I am joining a new religion

[king]

FAAK this conspiracy crap

i am joining Raelian movement

Rael has got it made:

the Chief Executive Officer of Clonaid—play a powerful role in the Raëlian Church. There are two major groups of women in the Raëlian Church.

The Order of Angels—founded in the 1990s—consists of over a hundred Raëlian women who call for femininity and refinement for all of humanity.[27][28] The initiation rites include declaring an oath or making a contract in which one agrees to become defender of the Raëlian ideology and its founder Raël.[29][11] The Order of Angels has its own hierarchy of rose angels and white angels which—as of 2003—are six and one hundred sixty women, respectively.[3] After the Clonaid human cloning claim made the headlines, the Daily Telegraph wrote that members of the order not only provide sexual pleasure for Raël, but also help donate eggs for efforts towards human cloning.[30] A few days later, Time magazine wrote that French chemist Brigitte Boisselier is an Order of Angels member
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4f/Brigitte_Boisselier.jpg
Brigitte Boisselier


[31] ... Mike Kropveld called the Order of Angels "one of the most transparent movements" he had ever witnessed, however, he was alarmed by the women's commitment to defend Raël's life with their own bodies.[11]


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bb/Ra%C3%ABlian_Women_at_the_Seoul%2C_Korea_Love_Hug_ Festival.jpg

can you imagine yourself as a leader of a church and women like this nice lady would die on top of you, protecting you of course!?

Raëlism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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[lemonique]

Ha Ha!! Whatever toots your hooter King!!
To be brutally honest some of the ladies look a bit suss :D especially the blonde lady.
Good luck with your new venture....
:D:D

[legaata]

I believe it is possible that the message allegedly given by an extraterrestial to the leader of the Raelian movement could be true. But standard is - unfortunely - that all such and other similar movements sooner or later goes wrong, and the leader transforms, perhaps starts with drugs, and the movement becomes more and more authorative. Many sects end up with mass suicide.

I think that the belief system of the raelian movement is sound and logical, at least when it comes to their view of the creation of all living things. But fact remains. Many sects are branches of the illuminati, and those which aren't, are soon to be infiltrated. They are then designed to attract certain kind of people, by radiating a certain vibration. When these people have been lured into the net, they are being terminated. This is what happended to a very famous swedish musician, Ted Gärdestad, who joined the Bhagwan Movement. After five years with the sect, his mental condition had deteriorated, and he soon committed suicide, throwing himself before a train.

[ashyr]

ahhah its all leeching of energys. very simple methodology really.
just watch out for the same usuals and pitfals you get with all religions though. lol

just wait for the "you can get our book for $3.99" or "Fee's need to be paid by monday please"

speaking of tooting hooters lol that bird on the top foto's got a pair. they are almost falling out of her top.

[limelady]

ahhah its all leeching of energys. very simple methodology really.
just watch out for the same usuals and pitfals you get with all religions though. lol

just wait for the "you can get our book for $3.99" or "Fee's need to be paid by monday please"

speaking of tooting hooters lol that bird on the top foto's got a pair. they are almost falling out of her top.

Yikes...are we even sure that's a woman? :eek: She has rather masculine features.....and those 'hooters' look larger than life to me ;)

LL

[terminus_est]

Or are you serious? Because if you are then I'm going to have to advise this to you.

Stay

Away

From

This

Cult.


And I'm speaking from personal experience with researching these people. You know, back in 2003 before I got into conspiracy, I was very interested in these Raelians and even talked with a few of them in a Yahoo group that they used to have at that time. For a while, I felt like I was starting to see the truth and I even considered secretly converting to Raelism. But sometime later I also discovered an anti-Raelian Yahoo group in which there was a certain number of people who have been researching the cult(even a few ex-Raelians) and my curiosity has been getting me to frequent that place as well. I think I also had an intuitive feeling that these anti-Raelians were somehow right but for a while I was in denial of that intuition as well as of what those people were saying. The most vocal member of that group was this man named Iggy who himself was a known science buff and futurist and among all things, was very interested in the Raelians. Iggy even claimed that he has sent 1 million $ to Clonaid, the human cloning company that has ties to the movement, so they could clone him, but his wishes were never fulfilled. But when I read alot of Iggy's messages as well as those of the ex-Raelians and other anti-Raelians in the group, my intuition eventually caught up and I came to the conclusion that Rael, his cult, and Clonaid, are all frauds and that the movement brainwashes people according to those sensible people who had experiences within the cult.

