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real6
17-06-2009, 07:34 PM
Government Readies Schools As Mass Vaccination Clinics

http://www.prisonplanet.com/government-readies-schools-as-mass-vaccination-clinics.html

Nationwide vaccination programs expected to be instituted this fall following WHO declaration of swine flu pandemic status

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Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Wednesday, June 17, 2009

The government is telling schools across the country to prepare to be used as clinics for mass vaccination programs set to be instituted later this year, according to an Associated Press report.

Schoolchildren are being targeted as the first recipients of a swine flu vaccine currently being developed, despite the fact that swine flu has proven far less lethal than originally feared, killing just 160 people worldwide, a figure dwarfed by the number of people who die annually from the regular flu virus.

The World Health Organization increased the hysteria surrounding swine flu last week, raising their alert status to level 6, indicating a global pandemic was underway.

“Schoolchildren could be first in line for swine flu vaccine this fall — and schools are being put on notice that they might even be turned into shot clinics,” states the report.

“Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said Tuesday she is urging school superintendents around the country to spend the summer preparing for that possibility, if the government goes ahead with mass vaccinations.”

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The last such mass vaccination program to combat swine flu in 1976 resulted in dozens of deaths and hundreds of injuries, after the Ford administration attempted to use the infection of soldiers at Fort Dix as a pretext for a mass vaccination of the entire country.

Americans have been psychologically conditioned by the mass media to accept the inevitability of enforced mass vaccination campaigns for years. The latest such example appeared in Time Magazine six weeks ago, where it was mooted that officials would be forced to “institute draconian measures to combat the disease,” measures which would include mandatory mass vaccination programs.

Some schools are already working with the government to run mass vaccination drills.

Eleven schools in Alaska recently participated in an exercise focused around dispensing mass vaccinations in the event of an outbreak.

gods sun
17-06-2009, 08:29 PM
a ha see me in my superhero uniform actually ither a psycotic mime trying to destory supplies or assasin creed style lol waa!! KABLAA!!!

down with you needles!!!

Up with arms!!

save the generation!!

call2571
17-06-2009, 11:15 PM
“Schoolchildren could be first in line for swine flu vaccine this fall — and schools are being put on notice that they might even be turned into shot clinics,” states the report.


Just like Brian Gerrish said they would.
This is getting serious.

pipsicle
13-07-2009, 07:47 PM
May I put in a request for this thread to be stickied?

golden lady
13-07-2009, 08:01 PM
I work in a sch here in dorset. As soon as I hear any news on vacination I'll let you guys know.
The school nurse did say to me she would be back in the autumn for vacinations, I thought she was talking about the cervical cancer vacs but just wondering if she was meaning swine flu vacs instead:eek:
I'll also be watching goverment info sites for schools closely.

Love and peace Golden

beldazar
13-07-2009, 09:16 PM
Thankyou Goldenlady, we need to be prepared for this.

Welcome to the forum! :)

real6
13-07-2009, 09:36 PM
May I put in a request for this thread to be stickied?

Be my guest...

golden lady
13-07-2009, 10:07 PM
Thanks for the welcome Beldazar. It's nice to be here.:)
Most schools around me have cases with swine flu. It is longer policy to close. "as it has gone beyond containement". I have been sent medical supply brochures advising to get plenty of supplies in ie hand wash/tissues etc before supplies run out.
A friend at the docs saw an oldish chap arrive saying his wife in the car outside was unwell and could they see her. They masked up and assessed them both in the car park. Fear mongering?? It certainly worried my friend.
I'm personnally in two minds, although I really don't want to be vacinated I do wonder if many poeple will be, if not forced, scared into it. My own daughter has a serious underlying condition which could possibly make her more prone. What to advise? As I say I'm currently in two minds.
Love and peace
Golden

beldazar
13-07-2009, 10:17 PM
Thanks for the welcome Beldazar. It's nice to be here.:)
Most schools around me have cases with swine flu. It is longer policy to close. "as it has gone beyond containement". I have been sent medical supply brochures advising to get plenty of supplies in ie hand wash/tissues etc before supplies run out.
A friend at the docs saw an oldish chap arrive saying his wife in the car outside was unwell and could they see her. They masked up and assessed them both in the car park. Fear mongering?? It certainly worried my friend.
I'm personnally in two minds, although I really don't want to be vacinated I do wonder if many poeple will be, if not forced, scared into it. My own daughter has a serious underlying condition which could possibly make her more prone. What to advise? As I say I'm currently in two minds.
Love and peace
Golden

Hey no worries Golden lady, there are several methods for getting the poisons out of your system.
Basically a diet of raw organic veggies and lemon juice apparently, perhaps there will be a sticky on the subject nearer the time..

Heres what I found on Naturalnews.com...
NaturalNews Tip of the day:

If you ever find yourself forced to take a vaccine injection (if the health authorities force mandatory vaccinations at gunpoint, for example), you can help protect yourself by loading up on microalgae (spirulina, astaxanthin, chlorella), superfoods and raw vegetables juices for 14 days before your vaccine injection. Vaccines are most likely to harm those who are nutritionally deficient.

I subscribe to two natural health magazines, they are both free

http://www.drmercola.com/

http://www.naturalnews.com/

Both are very informative ;)

the reason they dont close the schools is 1) its all a load of bull and 2) they dont want the children to break from their 'programming' :rolleyes:

radford
13-07-2009, 10:18 PM
Thanks for the welcome Beldazar. It's nice to be here.:)
Most schools around me have cases with swine flu. It is longer policy to close. "as it has gone beyond containement". I have been sent medical supply brochures advising to get plenty of supplies in ie hand wash/tissues etc before supplies run out.
A friend at the docs saw an oldish chap arrive saying his wife in the car outside was unwell and could they see her. They masked up and assessed them both in the car park. Fear mongering?? It certainly worried my friend.
I'm personnally in two minds, although I really don't want to be vacinated I do wonder if many poeple will be, if not forced, scared into it. My own daughter has a serious underlying condition which could possibly make her more prone. What to advise? As I say I'm currently in two minds.
Love and peace
Golden

Welcome.

Tough choice. For anyone without an underlying health problem the answer is obviously NO - because the Swine Flu is a very weak disease. My GP always told me "dont get treatment if you dont need it" and that going to hospital is very dangerous because of infections. Vaccines and operations should be for the last resort.

If it was my daughter and the Swine Flu became more dangerous then I would keep her at home rather than vaccinate or anything else ! Especially if I lived somewhere where she could almost be kept away from the disease.

On here those of us who dont get the vaccine should continue posting IF those who get the vaccine start to die - sad to say this whole thing does not feel at all right. I dont believe the flu will kill us at all if we are healthy.

wise haven
14-07-2009, 08:33 PM
Thanks real6

Hello and welcome aboard Golden Lady.

Thanks for the offer of Heads-up if anything starts :)

wise haven
14-07-2009, 08:40 PM
Apparently swine flu has manifested in a couple of schools in the FOD (Forest of Dean)

Considering the hyping of the dangers in the media - there seems to be a very lacksadasical attitude when swine flu appears.

The logical conclusion is that administering the vaccine is more important than controlling the spread.

That speaks volumes to me.....

beldazar
14-07-2009, 10:09 PM
The logical conclusion is that administering the vaccine is more important than controlling the spread.

That speaks volumes to me.....

Exactly! Well said!

size_of_light
14-07-2009, 10:15 PM
Exactly! Well said!

Spot on.

And I'm finding it easier and easier to explain this to people in a logical step-by-step manner until they form that conclusion too.

dangermouse
14-07-2009, 10:32 PM
Apparently swine flu has manifested in a couple of schools in the FOD (Forest of Dean)

Considering the hyping of the dangers in the media - there seems to be a very lacksadasical attitude when swine flu appears.

The logical conclusion is that administering the vaccine is more important than controlling the spread.

That speaks volumes to me.....

yeah like in ireland where there were only 100 cases the government announced that they could no longer contain it :rolleyes: and that preparing vaccinations was the way to deal with it .. 100 cases that hard to contain imho

bicycle
15-07-2009, 12:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4dhg6MG6wI

yozhik
15-07-2009, 09:10 AM
Apparently swine flu has manifested in a couple of schools in the FOD (Forest of Dean)

Considering the hyping of the dangers in the media - there seems to be a very lacksadasical attitude when swine flu appears.

The logical conclusion is that administering the vaccine is more important than controlling the spread.

That speaks volumes to me.....

Has it truly manifested?
Or is that just more hype we're expected to react to?
More government sponsored terrorism?

Or has a virus with flu like symptoms, been clinically recorded as Swine Flu?
Have there been any laboratory tests to confirm the diagnosis of Swine Flu?

Does it not strike people as "strange" that, despite being elevated to pandemic status by WHO and mass vaccinations being marketed, plus the constant terrorism campaign by the fraudulent governments and their equally corrupt agencies, that there is NO LABORATORY CONFIRMATION being carried out for this alleged Swine Flu?

Surely ... SURELY ... common sense would dictate that IF there was a life threatening pandemic, laboratory tests would be critical, to map the TRUE rate of spread, rate of mutation, characteristics and lifespan of the virus?

Would you not think that would be essential to truly combating the "pandemic" ... to acquire, store, analyse and review, as much relevant and current data as possible?

So why, under the heading of "disease management", have their been decisions made to now only ... ONLY clinically diagnose Swine Flu ... and to suspend laboratory confirmations?

That is totally illogical.

wise haven
15-07-2009, 09:55 AM
Has it truly manifested?
Or is that just more hype we're expected to react to?
More government sponsored terrorism?

Or has a virus with flu like symptoms, been clinically recorded as Swine Flu?
Have there been any laboratory tests to confirm the diagnosis of Swine Flu?

Does it not strike people as "strange" that, despite being elevated to pandemic status by WHO and mass vaccinations being marketed, plus the constant terrorism campaign by the fraudulent governments and their equally corrupt agencies, that there is NO LABORATORY CONFIRMATION being carried out for this alleged Swine Flu?

Surely ... SURELY ... common sense would dictate that IF there was a life threatening pandemic, laboratory tests would be critical, to map the TRUE rate of spread, rate of mutation, characteristics and lifespan of the virus?

Would you not think that would be essential to truly combating the "pandemic" ... to acquire, store, analyse and review, as much relevant and current data as possible?

So why, under the heading of "disease management", have their been decisions made to now only ... ONLY clinically diagnose Swine Flu ... and to suspend laboratory confirmations?

That is totally illogical.

Oh Yoz - Much too logical for our governments.

Their actions betray their true motives. Like I have said - If Swine flu is such a danger why have they done nothing apart from rushing a vaccine into production and circulation.
There would have been serious mapping and quarantines to try and slow the spread.
As you say LABORATORY CONFIRMATION - Why have they stopped confirming or testing people who present with the symptoms.

Truth is most people who think they have had flu probably had summer colds or variations on seasonal flu.
By not getting Lab analysis they can hype up the figures.

This is all about the vaccine......they really want us to have it for some reason.

Earlier this year 72Kilograms of seasonal flu vaccine "accidentally" mixed with Bird flu virus was very nearly distributed by Baxter.

That incident has something to do with this whole plan - but apart from the Big Pharma "Cash Cow" angle.....I am stumped:(

gilly
15-07-2009, 10:22 AM
I noted on another thread on this subject, that yesterday my daughter, who's doing her work experience excercise at a local junior school, told me the school had received a letter from a parent, advising them that their child has swine flu.

michellebrouse
15-07-2009, 10:41 AM
I am so thankful that I have the ability to homeschool my children.

One of the reasons my 7 year old got pulled out after "preschool" was BECAUSE of CONSTANT illnesses. Schools are total breeding grounds for nothing but germs, then lets make them into vaccination houses to add in right on top of that.

Unreal.

My poor youngest got EVERYTHING the oldest brought home. Poor kid didn't even get to have his second birthday party - because both kids were sick AGAIN.

I am so sad that I got both of them vaccinated, when I cried every single time KNOWING that something was seriously WRONG with that. I felt it in my bones. I asked a lot of questions, and was told "Well, you sit with a child in the hospital that has one of these diseases, and you'll know why you need to vaccinate" basically.

This was when I started to question it, and started to "refuse" vaccinations from the pediatricians.

I even had one doc tell me, "well, if you even get just the FIRST round of the flu shot, I won't make him have the second round - but he's HIGH risk due to the asthma, so you really need to have at least the first flu shot."

Yah, he "won't make him" get the second shot. Make him my ass.

And here's what else I heard... "Well, since he's already being vaccinated with his school shots (my oldest was 5 at the time) it'll be easier on him to just get the flu shot now."

God I can't believe what I fell for. How STUPID I was. How I TRUSTED those doctors.

My oldest has been vaccinated to age 5 - and has not had a needle touch him since. My oldest got jabbed until he was 2, and he will NOT be jabbed again. I don't care what kind of fear mongering they throw at me.

The worst part is, that my boys, ages 7 and 4 now - have already had the damage done. I wasn't smart enough back then. I had FEELINGS that I didn't listen to. For that - they will pay later, I'm sure.

Unless I can find some safe ways of naturally cleaning out all the gunk from those vaccines out of their systems - so if anyone has links for how to clear the vaccination crap out of young kids - let me know.

I tell EVERYONE not to get flu shots in my family, and they don't listen. My dad gets one every year. My mom gets them. I tell them why they shouldn't but the fear gets to them.

My children, husband and I - DO NOT EVER take flu shots. Matter of fact, I'm also down on the tetnus and any other shot they try to bring along. Yeah, force me at gunpoint - but left to choice? My children will never again have a vaccination of any kind.

They won't be pumping their poison into my youngest at 5 like they did my oldest. And the oldest will be getting NO updated vaccines.

They use Public SCHOOLS so much it makes me sick. Freakin government ran "daycares" for children - since both parents have to work - ya know. Free babysitting while supposedly getting some kind of education.

Well, I'm probably preaching to the choir here - but - those hell holes they call PUBLIC SCHOOLS are really nothing more than brainwashing centers. Teach them kids the RULES, confuse the crap out of them, take out God and any FAMILY values, and prepare them from day one to put up with Illuminati bullshit.

No thanks. I'll pass.

Don't need anyone to teach my kids how to read, write and do math.

With that, time to go think BETTER THOUGHTS! :)

Thanks!
Michelle

beldazar
15-07-2009, 10:51 AM
Unless I can find some safe ways of naturally cleaning out all the gunk from those vaccines out of their systems - so if anyone has links for how to clear the vaccination crap out of young kids - let me know.I tell EVERYONE not to get flu shots in my family, and they don't listen. My dad gets one every year. My mom gets them. I tell them why they shouldn't but the fear gets to them.

My children, husband and I - DO NOT EVER take flu shots. Matter of fact, I'm also down on the tetnus and any other shot they try to bring along. Yeah, force me at gunpoint - but left to choice? My children will never again have a vaccination of any kind.

They won't be pumping their poison into my youngest at 5 like they did my oldest. And the oldest will be getting NO updated vaccines.

They use Public SCHOOLS so much it makes me sick. Freakin government ran "daycares" for children - since both parents have to work - ya know. Free babysitting while supposedly getting some kind of education.

Well, I'm probably preaching to the choir here - but - those hell holes they call PUBLIC SCHOOLS are really nothing more than brainwashing centers. Teach them kids the RULES, confuse the crap out of them, take out God and any FAMILY values, and prepare them from day one to put up with Illuminati bullshit.

No thanks. I'll pass.

Don't need anyone to teach my kids how to read, write and do math.

With that, time to go think BETTER THOUGHTS! :)

Thanks!
Michelle

hi michelle, try these two health magazines, free subscription, you will find what you are looking for :)

http://www.mercola.com/

http://www.naturalnews.com/

you may be a bit dismayed at the amount of deliberate poisonig but dont stress out about it,we are tougher than they think ;)

strengthofknowledge
15-07-2009, 02:55 PM
Get out there and ask questions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
theres 4 large schools around my area, im going to every single one whenever i can and getting in touch with the Head Superint. and talking to them about this. TRY to convince them to NOT let it happen, or if it is to happen, atleast give many people a heads-up on Dates. so GO ASK QUESTIONS, quit talkin about it!

gilly
15-07-2009, 03:16 PM
I've still not had my calls returned by the heads of my childrens' schools, but I've just rung the secondary school again and got through to the school manager (whom I never knew existed).

He advised me that they would need to have signed consent before they could administer any vaccination.

I've instructed him to put on record that I categorically forbid them to give my daughter any form of treatment for swine flu at any time, incase the government decide to instruct them at some point that they can go ahead without consent.

beldazar
15-07-2009, 03:22 PM
I've still not had my calls returned by the heads of my childrens' schools, but I've just rung the secondary school again and got through to the school manager (whom I never knew existed).

He advised me that they would need to have signed consent before they could administer any vaccination.

I've instructed him to put on record that I categorically forbid them to give my daughter any form of treatment for swine flu at any time, incase the government decide to instruct them at some point that they can go ahead without consent.

nice one gilly, I will be doing the same nearer the time, we are a bit backward down here, (luckily!!!) :D

musics
15-07-2009, 03:26 PM
Has it truly manifested?
Or is that just more hype we're expected to react to?
More government sponsored terrorism?

Or has a virus with flu like symptoms, been clinically recorded as Swine Flu?
Have there been any laboratory tests to confirm the diagnosis of Swine Flu?

Does it not strike people as "strange" that, despite being elevated to pandemic status by WHO and mass vaccinations being marketed, plus the constant terrorism campaign by the fraudulent governments and their equally corrupt agencies, that there is NO LABORATORY CONFIRMATION being carried out for this alleged Swine Flu?

Surely ... SURELY ... common sense would dictate that IF there was a life threatening pandemic, laboratory tests would be critical, to map the TRUE rate of spread, rate of mutation, characteristics and lifespan of the virus?

Would you not think that would be essential to truly combating the "pandemic" ... to acquire, store, analyse and review, as much relevant and current data as possible?

So why, under the heading of "disease management", have their been decisions made to now only ... ONLY clinically diagnose Swine Flu ... and to suspend laboratory confirmations?

That is totally illogical.

Exactly, I wish everyone could see and understand this, it's simple really.

real6
15-07-2009, 05:17 PM
Thanks real6

Hello and welcome aboard Golden Lady.

Thanks for the offer of Heads-up if anything starts :)

Anytime friend

gilly
15-07-2009, 06:25 PM
There's now a case of swine flu at my daughter's school. She's not there due to work experience, but a mum at my son's junior school is a dinner lady at her school.

While we were waiting for the kids to come out, she was telling me and some others, & was in a bit of a flap, saying she was thinking of keeping her lad at home.

It gave me an opportunity to talk about the danger of the vaccines, and where I've tried this with this group of women before, and found them to be desperate to get back to their chat about hairdressers etc - but this time, a little crowd gathered to listen.

I've told them about Baxter's recent vaccine contamination, & told them to google it, and also about the connection between Tamiflu / aspartamine / Rumsfeld (& Reagan). They were definately interested this time, and were asking things like how to combat it if they could avoid the Tamiflu & vaccine.

I think people can more easily be persuaded to look into it themselves, now that they're frightened that danger's close.

pipsicle
15-07-2009, 06:39 PM
Just like Brian Gerrish said they would.


I wonder how many Times readers who would have dismissed this as conspiracy theory will now say there's nothing wrong with the policy...

real6
15-07-2009, 07:20 PM
http://www.bunkertv.com/hwdvideoshare/view-video/161/banned-60-minutes-swine-flu-1976.html

cleopatraxxx
15-07-2009, 07:25 PM
here is what i found on the Departmnent of Health GOV website
http://www.dh.gov.uk/en/News/Recentstories/DH_098573


"Statement on Swine Flu/AH1N1 (http://www.dh.gov.uk/en/News/Recentstories/DH_098573)

Last modified date:
27 April 2009

The Secretary of State for Health (Alan Johnson):

With permission, Mr Speaker. I should like to make a statement on the reports of human cases of swine influenza known as the H1N1 infection in some parts of the world, notably Mexico and the United States of America.

The outbreak began in Mexico on 18 March and as at 9pm last night, there have been over 800 cases and 89 deaths in that country. However, to date, only 18 cases in Mexico have been confirmed as being caused by the H1N1 virus and it is highly possible that other, more routine causes of infection are also currently circulating in that country.

On Tuesday last week, under the terms of the International Health Regulations, the United States reported seven cases of the H1N1 infection. On Friday 24th April, the United States Centre for Disease Control confirmed that samples from Mexico contained the same virus as those in the United States.

Twenty cases have now been confirmed in five different states of the USA, four have been confirmed in Canada and one in Spain. Suspected cases have also been reported from New Zealand, France and Israel, although it is important to note that these are suspected cases and have not yet been confirmed as the H1N1 infection.

In the UK 25 cases are under investigation have been reported. Eight of these have proved to be negative, and three are currently undergoing further specialist tests. These three patients are in isolation wards in hospital, after recently travelling in Mexico. People who have been in close contact with them are currently being contacted. The remaining 14 suspected cases are undergoing initial investigation and the people involved are sufficiently well to be managed in the community.

It is too early to say whether the cases in Mexico and the US will lead to a pandemic. Scientists do not yet understand the extent to which cases in Mexico and the US are linked and are not yet able to make a complete assessment of the health implications of this new virus.

A pandemic is declared when the WHO raises the Pandemic Alert to Phase 6. This means that there is widespread person to person transmission of a virus in the general population.

At the moment we are at Phase 3.

The Director-General of the World Health Organization (WHO), Dr Margaret Chan, has declared that this is a public health emergency of international concern. The WHO is convening a committee of experts from around the world which is meeting this afternoon to review the situation and determine what further action is required at a global level.

In deciding the state of the Pandemic Alert, the WHO bases its decision on expert scientific advice based on the available epidemiological and scientific evidence.

The range of symptoms in the people affected is similar to those of regular human seasonal influenza. It is important to note that, apart from in Mexico, all those infected with the virus have experienced mild symptoms and made a full recovery. The swine flu that has been isolated in Mexico and the United States is sensitive to the antiviral drugs Tamiflu and Ralenza. These drugs are effective in treating the illness, provided they are taken quickly enough, and they can also reduce the length of symptoms and usually their severity.(WHAT AN ABSOLUTE LOAD OF BULLSH*T!! IT WAS PROVEN tamiflu WAS INNEFFECTIVE AGAINST BIRD FLU, WHY WOULD IT BE EFFECTIVE FOR SWINE FLU? IT ISN'T! NO ONE HAS A CURE AGAINST SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T EXIST EITHER!)

Initial action in the UK

I would like to outline to the House the measures which we are taking in response to this significant health threat.

The UK has been preparing for a flu pandemic for the last five years. We have established a stockpile of enough antivirals to treat more than 33 (ILLUMINATI USUAL NUMBER< RIGHT?) million people, that is to say, half of the United Kingdon population. All NHS organisations have pandemic flu plans in place and the Department of Health is now working closely with the NHS to ensure that these plans can be put into action so that antivirals can be made available to the public very rapidly should we reach that stage.

Over the weekend, the Government has been putting in place precautionary measures to implement the plans we have been developing in the case of more widespread infections in the UK. I have spoken to Ministerial colleagues and my opposition shadows this morning and I will be convening a meeting of the Civil Contingencies Committee immediately following this statement.

We have enhanced our port health checks so that passengers arriving in the UK with symptoms of illness are identified and assessed. Information is being made available to passengers arriving at ports and we have provided urgent advice to doctors.

Should the virus start spreading widely in the UK, we propose to use our antiviral stockpile for treatment of symptomatic patients.

We already have advance agreements in place with manufacturers, should a vaccine be developed, although it is important to note, that it will be sometime before scientists can develop a vaccine, as the virus is not yet sufficiently understood. Experts are currently examining whether vaccination with the regular, seasonal flu vaccine can in any way boost immunity to the H1N1 strain, and we are considering how best we can use the limited stocks that are currently available within the UK.

Many people will wish to know whether they should wear facemasks. Although we are aware that facemasks are being given out to the public in Mexico, the available scientific evidence does not support the general wearing of facemasks by those who are not ill whilst going about their normal activities.

We are, however, urgently looking into how we can increase our stockpiles of facemasks for healthcare workers who are treating sick patients. We have also established infection control guidance to support staff when treating or caring for people who have symptoms.

Information for the public

We already have well advanced plans for providing information to the public in the event of a pandemic, in particular about what people can do to help themselves in the event of swine influenza being confirmed in the UK.

Updated information is available on NHS Choices and the HPA websites and further information is also available for health and social care staff on the Department of Health website. We are putting in place an Information Line containing recorded, up to date information for those who want to know more about this type of flu. In addition, NHS Direct is providing information to people who have recently travelled overseas and are worried that they may have symptoms. (my comment: EXACTLY WHAT ARE TGE SYMPTOMS in swine flu THAT DIFFER from a normal influenza?)

Key messages

There are three key messages I would like to stress at this stage.

First, it is important to emphasise that in all cases outside Mexico, the symptoms of this illness are mild and all patients have made a full recovery. (my comment: odinary flu passes away!)

Second, we can all take simple measures to prevent infection, in particular covering the nose and mouth when coughing or sneezing and washing hands regularly. Any one who develops flu-like symptoms should go home and contact their GP. (my comment: what is the difference of the normal flu and the wsine flu? no where in this text exist any description!..because there isn't a swine flu)

Third, anyone who has recently travelled to the affected areas and is experiencing influenza- like illness should stay at home to limit contact with others and seek medical advice by phone from a local health professional or NHS Direct.

In line with advice from the WHO, there are currently no travel restrictions on those who are planning to visit affected areas: anyone planning to do so is advised to ensure they take the measures I have outlined to prevent infection and to consult a doctor immediately if they show signs of flu-like symptoms.

To enable local health services to respond to the pressure that the possibility of a pandemic may bring on services, we are working with primary care trusts to ensure that arrangements are in place to support this distribution arrangement for antivirals, should this become necessary.

There is understandable trepidation and concern across the world. Here in the UK, we are monitoring the situation very closely alongside WHO and our international partners. The UK has been preparing for such an occurrence for a number of years and the World Health Organisation has recognised that the UK and France are the two best prepared countries in the world.

I wanted to take this opportunity to update the House on what we know so far and I will of course keep Parliament fully updated on what is obviously a rapidly developing situation."
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Monday in SKY NEWS, here in the UK, on the scrolling bar on the TV and radio afterwards was being told to us that a GIRL and her GP both died after contracting the Swine Flu. And that it was the !st confrimed case of deaths directly resulting of SWINE FLU and not from some other underlying medical condition like in all previous deaths.

I think this came for two reasons:
1. the doctor knew she had no swine flu and maybe tried alerting others, so the doctor was elliminated with the girl.
2. because many people i heard were all saying that so far they only heard of patients diying of underlying medical conditions of another disease rather than from the flu.

Another opinion of mine is:
seems to me that this swine flu they are tring to tell us is deadly works more like AIDS. AIDS itself doesn't kill you directly. It affects your immune system, destroying its ability of self-defense and hence any other disease ends up killing you. The HIV is what destroys the cells that affect the immune system. so they tell us. Antivirals don't help when the disease is in a very advanced state. if the body is healthy enough it actually can have HIV and never kill the person. Ideally one doesn't want to take the anti-virals! they destoyr the cells more than help them.

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i would suggest those who have relatives or friends who have been diagnosed with the swine flu to DEMAND SCIENTIFIC LABORATORIAL EVIDENCE OF THE STRAIN IN THE BODY. I BET THERE WILL BE NONE: hence reject all vaccination advised etc. Do not panic either. I WOULD ADVISE TOO TO TAKE THIS EVIDENCE IF GIVEN AND ASK THE MEDIA, ANY MEDIA TO TALK ABOUT IT'S EXISTANCE OR NON-EXISTANCE AS SUCH, it might be false and make other docrtors and scientists aware of this and talk it.
i WOULD ALSO SUGGEST TO ANYONE IN THIS SITUATION TO COME FORWARD IF THEIR RELATIVES DIE TO DEMAND SCIENTIFC LAB PROOF OF THE STRAIN THAT KILLED THIS PERSON. I BET THEY WILL NOT GIVE ANY AND THEN GO TO THE MEDIA TOO TO EXPOSE THE HOAX!
please don't be affraid n there is nothing to be lost yet!
at least we can try and prevent forced vaccinations against a disease that is non-existent.
I advised this to a friend who's ex-wife was diagnosed with the swine flu here in the UK. I have no news from this person yet.
THANKS
CLEO

pduffy4
15-07-2009, 09:56 PM
I've still not had my calls returned by the heads of my childrens' schools, but I've just rung the secondary school again and got through to the school manager (whom I never knew existed).

He advised me that they would need to have signed consent before they could administer any vaccination.

I've instructed him to put on record that I categorically forbid them to give my daughter any form of treatment for swine flu at any time, incase the government decide to instruct them at some point that they can go ahead without consent.

I fear that your children could be vaccinated all of a sudden. The government know that a lot of people don't like the idea of vaccines and I don't think they will give any warning even a day in advance. After all, they had their 7/7 exercise without any prior warning.

If you could home school your children until Christmas or so, same for any others here with children, then that may be a good idea. Better safe than sorry.

melgibstein
16-07-2009, 01:26 AM
JERUSALEM (JTA)-- An Israeli pharmaceutical company has recalled two batches of an anesthetic drug connected to the investigation of Michael Jackson's death.

The anesthetic was found in Jackson's home following his death last month, the Associated Press reported.

Teva Pharmaceuticals recalled two lots of propofol after 40 people in three states got sick from bacterial contamination. A Teva spokeswoman told the news service that the tracking number on the tainted lots was different from the number on the vial found at Jackson's home.

