View Full Version : Not all the police are the enemy.
rhydra
17-06-2009, 05:42 PM
Link. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8103731.stm)
A serving detective whose anonymous blog carried criticisms of government ministers and police bureaucracy has been disciplined by his force.
The action, by Lancashire Constabulary, follows the exposure of the blogger "Night Jack" by the Times newspaper.
He was unmasked after the High Court rejected his plea that his anonymity be preserved "in the public interest".
Lancashire Constabulary said the blogger, named as Det Con Richard Horton, had received a written warning.
But it seems that the Times is part of the murderous regime of corruption and something should be done about them.
bagatell
17-06-2009, 05:49 PM
But it seems that the Times is part of the murderous regime of corruption and something should be done about them.
I'm sure the time will come for the Times and all the other NWO collaborators.
As for the police, they will soon have to decide if they are boys in blue or thugs in black.
realitycheck
17-06-2009, 05:59 PM
Police arent the enemy.
Id love to know where most of you are from. Ive been the main witness at 2 hit and runs (both kids died) and the police were brilliant with me, and i got away with a few things after that (not wearing seatbelt and other small stuff) because id helped get some scummy f*ckers locked up.
I know most of you dont want to work and want to sit around snorting coke and smoking ganger all day - so that probably explains your reasoning.
mrindigo
17-06-2009, 06:08 PM
I'm sure the time will come for the Times and all the other NWO collaborators.
As for the police, they will soon have to decide if they are boys in blue or thugs in black.
I like that, nicely said!
mrindigo
17-06-2009, 06:13 PM
It's true that not all police are the enemy.
Here in the U.S state I live in, there was a law that was trying to be passed state-wide which would set a curfew for anyone under the age of 18. The local police chief, and many others, voted no for it. Their reasoning was it was unconstitutional and refused to support it on those grounds. The bill for that crashed and burned and was never instated.
There are still men and women of sound mind on the force, so all is not lost. :)
brainfreeze
17-06-2009, 06:15 PM
Police arent the enemy.
Id love to know where most of you are from. Ive been the main witness at 2 hit and runs (both kids died) and the police were brilliant with me, and i got away with a few things after that (not wearing seatbelt and other small stuff) because id helped get some scummy f*ckers locked up.
I know most of you dont want to work and want to sit around snorting coke and smoking ganger all day - so that probably explains your reasoning.
Or it just makes it easier for you to be so flippant about others who haven't had such lovely police experiences like you have had?
stickwhistler
17-06-2009, 06:29 PM
Police arent the enemy.
Id love to know where most of you are from. Ive been the main witness at 2 hit and runs (both kids died) and the police were brilliant with me, and i got away with a few things after that (not wearing seatbelt and other small stuff) because id helped get some scummy f*ckers locked up.
I know most of you dont want to work and want to sit around snorting coke and smoking ganger all day - so that probably explains your reasoning.
Well speaking only for myself.
For 20 years or so I've been involved in getting the 1,000 or so cases of death in police custody
made accountable - to date exactly 0 cases prosecuted,
in spite of video evidence of police watching a person die in front of them from injuries sustained 'whilst being restrained'.
I have witnessed an documented hundreds of cases of police brutality,
and been subjected to it myself.
I have a proven and upheld complaint against the police,
and successfully sued the cops in the past.
I quite accept that you had a good experience,
with the cops, so have I, but when they act in unison
they always act tribally i.e. their own individual ethics get left in the locker room.
As long as cops allow other cops to break the law,
and cover this up, they are a threat to democracy!
There are thousands of cases in the UK, never mind the rest of the world,
where the cops get away with perverting the course of justice
through lying, losing evidence, not producing evidence in their possession,
colluding with their mates, assault, actual and grievous bodily harm.
In 1981 a near neighbour of mine was kicked to death by 2 enforcement officers! Fact!
Neither was prosecuted because " we cannot be certain who delivered the fatal blow" .....paraphrasing "it would be wrong to prosecute an innocent man
and possibly convict him."
Neither was prosectued for any offence, even though 'the other one' could have given evidence of murder against the kicker.
Apparently it is OK to kill one (civilian) though!
Compare that attitude with that shown to 'the public' by the courts.
As long as cops cover up, pervert justice etc, and remain unaccountable they are agents of TPTB.
I'm glad you had a good experience.
I sincerely hope you never find yourself on the other and of the stick.
As to the insults - a good example of somebody who knows they speak bull-dust
and attack the messenger instead to divert attention from their weak argument.
drhemp
17-06-2009, 06:35 PM
Freedom of speech is going fast in the UK. Public service employees are increasingly not allowed their own opinions or allowed to criticise their employers and in particular not allowed to criticise government ministers. Remember the whistle blower nurse who was struck off recently?
The next target Labour have is the Internet, they want to shut us lot up too.
decim
17-06-2009, 06:39 PM
http://blog.puppetgov.com/wp-content/2009/01/big-brother-obey-2.jpg
ennui
17-06-2009, 06:41 PM
You seem to get two types of people join the police - those that want to help the community, and those that want to drive fast cars, boss people around and pretend they're in Miami Vice - like this wally. (http://www.kentnews.co.uk/kent-news/PCSO-facing-disciplinary-action-for-Facebook-rants-newsinkent25154.aspx?news=local)
I've had experience with both types. I feel sorry for the genuine ones who get a bad name.
