D

[deca]

the more complicated ones are done be microwaves
http://www.ovnis.atfreeweb.com/5_crop_circles.htm
It is likely that these geometric designs are due to the firing of an aerial military microwave cannon, piloted by computer. The arguments supporting this view are as follows:

[farros]

I dont beleive any man made this...

http://www.bethedream.net/images/et-disc-binary.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMn2K-TDIL0&feature=PlayList&p=20BCA014C8776A09&index=0&playnext=1

about 7:40 into that video.. the binary disc is only a part of the message.

[deca]

dude the over 8000 satellites flying over a heads billions spent on "starwars" type weapons and you want to believe aliens made them???
ok what comics are you into?

[chattanova]

I dont beleive any man made this...



Or this, i have never seen anything like this ever :confused:

Bishop Wiltshire back in 1999

http://img39.picoodle.com/img/img39/2/6/18/kennet/f_bishopwilthm_358d7f5.jpg

http://img39.picoodle.com/img/img39/2/6/18/kennet/f_bishopwilthm_065ac0e.jpg

And keep this in mind that was done at night during a heavy rainstorm :eek:

http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/2/6/18/kennet/f_wilthshireem_c4d256b.jpg

[deca]

http://www.ovnis.atfreeweb.com/5_crop_circles.htm
More than 50% of the circles observed in England have appeared during cloudy or rainy weather: the cloud cover would allow the origin of the microwave firing to be hidden. Microwaves are able to pass through clouds and act through falling rain, and they are perhaps less damaging to plants when it is raining.



Certain patterns suggest the use of a rotating beam with variable diameter according to the circles in question [PDCA89 p. 156], which might correspond to either the natural or deliberate dispersion of a maser beam, fired from a high altitude. The diameter is estimated to be less than 30 centimetres at a distance of 20 kilometres.

Why by Computer:


The geometric designs observed today are typical of those one can see on computers: 3D designs, fractal designs… Certain patterns are, mathematically speaking, pretty complex (fig. 5-b).
http://www.ovnis.atfreeweb.com/images/PictosCropEcran.gif

[kingmob]

dude the over 8000 satellites flying over a heads billions spent on "starwars" type weapons and you want to believe aliens made them???
ok what comics are you into?

Roflmao, you really believe these tools are making these circles? That's laughable.

Then fuck it, I am the circle maker, you should come check out my backyard, then you would have no doubts. We have all these satellites and star wars weapons, so why couldn't I and my friend make a bunch of these crop circles.

Its all bullshit. They might have made 2 very simple circles that most people would spot from a mile away, then somebody from the shadow government called them and told them they will pay them 2.50 for taking the claim for these circles, to get the sheeple to dismiss them.

[kingmob]

http://www.ovnis.atfreeweb.com/5_crop_circles.htm

http://www.ovnis.atfreeweb.com/images/PictosCropEcran.gif

So if geometric designs are used, its automatically considered fake? So if geometry is used, then the circles are definitely fake or made by humans? Ever heard of Sacred Geometry in relation to the universe?

How do you even know that this is made by microwave technology? And if it is made by this technology, what does it really prove?

[deca]

So if geometric designs are used, its automatically considered fake? So if geometry is used, then the circles are definitely fake or made by humans? Ever heard of Sacred Geometry in relation to the universe?

How do you even know that this is made by microwave technology? And if it is made by this technology, what does it really prove?

ok what you theory then???

[paolo]

The "circlemakers" are obviously a complete sham.
Given the multidimensional messaging contained within some of the glyphs, I suppose you could posit the people/entities in charge laughing in our face as usual
The whole thing seems more benificent and subtly life -enhancing than that

[bill23]

they make the shit ones alright.