The drug is normally used in hospitals to render patients unconscious during surgery. Investigators are seeking to trace how the drug came into Jackson's possession.

pipsicle
16-07-2009, 01:55 PM
The swine flu that has been isolated in Mexico and the United States is sensitive to the antiviral drugs Tamiflu and Ralenza. These drugs are effective in treating the illness, provided they are taken quickly enough, and they can also reduce the length of symptoms and usually their severity.[/U][/B](WHAT AN ABSOLUTE LOAD OF BULLSH*T!! IT WAS PROVEN tamiflu WAS INNEFFECTIVE AGAINST BIRD FLU, WHY WOULD IT BE EFFECTIVE FOR SWINE FLU? IT ISN'T! NO ONE HAS A CURE AGAINST SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T EXIST EITHER!)



Surely the purpose of the Tamiflu marketing is twofold:

1) To get rid of massive stocks of a useless medicine that nobody wants with a profit
2) To maintain the momentum for mass mandatory vaccination

If the public recognised people could recover from "swine flu" with just bed rest and healthy diet, the excuse for the vaccine would fall to bits.

cleopatraxxx
16-07-2009, 05:08 PM
JERUSALEM (JTA)-- An Israeli pharmaceutical company has recalled two batches of an anesthetic drug connected to the investigation of Michael Jackson's death.

The anesthetic was found in Jackson's home following his death last month, the Associated Press reported.

Teva Pharmaceuticals recalled two lots of propofol after 40 people in three states got sick from bacterial contamination. A Teva spokeswoman told the news service that the tracking number on the tainted lots was different from the number on the vial found at Jackson's home.

The drug is normally used in hospitals to render patients unconscious during surgery. Investigators are seeking to trace how the drug came into Jackson's possession.

UNBELIEVABLE:eek:
TERRIFYING and
SCANDALOUS..the least! :mad:

:(:(:(

tosso
16-07-2009, 06:59 PM
why they dont just delay the start of school year?

beldazar
16-07-2009, 07:04 PM
why they dont just delay the start of school year?

They dont want to do that....they WANT everyone vaccined, manipulated, indoctrinated,. bullied, tormented and everything else ending in 'ed'



Like 'ded' lol

bettyboo
16-07-2009, 08:49 PM
I recall an article somewhere or a post here perhaps where a nurse had been interviewed as a first hand witness about the 1918 Spanish flu. She stated that the reason for so many deaths was not the flu itself but the treatment given to the patients. Has anyone seen such an article?

nosferatu_dj
17-07-2009, 02:22 AM
The outbreak of war in the Pacific led to the release of Regulation 35A of the National Security (General) Regulations. This Regulation allowed Queensland Premier Forgan Smith to order the immediate closure of coastal schools from Thursday Island to Coolangatta under the Protection of Persons and Property Order 8A. Schools were to remain closed at the end of the summer holidays.

At the start of 1942 all schools closed for several months. This was at a time that the perceived threat of a Japanese invasion was very high. Things were very tense in Queensland at the time of the Battle of the Coral Sea in early May 1942. In some north Queensland towns, trains were parked at railways sidings with their boilers at the ready, to evacuate school children in the event of an invasion.

Thousands of students from many State Schools as well as exclusive private secondary school were moved to scattered dormitories and classrooms either within the local area or moved to inland towns such as Stanthorpe, Dalby, Barcaldine and Warwick. There was a shortage of teachers during the war years.

Approximately 60 boarders at St. Augustine's Marist Brothers School in Cairns were relocated to the Lake Barrine Guest House which had been leased by the school. The school and household equipment was loaded by the Marist Brothers with assistance from the boarders and other helpers and sent in convoys to Lake Barrine on the Atherton Tablelands. The boarders had what they considered to be a fantastic 12 months "holiday" at Lake Barrine. This included numerous bush walks and fishing trips They would attend the picture theatre at Yungaburra and encounter the variety of animal life in the tropical rain forests of the Atherton Tablelands. Despite a small outbreak of dengue fever a great time was had by all. So much so that it was difficult for the Marist Brothers to maintain the boy's interest in school work.

12 sisters, 130 girls and 2 large van loads of classroom and boarding school furniture were part of the wartime evacuation of All Hallow's school in Brisbane. 75 girls from All Hallow's went to Warwick, 47 others went to Stanthorpe. 8 went to Roma and 7 went to Dalby.

The girls of Lourdes Hill school in Brisbane were evacuated by train on 16 February 1942 to Gayndah convent.

The girls at Stuartholme in Brisbane were evacuated from their school to a small country hotel at Canungra near the bottom of Mount Tamborine. The hotel bar was turned into a study room. Stuartholme was then taken over by the Americans to establish the US Army's 42nd General Hospital. The Stuartholme girls were relocated to the Grand Hotel, at Southport when the Americans established Camp Cable in the Mount Tamborine area. The girls remained at the Grand Hotel until the end of 1944.

Loreto girls school at Coorparoo in Brisbane was evacuated interstate to the New England Boys' Grammar School in Glen Innes in New South Wales. Loreto was used by the Australian Army as a Convalescent Hospital for wounded soldiers.

St. Rita's girls school at Clayfield in Brisbane, was inspected by both the American and Australian military forces, but was used by neither. St. Rita's was very close to Camp Ascot at the Ascot Racecourse. Because of its perceived vulnerable location, the girls at St. Rita's were given an option to evacuate to Murgon for the year if they so desired.

Our Lady of the Sacred Heart College for Boys at Whinstanes was ordered closed due to its closeness to some petrol storage areas near the Brisbane River. The College was run by the Daughters of Our Lady of the Sacred Heart. The students were evacuated to two rented properties in Toowoomba. "Maranoa" a former guest house was used as accommodation and "Sonnenberg" a nearby house, was used as classrooms. In late 1942, the school was relocated to "Lyndon" which was a few blocks away. After the war the sisters stayed permanently in Toowoomba and the school at Whinstanes was sold to the Augustinian Fathers.

Schools at Charters Towers were not ordered closed and many reported record attendances due to the number of children from coastal areas being sent to western towns.

When some schools reopened in March 1942, slit trenches were dug as Air Raid Shelters before the children returned to the school. Evacuation procedures were taught and regularly practices. Teachers were taught First Aid techniques. Infant classes remained closed until the end of 1942. Classes up to Grade 6 only attended school for morning classes.

Many school buildings proved to be very suitable for military purposes during WW2. The Hirings Section of the Australian Army Hirings Service were involved in acquiring many school buildings for the Army and other military services. The schools were mainly used for two purposes:-

- barracks and administration centres
- hospitals

The staff and students of the Church of England Boy's School in Toowoomba were moved eastwards to St. Hilda's School at Southport in April 1942. Captain Melloy of Hirings Section, No. 1 L of C, acquired the school on behalf of the Australian Army who set up their Headquarters, 1st Australian Army under the command of Lieutenant-General Sir John Lavarack.

The Catholic Church and the Church of England were staring to feel uneasy about the number of their schools being requisitioned by the Australian Army. The Australian Catholic Bishop's meeting in Sydney protested strongly to the Australian Prime Minister about the issue. Frank Forde, the Minister for the Army, then undertook to personally become involved in approving the requisitioning of all future schools. He indicated that there would be no exemptions for State-run schools.

The Army Hirings Section would take a full inventory of the schools that they were taking over and carry out an assessment of the school's condition immediately prior to occupation. The School Principal would countersign these documents.


http://home.st.net.au/~dunn/locations/schools@war.htm

http://home.st.net.au/~dunn/ozatwar/commandeer.htm

Many school buildings proved to be very suitable for military purposes during WW2. The Hirings Section of the Australian Army Hirings Service were involved in acquiring many school buildings for the Army and other military services. The schools were mainly used for two purposes:-

- barracks and administration centres
- hospitals

Déjà vu

cleopatraxxx
17-07-2009, 10:37 AM
Many school buildings proved to be very suitable for military purposes during WW2. The Hirings Section of the Australian Army Hirings Service were involved in acquiring many school buildings for the Army and other military services. The schools were mainly used for two purposes:-

- barracks and administration centres
- hospitals

Déjà vu

difference: then 1940's there was a war going on. fireams were involved.

today,
we are only shown forcasted death predictions for the UK in winter and for that reason forced vaccinations are about to happen?!?!?! i do not see humans fall on the streets like dead flies, there is no pandemic. HUMANS DEFINITELY WILL FALL INTO BED AND DIE FROM THE VACCINES PROVIDED BY BAXTER WHO IS UNDER INVESTIGATION FOR HAVING TINTED VACCINES ADMINISTRATED TO PEOPOEL WHICH RESULTED IN IMMEDIATE DEATHS! How can the WHO even allow this company to continue producing and selling? because the WHO is involved ion the mass murder genocide planned and about to be executed on the world population.

WHO is on level 6 already and that means powers have already been transfered to FEMA< POLICE, MILITARY, all over the world.
a tiny group of mothersuckers decided that the planet has to go to level 6 and now we HAVE TO BE VACCINATED?????? is that not called FASCISM?!?!?! it certainly is.

It stroke me yesterday while i was reading the names of the main "affected" countries in the Southern Hemisphere. amongst them is Chile, which just came out of the FASCIST REgime in 1990. no wonder why WHO has targeted this country lieing to us with their "numebrs" of deaths and infected people.. Because CHILEANS lived the fascist state they will be the first to oppose anything FORCED on them. they know the patterns, so they have to be the first ones to be eliminated, by being poisoned via vaccines!

thank you for the article nosferatu_dj and for bringin this to the general attention. kets keep this great work because many people are already alerted and are starting to wake-up to this monstruosity.

Kindly
Cleo

gilly
17-07-2009, 01:29 PM
I'm sure my lad's school are taking the piss.

Swine-flu 'pandemic'? The end of term excursion planned, is to a wild boar park!

cleopatraxxx
17-07-2009, 01:33 PM
I'm sure my lad's school are taking the piss.

Swine-flu 'pandemic'? The end of term excursion planned, is to a wild boar park!

???????????????
i wonder there what will they be telling to the kids about SWINEs and FLU, etc.
they will be brainwashing them at every opportunity

imagine you tell your child they are not getting vaccinated against the flu, and they cry back begging you to becasue they have been told so by the headmaster and teachers and all their mates will be "protected" etc....
and worst, if the child is stubborn to keep quite abou this will be difficult...
eeeh...:( i don't know.
so sad and mad all this....
i would not allow the child onthis trip
i would come up with any excuse not to allow mine on it...
Good luck Gilly

melinda980
17-07-2009, 02:37 PM
Normally I don't bother taking in too much where the mainstream media are concerned, but two nights ago really took the biscuit! The newsreader on the 6pm BBC news announced that the Tamiflu vaccine has been in preparation for seven years. He looked uncomfortable saying in as well. What is the difference then between ordinary flu and Swine flu??? Swine flu wasn't in existance back then. This is all bull.. hype and hysteria. Come this morning the Mirror is reporting that there *may* be up to 65,000 deaths from it this winter.

alzee
17-07-2009, 06:26 PM
Normally I don't bother taking in too much where the mainstream media are concerned, but two nights ago really took the biscuit! The newsreader on the 6pm BBC news announced that the Tamiflu vaccine has been in preparation for seven years. He looked uncomfortable saying in as well. What is the difference then between ordinary flu and Swine flu??? Swine flu wasn't in existance back then. This is all bull.. hype and hysteria. Come this morning the Mirror is reporting that there *may* be up to 65,000 deaths from it this winter.

Tamiflu is not a vaccine, it's an antiviral pill, which may well have been in 7 years development.

pipsicle
17-07-2009, 06:35 PM
One Pat Rattigan has some interesting thoughts on the history and mentality behind vaccinations:

Vaccination rests on several self-evident myths:
That Edward Jenner's vaccine saved Britain and the world from smallpox
False and diametrically opposed to reality; the vaccine caused countless deaths and illnesses for the vaccinated and massive constitutional problems for successive generations.

That germs cause disease
False; lack of immunity causes disease.

That vaccines confer immunity
False; immunity is a whole body phenomenon which cannot be conferred by subcutaneous injection.

That vaccines were responsible for the declines of the infectious diseases
False; the graphs show clearly that no beneficial effect from vaccination was ever evident.

That vaccines are safe
False; vaccination has clearly been shown to be far and away the greatest health-destroyer of all.

That conditions such as measles, whooping cough, etc are dangerous and need to be ‘wiped out’
False; it would be impossible for any child in reasonable health to be damaged or killed by these conditions. These illnesses have always been known as health-beneficial, due to the cleansing of inherited and acquired disease tendencies and toxins, and due to enhanced immune-system function.
This has now been lost and replaced by a plague – physical, emotional, mental and psychic.

The holocaust grows daily.

http://www.ivanfraser.com/articles/health/vaccination.html#hand

(This article was sent to several members of the Labour Cabinet).

pipsicle
17-07-2009, 07:03 PM
Petition against mandatory vaccination:

www.thepetitionsite.com/1/a-universal-declaration-of-resistance-to-mandatory-vaccinations

zendog
17-07-2009, 08:18 PM
I am so thankful that I have the ability to homeschool my children.

One of the reasons my 7 year old got pulled out after "preschool" was BECAUSE of CONSTANT illnesses. Schools are total breeding grounds for nothing but germs, then lets make them into vaccination houses to add in right on top of that.

Unreal.

My poor youngest got EVERYTHING the oldest brought home. Poor kid didn't even get to have his second birthday party - because both kids were sick AGAIN.

I am so sad that I got both of them vaccinated, when I cried every single time KNOWING that something was seriously WRONG with that. I felt it in my bones. I asked a lot of questions, and was told "Well, you sit with a child in the hospital that has one of these diseases, and you'll know why you need to vaccinate" basically.

This was when I started to question it, and started to "refuse" vaccinations from the pediatricians.

I even had one doc tell me, "well, if you even get just the FIRST round of the flu shot, I won't make him have the second round - but he's HIGH risk due to the asthma, so you really need to have at least the first flu shot."

Yah, he "won't make him" get the second shot. Make him my ass.

And here's what else I heard... "Well, since he's already being vaccinated with his school shots (my oldest was 5 at the time) it'll be easier on him to just get the flu shot now."

God I can't believe what I fell for. How STUPID I was. How I TRUSTED those doctors.

My oldest has been vaccinated to age 5 - and has not had a needle touch him since. My oldest got jabbed until he was 2, and he will NOT be jabbed again. I don't care what kind of fear mongering they throw at me.

The worst part is, that my boys, ages 7 and 4 now - have already had the damage done. I wasn't smart enough back then. I had FEELINGS that I didn't listen to. For that - they will pay later, I'm sure.

Unless I can find some safe ways of naturally cleaning out all the gunk from those vaccines out of their systems - so if anyone has links for how to clear the vaccination crap out of young kids - let me know.

I tell EVERYONE not to get flu shots in my family, and they don't listen. My dad gets one every year. My mom gets them. I tell them why they shouldn't but the fear gets to them.

My children, husband and I - DO NOT EVER take flu shots. Matter of fact, I'm also down on the tetnus and any other shot they try to bring along. Yeah, force me at gunpoint - but left to choice? My children will never again have a vaccination of any kind.

They won't be pumping their poison into my youngest at 5 like they did my oldest. And the oldest will be getting NO updated vaccines.

They use Public SCHOOLS so much it makes me sick. Freakin government ran "daycares" for children - since both parents have to work - ya know. Free babysitting while supposedly getting some kind of education.

Well, I'm probably preaching to the choir here - but - those hell holes they call PUBLIC SCHOOLS are really nothing more than brainwashing centers. Teach them kids the RULES, confuse the crap out of them, take out God and any FAMILY values, and prepare them from day one to put up with Illuminati bullshit.

No thanks. I'll pass.

Don't need anyone to teach my kids how to read, write and do math.

With that, time to go think BETTER THOUGHTS! :)

Thanks!
Michelle

Hi Michelle - Kinseology can help with damage caused by vaccinations apparently so worth looking into and I've also heard that homeopathic remedies taken before and after vaccination can protect from vaccine damage.

guuna
18-07-2009, 12:12 AM
Normally I don't bother taking in too much where the mainstream media are concerned, but two nights ago really took the biscuit! The newsreader on the 6pm BBC news announced that the Tamiflu vaccine has been in preparation for seven years. He looked uncomfortable saying in as well. What is the difference then between ordinary flu and Swine flu??? Swine flu wasn't in existance back then. This is all bull.. hype and hysteria. Come this morning the Mirror is reporting that there *may* be up to 65,000 deaths from it this winter.


The Daily Mirror is a mouthpiece for New Labour propaganda, just like the BBC and Sky and fox.

Murdoch backed Blair in 3 general elections. The Mirror editor Kevin Maguire is often described as new labours shill on fleet street, He's always on sky news reviewing the newsrint so doubtless he takes Murdoch's filthy lucre.

nosferatu_dj
18-07-2009, 06:19 AM
Many school buildings proved to be very suitable for military purposes during WW2. The Hirings Section of the Australian Army Hirings Service were involved in acquiring many school buildings for the Army and other military services. The schools were mainly used for two purposes:-

- barracks and administration centres
- hospitals

Déjà vu

difference: then 1940's there was a war going on. fireams were involved.

today,
we are only shown forcasted death predictions for the UK in winter and for that reason forced vaccinations are about to happen?!?!?! i do not see humans fall on the streets like dead flies, there is no pandemic. HUMANS DEFINITELY WILL FALL INTO BED AND DIE FROM THE VACCINES PROVIDED BY BAXTER WHO IS UNDER INVESTIGATION FOR HAVING TINTED VACCINES ADMINISTRATED TO PEOPOEL WHICH RESULTED IN IMMEDIATE DEATHS! How can the WHO even allow this company to continue producing and selling? because the WHO is involved ion the mass murder genocide planned and about to be executed on the world population.

WHO is on level 6 already and that means powers have already been transfered to FEMA< POLICE, MILITARY, all over the world.
a tiny group of mothersuckers decided that the planet has to go to level 6 and now we HAVE TO BE VACCINATED?????? is that not called FASCISM?!?!?! it certainly is.

It stroke me yesterday while i was reading the names of the main "affected" countries in the Southern Hemisphere. amongst them is Chile, which just came out of the FASCIST REgime in 1990. no wonder why WHO has targeted this country lieing to us with their "numebrs" of deaths and infected people.. Because CHILEANS lived the fascist state they will be the first to oppose anything FORCED on them. they know the patterns, so they have to be the first ones to be eliminated, by being poisoned via vaccines!

thank you for the article nosferatu_dj and for bringin this to the general attention. kets keep this great work because many people are already alerted and are starting to wake-up to this monstruosity.

Kindly
Cleo

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/07/18/2629659.htm?section=justin

Brazil hospitals get bulletproof makeover
18/07/2009

The Brazilian government says it plans to fortify public hospitals in the city of Rio de Janeiro to protect patients and medical staff from stray bullets.

The city has been plagued by gun battles between criminal gangs.

The health ministry says five hospitals will be protected with concrete walls, steel shutters and bulletproof glass.

- BBC

still think there is no connection?

guzla
18-07-2009, 11:42 AM
Does anybody here know anyone who have had or has got the Swineflu?

jhado
18-07-2009, 01:57 PM
Does anybody here know anyone who have had or has got the Swineflu?

Yes, my sister and her two daughters are all down with, what was diagnosed on the phone, as swine-flu. They've all dutifully had their tamiflu. :(

pipsicle
19-07-2009, 04:01 PM
Does anybody here know anyone who have had or has got the Swineflu?


Yes, my friend got it a few weeks ago. She was fine within a week to go on holiday to Spain.

Unsurprisingly none of the national newspapers started screaming her story in their headlines.

golden lady
19-07-2009, 06:42 PM
I managed to catch up with the school nurse on Thursday and she confirmed they are returning in Sept for the cervical cancer vacines. Phew. (For these vacinations parent permission was sought and certainly would not be allowed to be given without).
My Sch has now closed for the summer holls but a close friend who happens to be one of the sch governors has promised me if she hears of a change during the summer or for schools to be used for mass swine flu vacination centres she will keep me informed.
As I said before I will be keeping an eye on sch gov web sites.
Keep safe
Golden

ambersky
20-07-2009, 12:26 AM
A relative in a senior admin position at a London college was appraoched at work by officials - Police Commissioner and another guy (WHO official?) to ask if the college could be used as a centre for administering vaccinations.

I don't have many details at the moment, but am told these guys came across as intimidating, so it wasn't percieved as a polite request for help.

Was told the decision lies with the college Principal.

purdx
20-07-2009, 01:36 PM
Hi, i've just joined the forum and i just wanted to say the more and more i read the more this whole swine flu situation feels really wrong.

I worry they won't even need to make the vaccine mandatory because the media is doing such a dam good job of scaring the hell out of the public!!!

I was watching the BBC news this morning and they are now telling pregnant women to be careful about leaving the house!!!

Anyone that listens to this bull thats invading the planet is crazy!!!

P.s, Its nice to find a place where people really understand whats going on!!

alzee
20-07-2009, 01:47 PM
Hi, i've just joined the forum and i just wanted to say the more and more i read the more this whole swine flu situation feels really wrong.

I worry they won't even need to make the vaccine mandatory because the media is doing such a dam good job of scaring the hell out of the public!!!

I was watching the BBC news this morning and they are now telling pregnant women to be careful about leaving the house!!!

Anyone that listens to this bull thats invading the planet is crazy!!!

P.s, Its nice to find a place where people really understand whats going on!!

And it's equally nice to see new people waking up.

Welcome to the rabbit hole :)

pipsicle
20-07-2009, 02:03 PM
Squalene: The Swine Flu Vaccine’s Dirty Little Secret Exposed


By Dr. Mercola

According to Kathleen Sebelius, Secretary of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, your children should be the first target for mass swine flu vaccinations when school starts this fall.

This is a ridiculous assumption for many reasons, not to mention extremely high risk.

In Australia, where the winter season has begun, Federal Health Minister Nicola Roxon is reassuring parents the swine flu is no more dangerous than regular seasonal flu. "Most people, including children, will experience very mild symptoms and recover without any medical intervention," she said.[ii]

Sydney-based immunization specialist Robert Booy predicts swine flu might be fatal to about twice as many children in the coming year as regular influenza. Booy estimates 10-12 children could die from the H1N1 virus, compared with the five or six regular flu deaths seen among children in an average year in Australia.[iii]

“Cure the Disease, Kill the Patient”

Less than 100 children in the U.S. die each year from seasonal flu viruses.[iv] If we use Australia’s math, a very rough estimate would be another 100 children could potentially die of swine flu in the United States in the coming year.



If children are the first target group in the U.S. per Sebelius, that means we’re about to inject around 75 million children with a fast tracked vaccine containing novel adjuvants, including dangerous squalene, to prevent perhaps 100 deaths.



I’m not overlooking the tragedy of the loss of even one child to an illness like the H1N1 flu virus. But there can be no argument that unnecessary mass injection of millions of children with a vaccine containing an adjuvant known to cause a host of debilitating autoimmune diseases is a reckless, dangerous plan.

Why are Vaccinations Dangerous?



The presumed intent of a vaccination is to help you build immunity to potentially harmful organisms that cause illness and disease. However, your body’s immune system is already designed to do this in response to organisms which invade your body naturally.



Most disease-causing organisms enter your body through the mucous membranes of your nose, mouth, pulmonary system or your digestive tract – not through an injection.



These mucous membranes have their own immune system, called the IgA immune system. It is a different system from the one activated when a vaccine is injected into your body.



Your IgA immune system is your body’s first line of defense. Its job is to fight off invading organisms at their entry points, reducing or even eliminating the need for activation of your body’s immune system.



When a virus is injected into your body in a vaccine, and especially when combined with an immune adjuvant like squalene, your IgA immune system is bypassed and your body’s immune system kicks into high gear in response to the vaccination.



Injecting organisms into your body to provoke immunity is contrary to nature, and vaccination carries enormous potential to do serious damage to your health.

And as if Vaccines Weren’t Dangerous Enough on Their Own …

… imagine them turbocharged.



The main ingredient in a vaccine is either killed viruses or live ones that have been attenuated (weakened and made less harmful).



Flu vaccines can also contain a number of chemical toxins, including ethylene glycol (antifreeze), formaldehyde, phenol (carbolic acid) and even antibiotics like Neomycin and streptomycin.



In addition to the viruses and other additives, many vaccines also contain immune adjuvants like aluminum and squalene.



The purpose of an immune adjuvant added to a vaccine is to enhance (turbo charge) your immune response to the vaccination. Adjuvants cause your immune system to overreact to the introduction of the organism you’re being vaccinated against.



Adjuvants are supposed to get the job done faster (but certainly not more safely), which reduces the amount of vaccine required per dose, and the number of doses given per individual.



Less vaccine required per person means more individual doses available for mass vaccination campaigns. Coincidentally, this is exactly the goal of government and the pharmaceutical companies who stand to make millions from their vaccines.

Will There Be Immune Adjuvants in Swine Flu Vaccines?

The U.S. government has contracts with several drug companies to develop and produce swine flu vaccines. At least two of those companies, Novartis and GlaxoSmithKline, are using an adjuvant in their H1N1 vaccines.



The adjuvant? Squalene.

According to Meryl Nass, M.D., an authority on the anthrax vaccine,



“A novel feature of the two H1N1 vaccines being developed by companies Novartis and GlaxoSmithKline is the addition of squalene-containing adjuvants to boost immunogenicity and dramatically reduce the amount of viral antigen needed. This translates to much faster production of desired vaccine quantities.”[v]



Novartis’s proprietary squalene adjuvant for their H1N1 vaccine is MF59. Glaxo’s is ASO3. MF59 has yet to be approved by the FDA for use in any U.S. vaccine, despite its history of use in other countries.



Per Dr. Nass, there are only three vaccines in existence using an approved squalene adjuvant. None of the three are approved for use in the U.S.

What Squalene Does to Rats

Oil-based vaccination adjuvants like squalene have been proved to generate concentrated, unremitting immune responses over long periods of time.[vi]



A 2000 study published in the American Journal of Pathology demonstrated a single injection of the adjuvant squalene into rats triggered “chronic, immune-mediated joint-specific inflammation,” also known as rheumatoid arthritis.[vii]



The researchers concluded the study raised questions about the role of adjuvants in chronic inflammatory diseases.

What Squalene Does to Humans

Your immune system recognizes squalene as an oil molecule native to your body. It is found throughout your nervous system and brain. In fact, you can consume squalene in olive oil and not only will your immune system recognize it, you will also reap the benefits of its antioxidant properties.



The difference between “good” and “bad” squalene is the route by which it enters your body. Injection is an abnormal route of entry which incites your immune system to attack all the squalene in your body, not just the vaccine adjuvant.



Your immune system will attempt to destroy the molecule wherever it finds it, including in places where it occurs naturally, and where it is vital to the health of your nervous system.[viii]



Gulf War veterans with Gulf War Syndrome (GWS) received anthrax vaccines which contained squalene.[ix] MF59 (the Novartis squalene adjuvant) was an unapproved ingredient in experimental anthrax vaccines and has since been linked to the devastating autoimmune diseases suffered by countless Gulf War vets.[x]



The Department of Defense made every attempt to deny that squalene was indeed an added contaminant in the anthrax vaccine administered to Persian Gulf war military personnel – deployed and non-deployed – as well as participants in the more recent Anthrax Vaccine Immunization Program (AVIP).



However, the FDA discovered the presence of squalene in certain lots of AVIP product. A test was developed to detect anti-squalene antibodies in GWS patients, and a clear link was established between the contaminated product and all the GWS sufferers who had been injected with the vaccine containing squalene.



A study conducted at Tulane Medical School and published in the February 2000 issue of Experimental Molecular Pathology included these stunning statistics:



“ … the substantial majority (95%) of overtly ill deployed GWS patients had antibodies to squalene. All (100%) GWS patients immunized for service in Desert Shield/Desert Storm who did not deploy, but had the same signs and symptoms as those who did deploy, had antibodies to squalene.



In contrast, none (0%) of the deployed Persian Gulf veterans not showing signs and symptoms of GWS have antibodies to squalene. Neither patients with idiopathic autoimmune disease nor healthy controls had detectable serum antibodies to squalene. The majority of symptomatic GWS patients had serum antibodies to squalene.”[xi]



According to Dr. Viera Scheibner, Ph.D., a former principle research scientist for the government of Australia:



“… this adjuvant [squalene] contributed to the cascade of reactions called "Gulf War Syndrome," documented in the soldiers involved in the Gulf War.



The symptoms they developed included arthritis, fibromyalgia, lymphadenopathy, rashes, photosensitive rashes, malar rashes, chronic fatigue, chronic headaches, abnormal body hair loss, non-healing skin lesions, aphthous ulcers, dizziness, weakness, memory loss, seizures, mood changes, neuropsychiatric problems, anti-thyroid effects, anaemia, elevated ESR (erythrocyte sedimentation rate), systemic lupus erythematosus, multiple sclerosis, ALS (amyotrophic lateral sclerosis), Raynaud’s phenomenon, Sjorgren’s syndrome, chronic diarrhoea, night sweats and low-grade fevers.”[xii]

Post Vaccination Follow-Up Might as Well Be Non-Existent

There is virtually no science to support the safety of vaccine injections on your long-term health or the health of your children. Follow-up studies last on average about two weeks, and look only for glaring injuries and illnesses.



Autoimmune disorders like those seen in Gulf War Syndrome frequently take years to diagnose due to the vagueness of early symptoms. Complaints like headaches, fatigue and chronic aches and pains are symptoms of many different illnesses and diseases.



Don’t hold your breath waiting for vaccine purveyors and proponents to look seriously at the long-term health consequences of their vaccination campaigns.

What You Can Do to Protect Yourself and Your Family

Visit the National Vaccination Information Center (NVIC) site and join in the fight against mandatory swine flu vaccinations.



Educate yourself about influenza strains, vaccination risks, and the public health laws in your state that may require you or your children to undergo either mandatory vaccination or quarantine.