And yes this little movement may appear to have a certain little charm to it, as I have observed when I was being introduced to it, but besides being a fraudulent brainwashing cult through and through, that's not all. Raelism is 100% compliant with the Illuminati/Masonic NWO agenda. There's even evidence that suggests that Rael himself may be a closet high-ranking Mason.

Intent/King, you really need to read this page to inform yourself.
http://www.geocities.com/endtimedeception/rael.htm

I mean FFS, come on man, seriously, how can you be so gullible?!

[smoking oceanus]

Ive read some of Raels books. There are too many flaws in it especially when he compares his philosophy to Buddhism. The thing that i find most dodgy in the Raelian movement is the whole "Raelian Angel" thing - If your hot, you can become a Raelian Angel and perform sexual services to Rael.

Ive also interacted with Raelians, i guess they seem generally nice. Interestingly, some of them acually agree with David Icke regarding the Illuminati and other conspiracies.

terminst est. Im also aware of Iggy and the Anti-Raelian group as well. I remember he had interesting debates with a Raelian from Japan. Jiro, i think.
There was also a former member of The Raelian group who joined Iggy and claimed that Rael tried to sue her of something because she 'questioned' them.

[Anders Lindman]

FAAK this conspiracy crap

i am joining Raelian movement


:eek:

Fine, whatever, just make sure they are not a cult:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1423349163169488744

[eternal_spirit]

LOL me think you are having us on king ;)

Ra = Sun God reborn Amen Ra?= cloning genetic engineering
alien ? rael claims to have had an alien appear to him years ago who he says has influenced his work on cloning.

I'd say he is Illuminati or controlled by them. One of his theories is to up load the human conciousness ( soul ) onto a computer, then that could could be downloaded into a new cloned human body, this is in line with the brotherhoods plans to merge humans with computers.

The fake blonde haired Japanese woman looks like a characteur of Marilyn Monroe to me.

[hagbard_celine]

Believe whatever you wish to believe, King. But I will not be joining you. The Raelian religion is bollocks, in my view.

Why on Earth would aliens need an embassy in Jerusalem with a swimming pool? Are they really hanging around in space waiting for us to build it before coming in to land?:confused: How come the alien " His Holiness Rael" met is called by a mistranslated biblical name? How come other contactees don't meet these aliens? Other close encounters of the 3rd kind, according to Hynek's classification, are toally different.

[king]

FFS people -- my post was a tongue in cheek, pointing out how easy is to make people believe in some crap just if you package it right.
Just tell them what they want to hear and their guards will be down, and then.... you reel them in.

rest assured, i am not considering joining any cult, any religion, any leader... except religion of following my own spirit, listening to my own intuition and applying some common sense.
although those oriental ladies look very nice, i am not sure what is in their heads, that is, if they would die protecting their leader they could do other things that aren't exactly common sense.

a cult is a cult, no matter how beautiful followers are.

I mean, just look at Rael posing in front of that UFO and tell me if this is not hilarious image representing a leader of cult-mind.

http://www.rael.org/




I believe it is possible that the message allegedly given by an extraterrestial to the leader of the Raelian movement could be true. But standard is - unfortunely - that all such and other similar movements sooner or later goes wrong, and the leader transforms, perhaps starts with drugs, and the movement becomes more and more authorative. Many sects end up with mass suicide.

I think that the belief system of the raelian movement is sound and logical, at least when it comes to their view of the creation of all living things. But fact remains. Many sects are branches of the illuminati, and those which aren't, are soon to be infiltrated. They are then designed to attract certain kind of people, by radiating a certain vibration. When these people have been lured into the net, they are being terminated. This is what happended to a very famous swedish musician, Ted Gärdestad, who joined the Bhagwan Movement. After five years with the sect, his mental condition had deteriorated, and he soon committed suicide, throwing himself before a train.


that was nicely put -- my sentiments exactly.
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BTW, some of you people need to lighten up ;-)

[king]

[QUOTE=terminus_est;86945]Or are you serious? Because if you are then I'm going to have to advise this to you.