[hagbard_celine]

The Circlemakers' site is for real. They're definitely behind some of the Crop Circles, but not all in my view. I've been in touch with two of them (One briefly joined this forum a few weeks ago:D). The ones I spoke to are not knowing disinformers I think, but this doesn't mean that they're not "useful idiots" whom the Intel Services don't take advantage of. It's clear that they believe their own propaganda! See thier movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgfuUwM4xQQ

The strange thing is, that most of them are paranormal believers and Matthew Williams is a well-known UFOlogist. The regularly encounter UFO's, have missing time and see ghosts and etheric beings in the circles they make at night in the fields. Yet when you tell them some Crop Circles form by non-human means they scoff at you!:rolleyes: Why?:confused: This suggestion we make is no more outlandish than the many other paranormal phenomena they admittedly accept as real.:cool:

[kingmob]

ok what you theory then???

Theory on what? Who makes the circles or how they are made?

And do I really need to have a theory to have an opinion? I take these circles for what they are, an unexplained phenomenon. Do I completely eliminate the possibility that they are human made? No, I don't, but I'd admit that this possibility seems less probable, at least to me in regards to most crop circles

[kattmanduu]

Well folks it seems we lost the question I orginally proposed. I had asked "if these guys are actually responsible for these formations made in the grain fields and found all over the world? Why don't the farmers effected by this just sue this organization for trespass and property damage with a very high settlement of a few million pounds? They have confessed to the crimes on their web site, there is no need for a trial, the judge just has to pass sentence on them." This action would stop this from being done by them after the trial/hearing, bankrupt their organization and we won't see anymore crop circles anywhere. When we see more new crop circles after they have all been put on restriction by the courts to stay away from farm feilds, we will know that they are just a hoax and the crop circles are really made by other forces/beings from another world or diamention, or they are just a government organization doing this deliberately to mess with peoples minds and distract everyone from what criminal acts the government is really doing while we are looking at the crop circles.

[islamvslizards]

i dont think they made the crop circles, the only ones they admit to are rubbish, like the greenpeace one and the shredded wheat one.

if you notice they dont actually admit to making the others, they just describe them.

[harris999]

looking at the site they seem to make them for publicity services.

They recreate thier own crop circles, but they dont claim all of them. They say crop circles "appear" in the fields, if u look at the gallery.

I think thier just copying whoever makes the real crop circles, trying to recreate them for publicity. And thier open about it too.

[romas]

looking at the site they seem to make them for publicity services.

They recreate thier own crop circles, but they dont claim all of them. They say crop circles "appear" in the fields, if u look at the gallery.

I think thier just copying whoever makes the real crop circles, trying to recreate them for publicity. And thier open about it too.




Agree, people can make pretty good circles, but they still do look like man made, some of those things out there are not manually made and I can't see any point for any military machinery to be used in this way either.

[kingmob]

Agree, people can make pretty good circles, but they still do look like man made, some of those things out there are not manually made and I can't see any point for any military machinery to be used in this way either.

Exactly. Plus, crop circle phenomenon has been known about for quite a long time, probably going back a few centuries. What reasons would the military have for making crop circles?

[deca]

yeah whats the point of bluebeam, harts and mind and psychological warfare , alien dis information ????? I can`t see why the military government agency would what to spread that ether :rolleyes:

how many of you have read watch the men that stare at goats???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Men_Who_Stare_at_Goats
The Men Who Stare at Goats is a 2004 non-fiction book by Jon Ronson about the U.S. Army's exploration of New Age concepts and the potential military applications of the paranormal. The title refers to attempts to kill goats by staring at them.

can`t they zap one of these crop circles up in a couple of seconds anyway???

[romas]

Thank for the link.

But like kingmob said cropcircles predate modern military/technology. Bluebeam myth is backed by nothing but internet website, MJ12 has more credibility with that supposedly fake, leaked document, I see no reason to jump to that conclusion.

Movies prove nothing, books are not all trut worthy either. I don't know about new age, but I can tell you for certain US military has far bigger interest to continue to mystify and make it self look super advanced to scare the rest of the world make everyone and comply with Wall st. and Washington DC. rules of the game.