Take care of your health to reduce or eliminate your risk of contracting the flu. The key is to keep your immune system strong by following these guidelines:



Eliminate sugar and processed foods from your diet. Sugar consumption has an immediate, debilitating effect on your immune system.
Take a high quality source of animal-based omega 3 fats like Krill Oil.
Exercise. Your immune system needs good circulation in order to perform at its best for you.
Optimize your vitamin D levels. Vitamin D deficiency is the likely cause of seasonal flu viruses. Getting an optimal level of vitamin D will help you fight infections of all kinds.
Get plenty of good quality sleep.
Deal with stress effectively. If you feel overwhelmed by stress, your body will not have the reserves it needs to fight infection.
Wash your hands. But not with an antibacterial soap. Use a pure, chemical-free soap.


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[i] USAToday.com, Swine flu shots may go to kids first, Sebelius says, June 16, 2009 http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2009-06-16-swine-flu-vaccine_N.htm

[ii] ABC.net.au, Health minister reassures parents over swine flu, July 2, 2009 http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/07/02/2614972.htm

[iii] Google News, AFP, Australia urges calm after child flu death, July 2, 2009, http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hVoGSwV_jPgg6J6Aoz8wSQiGyosg

[iv] Meryl Nass, M.D., July 4, 2009 http://anthraxvaccine.blogspot.com/2009/07/h1n1-update-australiahong-kongus.html

[v] Meryl Nass, M.D., July 3, 2009 http://anthraxvaccine.blogspot.com/2009/07/h1n1-vaccines-with-novel-adjuvants.html

[vi] Rense.com, Vaccines, Autism, and Gulf War Syndrome, August 15, 2005 http://www.rense.com/general67/vacc.htm

[vii] The American Journal of Pathology, The Endogenous Adjuvant Squalene Can Induce a Chronic T-Cell-Mediated Arthritis in Rats, 2000 http://ajp.amjpathol.org/cgi/content/abstract/156/6/2057

[viii] Vaccination Liberation, Adjuvant Index Page http://www.vaclib.org/basic/adjuvants.htm

[ix] Autoimmune Technologies, News Release: SQUALENE FOUND IN ANTHRAX VACCINE, http://www.autoimmune.com/SqualeneInVaccine.html

[x] Autoimmune Technologies, Gulf War Syndrome: ANTI-SQUALENE ANTIBODIES LINK GULF WAR SYNDROME TO ANTHRAX VACCINE http://www.autoimmune.com/GWSGen.html

[xi] ScienceDirect.com, Experimental and Molecular Pathology, Volume 68, Issue 1, February 2000, Pages 55-64 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6WFB-45F4JKG-1X&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_searchStrId=955180233&_rerunOrigin=google&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=da9e0c0eb432179ab78532f0ab787c09

[xii] Adverse Effects of Adjuvants in Vaccines, by Viera Scheibner, Ph.D., 2000 http://www.whale.to/vaccine/adjuvants.html

purdx
20-07-2009, 03:10 PM
Wow, some great info there pipsicle.

This vaccine could, and probably will have some very serious consequences for countless millions of people if its allowed to go ahead.

I know a few people who had the seasonal flu vaccine at the begining of this year. All of them had terrible side effects and one even ended up in hospital!!! This from a jab that wasn't fast tracked!!!!

As pipsicle says, the pharma industry is going to make a hell of a lot of money out of this, not only from the vaccine itself but the drugs they will produce to counter any health problems it causes in the future.

Alot of PC viruses are created by people who work for software companies as a justification to bring out a new addition, i think the same applys here!!!

purdx
20-07-2009, 03:11 PM
And it's equally nice to see new people waking up.

Welcome to the rabbit hole :)

Thanks, its good to finally be able to say what i feel and not get told to shut up!!

free_soul
20-07-2009, 08:54 PM
Government Readies Schools As Mass Vaccination Clinics

http://www.prisonplanet.com/government-readies-schools-as-mass-vaccination-clinics.html

Nationwide vaccination programs expected to be instituted this fall following WHO declaration of swine flu pandemic status

Government Readies Schools As Mass Vaccination Clinics 170609top

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Wednesday, June 17, 2009

The government is telling schools across the country to prepare to be used as clinics for mass vaccination programs set to be instituted later this year, according to an Associated Press report.

Schoolchildren are being targeted as the first recipients of a swine flu vaccine currently being developed, despite the fact that swine flu has proven far less lethal than originally feared, killing just 160 people worldwide, a figure dwarfed by the number of people who die annually from the regular flu virus.

The World Health Organization increased the hysteria surrounding swine flu last week, raising their alert status to level 6, indicating a global pandemic was underway.

“Schoolchildren could be first in line for swine flu vaccine this fall — and schools are being put on notice that they might even be turned into shot clinics,” states the report.

“Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said Tuesday she is urging school superintendents around the country to spend the summer preparing for that possibility, if the government goes ahead with mass vaccinations.”

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The last such mass vaccination program to combat swine flu in 1976 resulted in dozens of deaths and hundreds of injuries, after the Ford administration attempted to use the infection of soldiers at Fort Dix as a pretext for a mass vaccination of the entire country.

Americans have been psychologically conditioned by the mass media to accept the inevitability of enforced mass vaccination campaigns for years. The latest such example appeared in Time Magazine six weeks ago, where it was mooted that officials would be forced to “institute draconian measures to combat the disease,” measures which would include mandatory mass vaccination programs.

Some schools are already working with the government to run mass vaccination drills.

Eleven schools in Alaska recently participated in an exercise focused around dispensing mass vaccinations in the event of an outbreak.

May be a good place to start combating the lie of the vaccine.

Are there many going to be around educating the people on the bullshit they have been told about the vaccine

notmarkk
20-07-2009, 11:02 PM
Everyone should register on Digg and digg up these stories:

http://digg.com/search?s=do+not+take+swine+flu+vaccine

purdx
21-07-2009, 12:29 AM
Its interesting you say about nationwide vaccinations happening in the fall. On the same BBC report I spoke about earlier today, a health official being interviewed said "swine flu would be eradicated by the end of 2009".

Maybe thats me reading into it too much, but that sure as hell sounds like they plan to vaccinate everyone!!!

bicycle
21-07-2009, 11:39 AM
CONCERN was growing last night that the British public is not freaking out quite as much as it was supposed to.


In the last week the government, the media and a range of experts have all thrown more resources at their swine flu panic inducement strategies, including a series of contradictory announcements, random, blood-curdling death tolls and a warning that Britain's fleet of ice cream vans will be needed to store all the dead bodies.

But despite their all-out efforts, millions of people across the country have decided to simply wash their hands twice a day and accept that if they do get swine flu the chances of them dying from it are so small as to be really quite tedious.

Nevertheless the department of health will today urge people to empty their freezers, stressing that is where they will have to store their grandmother until the army can collect her and throw her into a landfill.

Meanwhile the Daily Biderberg once again outlined its plans to go into administration after warning its readers that every single one of them would be dead by the end of August.

An editorial in today's edition said: "The department of health is saying one thing and the National Childbirth Trust is saying a different thing. How can that not make you want to rip your ears off in abject terror?"

But Nikki Hollis, a pregnant lady from Stevenage, said: "From what I understand the National Childbirth Trust would like me to continue being pregnant until the pandemic is over, but, as I told a reporter from the Daily Bilderberg, my due date is September 14th.

"And while I am aware of the heightened risks and the possibility of feeling yucky for a couple of days, I am slightly more focused on being about eight weeks away from pushing a human through my vagina."

She added: "That said, I will continue to avoid getting a vaccine, crowded places and wash my hands regularly because I have actually worked out that swine flu is an airborne viral infection and not some sort of ninja."

nosferatu_dj
21-07-2009, 12:19 PM
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,25813050-2,00.html?from=public_rss

Palm Island baby dies, swine flu mum critical
By Daniel Bateman
Townsville Bulletin
July 21, 2009 06:41am



* Unborn child dead, mum fighting for life
* First known swine flu-related baby death
* Sharp rise in Queensland swine flu cases
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,25810061-3102,00.html

AN unborn child has died and the mother is fighting for her life after being struck by swine flu.

Health officials said the woman, 19, was transferred from Palm Island to Townsville Hospital on Saturday.

Indigenous swine flu plan needed
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25815190-29277,00.html

She remained in a critical condition in intensive care last night, the Townsville Bulletin reports.
http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/article/2009/07/21/65355_hpnews.html

It is understood the woman had carried her child to 36 weeks, before the baby died.

It is only the second swine flu-related death in Queensland, after a 38-year-old woman died at Brisbane's Mater Public Hospital last week.

It is also believed to be the first swine flu-related death of a baby in Australia.

The death has added to Palm Islanders' concerns the community may not be able to cope with a swine flu outbreak due to insufficient housing and health infrastructure.

James Cook University Indigenous health expert Dr Adrian Miller said health officials needed to act quickly on Palm Island.

''There needs to be a mobilisation of the pandemic plan that takes into consideration Palm Island's unique situation,'' he said.

''There should be some kind of contact tracing of how the person was exposed and who else was possibly exposed to the virus, getting in contact with them and having them come to the hospital for diagnosis.''

Queensland Health spokesman Garry McAulay said a flu clinic would open today at the island's community health centre.

''Queensland Health has remained active by setting up flu clinics when and where necessary, offering antiviral medication when appropriate, developing a range of resources in different languages as well as an indigenous 'no flu on you' campaign particularly for indigenous communities, including Palm Island, and a mainstream hygiene campaign,'' Mr McAulay said.

Read more on this story at the Townsville Bulletin
http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/article/2009/07/21/65355_hpnews.html

pipsicle
21-07-2009, 09:38 PM
ITV news: "as soon it's ready we want to start vaccinating people".
Independent: "the government has ordered 132 flu shots, enough for two for everyone".

Nowhere in either of these reports did the journalist actually raise the question of vaccine choice. In fact, I don't think i've seen this issue raised anywhere in the mainstream media.

nosferatu_dj
22-07-2009, 02:46 AM
ITV news: "as soon it's ready we want to start vaccinating people".
Independent: "the government has ordered 132 flu shots, enough for two for everyone".

Nowhere in either of these reports did the journalist actually raise the question of vaccine choice. In fact, I don't think i've seen this issue raised anywhere in the mainstream media.

yuor right... i ave not seen any "reports" stateing the vaccine is a choice...... JUST TAKE IT DAM U. STOP ASKING QUESTIONS:rolleyes:

solarwindspirit
22-07-2009, 04:51 AM
Be sure to take your vitamin C

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22-07-2009, 12:08 PM
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surfer91
22-07-2009, 12:10 PM
Good news on the idiot box national news tonight..
A swine flu vacine is 2 weeks away from being tested in Australia.Well whoopty Doo I cant fucking wait.I think I will have to open a bottle of bubbly tonight to celebrate this good news...These Moronic Drone news readers actually read it out like it really is good news that we should all be excited about..Then the poor Drone being filmed for the news whilst she is being injected with this poison and telling everyone how proud she felt because of all the lives that she may have helped to save by testing this shit..Although I must admit this girl did have a very distant,vacant look on her face.A prime candidate..

robindean
22-07-2009, 12:10 PM
Thanks for this, interesting stuff

wonder why it didn't work :rolleyes:

purdx
22-07-2009, 06:12 PM
Ok, I had a thought this morning.

It flashed through my mind how last winter, the company i work for offered flu vaccines to anyone that wanted it.

This thread is about mass vaccines in schools, but what if our workplaces make it mandatory for us to have the jab?

The recession would play as a trump card, as people would much rather take the vaccine than potentially loose their job for not taking it at a time where new jobs are hard to find.

Just a thought i wanted to share.

alzee
22-07-2009, 07:28 PM
CONCERN was growing last night that the British public is not freaking out quite as much as it was supposed to.


In the last week the government, the media and a range of experts have all thrown more resources at their swine flu panic inducement strategies, including a series of contradictory announcements, random, blood-curdling death tolls and a warning that Britain's fleet of ice cream vans will be needed to store all the dead bodies.

But despite their all-out efforts, millions of people across the country have decided to simply wash their hands twice a day and accept that if they do get swine flu the chances of them dying from it are so small as to be really quite tedious.

Nevertheless the department of health will today urge people to empty their freezers, stressing that is where they will have to store their grandmother until the army can collect her and throw her into a landfill.

Meanwhile the Daily Biderberg once again outlined its plans to go into administration after warning its readers that every single one of them would be dead by the end of August.

An editorial in today's edition said: "The department of health is saying one thing and the National Childbirth Trust is saying a different thing. How can that not make you want to rip your ears off in abject terror?"

But Nikki Hollis, a pregnant lady from Stevenage, said: "From what I understand the National Childbirth Trust would like me to continue being pregnant until the pandemic is over, but, as I told a reporter from the Daily Bilderberg, my due date is September 14th.

"And while I am aware of the heightened risks and the possibility of feeling yucky for a couple of days, I am slightly more focused on being about eight weeks away from pushing a human through my vagina."

She added: "That said, I will continue to avoid getting a vaccine, crowded places and wash my hands regularly because I have actually worked out that swine flu is an airborne viral infection and not some sort of ninja."

quoted for teh comedy. great post :D

nosferatu_dj
22-07-2009, 07:44 PM
Ok, I had a thought this morning.

It flashed through my mind how last winter, the company i work for offered flu vaccines to anyone that wanted it.

This thread is about mass vaccines in schools, but what if our workplaces make it mandatory for us to have the jab?

The recession would play as a trump card, as people would much rather take the vaccine than potentially loose their job for not taking it at a time where new jobs are hard to find.

Just a thought i wanted to share.

happy to see someone else pointing this out;)

nosferatu_dj
22-07-2009, 08:44 PM
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=1137940

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rhn4i-PLapc

have re-recorded to get sound up on this

ok so it is 4:00am and i am watching the
AMA President, Dr Andrew Pesce: Speech to National Press Club

i realy could have done without knowing this info... as if what we allready know is bad enuf now we have to worry about the FLU becoming SARS VIRUS!!!!

also talks about how the swine flu is not a killer..
it is just as bad as the NORMAL FLU!

then goes onto say how it is targeting aboriginals... sick people... old people... those with low imune systems.

deca
23-07-2009, 04:35 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/jul/22/glaxosmithkline-swine-flu-vaccine


* Business
* GlaxoSmithKline

Drugs giant GlaxoSmithKline predicts swine flu gold rush

* Buzz up!
* Digg it

* Richard Wachman
* guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 22 July 2009 20.28 BST
* Article history

Britain's biggest pharmaceutical company is preparing to sell £3bn worth of swine flu drugs this year, it emerged today.

GlaxoSmithKline revealed its vaccine, one of the world's first, could be available by September after the UK government placed advance orders for 60m doses.

It also disclosed that international governments were stockpiling large supplies of GSK's anti-viral treatment Relenza, which can relieve swine flu symptoms.

Worldwide sales from the two drugs are expected to reach £3bn by January, but the company rejected claims it was exploiting the pandemic – stressing that profits would be much lower once development costs were taken into account.

It also said poorer nations would receive the vaccine for free with 50m doses to be donated to the World Health Organisation. More could follow, depending on demand.

The chief executive, Andrew Witty, said the company had been preparing for a pandemic for the last three-and-a-half years and had spent more than £1bn to ensure its factories could crank up production at short notice. "We don't know how big this deal is going to be, but no-one can say we aren't ready," said Witty. "We are working flat out with governments around the world to come up with a solution."

GlaxoSmithKline has also developed an anti-viral face mask, which is expected to be used by people such as "front line health workers."

Swine flu is thought to have led to the deaths of 31 people in Britain so far and further details of its rapid spread are due to be released by the NHS tomorrow.

The world's first human trials of a swine flu vaccine have begun in Australia, drug company officials said, as the global death toll from the virus rose to 700.

Two biotechnology companies have started injecting adult volunteers in the southern city of Adelaide.

In a sign of how quickly GSK is working to make sure a vaccine is available from September, the company said that "clinical trials will be limited, due to the need to provide the vaccine to governments as quickly as possible.

"Additional studies will therefore be required and conducted after the vaccine is made available."


bunch of bastards.....wounder if they are working on next years vaccine a nice litter earner for them

can relieve swine flu symptoms.
so it doesn`t even cure it? what a rip off

mntruthseeker
23-07-2009, 04:38 AM
Im sure they have perfected this...........they did the trial run in 76 and they like what they see......................so get yourself some MMS, colloidal silver or Vitamin D3 handy......................or anything else you have heard about.

libertad101
23-07-2009, 04:55 AM
...and to think those bastards at Baxter don't live that far from where I live...

elysiumfire
23-07-2009, 10:14 AM
If we take into account the effects of the finacial debacle on the general populace, and the fact that people have lost jobs, have less to spend, or are simply not spending their money on many thing in order to safeguard it against a 'rainy day', we can assume that the pharmaceutical companies have also been hit, but without any recourse to getting any bailout help from the government, perhaps the so-called swine flu pandemic is their way of recouping profit back? This at the expense of a number of deaths, and a lot of sickness?

elixirsoo
23-07-2009, 10:59 AM
"The British company GlaxoSmithKline (GSK) stands to make more than £1.5bn profit (http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/51109,news,swine-flu-drug-giants-line-up-to-profit-from-vaccine-production) this year because of the pandemic threat."

http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/51109,news,swine-flu-drug-giants-line-up-to-profit-from-vaccine-production

alpha
23-07-2009, 11:23 AM
Im sure they have perfected this...........they did the trial run in 76 and they like what they see......................so get yourself some MMS, colloidal silver or Vitamin D3 handy......................or anything else you have heard about.

hi there, i have colloidal silver and vit d3 but whats mms?:)

rise_to_addiction
23-07-2009, 11:56 AM
so get yourself some MMS, colloidal silver or Vitamin D3 handy......................or anything else you have heard about.

So where's the best/safest place to get all this stuff from?

Any links?

Thanks

drhemp
23-07-2009, 12:26 PM
So where's the best/safest place to get all this stuff from?

Any links?

Thanks

Google is your friend (hint: credence).

Also, look at the links of some the advertisers on the front page of www.davidicke.com who supply some these kind of products.

john connor
24-07-2009, 03:29 AM
happy to see someone else pointing this out;)

Your both bang on...last year they had the nurse in for 3 days at work..Local Gov...really pushed it..the year before it was over in half a day...they will make it "terms of contract" mandatory to have the jab...otherwise we will be shown the door...personally wont affect me as Im leaving soon..leaving the UK all together...but I know workers are worried about their jobs as it is...and the scum know they have this card as well as the media fear machine

bicycle
24-07-2009, 01:58 PM
THE number of people who have totally got that swine flu thing is set to explode over the next few days, it was claimed last night.


Within hours of the government replacing England's 30,000 GPs with a website, experts said new cases would rocket, especially as people were now able to tell lies to a computer in return for two weeks off work.

Professor Henry Brubaker, of the Institute for Studies, said: "Now that people are officially diagnosing themselves, it is very likely the number of cases will soon match the exact number of people in the country.

"At that stage we are legally obliged to come up with a new type of 'demic'. I have expressed my support for 'ultra-demic' while my colleague Brian favours 'rama-lama-demic', but he is a huge Little Richard fan."

Emma Bradford, from London, said: "I have definitely got it because my Blackberry said so. I shall be collecting my Tamiflu from the chemist and then taking advantage of a last minute recuperation deal to Menorca."

Tom Logan, from Finsbury Park, said: "I would say I'm about 30% sure I'm not feeling well, but I'm 100% sure that I have just come up with a copper-bottomed reason to extend my summer holidays.

"The website is far too complicated. They should just replace all the symptom related questions with 'would you like two weeks off work?'."

He added: "Obviously you don't have to take the pills, but from what my Blackberry tells me there can be some really freaky side effects. I've decided to mix mine with schnapps and Dubonnet and resurface towards the end of August."

Meanwhile a doubling of the number of actual swine flu cases in the last week has led doctors to believe it may be some sort of infectious disease.

A British Medical Association spokesman said: "It does now seem to be spreading from person to person, much like a typical virus, which certainly puts paid to our theory that it's caused by bad dreams."

dangermouse
24-07-2009, 05:30 PM
THE number of people who have totally got that swine flu thing is set to explode over the next few days, it was claimed last night.


Within hours of the government replacing England's 30,000 GPs with a website, experts said new cases would rocket, especially as people were now able to tell lies to a computer in return for two weeks off work.

Professor Henry Brubaker, of the Institute for Studies, said: "Now that people are officially diagnosing themselves, it is very likely the number of cases will soon match the exact number of people in the country.

"At that stage we are legally obliged to come up with a new type of 'demic'. I have expressed my support for 'ultra-demic' while my colleague Brian favours 'rama-lama-demic', but he is a huge Little Richard fan."

Emma Bradford, from London, said: "I have definitely got it because my Blackberry said so. I shall be collecting my Tamiflu from the chemist and then taking advantage of a last minute recuperation deal to Menorca."

Tom Logan, from Finsbury Park, said: "I would say I'm about 30% sure I'm not feeling well, but I'm 100% sure that I have just come up with a copper-bottomed reason to extend my summer holidays.

"The website is far too complicated. They should just replace all the symptom related questions with 'would you like two weeks off work?'."

He added: "Obviously you don't have to take the pills, but from what my Blackberry tells me there can be some really freaky side effects. I've decided to mix mine with schnapps and Dubonnet and resurface towards the end of August."

Meanwhile a doubling of the number of actual swine flu cases in the last week has led doctors to believe it may be some sort of infectious disease.

A British Medical Association spokesman said: "It does now seem to be spreading from person to person, much like a typical virus, which certainly puts paid to our theory that it's caused by bad dreams."
and could also sell the tamiflu for a few quid .. :D .. ooh yeh its inventory at work next week .. i think i feel a fever commin on ^^

jamston
25-07-2009, 11:04 PM
Did have a search and couldnt see it posted elsewhere. I cant decide if its blatant fear mongering and its not going to kill the millions they reckon or they've giving the game away, they KNOW millions are going to die and theyre really not sure to do with the all the bodies.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1202048/Hospitals-overflow-swine-flu-victims.html

Council considers using 19th century catacombs to store bodies of swine flu victims

By Jenny Hope and Graham Smith
Last updated at 12:16 PM on 25th July 2009


A council is considering using 19th century underground burial chambers to store the bodies of swine flu victims if the outbreak worsens.

Exeter City Council has identified the empty catacombs, currently used as a tourist attraction, as a potential mortuary.

A council spokesman said it could turn to the plan if the crematorium and cemeteries could not keep up with funeral demands.

He said: 'We have some empty catacombs in an old cemetery in the city. These are 19th century underground burial chambers which are normally a tourist attraction.

'They can, however, be safely used for their original purpose and allow us to temporarily store bodies in the remote possibility that the need should arise.'

It emerged last night that Sainsbury's is to opt out of distributing Tamiflu for fear of encouraging infectious swine flu victims into its shops.

Tesco and Asda have signed up some of their pharmacies as collection points for people needing the antiviral drug.

But a Sainsbury’s spokesman said: ‘A supermarket with thousands of daily visitors is not a suitable collection point.

Meanwhile a 'technical glitch' across Yorkshire yesterday left people visiting the Government's new pandemic website seeking Tamiflu being erroneously directed to collection points up to 73miles away.

Doctors last night warned that the swine flu pandemic could overwhelm hospital intensive care beds, especially in children’s units.

Demand for critical care beds could hugely outstrip supply at the peak of the epidemic, expected in the next few months.

The pressure on the NHS was dramatically highlighted by the plight of Sharon Pentleton, 26, fighting for her life in a Stockholm hospital where she was flown because of a lack of specialist NHS beds.

Experts warn that as the pandemic peaks, facilities for children are likely to become ‘quickly exhausted’.

Parents around the country have struggled to buy a thermometer as High Street pharmacies run out of stocks. A fever of 38c/100.4f is a key sign of swine flu.

Across the whole of England, demand for beds could be 60 per cent above the number available, with hospitals on the South-East coast, in the South-West, East of England and East Midlands likely to be worst hit, with demand outstripping supply by 130 per cent in some areas.

Intensive care specialists are particularly concerned because the NHS already operates to capacity in intensive care most days even without a pandemic.

The UK has fewer intensive care beds per head – just 4.5 per 100,000 people – than most other European countries, the U.S. and Canada.

Although the NHS has plans to set up temporary facilities and cancel routine hospital surgery, it is feared demand for beds and specialist ventilator equipment for victims finding it difficult to breathe unaided will still outstrip supply.

Official figures show the numbers infected doubled in a week to 100,000 new cases, with some 840 in hospital including 63 in intensive care.

At least 26 people in England and four people in Scotland are believed to have died, some with no underlying health conditions.

A report from experts in intensive care and anaesthesia from the University of Cambridge, the Intensive Care Society and St George’s Healthcare NHS Trust in London spells out the spiralling burden being placed on the Health Service in England by swine flu.

They predict demand for 2,030 adult critical care beds will soar to 130 per cent above supply in South East coast towns and almost as much in other areas.

They claim there are 265 paediatric beds – the Health Department says the figure is 364 – yet the demand from seriously ill children could be three times higher, it is estimated.

Older children might have to go into adult critical care units to relieve the pressure, says a report in the journal Anaesthesia.

Researcher Dr Ari Ercole, from Cambridge University, said hospitals faced ‘massive excess demand even if the pandemic lasted an optimistic 12 weeks’.

He said: ‘Paediatric intensive care facilities for children under 15 would be quickly exhausted, as they make up 10 per cent of current provision but could face 30 per cent of the demand for pandemic-related beds.

‘Early experience of the present strain suggests that the attack rate is particularly high in the young and that this virus may severely compromise the immune systems of people who contract it.’

It emerged yesterday that some swine flu victims are being hit by rare complications, which destroy the lung tissue. Patients need specialist ventilator care for several weeks.

Ventilator capacity would be stretched, with some areas having 20 per cent more patients than they can care for.

Professor David Menon, one of the authors from the University of Cambridge, said the figures used in the research could be conservative. It was possible four times as many patients would be admitted to hospital as suggested, of whom about half would need intensive care.

Between 10 per cent and 50 per cent of patients in intensive care with swine flu were suffering renal failure and requiring kidney support.

Dr Jonathan Handy, an anaesthetist from the Chelsea and Westminster Hospital in London, writing in the same journal, said immediate action was needed for a ‘worst case’ scenario.

This included stockpiling supplies and looking at how medical students could play an active role in patient care.

A spokesman for the Department of Health said: ‘The issue of critical care has been considered as part of planning for a pandemic.

‘Trusts have advised that, in the event of a flu widespread outbreak, they estimate that they could double their critical care capacity for ventilated patients.

‘This would be done by invoking their escalation procedures, which include cancelling elective procedures and redeploying staff.’

Immigration officials and health workers at Heathrow and other port authorities have been told to look out for signs of swine flu among passengers, it emerged last night.

The Home Office has told staff employed at Heathrow, as well as other airports and shipping ports across the country, to be on the look-out for the virus and to report any potential cases.

Earlier this month British Airways and Virgin announced that passengers showing symptoms of swine flu would not be allowed to fly.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1202048/Hospitals-overflow-swine-flu-victims.html#ixzz0MJ6pRZPW

beldazar
25-07-2009, 11:21 PM
Jamston, its to frighten people into begging for the vaccine.

rodin
25-07-2009, 11:32 PM
Hammer horror

steevo
25-07-2009, 11:32 PM
Jamston, its to frighten people into begging for the vaccine.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01450/katie-collins_1450318c.jpg
And when we ALL start doing this, then the PTB know that we have become sufficiently brainwashed.
I was at manchester airport recently, and the only people wearing masks like those in the picture were chinese/japanese looking people. They really looked brainwashed.

beldazar
25-07-2009, 11:43 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01450/katie-collins_1450318c.jpg
And when we ALL start doing this, then the PTB know that we have become sufficiently brainwashed.
I was at manchester airport recently, and the only people wearing masks like those in the picture were chinese/japanese looking people. They really looked brainwashed.

wow, I hope there never comes a day when I see anyone in a mask :eek:

jamston
25-07-2009, 11:55 PM
wow, I hope there never comes a day when I see anyone in a mask :eek:

Its happening in lots of places around britain apparently, mainly in the chinese communities though.

and beldazar, iwas erring on the side of scaremongering. But you never know ... they could use it for a mass cull still

arty2000
26-07-2009, 01:12 AM
let go of the fear:)

frase
26-07-2009, 01:34 AM
haha
Im not scared at all about this.
The only time I do get scared is when I come on this forum and read that TPTB are planning to cull the wordl population induscriminately...
Bring it on.
i got plenty of oranges and Vitamin D.

drhemp
26-07-2009, 02:15 AM
I went to Tokyo last year and quite a lot of people were wearing masks, but Japan is a pretty weird place IMO.

lobito
26-07-2009, 12:47 PM
Check this info.

http://www.fleshandstone.net/healthandsciencenews/1572.html

....
Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius signed the document releasing vaccine and government officials from liability on July 17.

Paul Pennock, a New York plaintiff’s attorney on medical liability cases, doesn’t agree with granting immunity. He told AP: "If you're going to ask people to do this for the common good, then let's make sure for the common good that these people will be taken care of if something goes wrong."
....

Lobito

whitenight639
26-07-2009, 02:38 PM
good info, i think many who are watching the swine flu are aware of this tho.

yozhik
26-07-2009, 02:45 PM
Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius signed the document releasing vaccine and government officials from liability on July 17.



Wow ... what a fantastic precedent!
Can I have some of that?

The "power" to make Godlike decisions, but no responsibility or consequence for those decisions?
Fuck yeah ... I definitely want some of that!

Every politicians wetdream.
Make ANY decision you want in your position of "trusted responsibility" and have zero consequences if you fuck it up.

wasd
26-07-2009, 03:55 PM
I'm kinda new to this so sorry if i got something wrong

Problem - Swine flue
Reaction - Vaccination
Solution - ?