Stay

Away

From

This

Cult.


And I'm speaking from personal experience with researching these people. You know, back in 2003 before I got into conspiracy, I was very interested in these Raelians and even talked with a few of them in a Yahoo group that they used to have at that time. For a while, I felt like I was starting to see the truth and I even considered secretly converting to Raelism. But sometime later I also discovered an anti-Raelian Yahoo group in which there was a certain number of people who have been researching the cult(even a few ex-Raelians) and my curiosity has been getting me to frequent that place as well. I think I also had an intuitive feeling that these anti-Raelians were somehow right but for a while I was in denial of that intuition as well as of what those people were saying. The most vocal member of that group was this man named Iggy who himself was a known science buff and futurist and among all things, was very interested in the Raelians. Iggy even claimed that he has sent 1 million $ to Clonaid, the human cloning company that has ties to the movement, so they could clone him, but his wishes were never fulfilled. But when I read alot of Iggy's messages as well as those of the ex-Raelians and other anti-Raelians in the group, my intuition eventually caught up and I came to the conclusion that Rael, his cult, and Clonaid, are all frauds and that the movement brainwashes people according to those sensible people who had experiences within the cult.

interesting, but not surprising.

And yes this little movement may appear to have a certain little charm to it, as I have observed when I was being introduced to it, but besides being a fraudulent brainwashing cult through and through, that's not all. Raelism is 100% compliant with the Illuminati/Masonic NWO agenda. There's even evidence that suggests that Rael himself may be a closet high-ranking Mason.
actually, I am well aware of that. I connected the dots with masonic New Age symbolism, Blavatski, pushing of cloning agenda, free sex agenda, Illuminati simbolizm, even his hindu-like white robe.
Not to mention that movement is pushing New World Order.
the onlything I am not sure of is the answer on question?
Is Rael just a dupe or is he an illuminati "agentur"?


Intent/King, you really need to read this page to inform yourself.
http://www.geocities.com/endtimedeception/rael.htm

i will check it out.

I mean FFS, come on man, seriously, how can you be so gullible?!

dude, you should know me by now. I was always against following anyone, no matter who they are.
The way i see it, the moment you start following someone-- you become blind.
:D

[terminus_est]

:) Thanks for clearing things up for us King. I am very familiar with your good mentality of following your own intuition and reasoning, but since you didn't give any indicators that your initial post was sarcasm, I ended up being 50/50 on what your stance towards the Raelians was.

[terminus_est]

Ive read some of Raels books. There are too many flaws in it especially when he compares his philosophy to Buddhism. The thing that i find most dodgy in the Raelian movement is the whole "Raelian Angel" thing - If your hot, you can become a Raelian Angel and perform sexual services to Rael.

Ive also interacted with Raelians, i guess they seem generally nice. Interestingly, some of them acually agree with David Icke regarding the Illuminati and other conspiracies.

terminst est. Im also aware of Iggy and the Anti-Raelian group as well. I remember he had interesting debates with a Raelian from Japan. Jiro, i think.
There was also a former member of The Raelian group who joined Iggy and claimed that Rael tried to sue her of something because she 'questioned' them.

Yeah I remember Jiro. He was like the big brains of that Raelian group and I talked to him many times about the movement, what they believe, how they see the universe, etc. I really was getting indoctrinated at that time.

I also remember that woman who joined Iggy. I also observed that those Raelians, preaching love, tolerance, etc. kept shrugging off those who expose them. That's the reason Revanto, the guy who ran their Yahoo group, shut down the group. He was fed up with banning and blocking everyone, including every smurf of Iggy, who came in to question the Raelian beliefs.

BTW, Raelians also believe that Lucifer and Satan are good aliens on the same side as Yahweh. Sitchin is also a favorite of Raelians.

[i_am]

FFS people -- my post was a tongue in cheek, pointing out how easy is to make people believe in some crap just if you package it right.

BTW, some of you people need to lighten up ;-)

My sentiments too, King. It cracked me up anyway :D:D