What could the "solution" be?

jesuitsdidit
26-07-2009, 05:56 PM
you will find proof of Genocide / Depopulation through vaccinations
here


Vaccination and Genocide

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74294

or here

FLU will become SARS VIRUS: AMA President Dr Pesce

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74173

theres a lot of info here - about 3 weeks reading i reckon
its a seriously important thread..

arty2000
26-07-2009, 06:06 PM
I'm kinda new to this so sorry if i got something wrong

Problem - Swine flue
Reaction - Vaccination
Solution - ?

What could the "solution" be?

problem=swine flu...manufactured

rection=hyped media reports, false gov reports of pandemic,fear mongering
folks buying into hype pleading for help

solution=vaccine...already in production before hand

jesuitsdidit
26-07-2009, 07:57 PM
T'graph.Professor Davies said that those receiving methadone treatment could be included in the "vulnerable" groups that will be targeted first.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/swine-flu/5912464/Drug-addicts-may-be-given-priority-access-to-swine-flu-vaccine.html


Drug addicts 'may be given priority access to swine flu vaccine'

Drug addicts may be given priority access to the swine flu vaccine under plans being drawn up by the health authorities, it has emerged.


Published: 5:47PM BST 26 Jul 2009

Professor Lindsey Davies, director of the Department of Health's Pandemic Influenza Preparedness unit, said that those suffering from long-term maintenance conditions such as heroin addicts who are receiving methadone treatment could be included in the "vulnerable" groups that will be targeted first.

The revelation will cause controversy at a time when there is increasing public disquiet about the potential effects of swine flu, which claimed 100,000 victims last week alone and has claimed more than 30 lives in this country so far.

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Health Secretary Andy Burnham has warned that hospitals and GP surgeries could be unnecessarily overwhelmed by the "walking well" as concern about the more extreme affects of the flu grows.

This week the Lords science and technology committee is expected to criticise serious defects in the Government's handling of the issue, including its belated setting up of a website and phone hot line for sufferers to call.

A swine flu vaccine is due to arrive in the United Kingdom next month, and half the country's population is scheduled to be inoculated by the end of the year.

The NHS is preparing a list of "vulnerable" groups who will be given priority for the vaccines, including the elderly and diabetic.

Professor Davies, giving evidence to the committee last week, was asked by Conservative former Secretary of State for Wales, Lord Crickhowell, about measures put in place for those with "long-term maintenance conditions", including those on kidney dialysis and drug addicts, in the event of a pandemic.

"We are encouraging, through the guidance, every local NHS organisation to look carefully at these vulnerable people – and all those with long-term conditions come into that," she replied. "The Cabinet Office has recently produced guidance on vulnerable people in emergencies generally, but we are working on something more specific for people with health issues."

The response implied that drug addicts would be included in the vulnerable groups who could be afforded special priority treatment when the vaccine becomes available.

According to figures put before parliament recently, some 131,500 people in England were treated with methadone or a similar substance between 2007 and 2008.

A Department of Health spokesman insisted no decision has yet been made whether to include them in the list of those classed with long-term conditions.

"Professor Davies was talking generally about people who have immune suppressive systems – the actual priority groups are yet to be decided," he said.

ms hope
26-07-2009, 08:09 PM
get out and home educate FAST;)

lobito
26-07-2009, 09:00 PM
It makes sense that the drug addicts are going to be killed first. They will start by the non productive grups, I think the old people and drug addits.

Lobito

blueyonder2012
27-07-2009, 11:09 AM
Dozens fall victim to side effects of swine flu drug

independent | Article (http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/dozens-fall-victim-to-side-effects-of-swine-flu-drug-1762051.html)

UK drugs agency reveals 150 people have reported mild reactions to Tamiflu

The agency that licenses medicines in Britain has received 150 reports of suspected adverse reactions to the Tamiflu treatment for swine flu. The figure was released yesterday as GPs said some patients were choosing not to take the drug because of concern about the possible side effects.

The Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) said the 150 reports received within the UK up until 23 July mention 241 separate side effects, most of which were mild and already recognised as linked with the anti-viral drug. MORE > > > (http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/dozens-fall-victim-to-side-effects-of-swine-flu-drug-1762051.html)

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alpha
27-07-2009, 11:33 AM
ive been doing some research into tamiflu and the side effects are particularly grim for teenagers. i found this in the nz herald.when they tested it in japan alot of the kids developed psychosis and some even committed suicide! there seems to be alot of behavioral side effects with tamiflu in this age group.:mad:

entrainment
27-07-2009, 11:45 AM
SWINE FLU: Exeter catacombs plan for dead
Monday, July 27, 2009, 07:16Comment on this story

BODIES of swine flu victims could be stored in Exeter's historic catacombs under plans being drawn up for the city council.
The 19th-century underground burial chambers, in Bartholomew Street West, are currently a tourist attraction.
The city council has identified the empty catacombs as a potential mortuary and could turn to the plan if the crematorium and cemeteries could not keep up with funeral demands.
A council spokesman said: "The 19th-century underground burial chambers are normally a tourist attraction. However, they can be safely used for their original purpose and allow us to temporarily store bodies in the remote possibility that the need should arise."

http://www.thisisexeter.co.uk/news/SWINE-FLU-Exeter-catacombs-plan-dead/article-1196919-detail/article.html

disorder2k8
27-07-2009, 11:48 AM
Looks like I will get to visit that place afterall then :cool:

alpha
27-07-2009, 12:22 PM
i was watching andrew marrs show on bbc iplayer yesterday and he had a fella on there reviewing the papers and there was this picture of people wearing these masks going to the football and the fella said that he had gone to the football match that the paper was refering to and that he had not seen anyone wearing such masks!!! conclusion? blatent fear mongering!!:mad:

redskywalker
27-07-2009, 12:49 PM
haha
Im not scared at all about this.
The only time I do get scared is when I come on this forum and read that TPTB are planning to cull the wordl population induscriminately...
Bring it on.
i got plenty of oranges and Vitamin D.

well said:D i got some too. oranges and onions say the bells of somethingy blah blah.

take it easy
27-07-2009, 12:54 PM
i saw at least 50 chinese people in masks in cambridge yesterday, i made a "you're all going to die" statement, which they seemed to find quite amusing - then they went into mcdonalds - oh the irony!!

disorder2k8
27-07-2009, 12:56 PM
You should purposely cough and sniffle a lot when you are around people like that ;)

anonymous
27-07-2009, 02:34 PM
I read the thread title as "Council considers using catacombs to store wine.." :o

lobito
27-07-2009, 02:45 PM
More panic, this people are forcing us to take they vacine by fear. The old problem - reaction - solution thing.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1202386/Doctors-face-playing-God-lives-dies-swine-flu-overwhelms-NHS.html#ixzz0MRxxRc17

Lobito

real6
27-07-2009, 04:32 PM
Government Preparing Mass Graves, Martial Law For Swine Flu Pandemic

http://www.prisonplanet.com/government-preparing-mass-graves-martial-law-for-swine-flu-pandemic.html

On March 25, Shepard Ambellas, reporting for Infowars, documented preparation of mass graves at the Department of Veterans Affairs Cemetery in Phoenix, Arizona.

A UK Home Office cabinet committee brought up the specter of the Great Plague and burial pits used during the seventeenth century.

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Ambellas’s story followed a harrowing report by D. H. Williams of the Daily Newscaster in February. Williams reported on revelations of an Indiana county municipal official in the vicinity of Chicago who detailed FEMA and DHS discussions with county officials about the prospect of mass graves and a mass vaccination program.

On March 28, we reported on a large expansion of graves at the Houston National Cemetery in Texas.

Aaron Dykes, reporting for The Jones Report on April 3, detailed how the State of New York Division of Cemeteries sent out “Mass Fatality forms” to cemeteries in that state to collect data about their ability to deal with the high volume of casualties that would occur if their were a flu pandemic or other disaster. “Should a prolonged mass fatality disaster or pandemic flu occur in your community would your cemetery be able to provide temporary or permanent internment space for a significant number of disaster or flu deaths in additional to your current burial services?” the form stated.

In response to the mass grave stories posted on the Infowars and Prison Planet websites, Larry Scott, a self-described Veterans Administration critic, went on the Thom Hart radio program in late March and characterized the stories as “rumor-mongering.” According to Scott, the expansion of graves around in Phoenix was part of a standard upgrade intended to accommodate a record number of veteran deaths. Larry Scott put the number at an astounding 700,000 per year. Other critics have also characterized the stories as preposterous.

And yet, according to an AFP news item, governments are indeed planning for mass graves in response to a flu pandemic. In Exter, England, the city council recently moved to use underground burial chambers, currently a tourist attraction, to store the corpses of swine flu victims if the pandemic worsens. “A council spokesman said the plan could be put into operation if the cemeteries and the crematorium could not keep up with funeral demands.”

The catacombs were constructed in response to a cholera epidemic, which led to the death of 402 people in Exeter between July and October 1832.

In 2006, the UK Home Office announced plans to use mass graves in the event of a widespread pandemic. “According to a confidential report seen by the Sunday Times, 320,000 people in Great Britain could die as a result of a flu pandemic originating from a mutated H5N1 bird flu virus strain.” A cabinet committee brought up the specter of the Great Plague and burial pits used during the seventeenth century.

Earlier this year, Alan Johnson, the British Health Secretary, unveiled the National Pandemic Flu Framework. “Mass graves, inflatable mortuaries, 24-hour cremations and ‘express’ funerals could all be used, government papers show,” the Telegraph reported. “Some scientists say a flu pandemic is now overdue, either from the mutation of the normal human flu virus, or of the H5N1 strain that infects birds.”

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A report issued by the government in Scotland claims a pandemic would force mortuaries, crematoriums and cemeteries “to operate round the clock, with old warehouses, council buildings, refrigerated lorries and specialist inflatable mortuaries being requisitioned to temporarily store the dead,” the Guardian reported on July 22. “With deaths expected to peak sharply within six to seven weeks of an outbreak, crematoriums would in many areas have to operate 24 hours a day, while every town and city would require temporary mortuaries and body storage facilities.”

On July 25, the Los Angeles Times reported the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention expects the flu pandemic expected this autumn to kill hundreds of thousands. “The number of potential deaths is much higher than that usually seen in seasonal flu, which kills an estimated 36,000 Americans a year, and is even higher than the nation’s most recent pandemic.” The 1957 pandemic of Asian flu killed 70,000. The 1918 Spanish Flu claimed between 500,000 to 675,000 lives in the United States.

The CDC announced last week that it will no longer keep track of the number of people killed by the virus. “Health officials from the CDC said the virus was too widespread to continue counting,” the Digital Journal reported. “Health experts say millions have likely been infected worldwide.”

The U.S. government has bought 195 million doses of H1N1 swine flu vaccine for a possible autumn vaccination campaign, a U.S. federal official told Reuters on July 23. The U.S. Health and Human Services Department has also contracted for 120 million doses of adjuvant, a compound to stretch the number of doses of vaccine.

In addition, HHS has created a website “to help state and local governments, the medical community and citizens prepare for H1N1 and the fall flu season,” according to America.gov, a site produced by the U.S. Department of State.

As author F. William Engdahl notes, even though the H1N1 virus has killed a relatively small number of people and no “government or private agency in the world has yet to scientifically isolate, to photograph with means of electron microscopy and to list the chemical characteristics of the ‘novel H1N1 Influenza A virus’ as it is now officially called,” this has not stopped WHO from declaring a “Pandemic Alert” Phase 6 alarm. The hyped “pandemic” has prompted the Obama administration and Congress to approve an astounding $7.65 billion for the non-proven pandemic influenza.

On Friday, the World Health Organization said the H1N1 virus and pandemic is “gaining speed” and will likely strike this coming winter.

In response to an outbreak of swine flu in 1976, the U.S. government ordered a mass vaccination program. The experimental and untested vaccine killed dozens and left an undetermined number of people with Guillian-Barre syndrome, a debilitating neurological paralysis. The vaccine killed more people than the virus.

In late April, sources close to investigative journalist Wayne Madsen reported that the outbreak of swine flu was the result of the introduction of a human-engineered pathogen capable of producing a widespread global pandemic. “A top scientist for the United Nations, who has examined the outbreak of the deadly Ebola virus in Africa, as well as HIV/AIDS victims, concluded that H1N1 possesses certain transmission ‘vectors’ that suggest that the new flu strain has been genetically-manufactured as a military biological warfare weapon,” Madsen reported.

“Our best intelligence estimate is that pandemic Avian Flu has already been created through genetic engineering in the United States, fusing the deadly genome of the 1918 Pandemic, misnamed the ‘Spanish Flu’, with the DNA of the innocuous H5N1 virus in a growth medium of human kidney cells, according to the National Institutes of Health and the vaccine’s manufacturer. Some virologists believe that this would insure that the man-made mutant virus recognizes human cells and knows how to invade them,” writes Rima E. Laibow, MD, head of the Natural Solutions Foundation, a citizen watchdog group monitoring the pharmaceutical industry.

In addition to planning mass graves and crematoriums operating around the clock, governments are planning to implement martial law in response to a pandemic.

In late 2007, the Bush administration issued a “directive” establishing a “National Strategy for Public Health and Medical Preparedness” based on Biodefense for the 21st Century. Prior to this, in May of 2007, the U.S. military had the foresight to “plan for a possible avian flu pandemic that could kill as many as three million people in the United States in as little as six weeks,” according to Yahoo News. Guidelines and “planning assumptions for US military services and combatant commands” were published in a document entitled “Implementation Plan for Pandemic Influenza.”

“Possible scenarios include US troops being called in to put down riots, guard pharmaceutical plants and shipments, and help restrict the movement of people inside the country and across its borders,” Yahoo summarizes. “The plan envisions fast moving, catastrophic waves of disease that would overwhelm health facilities and cripple the ability of state and local authorities to provide even basic commodities or services.”

The “hidden agenda consists in using the threat of a pandemic and/or the plight of a natural disaster as a pretext to establish military rule” and “suspend Constitutional government and allow the Military to intervene in civilian affairs in violation of the Posse Comitatus Act,” author Michel Chossudovsky wrote in 2005.

As Infowars reported last week, on July 27 FEMA will conduct National Level Exercise 2009 (NLE 09), scheduled to run through July 31. NLE 09 will ostensibly focus on “terrorism prevention and protection,” according to the FEMA website. In addition to the participation of domestic “partners,” the FEMA exercise will include foreign troops. “This year the United States welcomes the participation of Australia, Canada, Mexico and the United Kingdom in NLE 09.”

The FEMA website states that “Fire and Emergency Medical Services will play a crucial role in the event of a pandemic. Planning for pandemic influenza is key.”

In Natural Disasters and the Militarization of America, Chossudovsky details how deployment of the military in response to a pandemic “would be governed by the same criteria in conformity with the basic tenets of the ‘war on terrorism.’ The latter also characterize the workings of FEMA…. Under the NRP [Homeland Security's National Response Plan]… civilian organizations are directly under the authority of the DHS, FEMA and the Pentagon.”

In short, martial law will be declared. Is it possible this is what NLE 09 is gearing up for?

ricks1974
27-07-2009, 05:35 PM
Belfast puts extra graves at the ready should swine flu pandemic worsen

By Matthew McCreary
Saturday, 25 July 2009
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Thousands of extra graves could be brought into service across Belfast if the swine flu pandemic should worsen, it has been revealed.

Up to 10,000 burial plots are currently being held in reserve at Roselawn Cemetery after the land was purchased by Belfast City Council for its future grave provision. Currently there is unused space for around 4,000 burials in and around Belfast.

But the extra tract of land at Roselawn could be brought forward for the burial of thousands of corpses in the event that swine flu sweeps across the province.

Belfast city councillor Bob Stoker said disaster plans were already in place even before the swine flu scare.

“The council have for a number of years developed disaster plans for all contingencies, whether aeroplanes fall on the city or there are outbreaks of a disease,” he said. “It’s a disaster emergency plan that cover all eventualities.”

The current burial rate for Belfast’s cemeteries is around 800 people a year. But recent worst-case scenarios have given projected figures as high as 65,000 deaths across the UK as a result of swine flu.

The council is part of a co-ordinated plan which also encompasses the police, fire service and health authorities, all of whom are tasked with keeping basic services operational in case of a disaster.

“We can provide leisure centres if it came to that, as well as the bodies on the ground,” said Mr Stoker.

“If it happens, obviously we expect a lot of our workers to be out with swine flu as well. It’s about keeping the basic services running, waste collections and things like that.“

The total number of swine flu cases in Northern Ireland has reached 58 but there have been no related deaths, the Department of Health has confirmed.


http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/belfast-puts-extra-graves-at-the-ready-should-swine-flu-pandemic-worsen-14430649.html?r=RSS

flox
27-07-2009, 06:15 PM
Aw, damn. I thought I'd escape most of the stuff - apparently not.

mrindigo
27-07-2009, 07:44 PM
Creepy news. My heart goes out to the lovely people of Ireland and the city of Belfast. Lets hope this swine flu business is crushed before those graves are actually used.

wasd
27-07-2009, 07:54 PM
Oh, almost got it right then. Thanks :)

tothestars
27-07-2009, 10:09 PM
ever wondering why the swine flu isnt working as it supposed to ? :)

cruise4
28-07-2009, 07:12 AM
May I suggest you read this thread. Skip the first post perhaps but ensure you read the last post...

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74680

jolinemaria
28-07-2009, 07:40 AM
Sorry, I believe this to be a bad translation but the point is clear.

http://translate.latribune.fr/turl/http-www.latribune.fr/actualites/20090726trib000403897/cette-grippette-n-est-pas-dangereuse-selon-le-pr-bernard-debre.html/fr_en?systranprofile=3



“This grippette is not dangerous”, according to Pr Bernard Debré

Tribune.fr - 7/26/2009 | 10:48

For the professor of medicine and UMP deputy of Paris Bernard Debré, influenza A (H1N1) is not “not dangerous” and the vaccines will be ready only at mid-November, when “the first peak of contamination passes”.
A HEARTH OF INFLUENZA WITH (H1N1) WITH ISSY-LES-MOULINEAUX, CLOSE TO PARIS

According to the professor of medicine Bernard Debré, interviewed this Sunday by the “Sunday newspaper”, influenza A/H1N1 “is not dangerous” and it is useless “to throw into a panic the populations”.

“Everyone had with the spirit the phenomenon of the avian flu, H5N1, which is very dangerous for the man with a death rate from 60% to 65%, but not contagious because it passes the barrier of the species with difficulty.” But this influenza “is not dangerous. One realized that it was perhaps even a little less dangerous than the seasonal flu. Then now, it is necessary to whistle the end of the part! ”, the Pr Debré declared, which is also appointed UMP of Paris.

“In Mexico, the influenza killed because it had just appeared, he explained. Like all the new diseases, against which the body did not produce defense, it reaches very handicapped young people and young people, dénutries, weakened…”

“No another choice to follow WHO”

According to Bernard Debré, “without saying it, the public authorities already started to reduce the aerofoil. The patients, which one does not check besides any more if they caught the H1N1 or a simple head cold, from now on are invited to take paracetamol”, he raises. “That remains a grippette, it is neither Ebola nor Marburg.”

According to him, the governments “did not have really an other choice to only follow”, after the World Health Organization (WHO) had, “in a a little fast way, started to gesticulate, with daily official statements and press conferences with repetition”. But it “reproaches them for having then succumbed to a political surmediatisation of this event.”

“There are 800 cases indexed in France. It is a joke! Will one start to enter the diarrhoeas? ”, he declared.

“It is useless to throw into a panic the populations safe to want to hammer to them, with fine policies, the following message: good folk sleep without fear, we take care on you”, the Pr Debré declared which specifies that he “does not show” the Minister for Roselyne Bachelot Health.

“I do not understand why the State took a firm control of 100 million vaccines.” It is known already that they “will not be ready before November 15th” i.e. “when the first peak of contamination passes”. And “let us admit that the worst occurs”, explained Bernard Debré, is one certain that the ordered vaccines will be effective? Not.”



Mexico, hearth of the epidemic, count a new peak of the contaminations

Mexico - the world hearth of flu epidemic A (H1N1) - had declared the first cases of the disease in April. The current assessment gives a report on 138 deaths. Whereas the country started to breathe, the cases of contamination took again in July in the south-east of the country, in Chiapas, area where agricultural communities and tourist sites mix with and where an important traffic of clandestine immigrants from Central America prevails to pass to the United States. According to the ministry for Health, 100 to 130 new cases per day were listed at mid-July, but the local authorities, less pessimistic did not impose restrictions on the public activities.

latribune.fr

jolinemaria
28-07-2009, 07:51 AM
Yep, it can go any way.
All possibilities are open.
Nothing would surprise me.

But I believe you leave out one thing.
Have vaccines ever really protected us?
I'd say no.
So why would there be one now that does the job?

Only protection is our own immune system.
Everything we need is provided for by nature.
We need not 'improve' on nature to protect ourselves.

cruise4
28-07-2009, 07:59 AM
This thread moving is becoming REALLY suss!

ozpixie
28-07-2009, 08:08 AM
I am not having any more vaccines. End of story. This is not because of things I have read here but because 8 years ago I become chronically ill with systemic Rheumatoid Arthritis which started about a fortnight after I had my first dose of Havrix. (Hep B). Not only have my joints become diseased but my adrenal glands have packed up and I periodically bleed in my eyes, my heart rhthym is affected and my body can no longer hold onto any Vitamin B. Then I developed an allergic asthma. As time progressed I became increasingly sensitive to foods and everyday items that had never been a problem. I have aged incredibly fast and some people I havent seen in recent years don't recognise me. At first I did not understand what caused it. They tell you to have to have three shots to make sure your so-called immunity is established. By then the vaccine has sent the auto-immune system into total overdrive and you are left feeling completely wrecked. Right now I am taking steps to detox my body and try to repair some of the damage done. TPTB will only give me a flu shot if they combine it with a bullet.

pinkgrapefruit
28-07-2009, 05:13 PM
The BBC may have to clear its schedules for hours of educational programmes if schools are forced to close due to swine flu.

Ministers have drawn up 'contingency plans' in case the pandemic worsens and hundreds of thousands of pupils are kept at home next term.

This could include the corporation stepping in to screen educational programmes, alongside online national curriculum-based material such as from online site BBC Bitesize.

The Department for Children, Schools and Families has previously said that while it expects schools and nurseries to re-open as usual in September, it 'cannot be certain what the situation will be'. Some closures may be possible.

Chris Keates, general secretary of the National Association of Schoolmasters/Union of Women Teachers, confirmed that the Government drew up contingency plans for schools 18 months ago.

She said: 'There were detailed discussions putting in a range of contingency plans of what would happen in various scenarios around a flu pandemic including if there was widespread closure of schools.

'One of them was consideration of online learning supplemented by organisations like the BBC and [digital channel] Teachers TV actually being asked to include in their schedules programmes that would support pupils' learning at home.

'As the situation in September is being kept constantly under review, the latest information we had from the Department was that they were in talks with those providers about what kind of service could be offered.'

It was reported today that ministers are considering invoking an emergency clause in the BBC's agreements which states that in the case of an emergency the Government has the power to make the BBC broadcast another announcement or programme than that scheduled.

BBC sources had said that the clause did not give the Government the right to direct programming and claimed the move would be 'tantamount to a government takeover'.

However, a BBC spokeswoman said the broadcaster has a 'strong role' to play in providing information and health advice during the pandemic.

The spokeswoman said that in the event of school closures, the BBC website would have the 'most important' role for school children.

Miss Keates added: 'My understanding is that the Government is trying to get everyone to co-operate and work together. No discussion with us has implied in any way that the Government is contemplating forcing anyone to participate.'

The BBC already has a range of educational material for different ages, including BBC Bitesize which covers all four key stages and is twinned with the national curriculum. It currently has up to 1.5million users a week.

The spokeswoman added: 'Throughout the year, the BBC always looks carefully at its available audiences and, as with holiday periods for example, it may be appropriate to run a similar schedule for children depending on how long the schools are closed.

'Whilst it would be impractical to make new educational TV programmes in the time available, we would look at whether programmes of an educational or informative nature could interest children who are not at school.'

A DCSF spokesman insisted there was no suggestion they would ever 'force' an organisation to assist in delivering education.

He added: 'In our contingency plans, we are looking at a range of options that could include working with various media agencies.

'As far as I know the BBC has a huge amount of material available on demand. But the idea of bringing in some draconian power to force them to switch all channels over to lessons isn't going to happen.

'In 100 years, we have never once used this power and we don't intend to use it now.'

So Chris Keates has confirmed that the Government drew up contingency plans for schools 18 months ago. Blimey, they are very smart our Government, how on earth did they predict such an event?

It's also good to know that the Government has the power to make the BBC broadcast propaganda on their behalf, that's a relief to me as I'd hate the BBC to start a riot by telling people exactly what is going on.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1202723/BBC-forced-screen-lessons-swine-flu-shuts-schools.html

surfer91
29-07-2009, 02:36 AM
THE need for a “mass mortuary” in the city is unlikely in the event of a major swine flu outbreak, health officials have insisted.
Both Devon Primary Care Trust and Exeter City Council have moved to play down fears after it emerged that plans had been drawn up to use the city’s ancient catacombs as a site for a temporary mortuary.
A council spokesman said the measure would only be necessary in the “worst case scenario”.
“The plans were made if the city’s cemeteries were unable to keep up with funeral demands,” said the spokesman.
“The empty chambers had been identified as a potential mortuary over other sites due to their size.
“Planning for the worst-case scenario is the responsibility of the Devon, Cornwall and Isles of

"The local council must know something we dont"

steevo
29-07-2009, 02:40 AM
Why dont Councillors EVER query the role of the bio-weapons laboratories/pharmaceutical companies in relation to the the release of this swine flu virus ? :mad:
It's a rhetorical question.

windeyaho
29-07-2009, 05:27 AM
Pipsicle: excellant link, THANK YOU


"All the warnings, from the naturopathic movement, on the fundamental dangers of vaccines, antibiotics and the rest; all the attempts to explain that germs are a result, not a cause, of disease; that asepsis – cleanliness, not antisepsis – was needed; the pleas that a strong constitution and immune system – the product of fresh, organic fruit and veg. etc, – would deal with the ‘infective agents’ – all ignored, ridiculed, laughed at.

Now, Nemesis is at the gate and She is in a very bad mood." YES, I AM:mad:

My parents knew over 60 yrs ago that vaccinations were not a good idea. I wasn't accosted with them. I sat next to a kid in my class who broke out with chicken pox - never got it. I had mumps, measles and bouts of strep throat. Too bad I had my tonsils out(they are a part of your immune system) because I found out that most of my troubles with them were sinus drainage due to allergy NOT actual infection IN them as I was told.

Now I wage war on the lies that are perpetrated on us. Dentist won't believe me -brainwashed and making money on it. Doctor won't believe me - wants the ins. money. Nurse-practitioner: hit the nail on the head, figured out my problem, said I wasn't sick with a "bug" but that I was reacting to an allergen and that the reaction was causing the problems. All this time I've been getting gallons of antibiotics. She said "you don't NEED them and they won't do you any good". Smart lady. . . .

anthony65
29-07-2009, 10:54 AM
This article contains some good information.

It exposes the past blunders (crimes) of the vaccine producers, shows the flu hysteria to be out of proportion to the risk and categorically recommends not to take the vaccine!

http://www.newsmax.com/health/vaccine_swine_flu/2009/07/07/232717.html?s=al&promo_code=8441-1

Vaccine May Be More Dangerous Than Swine Flu

Tuesday, July 7, 2009 9:54 AM

By: Dr. Russell Blaylock Article Font Size

An outbreak of swine flu occurred in Mexico this spring that eventually affected 4,910 Mexican citizens and resulted in 85 deaths. By the time it spread to the United States, the virus caused only mild cases of flu-like illness.

Thanks to air travel and the failure of public health officials to control travel from Mexico, the virus spread worldwide. Despite predictions of massive numbers of deaths and the arrival of doomsday, the virus has remained a relatively mild disease, something we know happens each year with flu epidemics.

Worldwide, there have only been 311 deaths out of 70,893 cases of swine flu. In the United States, 27,717 cases have resulted in 127 deaths. Every death is a tragedy, but such a low death rate should not be the basis of a draconian government policy.

It is helpful to recall that the Centers for Disease Control with the collusion of the media, constantly tell us that 36,000 people die from the flu each year, a figure that has been shown to be a lie. In this case, we are talking about 300 plus deaths for the entire world.

This virus continues to be an enigma for virologists. In the April 30, 2009 issue of Nature, a virologist was quoted as saying,“Where the hell it got all these genes from we don’t know.” Extensive analysis of the virus found that it contained the original 1918 H1N1 flu virus, the avian flu virus (bird flu), and two new H3N2 virus genes from Eurasia. Debate continues over the possibility that swine flu is a genetically engineered virus.

Naturally, vaccine manufacturers have been in a competitive battle to produce the first vaccine. The main contenders have been Baxter Pharmaceuticals and Novartis Pharmaceuticals, the latter of which recently acquired the scandal-ridden Chiron vaccine company. Both of these companies have had agreements with the World Health Organization to produce a pandemic vaccine.

The Baxter vaccine, called Celvapan, has had fast track approval. It uses a new vero cell technology, which utilizes cultured cells from the African green monkey. This same animal tissue transmits a number of vaccine-contaminating viruses, including the HIV virus.

The Baxter company has been associated with two deadly scandals. The first event occurred in 2006 when hemophiliac components were contaminated with HIV virus and injected in tens of thousands of people, including thousands of children. Baxter continued to release the HIV contaminated vaccine even after the contamination was known.

The second event occurred recently when it was discovered that Baxter had released a seasonal flu vaccine containing the bird flu virus, which would have produced a real world pandemic, to 18 countries. Fortunately, astute lab workers in the Czech Republic discovered the deadly combination and blew the whistle before a worldwide disaster was unleashed.

Despite these two deadly events, WHO maintains an agreement with Baxter Pharmaceuticals to produce the world’s pandemic vaccine.

Novartis, the second contender, also has an agreement with WHO for a pandemic vaccine. Novartis appears to have won the contract, since their vaccine is near completion. What is terrifying is that these pandemic vaccines contain ingredients, called immune adjuvants that a number of studies have shown cause devastating autoimmune disorders, including rheumatoid arthritis, multiple sclerosis and lupus.

Animal studies using this adjuvant have found them to be deadly. A study using 14 guinea pigs found that when they were injected with the special adjuvant, only one animal survived. A repeat of the study found the same deadly outcome.

So, what is this deadly ingredient? It is called squalene, a type of oil. The Chiron company, maker of the deadly anthrax vaccine, makes an adjuvant called MF-59 which contains an ingredient of serious concern--squalene. A number of studies have shown that squalene can trigger all of the above-mentioned autoimmune diseases when injected.

The MF-59 adjuvant has been used in several vaccines. These vaccines, including tetanus and diphtheria, are the same vaccines frequently associated with adverse reactions.

I reviewed a number of studies on this adjuvant and found something quite interesting. Several studies done on human test subjects found MF-59 to be a very safe immune adjuvant. But when I checked to see who did these studies, I found—to no surprise—that they were done by the Novartis Pharmaceutical Company and Chiron Pharmaceutical Company, which have merged. They were all published in “prestigious” medical journals. Also, to no surprise, a great number of studies done by independent laboratories and research institutions all found a strong link between MF-59 and autoimmune diseases.

Squalene in vaccines has been strongly linked to the Gulf War Syndrome. On August 1991, Anthony Principi, Secretary of Veterans Affairs admitted that soldiers vaccinated with the anthrax vaccine from 1990 to 1991 had an increased risk of 200 percent in developing the deadly disease amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), also called Lou Gehrig’s disease. The soldiers also suffered from a number of debilitating and life-shortening diseases, such as polyarteritis nodosa, multiple sclerosis (MS), lupus, transverse myelitis (a neurological disorder caused by inflammation of the spinal cord), endocarditis (inflammation of the heart’s inner lining), optic neuritis with blindness and glomerulonephritis (a type of kidney disease).

Because squalene, the main ingredient in MF-59, can induce hyperimmune responses and induce autoimmunity, a real danger exists for prolonged activation of the brain’s immune cells, the microglia. This type of prolonged activation has been strongly associated with such diseases as multiple sclerosis, Alzheimer’s disease, Parkinson’s disease, ALS and possibly vaccine-related encephalitis. It has been shown that activation of the systemic immune system, as occurs with vaccination, rapidly activates the brain’s microglia at the same time, and this brain inflammation can persist for long periods.

What most people do not know, even the doctors who recommend the vaccines, is that most studies by pharmaceutical companies observe the patients for only one to two weeks following vaccination—these types of reactions may take months or even years to manifest.

It is obvious that the vaccine manufacturers stand to make billions of dollars in profits from this WHO/government-promoted pandemic. Novartis, the maker of the new pandemic vaccine, recently announced that they would not give free vaccines to impoverished nations—everybody pays.

One must keep in mind that once the vaccine is injected, there is little you can do to protect yourself—at least by conventional medicine. It will mean a lifetime of crippling illness and early death.

There are much safer ways to protect oneself from this flu virus, such as higher doses of vitamin D3, selective immune enhancement using supplements, and a good diet.

budgeebird
29-07-2009, 11:11 AM
Gotta ask the mods to sticky this thread. Very good and balanced reading, even for skeptics and sheeple. I'm gonna be forwarding it to everyone...

-budgee

poshrat
29-07-2009, 01:28 PM
Please check out my findings on this thread which ties in well with this.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1154606#post1154606

jaggysnake
29-07-2009, 02:08 PM
wow, this thread has really made me think twice. I always take more notice when an article is in a relatively mainstream site or paper.

gilly
29-07-2009, 02:23 PM
I'll merge this with the existing sticky. :)

ennui
29-07-2009, 03:17 PM
Two-dose H1N1 vaccines appear to be designed to disable the immune system and load a live virus in a process mirroring the one described in two WHO 1972 memos that technically outline turning vaccines into killers. A Strecker memo reveals that the WHO has been actively searching for ways to weaken the immune system according to Burgermeister (http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14475).

real6
29-07-2009, 03:51 PM
I'll merge this with the existing sticky. :)

Thanks, i was half asleep last night writing that message on my itouch and guess i pressed the wrong button. Hahahahahaha





http://www.prisonplanet.com/military-to-work-with-fema-during-swine-flu-outbreak.html

According to a CNN report, the military will assist civilian authorities in the event of a significant swine flu outbreak in the U.S. this fall, stoking fears that the pandemic, which has claimed relatively few lives so far, will be used as an excuse to implement martial law and a mandatory vaccination program.

“The plan calls for military task forces to work in conjunction with the Federal Emergency Management Agency. There is no final decision on how the military effort would be manned, but one source said it would likely include personnel from all branches of the military,” states the report.

The proposal, which was drawn up by U.S. Northern Command’s Gen. Victor Renuart, is awaiting final approval from Defense Secretary Robert Gates. The first step would be to sign an “execution order” which would authorize the military to begin detailed planning on how to implement the proposal, before actual orders to deploy military personnel are given.

The amount of troops required or whether they would come from the active duty or the National Guard and Reserve forces has not yet been determined.

Northcom has been preparing for mass flu pandemics for years and indeed, Gen. Victor Renuart spoke of the threat of a flu pandemic emerging out of Mexico just weeks before it actually happened.

Testifying back in March, Renuart said Northcom would provide “assistance in support of civil authorities” during an epidemic, adding “when requested and approved by the Secretary of Defense or directed by the President, federal military forces will contribute to federal support.” However, Renuart then added, “USNorthCom does not wait for that call to action.”

“Because Mexico is our neighbor and disasters do not respect national boundaries, we are focused on developing and improving procedures to respond to potentially catastrophic events such as pandemic influenza outbreak, mass exposure to dangerous chemicals and materials, and natural disasters,” he testified.

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Northcom was only relatively recently assigned its own fighting unit – the Army’s 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team, which had been fighting in Iraq for five years before that. As we have previously reported, the Armed Forces Press Service has initiated a propaganda campaign designed to convince the American people that deploying the 3rd Infantry Division in the United States in violation of the Posse Comitatus Act is a good thing, with images of soldiers from the brigade helping in “humanitarian” rescue missions, such as car wrecks. This is all designed to condition Americans to accept troops on the streets and highways as a part of everyday life.

The assignment of the 1st Brigade Combat Team to Northcom alarmed the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU). “This is a radical departure from separation of civilian law enforcement and military authority and could, quite possibly, represent a violation of law,” said Mike German, ACLU national security policy counsel.

The news that troops are being prepared to work with FEMA in the event of a swine flu pandemic will increase fears that the government is preparing to enforce a mandatory vaccination program – at gunpoint if necessary.

State health authorities have already confirmed that if the government were to announce a mandatory vaccination program, then there would be no exemptions whatsoever and the program could be carried out with the use of force if necessary.

As reported by CNS News earlier this month, a health-care reform bill approved by the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pension Committee called The Affordable Health Choices Act, will fund the creation of state “intervention” teams that will carry out home visits in order to check that both children and adults have been vaccinated and also provide “provision of immunizations”.

“Home visits? What exactly is the state going to do when it sends people to “implement interventions” in private homes designed “to improve immunization coverage of children”? asks the CNS report.

There can be little doubt that many Americans will call upon their second amendment rights and resort to using force to protect themselves and their children if the government attempts to forcibly impose a mass vaccination program. This is why the assistance of military personnel may be necessary to subdue potential resistors in the event of mandatory quarantines and inoculations.

The last time the the national guard and military worked with FEMA and local law enforcement on a large scale in the United States was during Hurricane Katrina, when they aided in the confiscation of privately owned firearms of citizens, even those who lived in the high and dry areas and were unaffected by the hurricane.

dude111
29-07-2009, 03:59 PM
The logical conclusion is that administering the vaccine is more important than controlling the spread.

That speaks volumes to me.....Exactly......

They have everyone scared and ready to get this crap that who knows what it will do....

sukyspook
29-07-2009, 05:36 PM
Breaking news!!!!

Swine flu transmittable via eye contact!!!!

(rofl, lol, lmao lololololol):

http://www.youtube.com/user/cveitch

cleopatraxxx
29-07-2009, 05:52 PM
Two-dose H1N1 vaccines appear to be designed to disable the immune system and load a live virus in a process mirroring the one described in two WHO 1972 memos that technically outline turning vaccines into killers. A Strecker memo reveals that the WHO has been actively searching for ways to weaken the immune system according to Burgermeister (http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14475).

and here is the source http://www.naturalnews.com/026723_health_vaccines_immune_system.html

" Three-stage vaccinations may create perfect cytokine storm

The vaccine is to be given by a series of three injections. Speaking on the Republic Broadcasting Network with Dr. Rebecca Carley as host on July 11th, meta-analyst and vaccine researcher Patrick Jordan reported belief that the first injection will be for the purpose of turning off the victim's immune system. The second injection will be for the purpose of loading people with deadly organisms. And the third injection will be to turn the immune system back on for the purpose of creating a cytokine storm that will deal a lethal blow to the body.

In his chronicle of the connection between vaccines and death, Jordan pointed out that in 1915 the pertussis vaccine became available and was widely given. This bacterial poison from whopping cough, called pertussis coxon, so depresses the immune system that it is used in laboratories today to turn off nutrafils and reduce white blood cell counts. Then, in 1918, soldiers who had received the pertussis vaccine were deployed to Europe, where they were given another unknown vaccine. They were then exposed to a Lucite gas, which is an arsenic compound, and phosgenegas, a chlorine compound. As a result, their immune systems kicked in with a cytokine storm that killed many of the otherwise healthy young men. This is the 1,2,3 punch Jordan is warning will come again with the "swine flu" vaccinations.

We have been conditioned to think of external microbes as our enemy during a time of influenza. But our own immune systems are potentially more lethal. When the body detects foreign microorganisms indicating an infection, it can respond by overprotecting the site of that infection. In its hurry to get antibodies to the infection site, the body may dispatch so many that the level of cytokines becomes highly elevated, creating a cytokine storm that can be fatal. For example, during a lung infection, a cytokine storm can potentially block airways and result in suffocation. (What is a Cytokine Storm, www.wisegeek.com)

Jordan continued by painting a picture outlined in the WHO Memorandum Number 1 with a study that found virus infections make antibody and antigen complexes. These complexes can clog blood vessels or implant tissue, making the body eventually attack itself. The main focus of this study was kidney disease. Animals with induced immune system deficiency were infected with lethal virus until every single cell in their bodies reflected the disease. But for a time these animals ran around like there was nothing wrong with them because their immune system was so depressed that it was making no effort to fight the disease, and there was no immune response. The WHO experimenters then took their lab animals and stimulated the cell-mediated immune response, and the animals died immediately from their bodies attacking themselves in the kind of cytokine storm associated with the 1918 Spanish flu.

Even if this described scenario does not develop, Jordan points out that the current "swine flu" vaccine is made with an adjuvant that may contain a material poison, salmonella, or typhoid fever toxin, along with squalene. Although not known with certainty, the second round of injections given to the soldiers in 1918 is believed to have contained typhus. Squalene produces auto-immunity and eventually death in everyone who takes it.

Squalene contributed to the cascade reactions known as Gulf War Syndrome that left GIs with arthritis, fibromyalgia, lymphadenopathy, photosensitive rashes, chronic fatigue, chronic headaches, ulcers, dizziness, weakness, memory loss, seizures, mood changes, neuro-psychiatric problems, multiple sclerosis, lupus, and other diseases."

dainis bophary
29-07-2009, 08:24 PM
Who should get the swine flu vaccine?
Robert Colvile reveals the ethical dilemma facing the Government over the coming months.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/personal-view/5934247/Who-should-get-the-swine-flu-vaccine.html

illuminumnuts
30-07-2009, 04:35 AM
Yeah, I love the way they are trying to sell it. Make sheeple think they might be missing out on something and they might want it. When their turn in the queue comes it's:

'Aren't you lucky, we do have just enough left for you.' :rolleyes:

john connor
30-07-2009, 09:56 AM
Military Poised to Help FEMA Battle Swine Flu Outbreak

The Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices voted to set vaccination priorities for certain groups Wednesday during a meeting in Atlanta as the Pentagon prepares to help the Federal Emergency Management Agency tackle a potential outbreak of the H1N1 virus this fall.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/29/military-poised-help-fema-battle-swine-flu-outbreak/

solarwindspirit
30-07-2009, 10:15 AM
They need military for a flu outbreak. . .isn't that a little overkill. . .no pun intended

positivity
30-07-2009, 01:13 PM
looks like there really pushing the vaccine in america!!






http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Swine-Flu-UK-And-US-Health-Authorities-Recommend-Different-Approaches-For-Pregnant-Women/Article/200907415348857?lpos=World_News_Third_Home_Page_Ar ticle_Teaser_Region__5&lid=ARTICLE_15348857_Swine_Flu%3A_UK_And_US_Health _Authorities_Recommend_Different_Approaches_For_Pr egnant_Women

keystone
30-07-2009, 01:17 PM
looks like there really pushing the vaccine in america!!Tamiflu isn't a vaccine.

Cheers

Anders Lindman
30-07-2009, 01:18 PM
Pregnant women getting vaccinated? :confused: I guess they want to start early. Can't wait until the baby is born, now can they? :rolleyes:

Swine Flu Jab

http://dailyfunnystuff.blogsome.com/images/hillary_baby.jpg

Anders Lindman
30-07-2009, 01:23 PM
http://www.drybonesproject.com/blog/D09426_3.gif

positivity
30-07-2009, 01:25 PM
Pregnant women getting vaccinated? :confused: I guess they want to start early. Can't wait until the baby is born, now can they? :rolleyes:

Swine Flu Jab

http://dailyfunnystuff.blogsome.com/images/hillary_baby.jpg

haha i love that picture:D:D

john connor
30-07-2009, 01:51 PM
NaturalNews) -- Executives from Baxter, Novartis, Glaxo-Smith Kline, and Sanofi Pasteur have seats at the advisory group that on July 13th recommended mandatory H1N1 vaccination of everyone in all 194 countries that belong to the World Health Organization (WHO), according to a report just issued by journalist Jane Burgermeister. WHO spokesperson Alphaluck Bhatiasevi confirmed that Dr. Margaret Chan did not give the press briefing at WHO headquarters in Geneva as anticipated. At short notice, Dr. Marie-Paule Kieny stepped in to announce that "vaccines will be needed in all countries

more

http://www.rense.com/general86/offc.htm

angelx666
30-07-2009, 06:45 PM
Military Poised to Help FEMA Battle Swine Flu Outbreak

The Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices voted to set vaccination priorities for certain groups Wednesday during a meeting in Atlanta as the Pentagon prepares to help the Federal Emergency Management Agency tackle a potential outbreak of the H1N1 virus this fall.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/29/military-poised-help-fema-battle-swine-flu-outbreak/

millitary will go about sticking niddles up your ass, if you say no will go to fema camps- thant means ??

jesuitsdidit
30-07-2009, 10:20 PM
apologies if u've seen these already

most of my info on swine flu is now in forum

Vaccinations /Medical Mafia / Big Pharma / Bio-Warfare

principally under threads

Flu - Millions Britons face quarantine this summer go to post 9
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73918

Insiders: Pandemic Was Planned
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=75059



specifically u need 2 check out

posts 29 - 32 here on why they are mixing human and animal viruses (they are quite short)
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=75059&page=3

Genocide via vaccination
http://www.whale.to/v/biowarfare.html

H1N1, Swine flu, Obama, flu shots, Baxter International, Chicago IL, pandemic, corruption, influenza A, CDC, Obama ties to Baxter, Owned stock, political contributions, generated bird flu?, Lethal Vaccine?, modeled after the 1918 flu, Chinese connection. May 6, 2009
http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2009/05/06/h1n1-swine-flu-obama-flu-shots-baxter-international-chicago-il-pandemic-corruption-influenza-a-cdc-obama-ties-to-baxter-owned-stock-political-contributions-generated-bird-flu-lethal-vac/

Depopulation and HIV by Jon Rappoport
http://www.whale.to/b/rappoport.html

dainis bophary
30-07-2009, 10:45 PM
Universities brace for fall swine flu wave
http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2009/07/30/swine-flu-universities.html

:rolleyes:

dainis bophary
31-07-2009, 02:45 AM
Back to school amid swine flu: What parents need to know

School starts in less than a month for thousands of students and this year parents are faced with a flu season that will pack a one-two punch.

On top of the regular flu, there are now heightened concerns about swine flu, or the H1N1 virus. News that a vaccine will not be ready by the time kids head back to school has parents on high alert.

On Thursday, the CDC announced five groups that are most vulnerable to the virus... and it adds up to about 160 million people. That's more than half the entire nation.

Scientists are currently testing the vaccine. The very first doses are on track to be out by October. But that will not help kids who are headed back to crowded classrooms in the fall.

Melissa Desmond is going through a right of passage of sorts, for all young mothers.

"I'm kind of sad my little boy is going to kindergarten, but it's exciting too," she says.

What's on her list of back-to-school supplies?

"Notebooks, clothes, and shoes."

Desmond also plans to send little Asher off to school with plenty of antibacterial wipes.

"I'm nervous about it," she says.

Nervous, not just because she's sending her son off to kindergarten in the fall, but also because this year's flu season could mean double the trouble.



Continued...
http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=10821893

:rolleyes::mad:

dainis bophary
31-07-2009, 03:07 AM
New Tamiflu collection point to be launched in Pershore

A NEW collection point for the antiviral drug Tamiflu will launch in Pershore on Monday (August 3) in a bid to cope with the rising number of swine flu sufferers.

NHS Worcestershire plans to open more Antiviral Collection Points (ACPs) throughout the county after ACPs in Worcester, Redditch and Kidderminster dished out nearly 1,500 prescriptions in the last week.

The launch of the National Pandemic Flu Service last Thursday (July 23) has changed the way swine flu is treated as those with symptoms must now ask a friend to collect medication on their behalf.

Dr Richard Harling, director of public health for the county, said he was pleased with the way the new system was working.

“It seems to be taking some of the pressure off our GPs who were taking a lot of called prior to the NPFS going live,” he said.

The collection point in Pershore will be open from 12.30pm to 8pm each day at the Civic Centre in Queen Elizabeth Drive.

Prescriptions can only be issued to those nominated by someone who has been diagnosed with swine flu by contacting the NPFS.

http://www.eveshamjournal.co.uk/news/4520042.New_Tamiflu_collection_point_to_be_launche d_in_Pershore/

jesuitsdidit
31-07-2009, 05:33 AM
Wal-Mart Stores Inc is discussing with U.S. health officials the possibility of putting vaccination sites at some of its stores for an H1N1 swine flu inoculation campaign this fall, a company official said on Thursday.

http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-SwineFlu/idUSTRE56T4I220090730

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Wal-Mart weighs role in U.S. H1N1 vaccination plans
Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:39pm EDT

By Barbara Liston

ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - Wal-Mart Stores Inc is discussing with U.S. health officials the possibility of putting vaccination sites at some of its stores for an H1N1 swine flu inoculation campaign this fall, a company official said on Thursday.

Federal officials met with Wal-Mart executives on Wednesday in Arkansas to discuss the issue, Dr. John Agwunobi, president of health and wellness for Wal-Mart U.S., told public health leaders at a conference in Orlando.

"We are in discussions with CDC (U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and others in local and state departments to see what role we might play," Agwunobi said. "It might be we are a site. It may be help with logistics and with supply chain."

Agwunobi said 140 million people walk through the doors of its 4,000 U.S. stores each week.

U.S. health advisers have said about half the U.S. population should be vaccinated against H1N1 influenza. Up to 160 million doses of flu vaccine will be available for the start of the campaign in mid-October.

The H1N1 swine flu, characterized by mild symptoms in most patients, is now so widespread that the World Health Organization has stopped counting cases.

Speaking at the National Association of County and City Health Officials (NACCHO) annual conference, Agwunobi also said Wal-Mart is planning to be a site this fall for seasonal flu vaccinations, administered by a third-party, at stores in most parts of the country.

(Editing by Jim Loney and Tim Dobbyn)

freedomnonfighter
31-07-2009, 05:38 AM
Rolling back the prices of intravenous poison I see..

mrindigo
31-07-2009, 06:02 AM
Rolling back the prices of intravenous poison I see..

Rofl :D

Buy 2 and get a free dvd player.

darketernal
31-07-2009, 08:06 AM
Rofl :D

Buy 2 and get a free dvd player.

Oh what brand is the DVD player? Does it play blueray?

Oh gosh, that almost sounds plausable. So sad.

windeyaho
31-07-2009, 08:13 AM
http://247wallst.com/2009/07/30/fighting-swine-flu-the-wal-mart-way-wmt-azn-gsk-novn-sny/"Fighting Swine Flu The Wal-Mart Way (WMT, AZN, GSK, NOVN, SNY)
Posted: July 30, 2009 at 3:28 pm


You can just see the TV advertisements now… Wal-Mart and Uncle Sam are “rolling back” swine flu.

The retailer is in talks with federal officials about possibly putting vaccination sites in its stores this fall. It’s a smart idea that should boost Wal-Mart Stores Inc’s (NYSE: WMT) foot traffic, and give the federal government a fighting chance to reach aggressive its inoculation goals, especially in children.

The government has failed rather miserably in coaxing parents to get vaccinated against other illnesses. Only about 15 percent of kids get all their recommended shots, one of the main reasons why worries that there will not be enough swine flu vaccine to go around this fall likely are overblown.

It’s one of the reasons why companies not named AstraZeneca plc (NYSE: AZN), GlaxoSmithKline plc (NYSE: GSK), Novartis AG (Nasdaq: NOVN), Sanofi-Aventis SA (NYSE: SNY) and Australia’s CSL Ltd. might not see any business from providing swine flu vaccines this season.

About 140 million people shop at Wal-Mart each week. A deal with the retailer could certainly help the government reach its goal of getting about 159 million people the vaccination this fall, especially young children that CDC officials also want to see get a regular flu shot.

There’s been no talk of pricing yet, but count on Wal-Mart to make price a fixture of any outreach. Don’t be surprised if there are 2-for-1 specials for families, and special deals for kids that also get a regular flu shot."


I've always felt that Wallyworld was a government store. Now I'm SURE of it.

inverselogic
31-07-2009, 08:30 AM
We're rollin' back our sleeves!

bicycle
31-07-2009, 08:56 AM
WORSHIPPERS will not be drinking from the communion chalice at churches - due to swine flu fears.

The ban on sharing "common vessels" for food and drink affects eight churches in and around Saffron Walden.

The move came as a result of recommendations from the Bishop of Chelmsford in order to try to prevent the virus spreading among Church of England congregations, which included asking vicars to suspend the use of holy water.

Drinking holy wine from a communal chalice is common practice during communion, with the vessel usually wiped with a cloth after every time someone drinks from it.

David Tomlinson, Saffron Walden team rector, said: "Given the increase in swine flu cases, we wanted to reduce the risk to our parishioners.

"This could go on for several months, but people have been very understanding about it."

In a set of guidelines sent out to churches in Essex, the bishop, the Rt Rev John Gladwin, said: "Some churches have a stoup for holy water near the entrance to the church door, and people are invited to dip a finger in this, and to make the sign of the cross as a reminder of their baptism.

"The water contained in stoups can easily become a source of infection and a means of rapidly spreading the virus. This practice should be suspended."

He added that vicars should tell members of their congregation who have flu-like symptoms to stay at home, and advised ministers to exercise caution when taking communion to resident homes for the elderly.

The bishop said: "Congregations may need assurance that in receiving Holy Communion in one kind in no way suggests that they are not receiving the fullness of Christ's presence in the Sacrament."

Worshippers are being asked to forego the communion wine, and make do with just a piece of bread or wafer.

Canon Owen Spencer-Thomas, press officer for the Bishop of Ely, said in a statement: "The Bishop of Ely, Dr Anthony Russell, is advising parishes that they should weigh most seriously the Archbishops' strong recommendation that those presiding at Holy Communion should suspend the administration of the chalice during this wave of the swine flu pandemic, having regard to the duty of care we owe to the neighbour in our congregations and communities."


http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/cn_news_home/DisplayArticle.asp?ID=437470

beldazar
31-07-2009, 10:44 AM
Hahaha, that is just sooo funny! :D

People really ARE crazy!

kweli
31-07-2009, 12:35 PM
Tamiflu causes sickness and nightmares in children, study finds

More than half of children taking the swine flu drug Tamiflu experience side-effects such as nausea and nightmares, research suggests.

An estimated 150,000 people with flu symptoms were prescribed the drug through a new hotline and website last week, according to figures revealed yesterday.

Studies of children attending three schools in London and one in the South West showed that 51-53 per cent had one or more side-effects from the medication, which is offered to everyone in England with swine flu symptoms.

Read the Entire Story Here. http://www.pandemicfluonline.com/?p=487Tamiflu

turquoisefire777
31-07-2009, 01:52 PM
and here:

http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/article.aspx?cp-documentid=148904629

ennui
31-07-2009, 02:50 PM
From The Lancet:

As well as availability, safety of an H1N1 vaccine is a concern. Many national regulatory agencies have set up fast-track approval processes for the H1N1 vaccine, which means that a vaccine might be licensed without the usual safety and efficacy data requirements.

real6
31-07-2009, 03:23 PM
http://euobserver.com/9/28513

EU rules out airline bans for suspected swine flu patients

Airlines may not casually prevent potential swine flu sufferers from boarding an aircraft, the European Commission has said, pointing out that sick passengers should get extra compensation if not allowed on a plane.

The message from the EU's key regulator came in a list of advice for passengers for the vacation period, published on Thursday (30 July), just as the commission itself is due to set off for the last summer break.

Travel restrictions will not help prevent the spread of the new flu, argue WHO experts (Photo: Eneas De Troya)

* Print
* Comment article

But the warning is also indirectly addressed to airlines amid reports of some companies introducing special restrictions to passengers possibly infected by a new H1N1 virus.

Virgin Atlantic has said it could bar flu sufferers from flying unless they have a certificate from their doctor to confirm they are fit to fly, according to AP.

But Brussels has ruled out such declarations, maintaining that airlines can only take such measures on orders from a public authority.

"If you are denied boarding because you are a suspected case of Influenza A (H1N1) and the measure is neither based on a decision of a sanitary authority or a medical certificate, you should be entitled to reimbursement or rerouting as well as compensation," the commission told potential passengers.

"In other words, the decision to deny boarding should not be purely based on a discretionary and unilateral decision taken by the airline."

According to the World Health Organisation, travel restrictions due to H1N1 virus are not necessary as it is unstoppable and sufferers may be contagious before they show any symptoms.

The European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC) on Thursday (30 July) said there were 1,204 new cases over the past 24 hours across the EU plus Norway, Iceland, Switzerland and Liechtenstein, including 879 new cases from Germany.

Altogether, the number of people infected in the 31 countries of the region has reached a total of 24,021 with 38 deaths. Globally, the total number of confirmed and reported A(H1N1) cases to date is 177,650, including 1,127 deaths.

In Europe, Britain has recorded the highest rate of confirmed cases at 11,159, with 27 deaths in England and four in Scotland, although national authorities suggest the new flu might have reached a peak in the country.

Among other EU states hit hard are Spain with 1,538 cases and seven deaths, as well as Germany with 5,324 patients. France and Belgium have recently recorded their first fatal cases.

Health ministers from the 27 EU member states are due to meet in October to decide on the practical details of the vaccination programme against swine flu, with Brussels estimating that some 60 million Europeans will need priority vaccination due to higher risk.

So far, the virus remains relatively mild. But experts fear it could mutate to become much strong during winter, the main flu season in Europe.

This may result in a fight between member states for vaccines. Germany, France and the UK have already ordered billions of euros worth of vaccine stockpiles.

real6
31-07-2009, 03:28 PM
Video in Link:

Corporate Media Gets You Ready for Your Forced Experimental Vaccination

http://www.prisonplanet.com/corporate-media-gets-you-ready-for-your-forced-experimental-vaccination.html

Fox’s Shepard Smith almost said “draconian” and instead said “drastic” while reporting on Northcom’s involvement in plans to “administer” a toxic H1N1 vaccine, more than likely in October. Robert Gates, the Bush admin leftover at the Pentagon, is ready to sign off on marrying troops with FEMA when the engineered pandemic breaks out later this year. No mention of the egregious violation of Posse Comitatus this plan presents in the Fox News report:


Northcom has a plan “on the table” for “five regional military teams” to back up FEMA when the pandemic hits. Fox’s Brain Wilson reports the military will be involved in imposing “mass quarantines,” that is to say martial law.

It is becoming increasingly clear what the government has in mind for the serfs.

For all the details on the hyped flu pandemic, forced vaccination with experimental vaccines, and coming martial law, see our Flu Pandemic Resource page.

http://www.infowars.com/the-infowars-flu-pandemic-resource/

hawk
31-07-2009, 06:11 PM
The CDC has already got a list of people that they recommend take the vaccine.First on the list: pregnant women! Hello? Is there anybody out there?
With all these pregnant stories in the news and childrens stories of how kids are being taken away by the authorities, what are you seeing here? I see a drastic devil in the details. Does anyone want to guess that this is pt. of reducing the population?

real6
31-07-2009, 06:22 PM
http://247wallst.com/2009/07/30/fighting-swine-flu-the-wal-mart-way-wmt-azn-gsk-novn-sny/

You can just see the TV advertisements now… Wal-Mart and Uncle Sam are “rolling back” swine flu.

The retailer is in talks with federal officials about possibly putting vaccination sites in its stores this fall. It’s a smart idea that should boost Wal-Mart Stores Inc’s (NYSE: WMT) foot traffic, and give the federal government a fighting chance to reach aggressive its inoculation goals, especially in children.

The government has failed rather miserably in coaxing parents to get vaccinated against other illnesses. Only about 15 percent of kids get all their recommended shots, one of the main reasons why worries that there will not be enough swine flu vaccine to go around this fall likely are overblown.

It’s one of the reasons why companies not named AstraZeneca plc (NYSE: AZN), GlaxoSmithKline plc (NYSE: GSK), Novartis AG (Nasdaq: NOVN), Sanofi-Aventis SA (NYSE: SNY) and Australia’s CSL Ltd. might not see any business from providing swine flu vaccines this season.

About 140 million people shop at Wal-Mart each week. A deal with the retailer could certainly help the government reach its goal of getting about 159 million people the vaccination this fall, especially young children that CDC officials also want to see get a regular flu shot.

There’s been no talk of pricing yet, but count on Wal-Mart to make price a fixture of any outreach. Don’t be surprised if there are 2-for-1 specials for families, and special deals for kids that also get a regular flu shot.

wasd
31-07-2009, 06:22 PM
Its supposed to put us in fear i guess?

gods sun
31-07-2009, 06:29 PM
actually good luck ^^^

most of them are dead anyways there just waiting for it, they love vaccinations and want it. they want so let them have it better them than me.

particlepopup
31-07-2009, 07:11 PM
actually good luck ^^^

most of them are dead anyways there just waiting for it, they love vaccinations and want it. they want so let them have it better them than me.

I had a full blown "debate" with my sister today who wants to be first in line for them, i emplored her to do a bit of research into it and not just to take my word for it, head and brick wall springs to mind. Also went to a local surgery where they have a anti-viral collection point and there was people with there noses and mouths covered up, steam was leaking from all my orifices and a large shouting noise nearly escaped from my mouth. Crackers.:confused:

mrindigo
31-07-2009, 08:34 PM
Oh what brand is the DVD player? Does it play blueray?

Oh gosh, that almost sounds plausable. So sad.

It does, doesn't it? I wouldn't be surprised if something like that went down, just to give more incentive for people to take the shot.

beldazar
31-07-2009, 08:47 PM
I had a full blown "debate" with my sister today who wants to be first in line for them, i emplored her to do a bit of research into it and not just to take my word for it, head and brick wall springs to mind. Also went to a local surgery where they have a anti-viral collection point and there was people with there noses and mouths covered up, steam was leaking from all my orifices and a large shouting noise nearly escaped from my mouth. Crackers.:confused:

Im so sorry your sister isnt listening :(

Ive spent months talking my mum round this, fortunately she has the wisdom to look into the info I give to her and has completely come round. this in turn has had an effect on my littlest sister who is coming round also.

If I had been at the surgery where you went to, Im afraid I would have laughed and feigned the odd sneeze here and there :cool: :D

neutron flux
31-07-2009, 10:14 PM
I don't know if this has been posted:

Plans for “vaccine” bracelets to be forced on people at road blocks

Former Kansas State Trooper Greg Evensen reports that there are plans for road-blocks to force vaccines with military personnel putting bracelets on people. Those who refuse to take the steel band with a microchip will be put on a prison bus and taken to a quarantine camp.

Evensen also says he believes that many law enforcement officers will reject using this "Gestapo" approach on their fellow citizens, and will question the legitimacy of the orders of what looks like a bunch of criminals in federal government who appear to be seeking to retain their grip on power by setting up an apparatus of state terror, all too reminiscent of that if Nazi Germany where the inmates of concentration camps like Buchenwald were killed by injections in the heart.

Law enforcement officers anxious to restore law and order and arrest really dangerous criminals should look no further than at the people sitting in the top echelons of government, he hints.

"Have you been made aware of the massive roadblock plans to stop all travelers for a vaccine bracelet (stainless steel band with a micro-chip on board) that will force you to take the shot? Refuse it? You will be placed on a prison bus and taken to a quarantine camp. What will you do when your children are NOT allowed into school without the shot? What will you do when you are not allowed into the workplace without the vaccine paperwork? Buy groceries? Go to the bank? Shop anywhere?? Get on a plane, bus or train? Use the toilet in the mall? Nope. Police officers will become loathed, feared, despised and remembered for their "official" duties," writes Evensen.

"Note: There are significant numbers of officers at all levels that simply detest the forced training at FEMA centers, the requirements to stop Patriots and others simply because they "look" dangerous, and are exercising free speech statements on their vehicles. By whose ultimate authority does this take place? By whose ultimate judgment is it that it is necessary to harass INNOCENT drivers and families? The public sees this Gestapo mentality as far more of a danger than any stickers they put on their vehicles? Where are all these "faithful" enforcers of the law when it comes to confronting the unlawful, unconstitutional, unjustifiable, and unmerciful rotten bunch of usurpers, communists, atheists, deviated, immoral scungebuckets that are walking the halls of Congress, the White House, and the Federal Courts? How is it that the "get 'em at any cost" morons at Homeland Security have created an environment in amerika that is an unwarranted intrusion of power in 186 other nations?

So, once again, I implore those officers of the law who are in grave doubt about the legitimate authenticity of their superiors in any agency, to simply read the constitution, re-read their oath of office, seek out retired officers for guidance, and remember this very carefully - to brutalize citizens in the pursuit of order, is a guaranteed recipe for resistance. PLEASE do not pit yourselves (all 650,000 officers at all levels in the US) against a seething and angry populace who outnumber you 5000 to 1. Believe me; you want all of us working with you, not against you."

Link (http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/2009/07/30/plans-for-vaccine-bracelets-to-be-forced-on-people-at-road-blocks/)

dude111
31-07-2009, 10:22 PM
All i can say is: IF THEY WANT VIOLENCE TO ENSUE,GO RIGHT AHEAD AND TRY AND FORCE THIS CRAP ON EVERYONE!!

I had a full blown "debate" with my sister today who wants to be first in line for them, i emplored her to do a bit of research into it and not just to take my word for it, head and brick wall springs to mind.I am also sorry she isnt listening...

All you can do is continue trying and presenting stuff for her to l00k at and hopefully take seriously!

pduffy4
01-08-2009, 01:36 AM
University Of Alabama Implements Mandatory Vaccination Program
http://www.prisonplanet.com/university-of-alabama-implements-mandatory-vaccination-program.html

Totally criminal! Lots of the students will not want to lose out on their degrees and will take the poison!:mad:

I read elsewhere what if they extend this fascism to not being able to enter a supermarket for food unless you can prove you have had the vaccine? Also no vaccine no job!:mad:

dainis bophary
01-08-2009, 02:18 AM
COUNTRIES NEED to assess carefully the risks and benefits of the rapid approval of a human swine flu vaccine to avoid the repeat of past problems with mass-vaccination, medical journal The Lancet has said.

The publication said the fast- tracking of vaccines could lead to a repeat of the problems surrounding a 1976 H1N1 vaccination programme in the United States.

Three elderly people died on the day the vaccine was introduced in October 1976, causing panic and the eventual abandonment of the vaccine programme. The Lancet said the vaccine might be licensed without the usual safety and efficacy data requirements and all monitoring will have to be done after the vaccine has been administered.

It also pointed out that the disease has so far been mild with most patients making a full recovery and therefore there should be strong post-marketing surveillance in place before the rolling out of a vaccine.

The vaccines, which are still being developed, are likely to be available in Ireland by October and everybody will be in a position to get them.

The chief medical officer Dr Tony Holohan said they would not be recommending the vaccine to any group unless the balance of risk is in favour of them being vaccinated. Six of the seven foreign students staying on the UCD campus who are suspected of having human swine flu have been released from quarantine.

The other student is being assessed by a GP and has been prescribed paracetamol rather than tamiflu which is usually only given to those who have contracted swine flu. Ten students, who are from Italy and Spain, were also monitored by GPs. They have all been cleared while another student who presented yesterday with flu-like symptoms is being assessed. A spokesman for UCD said the university, the biggest in the country, has a comprehensive plan to prepare for the potential threat which will occur when students and staff return to the college in September.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/0801/1224251858317.html

dainis bophary
01-08-2009, 02:34 AM
Confessions of a hypochondriac ('Swine flu')
Are we a nation of hysterical hypochondriacs?

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/magazine/2009/0801/1224251544774.html

manxboz
01-08-2009, 02:41 AM
We have 13 cases on the Island now and we are prepareing for the Island to go into shutdown mode.

dainis bophary
01-08-2009, 02:44 AM
U.S. Government puts states on notice, swine flu vaccination mandate on the horizon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlDjDAFW1Ck



Despite the fact that swine flu has killed far fewer people globally than the common flu virus since it was first discovered in April, media scare stories about H1N1 “epidemics” are becoming more and more frequent. Friday July 10, 2009 Reuters reports that the World Health Organization (WHO) will “issue guidance about the need for a H1N1 influenza jab” during a press conference later that day Monday July 13, 2009. Meanwhile, the U.S. government has put states on notice that swine flu vaccinations will begin in October. The editor of the popular blog “Pissed Off Former Democrat” phoned the legal council at the Arkansas State Health Department to seek advice about obtaining waiver forms for a future mass swine flu vaccination program. Only to be told that mandatory vaccines were constitutional and could be enforced at gunpoint by the government if necessary. The last time the government ordered a mass vaccination drive in response to a swine flu outbreak, the program had to be stopped short after the shots caused over 500 cases of Guillain-Barre syndrome, a severe paralyzing nerve disease. 30 people died as a direct result of the vaccinations. As with every flu virus, the particular strain of swine flu currently circulating the globe will inevitably mutate and change, and indeed there is evidence to suggest that this is already taking place – so how on earth could vaccines be a fix all cure unless multiple vaccines produced on an annual basis were distributed? These are the people we are supposed to “trust” and “forgive” according to Time Magazine and Markel when the federal government breaks down our door, guns drawn and dripping needle in hand. Americans would indeed have to be very trustworthy and ultimately forgiving in taking a vaccine by government decree manufactured by a company that has been caught red-handed contaminating their vaccines with far deadlier viruses than swine flu. In an article entitled How to Deal with Swine Flu: Heeding the Mistakes of 1976, the piece discusses how dozens died and hundreds were injured from vaccines as a result of the 1976 swine flu fiasco, when the Ford administration attempted to use the infection of soldiers at Fort Dix as a pretext for a mass vaccination of the entire country. Question is, what will happen to the millions of people around the world who will reject the notion that the government can order someone to stick a needle in your arm by force?

Note:
A U.S. based pharmaceutical company Baxter International was involved in a scandal involving vaccines tainted with deadly avian flu virus. It was only by providence that the batch was first tested on ferrets in the Czech Republic, before being shipped out for injection into humans. The ferrets all died and the shocking discovery was made. Czech newspapers immediately questioned whether the events were part of a conspiracy to deliberately provoke a pandemic, following up on accusations already made by health officials in other countries. The Czech company Bio-test near from Prague got from Austria a testing batch of the new flu vaccine for 2009 from the American company Baxter. In February they have found that the vaccine was contaminated by the H5N1 - Avian flu virus, which is on the list of the possible biological weapons and is one of the most dangerous biological agents on the Earth - with more than 60% death rate. All the testing animals in Bio-test were subsequently destroyed and all the workers in the company were put in quarantine. Luckily nobody contracted the disease. Subsequently the same problem of the Baxter vaccines contamination with H5N1 was found in the laboratories in Slovenia, Austria and Germany, which confirms that the source of the contagion was in fact the Baxter vaccine, which could be very probable, because Baxter is one of the companies, which are developing the vaccines against H5N1. Some Czech newspapers speculated at the time that Baxter was embroiled in a conspiracy to provoke a pandemic from which it would reap billions in profits from producing the vaccine to counter a bird flu outbreak. The fact that Baxter mixed the deadly H5N1 virus with a mix of H3N2 seasonal flu viruses is the smoking gun. The H5N1 virus on its own has killed hundreds of people, but it is less airborne and more restricted in the ease with which it can spread. However, when combined with seasonal flu viruses, which as everyone knows are super-airborne and easily spread, the effect is a potent, super-airborne, super deadly. WHO officials are reportedly still closely monitoring the investigation into Baxter's contaminated flu vaccines, seemingly they are not too concerned. Perhaps we should be


http://www.examiner.com/x-6478-NY-Page-One-Examiner~y2009m7d31-Swine-Flu-Mandate-US-Government-puts-states-on-notice

ivorywire
01-08-2009, 03:33 AM
University Of Alabama Implements Mandatory Vaccination Program
http://www.prisonplanet.com/university-of-alabama-implements-mandatory-vaccination-program.html

Totally criminal! Lots of the students will not want to lose out on their degrees and will take the poison!:mad:

I read elsewhere what if they extend this fascism to not being able to enter a supermarket for food unless you can prove you have had the vaccine? Also no vaccine no job!:mad:

When I went to university, I had to prove that I had been vaccinated just to remain enrolled.

cleft_asunder
01-08-2009, 04:13 AM
When I went to university, I had to prove that I had been vaccinated just to remain enrolled.

That is common practice. I can't get into the university of nevada reno if I don't get vaccinated. My body can't deal with any more mercury nor the other immune system destroying ingredients. I reached a decision a long time ago that if somebody forces a vaccine on me, that is the equivelant of them threatening my life. Therefore I won't hesitate to use force.

ozpixie
01-08-2009, 07:56 AM
That is common practice. I can't get into the university of nevada reno if I don't get vaccinated. My body can't deal with any more mercury nor the other immune system destroying ingredients. I reached a decision a long time ago that if somebody forces a vaccine on me, that is the equivelant of them threatening my life. Therefore I won't hesitate to use force.

My body can't take any more either. Crippling systemic RA started about a fortnight after I took a Havrix shot. You have to have three shots and each time it got worse and worse. I was crook almost straight away with some flu like symptoms and they cleared and were replaced with all the joint problems and organ damage. I asked my doc if it was lupus - he said he still isn't sure but when it gets this bad it doesn't matter. All that said no doctor anywhere will admit it was the Havrix - just coincidence... as if. It's my fault for believing them but it wont happen again.

They will NOT lie to me anymore or get my money either. Not for shots or for their poxy 'cures'.

iamgiger
01-08-2009, 09:23 AM
Greece will vaccinate its entire population of 12 million against the H1N1 swine flu pandemic which has swept around the world in weeks, killing hundreds of people, the country's health minister said on Friday.

The Mediterranean country, which receives about 15 million tourists every year, has confirmed more than 700 swine flu cases and no deaths, but world health experts say the true number of cases globally is far higher as only a few patients get tested.

"We decided that the entire population, all citizens and residents, without any exception, will be vaccinated against the flu," Health Minister Dimitris Avramopoulos said after a ministerial meeting.

Greece has already earmarked 40 million euros for vaccines and has placed orders with Novartis, Glaxo and Sanofi for 8 million vaccine doses, to be received gradually by January.

Vaccine experts say people will likely need two doses of vaccine to be protected from H1N1 swine flu, so Greece would need a total of 24 million doses to vaccinate its entire population. Other countries are taking similar steps.

"Greece will order 16 million more doses from the same companies in the future," a health ministry official who declined to be named told Reuters.

"We are only waiting for the European Union's approval to start vaccinating everyone."
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The European Medicines Agency has begun reviewing pandemic flu vaccines under development, aiming to get them approved before the flu season starts, sometime in September.

The health ministry official said children, the elderly and ailing would be the first to be vaccinated.

About 800 people have died worldwide since the outbreak of the flu in April.

http://tvnz.co.nz/health-news/greece-vaccinate-population-swine-flu-2881876

http://www.forexyard.com/en/reuters_inner.tpl?action=2009-07-31T144421Z_01_LV531877_RTRIDST_0_FLU-GREECE-VACCINE

beldazar
01-08-2009, 09:42 AM
[B]"We decided that the entire population, all citizens and residents, without any exception, will be vaccinated against the flu," Health Minister Dimitris Avramopoulos said after a ministerial meeting.

http://tvnz.co.nz/health-news/greece-vaccinate-population-swine-flu-2881876

http://www.forexyard.com/en/reuters_inner.tpl?action=2009-07-31T144421Z_01_LV531877_RTRIDST_0_FLU-GREECE-VACCINE

:eek::eek::eek:

jesuitsdidit
01-08-2009, 10:44 AM
principally under threads

Flu - Millions Britons face quarantine this summer go to post 9
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73918

go to post 9

should read

start at post 9

dude111
01-08-2009, 10:47 AM
"We decided that the entire population, all citizens and residents, without any exception, will be vaccinated against the flu," Health Minister Dimitris Avramopoulos said after a ministerial meeting.

This is so apparant that they are triyng to force EVERYONE TO GET THIS CRAP SO PEOPLE WILL START BEING AFFECTED AND THEY CAN THEN CAN CONTINUE THIER CRAP....

jesuitsdidit
01-08-2009, 10:58 AM
U.S. Government puts states on notice, swine flu vaccination mandate on the horizon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlDjDAFW1Ck

they r saying those born b4 the 1957 epidemic
have natural immunity bcoz theyve already been exposed to it and have built up immunity
which is why i reckon catching it now while its mild must be a good idea
so
if you see someone with it
i'd say go talk to them..

edit -flu outbreaks r often mild at first
this tallies with wots happening now
where only those with compromised immune systems r dying..

siliconpsychosis
01-08-2009, 11:27 AM
Im starting to wonder if the shite weather in the UK this summer has been engineered so that we receive less direct sunlight and therefore are less able to build up a natural defence against the swine flu (Vitamin D).

Im also starting to wonder if these vaccinations that will be pushed on to people are going to affect peoples ability to 'think' for themselves, effectively turning people into mind controlled zombies.

The talk of vaccinations becoming mandatory is starting to freak me out. Im mentally preparing myself for the fact that I might get murdered for refusing to take the vaccination.

jesuitsdidit
01-08-2009, 12:30 PM
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Why there is no reason to fear this “swine flu” virus or any “virus” * Colloidal silver and how to make it at home easily * Bionaid and ZeoHeal use NASA technology * Fight stress as well as mass vaccinations
July 31, 2009

As the scare-mongering over the “swine flu” continues, it is important to remember that colloidal silver has been proven to kill every virus as Dr Rebecca Carley, expert on vaccines, has noted. (www.drcarley.com)

Under a recent EU directive, colloidal silver manufacturers were obliged to dilute their silver by 90 per cent, making it much less effective; in the USA, this powerful tool to kill every virus has also been marginalised.

Nevertheless, a colloidal silver generator is easy to make yourself. You just need some distilled water, a couple of silver rodes attached to batteries and a dark glass bottle.

Drew Malone gives the low-down on making your own generator:

“Gang, I’ve researched this and this and REGARDLESS of what you
are told, and promised THIS IS the cats meow… YOU can make this
and it’s not hard, ANYONE with any mechanical background can and
should have a Collodial Silver generator in their possision asap ….

check these direct links out…
http://www.atlasnova.com/
http://www.atlasnova.com/CSMakingInfo.htm

EVERYTHING can be purchase at 80% of the malls around
the USA…. radio shack has the 33 OHM resisters, aligator clips etc.
any jewelery store has 9999 silver rods

voltage use is 3 or 4 9volt batteries (I have used 4 and 3 both work)
the only difference is the time form 13min – 20 min

extra hints , email me your question if need be…
Semper Fi,

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In the view of experts like Dr Carley, there is no better investment you can make of your time or money right now than in building or buying a colloidal silver generator. If you generate extra colloidal silver, you can also help your neighbours and your community.

If you are really desperate, just put a silver coin or rod into some water and leave it there for a while.

Two things are important to remember about colloidal silver generators; firstly, a possible overdose of large silver particles and argyria, which is not toxic but which can you turn blue or grey if you drink large enough quantities; and secondly, the particle size may not be effective enough to penetrate all areas of the body.

However, a colloidal silver generator along with vitamins and minerals to strengthen your immune system will be a big help to anyone.

Another helpful product is Bionaid and ZeoHeal.

Bionaid’s primary particle is below .004 microns in size, thus not tecnically classified as a colloid, so referring to Bionaid as a colloidal silver is not accurate.

Being that Bionaid is under 3ppm, no dilution is necessary, and even when it is diluted in water it is still quite lethal on pathogens. 4 oz per gallon of pure water is one of the suggested uses, mainly to encourge hydration at the same time and flush the body. The water base in Bionaid penetrates the cells as well, faster than any water tested.

What is important about Bionaid is not so much the silver in it, with other monatomic trace minerals, but the trioxide covalently bonded to all the monatomic minerals, including silver. Oxygen is the key, and the superior ability to enter through the aquaporin channel of the cells. The natural immunization with the oxygen is the key to its effetiveness. Bionaid uses NASA technology in Bionaid and has $1million dollar reward regarding superior safety and efficact (that has never been claimed by vaccine and drug proponents).

The particle is permanently suspended and the product is nonperishable and non-photosensitive.

ZeoHeal attacks pathogens also, chelates and clathrates the die-off and many other foreign metals and chemicals.

The fact that the US government has not investing in stockpiling these products as a way of combatting a so-called “pandemic” virus makes them guilty of gross negligence.

The existence of colloidal silver and bionaid make a forced vaccination with a vaccines full of disease and squalene at gunpoint in a quarantine center superfluous, even supposing the virus were dangerous, which it isn’t.

David MacLucas has given his assessment of squalene, its impact and how to counter act it if you should ever find yourself being injected with the stuff under duress.

“I researched the Squalene extensively today… wow! What a catch 22 immune system quagmire that is. Squalene is both good and bad, but its how and how much that causes the variances of immune problems. When injected it bypasses the liver and overloads the immune system. Since the Squalene gets stored in fat and is what your body already uses theres no real way to eliminate it naturally.

Basically it will really effect overwieght people, stressed people, and / or anyone with liver problems since Squalene is a super enzyme that eventually gets converted into Cholesterol by your liver.

Anything that lowers cholesterol, stress, balances the immune system and improves liver function will help… but still not a silver bullet to remove the Squalene.

HOWEVER!

Best recommendations for anyone that HAPPENS to get the Vaccine, here is the beginning of a protocol… meaning not complete, nor approved ;)

Firstly, Bionaid is a must must must. Anyone who understands the principles of Oxygen therapy and the effects of Collodial silver on viruses will have their jaw drop open when they learn how Bionaid is made. Bionaid is a 1, 2 punch of godly proportions on killing a virus that gave me butterflys when I learned how they made it.

Secondly, I have done years of research on Zeolite and have included it in my Cancer Elimination Kit. Zeolite is uncontestable and irrefutable at removing heavy metals… the molecular structe could not be more perfect at this task.

Thirdly, things like excercise increase your livers ability to process cholesterol and mediate enzymes. Eliminate the bad cholesterol from your diet now.

Fourth, if you do get the vaccination… relax, relax, relax for 2 weeks non-stop and reduce your bodys immune system response while the Squalene gets removed from your body naturally. I only found advance research done using a rat liver to accelerate the removal of Squalene – not a realistic choice.”

It is important to recognise just how damaging stress is.

Indeed, some have even said the international crime syndicate has collapsed the US and European economy also to induce massive amounts of stress in people, so making them more susceptible to illness.

Fight back today by taking charge of your mental household and throwing out the old furniture of thoughts that create anxiety, worry, stress or fear and bringing in thoughts that bring power, energy, inspiration, confidence and hope.

The biggest single thing you can do to stop stress in the long term is to help pave the way to the return of the rule of law. Then those responsible for these mass vaccinations with toxins can be made accountable for their actions once and for all.

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ps i believe they have isolated the gene that causes obesity
and suspect theyve grafted it into the codes of GM crops..

jesuitsdidit
01-08-2009, 12:37 PM
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Swiss army stockpiles “swine flu” vaccines in preparation for mass forced vaccination
July 30, 2009

The army in Switzerland is starting to stockpile “swine flu” vaccines as it gears up for a mass forced vaccination of the Swiss population in autumn, according to a report in the Basler Zeitung.

http://bazonline.ch/schweiz/standard/Erste-Impfspritzen-in-der-Schweiz-eingetroffen/story/22051646

The Swiss army today received the first shipment of a total of 16 million doses of vaccines as well as needles in readiness for mass forced vaccination of the entire population using two doses.

Thomas Meister, the head of pharmacy products and technology of the army pharmacy department, told Swiss TV that the vaccines came from USA, Germany and Spain, but it is not clear which pharmaceutical companies delivered them and whether Baxter was one of them.

It is not clear either whether the vaccines have passed clinical trials or whether they have been subjected to any safety tests.

The Swiss Ministry of Health ordered the army to buy the vaccines on the basis of the country’s pandemic plan – and WHO’s instructions to all 194 member states to mass vaccinate their populations by use of force.

The Cantons of Switzerland are reported to have plans already in place to force every single person living in each Canton to appear at a “vaccine center” at a specified time to take the vaccine or face prison.

The local police have been instructed to go through the register and ring every single person to get them to go to their vaccine center during the pandemic “emergency” predicted by “WHO” to occur from September onwards. No exceptions to the vaccine will be allowed.

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01-08-2009, 12:40 PM
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About my visit to Baxter in Orth an der Donau – a bioweapons facility?
July 30, 2009

Germany’s alternative media is increasingly reporting on Baxter, WHO and also on legislation allowing forced vaccination in Germany, such as paragraph §20 of the German Law on Infection Protection which cancels basic civic rights in the event of a pandemic “emergency”.

This morning I recorded an interview with Michael Vogt. After that, I went to visit Baxter’s facilities on Orth an der Donau with Thomas Pfeiffer and Markus Wolf from Grenz tv to take a closer look at the place where 72 kilos of seasonal flu material was manufactured and contaminated with live bird flu virus (courtesy of WHO) this February before being sent out to 16 labs in four countries, nearly sparking a pandemic.

If you check out Baxter’s facilities on the Uferstrasse in Orth an der Donau using Google satellite maps, you will get some idea of just how large the complex is — and also how isolated.

Set apart from an idyllic but tiny village (a church, a castle and a few shops), the Baxter complex is in a thickly wooded area not far from the Danube river.

It can be reached only by one road and that is a winding country lane – a lane so narrow, moreover, that cars can barely overtake. That said, the shade from the woods was very pleasant with temperatures soaring into the mid-thirties.

An arrow straight cycling path runs along a raised bank on one side of the complex, which is screened by more impenetrable woods. But there is no other road or footpath close by.

As we drove along the cycling path and got an idea of just how vast the woods around the complex are, the car’s satellite navigational system stopped working….Mind you, we shouldn’t have been driving on a cycling path anyway.

Lots of cars with German number plates were parked in the parking lot where the flags of Baxter, the USA, EU and Austria flutter from flag poles.

Baxter’s research and production facilities in Orth an der Donau are among the most up to date in the world, and the complex is truly gigantic with an extrension also in the process of being built.

The granite and concrete buildings with narrow, dark, reflecting windows have a martial-look, though the tallest was only three-storeys high. A fence adds to the impression of secrecy. Cars going in and out have to pass through a barrier beside a security guardhouse.

We weren’t allowed to film close to the entrance. As soon as we walked up, a security guard in a blue paramilitary style uniform with his trousers tucked into ankle boots on a bike — used for patrolling the cycling path at the side of the complex? — rushed up and approached us together with a Baxter employee who told us we were not allowed to film the outside of the facilities even though the parking lot is technically public ground.

Anyway, the place sure looked like a high tech bioweapons development and production facility rather than like an ordinary biotech or pharma company to me – and it had the security to match.

It was hard to imagine how lorries could navigate the narrow country road leading to Baxter – as they presumably must to bring supplies in to the production facility and also to transport the products back out.

A woman serving drinks in an inn in the village of Orth an der Donau told us that a lot of the local people work for Baxter but no one seemed to know a great deal about the place.

Thomas and Markus hope to have a short documentary ready by August 20th.

jesuitsdidit
01-08-2009, 12:41 PM
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CLG updates: WHO and FEMA harness US Military to carry out their forced vaccination agenda
July 29, 2009

As the militarisation of the “swine flu” mass vaccination program speeds up, contact your local military base and alert them to your concerns that US law enforcement and the US military are being misused by WHO, FEMA and Homeland Security to administer toxic vaccines by force to their own people and for a hyped flu.

Take action and contact your local law enforcement and military bases now by fax and email!

Here is link to a website with information to download and give to your local military http://www.thehealingpraxis.com/OperationFaxtoStoptheVax.html

Susan Wolfrey is trying to turn all the states on her map blue. Can you help her?

CLG reports:

Military Poised to Help FEMA Battle Swine Flu Outbreak –U.S. commander for Northern Command asked Defense Secretary to sign executive order for military to set up five regional teams to deal with outbreak –Orders to deploy actual forces would be reviewed later 29 Jul 2009 The Pentagon is preparing to help the Federal Emergency Management Agency tackle a potential outbreak of the H1N1 virus this fall, FOX News has confirmed. The Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices voted to set vaccination priorities for those groups Wednesday during a meeting in Atlanta. The vote came on the same day that Gen. Victor Renuart, the U.S. commander for Northern Command, has asked Defense Secretary Robert Gates to sign an executive order for the military to set up five regional teams to deal with the potential outbreak if FEMA requests help. Gates is expected to sign the order soon. It is not known how many troops would be needed and whether they would come from the active duty or the National Guard and Reserve forces. As a first step, Gates is being asked to sign a so-called “execution order” that would authorize the military to begin to conduct the detailed planning to execute the proposed plan. [Barack Obama was 'allowed' to win so that he could put a friendly face on the military dictatorship that is at our doorstep. Obama has done *nothing* for the Left -- those who worked tirelessly for him so that he could implement 'change.' Obama has, in fact, out-Bushed Bush. Bush-Cheney could only *dream* of what Obama is poised to 'accomplish.' The full-blown police state is here -- the raison d'etre for the US Army-created flu pandemic. Just as the CLG has documented and predicted. --Lori Price]

Military planning for possible H1N1 outbreak 29 Jul 2009 The U.S. military wants to establish regional teams of military personnel to assist civilian authorities in the event of a significant outbreak of the H1N1 virus this fall, according to Defense Department officials. The proposal is awaiting final approval from Defense Secretary Robert Gates. The officials would not be identified because the proposal from U.S. Northern Command’s Gen. Victor Renuart has not been approved by the secretary.

halftheworldaway
01-08-2009, 12:53 PM
According to this news report today all Greek citizens and residents will be forced to submit to a swine flu jab, no exceptions, despite no deaths as a result of infections thus far.

It'll stand to reason that no-one will then be allowed to visit the country without being able to prove somehow that they've been vaccinated.

It's easy to see how the Greek plan will spread and that the PTB really are determined to get their muck into everyone's bloodstream.

Greece to vaccinate population for swine flu

http://tvnz.co.nz/health-news/greece-vaccinate-population-swine-flu-2881876#

Greece will vaccinate its entire population of 12 million against the H1N1 swine flu pandemic which has swept around the world in weeks, killing hundreds of people, the country's health minister said on Friday.

The Mediterranean country, which receives about 15 million tourists every year, has confirmed more than 700 swine flu cases and no deaths, but world health experts say the true number of cases globally is far higher as only a few patients get tested.

"We decided that the entire population, all citizens and residents, without any exception, will be vaccinated against the flu," Health Minister Dimitris Avramopoulos said after a ministerial meeting.

Greece has already earmarked 40 million euros for vaccines and has placed orders with Novartis, Glaxo and Sanofi for 8 million vaccine doses, to be received gradually by January.

Vaccine experts say people will likely need two doses of vaccine to be protected from H1N1 swine flu, so Greece would need a total of 24 million doses to vaccinate its entire population. Other countries are taking similar steps.

"Greece will order 16 million more doses from the same companies in the future," a health ministry official who declined to be named told Reuters.

"We are only waiting for the European Union's approval to start vaccinating everyone."

The European Medicines Agency has begun reviewing pandemic flu vaccines under development, aiming to get them approved before the flu season starts, sometime in September.

The health ministry official said children, the elderly and ailing would be the first to be vaccinated.

About 800 people have died worldwide since the outbreak of the flu in April.

jesuitsdidit
01-08-2009, 12:54 PM
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Video with more evidence the “swine flu” hoax is part of population reduction agenda
July 29, 2009

Check out this video from Jason

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiPYG3W78Us
enterhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiPYG3W78Us

giving evidence that the swine flu hoax and it is all part of a population reduction agenda.

“FACT!
John Holdren- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Holdren FERTILITY IMPAIRING VACCINE AND METHOD OF USE- http://www..wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=1999034825 AND- http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?IA=US1998027658&wo=1999034825&DISPLAY=DESC Vaccine A-The Covert Government Experiment Thats Killing our Soldiers- http://www.vaccine-a.com/excerpt.html The Philippine High Court convicted WHO (The World Health Organization) of involuntarily sterilizing over 3 million Philippina women through the use of vaccines.

FACT! Delayed effects of neonatal exposure to Tween 80 on female reproductive organs in rats..- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8473002 The WHO 5-shot vaccine programs for tetanus in third world countries in South and Central America caused the involuntary sterilization of millions of women.

FACT! Monsanto’s MON 810 corn causes sterility according to studies published by the Austrian Government.

FACT! Gardasil contains substances which may cause sterility in women.

FACT! A significant number of virologists and other scientists are on record stating that the Swine Flu was created in a laboratory and could not evolve naturally.

FACT! President Obama announced to the public shortly after his inauguration that every man, woman and child should receive the Avian Flu vaccine this fall along with seasonal flu shots this coming Fall. President Obama is on record saying that he believes that vaccinations should be mandatory.

FACT! Every recent major event like 9/11, the Madrid bombings or the London bombings has been accompanied by a materially identical training exercise simulating the actual event involving, confusing and distracting the legitimate responders.

FACT! Squalene is in the vaccination- http://www.mvrd.org/showpage.cfm?ID=69 EMERGENCY ALERT: Great Danger Lurking In Flu Shots Health Risks Far Outweigh Benefits!- http://www.thenhf.com/vaccinations_70.htm SEE MY NEXT VIDEO ON HOW I LINK THIS TO THE CHEMTRAILS!”

qeutey
01-08-2009, 01:31 PM
"We decided that the entire population, all citizens and residents, without any exception, will be vaccinated against the flu," Health Minister Dimitris Avramopoulos said after a ministerial meeting.



"He later added that the vaccine would be administered to all submitting a written application accompanied by a medical evaluation"

jesuitsdidit
01-08-2009, 01:33 PM
and here is the source http://www.naturalnews.com/026723_health_vaccines_immune_system.html

" Three-stage vaccinations may create perfect cytokine storm

The vaccine is to be given by a series of three injections. Speaking on the Republic Broadcasting Network with Dr. Rebecca Carley as host on July 11th, meta-analyst and vaccine researcher Patrick Jordan reported belief that the first injection will be for the purpose of turning off the victim's immune system. The second injection will be for the purpose of loading people with deadly organisms. And the third injection will be to turn the immune system back on for the purpose of creating a cytokine storm that will deal a lethal blow to the body.

In his chronicle of the connection between vaccines and death, Jordan pointed out that in 1915 the pertussis vaccine became available and was widely given. This bacterial poison from whopping cough, called pertussis coxon, so depresses the immune system that it is used in laboratories today to turn off nutrafils and reduce white blood cell counts. Then, in 1918, soldiers who had received the pertussis vaccine were deployed to Europe, where they were given another unknown vaccine. continues...

v good article cx..
click on blue arrow > above for link to article

qeutey
01-08-2009, 01:35 PM
Swiss army stockpiles “swine flu” vaccines in preparation for mass forced vaccination
July 30, 2009

The army in Switzerland is starting to stockpile “swine flu” vaccines as it gears up for a mass forced vaccination of the Swiss population in autumn, according to a report in the Basler Zeitung.

http://bazonline.ch/schweiz/standard/Erste-Impfspritzen-in-der-Schweiz-eingetroffen/story/22051646



The report does not say anything about the vaccine being "forced" on anyone.

jesuitsdidit
01-08-2009, 01:40 PM
many many good articles at

http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/category/uncategorized/

cant post them all here..

jesuitsdidit
01-08-2009, 01:47 PM
another good article..


http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/category/uncategorized/


Why are the vaccines with adjuvants not being tested in the US?
July 29, 2009

The U.S. government has contracts with five major pharmaceutical companies to produce swine flu vaccines. The WHO laid down guidelines in July, saying that “swine flu” vaccines must have adjuvants.

But those vaccines that have adjuvants, such as the ones produced by Novartis and GlaxoSmithKline, will not be tested in official clinical trials in the USA in spite of the overwhelming evidence that adjuvants cause damage. Instead, the NIAID has selected two vaccines for clinical trials that contain no adjuvants, that is to say the vaccines that will not be the one used on the majority of the people. Also, it is not clear how these vaccines without adjuvants will react with the other flu shots.

Dr Mercola explains:

“Novartis’s proprietary squalene adjuvant for their H1N1 vaccine is MF59. Glaxo’s is ASO3. MF59 has yet to be approved by the FDA for use in any U.S. vaccine, despite its history of use in other countries.

Per Dr. Nass, there are only three vaccines in existence using an approved squalene adjuvant. None of the three are approved for use in the U.S.

What Squalene Does to Rats

Oil-based vaccination adjuvants like squalene have been proved to generate concentrated, unremitting immune responses over long periods of time.[vi]

A 2000 study published in the American Journal of Pathology demonstrated a single injection of the adjuvant squalene into rats triggered “chronic, immune-mediated joint-specific inflammation,” also known as rheumatoid arthritis.[vii]

The researchers concluded the study raised questions about the role of adjuvants in chronic inflammatory diseases.

What Squalene Does to Humans

Your immune system recognizes squalene as an oil molecule native to your body. It is found throughout your nervous system and brain. In fact, you can consume squalene in olive oil and not only will your immune system recognize it, you will also reap the benefits of its antioxidant properties.

The difference between “good” and “bad” squalene is the route by which it enters your body. Injection is an abnormal route of entry which incites your immune system to attack all the squalene in your body, not just the vaccine adjuvant.

Your immune system will attempt to destroy the molecule wherever it finds it, including in places where it occurs naturally, and where it is vital to the health of your nervous system.[viii]

Gulf War veterans with Gulf War Syndrome (GWS) received anthrax vaccines which contained squalene.[ix] MF59 (the Novartis squalene adjuvant) was an unapproved ingredient in experimental anthrax vaccines and has since been linked to the devastating autoimmune diseases suffered by countless Gulf War vets.[x]

The Department of Defense made every attempt to deny that squalene was indeed an added contaminant in the anthrax vaccine administered to Persian Gulf war military personnel – deployed and non-deployed – as well as participants in the more recent Anthrax Vaccine Immunization Program (AVIP).

However, the FDA discovered the presence of squalene in certain lots of AVIP product. A test was developed to detect anti-squalene antibodies in GWS patients, and a clear link was established between the contaminated product and all the GWS sufferers who had been injected with the vaccine containing squalene.

A study conducted at Tulane Medical School and published in the February 2000 issue of Experimental Molecular Pathology included these stunning statistics:

“ … the substantial majority (95%) of overtly ill deployed GWS patients had antibodies to squalene. All (100%) GWS patients immunized for service in Desert Shield/Desert Storm who did not deploy, but had the same signs and symptoms as those who did deploy, had antibodies to squalene.

In contrast, none (0%) of the deployed Persian Gulf veterans not showing signs and symptoms of GWS have antibodies to squalene. Neither patients with idiopathic autoimmune disease nor healthy controls had detectable serum antibodies to squalene. The majority of symptomatic GWS patients had serum antibodies to squalene.”[xi]

According to Dr. Viera Scheibner, Ph.D., a former principle research scientist for the government of Australia:

“… this adjuvant [squalene] contributed to the cascade of reactions called “Gulf War Syndrome,” documented in the soldiers involved in the Gulf War.

The symptoms they developed included arthritis, fibromyalgia, lymphadenopathy, rashes, photosensitive rashes, malar rashes, chronic fatigue, chronic headaches, abnormal body hair loss, non-healing skin lesions, aphthous ulcers, dizziness, weakness, memory loss, seizures, mood changes, neuropsychiatric problems, anti-thyroid effects, anaemia, elevated ESR (erythrocyte sedimentation rate), systemic lupus erythematosus, multiple sclerosis, ALS (amyotrophic lateral sclerosis), Raynaud’s phenomenon, Sjorgren’s syndrome, chronic diarrhoea, night sweats and low-grade fevers.”[xii]

Post Vaccination Follow-Up Might as Well Be Non-Existent

There is virtually no science to support the safety of vaccine injections on your long-term health or the health of your children. Follow-up studies last on average about two weeks, and look only for glaring injuries and illnesses.

Autoimmune disorders like those seen in Gulf War Syndrome frequently take years to diagnose due to the vagueness of early symptoms. Complaints like headaches, fatigue and chronic aches and pains are symptoms of many different illnesses and diseases.

Don’t hold your breath waiting for vaccine purveyors and proponents to look seriously at the long-term health consequences of their vaccination campaigns.

What You Can Do to Protect Yourself and Your Family

Visit the National Vaccination Information Center (NVIC) site and join in the fight against mandatory swine flu vaccinations.

Educate yourself about influenza strains, vaccination risks, and the public health laws in your state that may require you or your children to undergo either mandatory vaccination or quarantine.

Take care of your health to reduce or eliminate your risk of contracting the flu. The key is to keep your immune system strong by following these guidelines:

Eliminate sugar and processed foods from your diet. Sugar consumption has an immediate, debilitating effect on your immune system.
Take a high quality source of animal-based omega 3 fats like Krill Oil.
Exercise. Your immune system needs good circulation in order to perform at its best for you.
Optimize your vitamin D levels. Vitamin D deficiency is the likely cause of seasonal flu viruses. Getting an optimal level of vitamin D will help you fight infections of all kinds.
Get plenty of good quality sleep.
Deal with stress effectively. If you feel overwhelmed by stress, your body will not have the reserves it needs to fight infection.
Wash your hands. But not with an antibacterial soap. Use a pure, chemical-free soap.

qeutey
01-08-2009, 01:58 PM
Some good Q+A's here.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090724/vaccine_faq_090725/20090725

jesuitsdidit
01-08-2009, 02:44 PM
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other recent articles

-The Motion for a Preliminary Injunction to stop forced mass vaccinations in the USA has been filed at the US District Court of New Jersey * Injunction can be adapted to other countries
August 1, 2009

-New Zealand prepares demonstration against Baxter vaccinations around time when children go back to school
August 1, 2009
very long article

-WalMart works with WHO/FEMA and offers its 4000 stores for “innoculation sites”
August 1, 2009

-Baxter’s profits soar thanks to forced mass vaccinations against the “swine flu” Baxter itself recommended to WHO
August 1, 2009
long article

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ps children under 2 now typically receive 25 vaccinations - david icke..

jesuitsdidit
01-08-2009, 02:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnnbHRR0Eqs&NR=1

David Icke Talks About Forced Swine Flu Vaccine

enterhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnnbHRR0Eqs&NR=1

july 12 09

whitewolf
01-08-2009, 03:21 PM
According to this news report today all Greek citizens and residents will be forced to submit to a swine flu jab, no exceptions, despite no deaths as a result of infections thus far.

It'll stand to reason that no-one will then be allowed to visit the country without being able to prove somehow that they've been vaccinated.
It's easy to see how the Greek plan will spread and that the PTB really are determined to get their muck into everyone's bloodstream.

Greece to vaccinate population for swine flu

http://tvnz.co.nz/health-news/greece-vaccinate-population-swine-flu-2881876#

Greece will vaccinate its entire population of 12 million against the H1N1 swine flu pandemic which has swept around the world in weeks, killing hundreds of people, the country's health minister said on Friday.

The Mediterranean country, which receives about 15 million tourists every year, has confirmed more than 700 swine flu cases and no deaths, but world health experts say the true number of cases globally is far higher as only a few patients get tested.

"We decided that the entire population, all citizens and residents, without any exception, will be vaccinated against the flu," Health Minister Dimitris Avramopoulos said after a ministerial meeting.

Greece has already earmarked 40 million euros for vaccines and has placed orders with Novartis, Glaxo and Sanofi for 8 million vaccine doses, to be received gradually by January.

Vaccine experts say people will likely need two doses of vaccine to be protected from H1N1 swine flu, so Greece would need a total of 24 million doses to vaccinate its entire population. Other countries are taking similar steps.

"Greece will order 16 million more doses from the same companies in the future," a health ministry official who declined to be named told Reuters.

"We are only waiting for the European Union's approval to start vaccinating everyone."

The European Medicines Agency has begun reviewing pandemic flu vaccines under development, aiming to get them approved before the flu season starts, sometime in September.

The health ministry official said children, the elderly and ailing would be the first to be vaccinated.

About 800 people have died worldwide since the outbreak of the flu in April.

NO FUCKING WAY ARE THEY STICKING A NEEDLE IN MY ARM, THE BUBBLE BASTARDS :mad::mad::mad:

I've bought tickets to fly from Greece to the UK in the last week of August, it's becoming a serious concern whether a vaccination will be required to enter or leave UK and/or Greece.

At the moment it is illegal for airlines to refuse boarding on health grounds, how long this will last though is questionable.

If this goes ahead it looks like I'll still be dreaming of a pint Guiness and a packet of cheese and onion crisps :(

qeutey
01-08-2009, 03:35 PM
NO FUCKING WAY ARE THEY STICKING A NEEDLE IN MY ARM, THE BUBBLE BASTARDS :mad::mad::mad:

I've bought tickets to fly from Greece to the UK in the last week of August, it's becoming a serious concern whether a vaccination will be required to enter or leave UK and/or Greece.


They won't have any vaccine before September and then it will only be in small quantities and offered to the vulnerable who want it and sign documentation to say they accept the risks.

hierophant
01-08-2009, 03:45 PM
here in germany, a slight progress has taken place: the editor of a pharmaceutical magazine has just criticized the mass vaccination, he warned about the dangers of the vaccine and called the vaccination plan a large scale experiment with the population!!! this is all over the newspapers, really don't know to make of it...

resistance
01-08-2009, 04:16 PM
This has no doubt been previously posted, but will post anyway for anybody who wants to read it.

Vaccinations: Deadly Immunity, by Robert F. Kennedy, jr.


In June 2000, a group of top government scientists and health officials gathered for a meeting at the isolated Simpsonwood conference center in Norcross, Georgia. Convened by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the meeting was held at this Methodist retreat center, nestled in wooded farmland next to the Chattahoochee River, to ensure complete secrecy. The agency had issued no public announcement of the session — only private invitations to fifty-two attendees. There were high-level officials from the CDC and the Food and Drug Administration, the top vaccine specialist from the World Health Organization in Geneva and representatives of every major vaccine manufacturer, including GlaxoSmithKline, Merck, Wyeth and Aventis Pasteur. All of the scientific data under discussion, CDC officials repeatedly reminded the participants, was strictly “embargoed.” There would be no making photocopies of documents, no taking papers with them when they left.

The federal officials and industry representatives had assembled to discuss a disturbing new study that raised alarming questions about the safety of a host of common childhood vaccines administered to infants and young children. According to a CDC epidemiologist named Tom Verstraeten, who had analyzed the agency’s massive database containing the medical records of 100,000 children, a mercury-based preservative in the vaccines — thimerosal — appeared to be responsible for a dramatic increase in autism and a host of other neurological disorders among children. “I was actually stunned by what I saw,” Verstraeten told those assembled at Simpsonwood, citing the staggering number of earlier studies that indicate a link between thimerosal and speech delays, attention-deficit disorder, hyperactivity and autism. Since 1991, when the CDC and the FDA had recommended that three additional vaccines laced with the preservative be given to extremely young infants — in one case, within hours of birth — the estimated number of cases of autism had increased fifteenfold, from one in every 2,500 children to one in 166 children. Read more… http://www.pandemicfluonline.com/?p=510#more-510

jesuitsdidit
01-08-2009, 04:39 PM
Home SILVER generator..

www.naturesalternatives.com/silver/colloidalsilver.html

cleft_asunder
01-08-2009, 05:34 PM
My body can't take any more either. Crippling systemic RA started about a fortnight after I took a Havrix shot. You have to have three shots and each time it got worse and worse. I was crook almost straight away with some flu like symptoms and they cleared and were replaced with all the joint problems and organ damage. I asked my doc if it was lupus - he said he still isn't sure but when it gets this bad it doesn't matter. All that said no doctor anywhere will admit it was the Havrix - just coincidence... as if. It's my fault for believing them but it wont happen again.

They will NOT lie to me anymore or get my money either. Not for shots or for their poxy 'cures'.

You likely have mercury poisoning from the shot. At least that's what I have. It fucked me up pretty good it did. You should do some chelation to see if it makes you feel better. But if you have mercury fillings in your teeth, forget about it. You will do more harm than good.

cleft_asunder
01-08-2009, 05:39 PM
Im starting to wonder if the shite weather in the UK this summer has been engineered so that we receive less direct sunlight and therefore are less able to build up a natural defence against the swine flu (Vitamin D).

Im also starting to wonder if these vaccinations that will be pushed on to people are going to affect peoples ability to 'think' for themselves, effectively turning people into mind controlled zombies.

The talk of vaccinations becoming mandatory is starting to freak me out. Im mentally preparing myself for the fact that I might get murdered for refusing to take the vaccination.

But that's always been the agenda. Nothing new. Here in the states, the Illuminati fooled Americans into fearing the sun. They walk around with hats and sunglasses as if they are vampires. Then they have their coffin cars with black tint. Hey, what you don't know WILL hurt you. Ignorance is not immunity.

Fuck it. I'm not taking the vaccine, period. Out of the question! Perhaps I'll go out into the desert and take my chances there. I would sooner die than become a zombie and/or face chronic health problems.

arty2000
01-08-2009, 06:26 PM
But that's always been the agenda. Nothing new. Here in the states, the Illuminati fooled Americans into fearing the sun. They walk around with hats and sunglasses as if they are vampires. Then they have their coffin cars with black tint. Hey, what you don't know WILL hurt you. Ignorance is not immunity.

Fuck it. I'm not taking the vaccine, period. Out of the question! Perhaps I'll go out into the desert and take my chances there. I would sooner die than become a zombie and/or face chronic health problems.

same here:)

resistance
01-08-2009, 06:54 PM
Im starting to wonder if the shite weather in the UK this summer has been engineered so that we receive less direct sunlight and therefore are less able to build up a natural defence against the swine flu (Vitamin D).

Im also starting to wonder if these vaccinations that will be pushed on to people are going to affect peoples ability to 'think' for themselves, effectively turning people into mind controlled zombies.

The talk of vaccinations becoming mandatory is starting to freak me out. Im mentally preparing myself for the fact that I might get murdered for refusing to take the vaccination.

I am in no doubt that the weather is tying in with everything else thats going on at the momment. Look at the skin cancer scare that they brainwashed many with. I never fell for it, I love the sun and since I was a kid spend all day out in it with with no ill effects whatsoever. Infact I believe it had great benefits on my health, because I look very young for my age. I'm 42 and people say I look more like 30, some people don't believe me when I tell them my age, they think Im joking and laugh, really!! I love spending the day on a beach in the sun.
I believe they are blocking the sun from us, the sun radiates positive energy life force and they don't like us being positive, although they tell us the contrary.

bicycle
01-08-2009, 08:46 PM
Plans for “vaccine” bracelets to be forced on people at road blocks
By birdflu666

Former Kansas State Trooper Greg Evensen reports that there are plans for road-blocks to force vaccines with military personnel putting bracelets on people. Those who refuse to take the steel band with a microchip will be put on a prison bus and taken to a quarantine camp.

Evensen also says he believes that many law enforcement officers will reject using this “Gestapo” approach on their fellow citizens, and will question the legitimacy of the orders of what looks like a bunch of criminals in federal government who appear to be seeking to retain their grip on power by setting up an apparatus of state terror, all too reminiscent of that if Nazi Germany where the inmates of concentration camps like Buchenwald were killed by injections in the heart.

Law enforcement officers anxious to restore law and order and arrest really dangerous criminals should look no further than at the people sitting in the top echelons of government, he hints.

“Have you been made aware of the massive roadblock plans to stop all travelers for a vaccine bracelet (stainless steel band with a micro-chip on board) that will force you to take the shot? Refuse it? You will be placed on a prison bus and taken to a quarantine camp. What will you do when your children are NOT allowed into school without the shot? What will you do when you are not allowed into the workplace without the vaccine paperwork? Buy groceries? Go to the bank? Shop anywhere?? Get on a plane, bus or train? Use the toilet in the mall? Nope. Police officers will become loathed, feared, despised and remembered for their “official” duties,” writes Evensen.

http://www.newswithviews.com/Evensen/greg142.htm

“Note: There are significant numbers of officers at all levels that simply detest the forced training at FEMA centers, the requirements to stop Patriots and others simply because they “look” dangerous, and are exercising free speech statements on their vehicles. By whose ultimate authority does this take place? By whose ultimate judgment is it that it is necessary to harass INNOCENT drivers and families? The public sees this Gestapo mentality as far more of a danger than any stickers they put on their vehicles? Where are all these “faithful” enforcers of the law when it comes to confronting the unlawful, unconstitutional, unjustifiable, and unmerciful rotten bunch of usurpers, communists, atheists, deviated, immoral scungebuckets that are walking the halls of Congress, the White House, and the Federal Courts? How is it that the “get ‘em at any cost” morons at Homeland Security have created an environment in amerika that is an unwarranted intrusion of power in 186 other nations?

So, once again, I implore those officers of the law who are in grave doubt about the legitimate authenticity of their superiors in any agency, to simply read the constitution, re-read their oath of office, seek out retired officers for guidance, and remember this very carefully—to brutalize citizens in the pursuit of order, is a guaranteed recipe for resistance. PLEASE do not pit yourselves (all 650,000 officers at all levels in the US) against a seething and angry populace who outnumber you 5000 to 1. Believe me; you want all of us working with you, not against you.”

http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/2009/07/30/plans-for-vaccine-bracelets-to-be-forced-on-people-at-road-blocks/

particlepopup
01-08-2009, 08:47 PM
Im so sorry your sister isnt listening :(

Ive spent months talking my mum round this, fortunately she has the wisdom to look into the info I give to her and has completely come round. this in turn has had an effect on my littlest sister who is coming round also.

If I had been at the surgery where you went to, Im afraid I would have laughed and feigned the odd sneeze here and there :cool: :D

Thank you and to dude also, ive been papping on for ages luckily my dad agrees, mi mother the same as mi sis but ill just " keep goo'in wit yed down" as we say, hopefully the penny will drop.:) Next time i go to the surgery im goin to go in a plastic bag with loads of pretend snot oozing out like neil from the young ones episode of "sick"!!!

bicycle
01-08-2009, 09:06 PM
In this interview with David Icke the main topic is focused on the current Swine Flu/H1N1.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z3t-bW1JxU&feature=related

cleft_asunder
01-08-2009, 10:09 PM
I am in no doubt that the weather is tying in with everything else thats going on at the momment. Look at the skin cancer scare that they brainwashed many with. I never fell for it, I love the sun and since I was a kid spend all day out in it with with no ill effects whatsoever. Infact I believe it had great benefits on my health, because I look very young for my age. I'm 42 and people say I look more like 30, some people don't believe me when I tell them my age, they think Im joking and laugh, really!! I love spending the day on a beach in the sun.
I believe they are blocking the sun from us, the sun radiates positive energy life force and they don't like us being positive, although they tell us the contrary.

So what do you do for sun screen? I know that the skin eventually gets used to it and turns brown, but for most of us we have white skin and we will burn easily. Mud is one option, as is natural sunscreen.

And I agree, the sun is very good.

jesuitsdidit
01-08-2009, 10:35 PM
So what do you do for sun screen?

no need 4 sunscreen
either adapt slowly
or go out, get burnt for a few days
then yr skin adjusts naturally

if you truly have sensitive skin you'll probably never be able to take too much sun..

beldazar
01-08-2009, 11:08 PM
Thank you and to dude also, ive been papping on for ages luckily my dad agrees, mi mother the same as mi sis but ill just " keep goo'in wit yed down" as we say, hopefully the penny will drop.:) Next time i go to the surgery im goin to go in a plastic bag with loads of pretend snot oozing out like neil from the young ones episode of "sick"!!!

Hahaha, I remember that episode, It was gross!
I loved the young Ones :D

jimmi
01-08-2009, 11:48 PM
Don't let yourself get burnt by the sun! If you can feel the effect of the sun on your skin after a nice sunny day then you've probably overexposed yourself, so then you need to split open a leaf from one of the aloe vera (barbadensis millar) plants that you grow for their numerous health benefits ('cos you 've found out the truth about one of 'their' oldest and best kept secrets, that they carved into the walls of Rosslyn chapel years before they 'discovered' the continent where it is native) and wipe it all over the affected area(s) of your skin and marvel at how quickly it soaks in while also being amazed at how soothing it feels ;) and days later , when you haven't peeled and the skin on your face is as smooth as a baby's bum you'll want to tell everyone you know how good it is but they won't believe you 'cos you're just a mad conspiracy nut , oh why do I f@+$%ng bother?



:D

call2571
02-08-2009, 01:01 AM
Sorry if it has been posted already but it is so bad I couldn't resist.

America hasn't suffered many swine flu deaths because they are already use a lot of commercial vaccines .:rolleyes:

http://www.russiatoday.com/Top_News/2009-04-28/Scientist_predicted_swine_flu_in_2004___RT_special _interview.html

auroraawe
02-08-2009, 05:16 AM
Not only did I cultivate a little too much " tan" today but when I reached for the pure alo vera to sooth my skin afterwards....I took it out of the refridgerator.
I highly recommend keeping the aloe vera gel in the fridge. ---aaaaah.

whitewolf
02-08-2009, 11:50 AM
They won't have any vaccine before September and then it will only be in small quantities and offered to the vulnerable who want it and sign documentation to say they accept the risks.

"We decided that the entire population, all citizens and residents, without any exception, will be vaccinated against the flu," Health Minister Dimitris Avramopoulos said after a ministerial meeting.

Where did you get that info from geutey?
I can't see it happening to be honest. A headline in one of last Sundays mass media newspapers was; 'Swine Flu; Fear and Business'
I hope the bubbles are switched on about this.
David Icke's Athens talk will be timely.

killmicrosoft
02-08-2009, 12:26 PM
They won't have any vaccine before September and then it will only be in small quantities and offered to the vulnerable who want it and sign documentation to say they accept the risks.

"We decided that the entire population, all citizens and residents, without any exception, will be vaccinated against the flu," Health Minister Dimitris Avramopoulos said after a ministerial meeting.

Where did you get that info from geutey?
I can't see it happening to be honest. A headline in one of last Sundays mass media newspapers was; 'Swine Flu; Fear and Business'
I hope the bubbles are switched on about this.
David Icke's Athens talk will be timely.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1203345/Children-treated-Tamiflu-suffer-nightmares-nausea.html?ITO=1490 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1203345/Children-treated-Tamiflu-suffer-nightmares-nausea.html?ITO=1490)

http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-SwineFlu/idUSTRE56U3VV20090731

whitewolf
02-08-2009, 12:43 PM
[QUOTE=whitewolf;1163909]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1203345/Children-treated-Tamiflu-suffer-nightmares-nausea.html?ITO=1490 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1203345/Children-treated-Tamiflu-suffer-nightmares-nausea.html?ITO=1490)

http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-SwineFlu/idUSTRE56U3VV20090731

Thanks for the links killmicrosoft, however neither of them say;
'it will only be in small quantities and offered to the vulnerable who want it and sign documentation to say they accept the risks.' as geutey stated. The statement from the bubble minister of (ill)health mentions the vaccination of the whole population 'without exception' starting with vulnerable groups and as I read it Greece is no different from any other EU countries in that it is waiting for the go-ahead from Brussels. So that sounds to me that if Greece starts a mandatory vaccination programme so will all other EU countries.

On closer inspection it seems I knee jerked re-acted to yet more distortion of the facts as presented by a news website.:rolleyes:
Also seems I'll get to taste a freshly pulled pint of Guiness :D

3stepsahead
02-08-2009, 02:00 PM
the medical watchdogs worldwide says they have stopped recording swine flu incidents.
"this is only the tip of the iceberg" says experts

non english source : "we believe millions have been infected"
http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/utenriks/1.6716452

http://www.nrk.no/contentfile/file/1.6704127!f169CropList/img650x367.jpg



you may move this to a more fitting area, sorry just posted without thinking ^^

qeutey
02-08-2009, 02:16 PM
Thanks for the links killmicrosoft, however neither of them say;
'it will only be in small quantities and offered to the vulnerable who want it and sign documentation to say they accept the risks.' as geutey stated. The statement from the bubble minister of (ill)health mentions the vaccination of the whole population 'without exception'

"Without exception" meant that it would even be offered for free to illegal immigrants. Maybe he had an assumption that most people would want it or something was lost in the translation. I am sure you can research the limited numbers and written application aspects because hopefully we all know better than to beleive a few internet links.

whitewolf
02-08-2009, 04:16 PM
"Without exception" meant that it would even be offered for free to illegal immigrants. Maybe he had an assumption that most people would want it or something was lost in the translation. I am sure you can research the limited numbers and written application aspects because hopefully we all know better than to beleive a few internet links.

That's a good point qeutey, it's so out of character for the Greek government to give anything away free, especially to illegal immigrants. What are these 'written application' apects though? I haven't read anything that even alludes them. Where did you get that bit of info?

Here is the Reuters article, note the type in bold (mine) and also the line in bold red. Red for danger, having just read the DI newsletter I reckon the Lisbon Treaty will allow mandatory vaccination to be implemented throughout Europe. That's why Greece says it's waiting for approval.


ATHENS (Reuters) - Greece will vaccinate its entire population of 12 million against the H1N1 swine flu pandemic which has swept around the world in weeks, killing hundreds of people, the country's health minister said on Friday.

The Mediterranean country, which receives about 15 million tourists every year, has confirmed more than 700 swine flu cases and no deaths, but world health experts say the true number of cases globally is far higher as only a few patients get tested.

"We decided that the entire population, all citizens and residents, without any exception, will be vaccinated against the flu," Health Minister Dimitris Avramopoulos said after a ministerial meeting.

Greece has already earmarked 40 million euros for vaccines and has placed orders with Novartis, Glaxo and Sanofi for 8 million vaccine doses, to be received gradually by January.

Vaccine experts say people will likely need two doses of vaccine to be protected from H1N1 swine flu, so Greece would need a total of 24 million doses to vaccinate its entire population. Other countries are taking similar steps.

"Greece will order 16 million more doses from the same companies in the future," a health ministry official who declined to be named told Reuters. "We are only waiting for the European Union's approval to start vaccinating everyone."

The European Medicines Agency has begun reviewing pandemic flu vaccines under development, aiming to get them approved before the flu season starts, sometime in September.

The health ministry official said children, the elderly and ailing would be the first to be vaccinated.

About 800 people have died worldwide since the outbreak of the flu in April.

(Reporting by Renee Maltezou; Editing by Jon Boyle)

whitewolf
02-08-2009, 04:46 PM
Geutey, I just learnt that one of todays (sunday) mainstream newspapers is stating that vaccination will be by consent only and recipients will have to sign a written declaration that they accept this vaccination and it's associated risks.
The reuters article and this article seem to be at variance, interesting.
Let's see what happens....

timelord
02-08-2009, 04:48 PM
Funny how 'Human Rights' legislation, as in the right not to be assaulted with a dangerous needle, is never mentioned when 'its for the good of the country'.

qeutey
02-08-2009, 04:53 PM
That's a good point qeutey, it's so out of character for the Greek government to give anything away free, especially to illegal immigrants. What are these 'written application' apects though? I haven't read anything that even alludes them. Where did you get that bit of info?



ok, I'll give some links:

"He later added that the vaccine would be administered to all submitting a written application accompanied by a medical evaluation."

http://www.xpatathens.com/news/20368


The "EU approval" is to use the vaccine not to force it on people who don't want it.

"The European Medicines Agency, the EU's top drug regulatory body, is accelerating the approval process for swine flu vaccine, and countries such as Britain, Greece, France and Sweden say they'll start using the vaccine after it's greenlighted - possibly within weeks."


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iCajXBnuqbQEUf_cH4_dblpysz_gD99MCRJO1

meksar
02-08-2009, 06:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F3hSqSg--M

whitewolf
02-08-2009, 07:22 PM
ok, I'll give some links:

"He later added that the vaccine would be administered to all submitting a written application accompanied by a medical evaluation."

http://www.xpatathens.com/news/20368


The "EU approval" is to use the vaccine not to force it on people who don't want it.

"The European Medicines Agency, the EU's top drug regulatory body, is accelerating the approval process for swine flu vaccine, and countries such as Britain, Greece, France and Sweden say they'll start using the vaccine after it's greenlighted - possibly within weeks."


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iCajXBnuqbQEUf_cH4_dblpysz_gD99MCRJO1

Well that's a relief then :rolleyes:
cheers qeutey

anglosaxon
03-08-2009, 09:23 AM
Just thought you guys would be interested to know that it seems the fear mongering is going both ways, as is the censorship.

This article

http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/2009/07/30/swiss-army-stockpiles-swine-flu-vaccines-in-preparation-for-mass-forced-vaccination-in-autumn/

Which states that the Swiss government is going to introduce 'mandatory' vaccinations, gets the news from this source:

http://bazonline.ch/schweiz/standard/Erste-Impfspritzen-in-der-Schweiz-eingetroffen/story/22051646

On reading this source...which is in German, ( I have a German pal so it helped, but if you dont just use a translation website) you'll see no mention of mandatory vacinations what-so-ever, in fact, it says that people will be given the free choice. So is someone scare mongering? On reading this I left a comment, much the same as above, which has now been removed. Does my comment not support the line the website is sending out? Oh well..cant have that can we!!! ;)

JUst thought you'd all like to know. Remember peeps, dont take anything at face value.

whitewolf
03-08-2009, 11:08 AM
Anglosaxon, I think you are onto something there. After yesterdays flurry of emails and articles, I'm coming to the conclusion that the fear mongering is going on on all sides, the press are having a real good time with this. And I have to say DI is not helping either. He may be giving us information but I feel there's not much said to help us see it from a wider perspective too. The exhilaration, the titillation felt by reading all this stuff can become addictive, perhaps we're all too bored. The only solution imho, is to try to stay centred, open hearted and above all loving. We need to be informed but not to the extent that we feel fear, there has to be a balance.

After all it's all an illusion anyway, one we are all contributing to with our thoughts and emotions.

See my thread this am for a balance;

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=75845

vera susa
03-08-2009, 12:22 PM
Greece will vaccinate its entire population of 12 million against the H1N1 swine flu pandemic which has swept around the world in weeks, killing hundreds of people, the country's health minister said on Friday.

The Mediterranean country, which receives about 15 million tourists every year, has confirmed more than 700 swine flu cases and no deaths, but world health experts say the true number of cases globally is far higher as only a few patients get tested.

"We decided that the entire population, all citizens and residents, without any exception, will be vaccinated against the flu," Health Minister Dimitris Avramopoulos said after a ministerial meeting.

Greece has already earmarked 40 million euros for vaccines and has placed orders with Novartis, Glaxo and Sanofi for 8 million vaccine doses, to be received gradually by January.

Vaccine experts say people will likely need two doses of vaccine to be protected from H1N1 swine flu, so Greece would need a total of 24 million doses to vaccinate its entire population. Other countries are taking similar steps.

"Greece will order 16 million more doses from the same companies in the future," a health ministry official who declined to be named told Reuters.

"We are only waiting for the European Union's approval to start vaccinating everyone."
Advertisement

The European Medicines Agency has begun reviewing pandemic flu vaccines under development, aiming to get them approved before the flu season starts, sometime in September.

The health ministry official said children, the elderly and ailing would be the first to be vaccinated.

About 800 people have died worldwide
since the outbreak of the flu in April.

http://tvnz.co.nz/health-news/greece-vaccinate-population-swine-flu-2881876

http://www.forexyard.com/en/reuters_inner.tpl?action=2009-07-31T144421Z_01_LV531877_RTRIDST_0_FLU-GREECE-VACCINE


"About 800 people have died worldwide":

WAY UNDER the ANNUAL AVERAGE, for NORMAL FLU!

But still,
when it comes to sorting the sheep from the goats,
the goats will go, "SKIN FOR SKIN"
and 'trust man' to "save" their
ALREADY DYING BEFORE BEING BORN,
ROTTING FLESH 'bodies'...
for a couple or few more sick, sad years!

silent strength
03-08-2009, 12:52 PM
It may be of interest for everyone to know that there is a homoeopathic remedy called vaccininum (spelling?) which helps to neutralise the effects of vaccination of any sort. You can certainly obtain this easily in the UK (Helios), the 30c potency is usually sufficient (2 or 3 doses should suffice). It doesn't matter whether you were vaccinated 1 yr ago or 60 years ago. I believe the homoeopathic remedy Thuja used immediately after vaccination will prevent the vaccination from working (damaging!).

silent strength
03-08-2009, 01:19 PM
I think we should listen to Anglosaxon and Whitewolf. I too find that a lot of the stuff we are reading here is extremely negative. We need to stop getting whipped up by these things and stay centred. How will it help if we ingest nothing but negativity here which we then pass onto everyone in our lives? We need to be informed, that is important. We do however need to remain balanced.

starpass
03-08-2009, 03:22 PM
I remember having the Flu only once.
It was about 10 years ago, when I got a Flu shot.
Man; was I ever sick.

Knowing this I will never entertain the thought of ever having another Flu shot.

real6
03-08-2009, 03:33 PM
http://www.thelocal.de/sci-tech/20090801-20969.html

The enormous vaccination programme against the A/H1N1 swine flu virus due to start this autumn across Germany is nothing less than a huge experiment, a prominent critic of the pharmaceutical industry says.
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Wolfgang Becker-Brüser, doctor and publisher of the arznei-telegramm magazine which details critiques of the pharmaceutical industry, says current safety testing rules allow for up to a quarter of a million people to have serious reaction against the vaccine.

Conditions set out for the vaccine, which is still being developed, to be licensed for use, are particularly lax, he alleges.

Only those reactions which occur "frequently" – meaning at least once in each 100 test patients, would be noted and considered serious, says Becker-Brüser.

This means that if the target of 25 million Germans being vaccinated is met, nearly 250,000 could have a serious reaction against the vaccine.

His warning comes as a report was released showing that half of children in England who have been given the current flu drug Tamiflu, used to keep the A/H1N1 flu at bay, have suffered side-effects such as nausea, insomnia and nightmares.

Others are also having second thoughts about the wisdom of injecting as much as a third of the population with a brand new vaccine.

Matthias Gruhl, head of the health care office in Bremen state, who is responsible for pandemic planning told Der Spiegel magazine, “If the swine flu stays as harmless as it is now, a mass vaccination programme would not be justified.”

He said current plans were being drawn up on the assumption that a second, much worse wave of infections would come later in the year.

But he said there was no indication that this would actually happen.

There are also suggestions that the vaccine is likely to cost the public purse more than initially calculated, according to Der Spiegel.

The magazine reported that €410 million will be needed for the vaccine from GlaxoSmithKline, making the sum of €650 million set aside by the Health Ministry realistic only if the state health ministries actually undertake the vaccinations.

Should doctors become involved, and the vaccine be ordered via pharmacies, the programme will cost more than €1 billion, the magazine said.

freedom1st
03-08-2009, 06:52 PM
OK, this isn’t good!

The World Health Organization determined in 2005 it has the authority to dissolve sovereign governments and take control should there be a “pandemic”. This applies to any country signed onto WHO….
From the WHO 2005 declaration: (excerpted) “ Under special pandemic plans enacted around the world including the USA, in 2005, national governments are to be dissolved in the event of a pandemic emergency and replaced by special crisis committees, which take charge of the health and security infrastructure of a country, and which are answerable to the WHO and EU in Europe and to the WHO and UN in North America.
If the Model Emergency Health Powers Act is implemented on the instructions of WHI, it will be a criminal offence for Americans to refuse the vaccine. Police are allowed to use deadly force against “criminal” suspects. Here are ten key points associated with MSEHPA:………………

http://farmwars.info/?p=1314

duckandcover
03-08-2009, 07:35 PM
Gives a whole new meaning to the ancient joke -" `knock Knock`- who`s there?- `doctor`- doctor Who?-` Yes thats right!`" :eek::D

jesuitsdidit
03-08-2009, 09:09 PM
op



The World Health Organization determined in 2005 it has the authority to dissolve sovereign governments and take control should there be a “pandemic”. It can Force persons to be vaccinated, treated, or quarantined for infectious diseases.

http://farmwars.info/?p=1314


Refusing vaccination labels you a “criminal”, so says WHO

(C) 2009 Marti Oakley July 30, 2009

The World Health Organization determined in 2005 it has the authority to dissolve sovereign governments and take control should there be a “pandemic”. This applies to any country signed onto WHO….which of course we are. The WHO just raised this non-existent pandemic to level 4.

From the WHO 2005 declaration: (excerpted) “ Under special pandemic plans enacted around the world including the USA, in 2005, national governments are to be dissolved in the event of a pandemic emergency and replaced by special crisis committees, which take charge of the health and security infrastructure of a country, and which are answerable to the WHO and EU in Europe and to the WHO and UN in North America.

If the Model Emergency Health Powers Act is implemented on the instructions of WHO, it will be a criminal offence for Americans to refuse the vaccine. Police are allowed to use deadly force against “criminal” suspects. Here are ten key points associated with MSEHPA:

Under the Model State Emergency Health Powers Act, upon the declaration of a “public health emergency,” governors and public health officials would be empowered to:

Force individuals suspected of harboring an “infectious disease” to undergo medical examinations.

Track and share an individual’s personal health information, including genetic information.

Force persons to be vaccinated, treated, or quarantined for infectious diseases.

Mandate that all health care providers report all cases of persons who harbor any illness or health condition that may be caused by an epidemic or an infectious agent and might pose a “substantial risk” to a “significant number of people or cause a long-term disability.” (Note: Neither “substantial risk” nor “significant number” are defined in the draft.)

Force pharmacists to report any unusual or any increased prescription rates that may be caused by epidemic diseases.

Preempt existing state laws, rules and regulations, including those relating to privacy, medical licensure, and–this is key–property rights.

Control public and private property during a public health emergency, including pharmaceutical manufacturing plants, nursing homes, other health care facilities, and communications devices.

Mobilize all or any part of the “organized militia into service to the state to help enforce the state’s orders.” Ration firearms, explosives, food, fuel and alcoholic beverages, among other commodities.

Impose fines and penalties to enforce their orders.

So there you have it. You are now officially to be declared a criminal if you refuse the vaccine and deadly force can be used against you if you resist. And to think, not only did our federal government agree to this abomination, it was also successful in getting the same laws passed in most states. I will be revisiting this list of powers in a subsequent article as it relates to the coming “healthcare reform”, and other odious pieces of legislation being devised.

This gives me pause to consider this: Could the so-called healthcare reform that the government claims must be done right away, right now, quickly, immediately….no time to waste be tied somehow to this WHO declaration? Hmmmm. I smell a really big rat!

Those pesky FEMA drills…part of a plan?

I am wary of this FEMA drill that is taking place not only for the obvious reasons….but its close proximity to the planned forced vaccinations scheduled to be mandated early this fall. Our own government has expressed its intent to forcibly vaccinate school children as a starter. By all means…..target the most vulnerable first. (Take that any way you like.)

On MSM last evening it was reported that young people between the ages of 19 and 24 are for some reason most susceptible to this lab created virus. I find this curious as this segment of the population is generally the healthiest. Since the “swine” flu has been so thoroughly exposed as lab created they are now just simply calling it the N1 whatever flu. Apparently this first test run of what was supposed to be a global pandemic couldn’t get off the ground: it didn’t spread as was hoped. Of course the same thing happened with SARS and the Bird Flu…..Those didn’t work so now we get the “Swine Flu”, or the N1 Whatever Flu”. Strange how all these flu’s showed up after they dug up bodies from mass graves to see if they really did die from the flu epidemic in 1918. The new and improved version of this virus is now what we are calling N1 Whatever Flu.

Here’s what I believe is about to happen:

A created strain of flu is going to be set loose in selected areas to begin with. As I believe thousands are going to fall ill simultaneously it will be the fear factor needed to bring thousands more in for what they believe is a vaccine that will save them. Those that want to self-quarantine, or who simply refuse the vaccines, will either be incarcerated in FEMA camps or otherwise disposed. The vaccines which have not been tested for safety or effectiveness can and will cause harm to many of those receiving the shots, but will be off limits to lawsuits for harm caused. This will force thousands more in for the vaccinations, out of fear, which are loaded with toxins and pathogens seeking to save themselves from forced incarceration or worse. At some point in this, we will find out that the foreign troops who supposedly only participated in a mock drill, are not only still here on our soil, but their numbers have multiplied.

Martial law will be declared using the unilateral authority granted the president under the John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007, which allows the president to declare an emergency “even if he is the only person to perceive one”. Foreign troops lack the natural inhibition our own military has about firing on US citizens…that’s why they are here. I do not believe this is a mock drill. I think it is actually the planned strategic placement of foreign troops within the US for an anticipated and planned event.

The vented three story rail cars which are claimed to be nothing more than haulers for large SUV type vehicles would come in really handy here. Foreign troops and military equipment could be moved further into the country and put in place without anyone ever knowing they were there until they were needed. Besides, I don’t know of any car haulers that need that much targeted ventilation: humans on the other just might.

I feel that there will be several catastrophic events from about mid-August to the end of October and maybe into November somewhat. At the end of this period, after the American public has been frightened to death, everything will begin coalescing and will culminate at the end of the year.

In the interim: will we see the deaths of thousands upon thousands of American’s and other peoples around the world, if not millions?

I was curious as to why the WHO would move this flu into a pandemic (phase 4) category when there was no evidence that it was pandemic.

(Two weeks ago, WHO advised nations to stop testing for H1N1 and instead to report trends of flu like symptoms.) H1N1 has been very mild, according to the WHO:

“This pandemic has been characterized, to date, by the mildness of symptoms in the overwhelming majority of patients, who usually recover, even without medical treatment, within a week of the onset of symptoms.”

Then came the predictions from our government that the “flu” would probably become much worse this fall. This indicates to me that a new and more virulent strain has been developed and is set to be turned loose. I base this on the evidence that the flu was lab created and would not have occurred naturally combining four unrelated dna strains……the statements by the CDC that they had a vaccine within three weeks of the “outbreak”…..knowing that seed stock for vaccines takes at least 12 weeks to develop and several more weeks to mass produce……and the orders during the last year of the Bush Crime Administration for Tamiflu which supposedly is the cure or prevention for a flu which didn’t exist at the time, at least not publicly.

Whatever has been in the works for several years, if not for decades is about to come to fruition. Grab your butts! This is going to be one bumpy ride!

john connor
04-08-2009, 11:06 AM
Project Camelot “provide(s) a vehicle for researchers and whistleblowers to get their stories out.” Interviewed on its Whistleblower Radio show, Burk Elder Hale claimed that a senior drug company biochemist (unnamed to protect him) told him:

“….an aerosoled precursor has been put into the air and almost everyone has breathed it into their lungs. (When Swine Flu) vaccines (are) administered in the fall, (they’ll) be activated when (their) constituents come into contact with the aerosoled precursor in the body and will cause a rapid spread of the H1N1 influenza A virus. The biochemist is very upset about the matter….and is a very reliable source that needs our utmost protection.”

If true its what I've feared all along....CHEMTRAILS are spreading the virus..dessicated blood cells - the barium to lower our immunes and the 'jab' to acctivate the real virus....well we will know soon enough

rioch78
04-08-2009, 11:37 AM
Not sure if this has been discussed already, but what happens if you have already had swine flu. I would presume that would mean your body has already dealt with the disease and does not need a vaccine. How will anyone know if you have had the flu or not, and if you claim you stayed in bed for 3 days and have had the flu how can anyone prove otherwise.:confused:

21_12_2012
04-08-2009, 11:41 AM
Source:- Yahoo news
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20090804/thl-treatment-resistant-swine-flu-detect-5effa79.html

Treatment resistant swine flu detected in US

Health officials said they had found cases of Tamiflu-resistant swine flu along the US border with Mexico, as India and South Africa announced their first deaths from the A(H1N1) virus."We have found resistance to Tamiflu on the border. We have observed some cases, few to be sure, in El Paso and close to McAllen, Texas," said Maria Teresa Cerqueira, head of the Pan-American Health Organization office in La Jolla, California.

Cases of A(H1N1) that were resistant to the anti-viral medicine have now been found in the United States, Canada, Denmark, Hong Kong and Japan.

Experts had gathered in La Jolla on Monday to discuss the response to the outbreak, and warned that resistant strains were likely emerging because of overuse of antivirals like Tamiflu.

"In the United States Tamiflu is sold with a prescription, but in Mexico and Canada it is sold freely and taken at the first sneeze. Then, when it is really needed, it doesn't work," said Cerqueira.

The Tamiflu-resistant cases were reported as South Africa and India both announced their first fatalities from the A(H1N1) virus, which emerged in Mexico in April and has since spread worldwide, gaining pandemic status.

In South Africa, health authorities said Ruan Muller, a 22-year-old student at Stellenbosch University near Cape Town, had died after contracting the virus.

"He died on the 28th (of July), but there had to be some testing done to ensure the cause of death. It was the A(H1N1) influenza," said Fidel Hadebe, spokesman for South Africa's Department of Health.

With the world's highest number of HIV/AIDS-affected people -- nearly 19 percent of a 49-million-person population -- South Africa is considered particularly at risk because people with compromised immunity are more likely to fall prey to the disease.

South Africa's swine flu caseload has increased fourfold since the country's first case was reported on June 14. The government has said its stockpile of Tamiflu will only be used for the seriously ill, but that schools may also be closed on a case-by-case basis.

In India, authorities said a 14-year-old girl in the western city of Pune became the country's first fatality from the virus.

The teenager first felt unwell on July 21, complaining of a sore throat, runny nose and headaches. She returned to school the following day after the general symptoms improved, the Ministry of Health and Family Welfare said.

She then developed a fever again on July 25 and two days later was admitted to a private clinic for treatment. She was put on a ventilator in an intensive care unit and was treated with Oseltamivir, a generic brand of Tamiflu.

"Her condition deteriorated again with multi-system involvement and (she) expired on the evening of 03.08.09," the ministry said in a statement.

Meanwhile, the Russian state health agency warned the country's football fans to stay away from the national team's World Cup qualifying tie with Wales in Cardiff on September 9.

"This would be an extremely unnecessary and inappropriate undertaking at a time of a flu epidemic," the head of Russia's state health agency Gennady Onishchenko said, according to local news agencies.

Onishchenko expressed fear that "the expressions of emotion on the part of football fans involving intense shouting" could lead to the airborne transmission of the flu virus.

Russia has to-date been relatively spared by the swine flu pandemic, with just 55 confirmed cases in the country.

Experts remain puzzled as to why different countries have not always been affected to the same degree, with England and Scotland both heavily hit proportionately, yet neighboring France's tally appearing light by comparison.

Some have argued that gargantuan sums being spent by rich economies on a disease that is no more lethal than seasonal flu are grotesquely disproportionate when thousands die each day of diseases which receive less media coverage.

john connor
04-08-2009, 11:46 AM
Not sure if this has been discussed already, but what happens if you have already had swine flu. I would presume that would mean your body has already dealt with the disease and does not need a vaccine. How will anyone know if you have had the flu or not, and if you claim you stayed in bed for 3 days and have had the flu how can anyone prove otherwise.:confused:

IF they make it mandatory...and the above post is correct and from what i Have read it is WHO will call the shots NOT Brown / Obama etc...so it will make no difference if you have had the (mild) flu or not...you will have to have the shot...IMO the flu doing the rounds now was to scare the sheep into accepting the jab..get world wide MSM coverage..both now accomplished...the 'vaccine' will combine with the airborn (chemtrailed spread) virus to create the deadly strain....

surfer91
04-08-2009, 12:08 PM
Greece introducing mandatory vaccinations...
If those mother f--ckers even attempt to stick a needle in myself or my family I will snap their necks like a chicken..and yet the drones are queing for this vaccine..

chipstyxx
04-08-2009, 12:37 PM
“We decided that the entire population, all citizens and residents, without any exception, will be vaccinated against the flu,” Health Minister Dimitris Avramopoulos said after a ministerial meeting.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/greece-to-enforce-mandatory-swine-flu-vaccinations.html

I wonder how they plan to enforce this? It's likely that if they manage to do this in Greece, it will follow here but how will they track who has been vaccinated and who hasn't? There's no way they can knock on every door in the country and force this at gunpoint. It's not that I don't think our governments would stoop so low, I just don't understand how it could be carried out in terms of resources and administration etc.

Here's an article from the Greek press;

Swine flu vaccines for everyone
Gov’t calls for inoculation of entire population in September as action plan for pandemic unveiled

Health Minister Dimitris Avramopoulos yesterday heralded the intended vaccination against swine flu of Greece’s entire population of 11 million, including thousands of illegal immigrants, as the government’s action plan for tackling a possible pandemic was unveiled.

“It was decided under the order of the prime minister to vaccinate all citizens and residents of the country, without exception,” Avramopoulos told reporters after an Inner Cabinet meeting chaired by Premier Costas Karamanlis. Avramopoulos added that authorities will order some 24 million doses of the flu vaccine, to secure the recommended two shots for each resident, and will start administering the drugs once they have been approved by international authorities. The drugs are to be administered from mid-September, when deliveries are expected to arrive, starting with health workers and vulnerable citizens, including children, the elderly and the sick. Each citizen will have to sign a form registering for his or her inoculation.
http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_politics_100002_01/08/2009_109461

If you have to apply (and therefore consent) to your vaccination it's hardly a mandatory vaccination. Quite crafty of them really! Surely it will be possible to slip under the radar and avoid this registration process but then there will be a list of people who haven't complied. I think enough of the population will submit to this willingly and that is probably enough, at least for now.

surfer91
04-08-2009, 12:47 PM
When they say mandatory.I dont believe this will mean forced vaccinations.Not yet anyway.What I think they will do is bring in more restrictions.Like when you apply for a job and dont have a flu vaccination cert you will be turned down,welfare- no jab no welfare,this could be a good thing?,.This would probably escalate to other restrictions also...who knows.I wouldnt have it NO MATTER WHAT...

poshrat
04-08-2009, 01:35 PM
Project Camelot “provide(s) a vehicle for researchers and whistleblowers to get their stories out.” Interviewed on its Whistleblower Radio show, Burk Elder Hale claimed that a senior drug company biochemist (unnamed to protect him) told him:

“….an aerosoled precursor has been put into the air and almost everyone has breathed it into their lungs. (When Swine Flu) vaccines (are) administered in the fall, (they’ll) be activated when (their) constituents come into contact with the aerosoled precursor in the body and will cause a rapid spread of the H1N1 influenza A virus. The biochemist is very upset about the matter….and is a very reliable source that needs our utmost protection.”

If true its what I've feared all along....CHEMTRAILS are spreading the virus..dessicated blood cells - the barium to lower our immunes and the 'jab' to acctivate the real virus....well we will know soon enough

I have researched this in great detail and it is NOT true.
Barium is not being sprayed at present only NASA have done tests with Barium and TMA. More linked with haarp than what is being sprayed every where.
Aluminium Oxide yes. Biological agents/bacteria yes. Sulphur Dioxide yes.

Evidence of Barium being sprayed is intense vibrant sunsets.

They can spray Agent US Brucella which would give symptoms like that of the flu.

I am still researching chemtrails. My youtube user account is http://www.youtube.com/user/91177info

Presently there is a link with the aH1N1 swine flu and you may find this video of interest as Obama has now changed the liability laws for vaccine makers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQPjTjYiIPM

john connor
04-08-2009, 02:01 PM
I have researched this in great detail and it is NOT true.
Barium is not being sprayed at present only NASA have done tests with Barium and TMA. More linked with haarp than what is being sprayed every where.
Aluminium Oxide yes. Biological agents/bacteria yes. Sulphur Dioxide yes.

Evidence of Barium being sprayed is intense vibrant sunsets.

They can spray Agent US Brucella which would give symptoms like that of the flu.

I am still researching chemtrails. My youtube user account is http://www.youtube.com/user/91177info

Presently there is a link with the aH1N1 swine flu and you may find this video of interest as Obama has now changed the liability laws for vaccine makers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQPjTjYiIPM

Im not in a position to argue the Barium point as I personally have not had a sample of the chemtrails to take to a Lab and get the findings...all I can base that on is the numerous ammounts of videos / reports from people who have..inc the one off US TV where the local station had it checked out...the only think I will say is until someone can offer 100% proof of what is in the trails and why they are doing it...I will go with the assumption that the trails are the means of spreading this virus and the vaccine the way to mutate it / activate it.....the bottom line is this...there is ONLY ONE Q...do you believe the NWO / illuminati is REAL..if the answer is YES..then why do people assume that the current charade is going to go on indef? my hunch is this really is the start of their final push and the pandemic and enforcement of the vaccine will usher in their changes...people will resist esp in the US and it will require millitary intervention to stop / try to stop the resisters...the UK? I bloody despair...George Romaro should film his next movie here..he wouldnt have to pay for extras