Not all are i agree :) Yet there are police who abuse thier powers by attacking the people they swear to protect using thier weapons like they were toys :mad:
mrindigo
17-06-2009, 06:51 PM
Not all are i agree :) Yet there are police who abuse thier powers by attacking the people they swear to protect using thier weapons like they were toys :mad:
This is true. There are many like that. I think the point is, not all are.
steevo
17-06-2009, 06:54 PM
You seem to get two types of people join the police - those that want to help the community, and those that want to drive fast cars, boss people around and pretend they're in Miami Vice - like this wally. (http://www.kentnews.co.uk/kent-news/PCSO-facing-disciplinary-action-for-Facebook-rants-newsinkent25154.aspx?news=local)
I've had experience with both types. I feel sorry for the genuine ones who get a bad name.
I agree with that ennui.
flickflack
17-06-2009, 06:56 PM
I like the police because I don't like criminals. We should have more police over here, and get some criminals in prison. Too much crime is being done here, and the criminals should be dealt with. Criminals are bastards.
I would rather have a police state than the criminal offenders state within the State! Left-wing extremists!
largejack
17-06-2009, 06:56 PM
Police arent the enemy.
Id love to know where most of you are from. Ive been the main witness at 2 hit and runs (both kids died) and the police were brilliant with me, and i got away with a few things after that (not wearing seatbelt and other small stuff) because id helped get some scummy f*ckers locked up.
I know most of you dont want to work and want to sit around snorting coke and smoking ganger all day - so that probably explains your reasoning.
You're suggesting the police lack consistency then?
cafetimes1991
17-06-2009, 06:58 PM
You seem to get two types of people join the police - those that want to help the community, and those that want to drive fast cars, boss people around and pretend they're in Miami Vice - [URL="http://www.kentnews.co.uk/kent-news/PCSO-facing-disciplinary-action-for-Facebook-rants-newsinkent25154.aspx?news=local"]like this wally.[/URL
Absolutely. Some also seem to join, and then turn bad; they are corrupted. :(
ziegenfarm
17-06-2009, 07:01 PM
i've talked to some of the locals and some military with my son. i figured they'd think i was a nut job, but they didn't. most of them have families, too and they've assured me that when the worst comes we're on the same side. whew!
decim
17-06-2009, 07:05 PM
With the advent of Multi Kultra society the standards for police force entry have been lowered, & not just the height requirement.
jolinemaria
17-06-2009, 07:08 PM
I know many nice and brave policemen who do have a serving attitude.
I have seen some pretty horrendous things from others as well.
Biggest problem imo is that they are always loyal towards their own - even if they don't agree with brutality towards civilians from their peers.
Yes, I believe that the time has come for them to choose and stand up against misbehaviour - just as is the case with us civilians, we too have to make choices and speak out.
steevo
17-06-2009, 07:09 PM
I like the police because I don't like criminals. We should have more police over here, and get some criminals in prison. Too much crime is being done here, and the criminals should be dealt with. Criminals are bastards.
I would rather have a police state than the criminal offenders state within the State! Left-wing extremists!
http://maxdunbar.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/fear_poster_med.jpg
"I would rather have a police state than the criminal offenders state"
Surely there is more than just two options ?
jolinemaria
17-06-2009, 07:12 PM
I like the police because I don't like criminals. We should have more police over here, and get some criminals in prison. Too much crime is being done here, and the criminals should be dealt with. Criminals are bastards.
I would rather have a police state than the criminal offenders state within the State! Left-wing extremists!
When we have a policestate then the police will become the criminals!
flickflack
17-06-2009, 07:16 PM
When we have a policestate then the police will become the criminals!
Himmlers SS soldiers for example where not in a police state, they had created a state within the state. Hitler was also a criminal before his rise to power. He should have remained in jail and died there, instead he was released before his time.
chateaux
17-06-2009, 07:17 PM
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS297US297&q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fnightjack.wordpress.com%2F&aq=f&oq=&aqi=
Just click on the "cached" pages part of the google search...
If you want specific information from his pages, try searching like this:
Put this in the google search: site:http://nightjack.wordpress.com/ +KEYWORD OF INTEREST
Just replace KEYWORD OF INTEREST with something interesting... like: Bliar or some other name... Brown
mrindigo
17-06-2009, 07:34 PM
I like the police because I don't like criminals. We should have more police over here, and get some criminals in prison. Too much crime is being done here, and the criminals should be dealt with. Criminals are bastards.
I would rather have a police state than the criminal offenders state within the State! Left-wing extremists!
There's a problem with that though.
Things aren't black and white when one discusses criminals. Criminals come in different disguises and masks. They can come wearing a police uniform with a badge and gun, wearing a business suit, religious robe, and not necessarily the classic guy in black with a big sac of stolen goods on his back.
There is a lot of corruption in nearly every aspect of society. Some of those criminals with seats of power will try and criminalize anyone who questions them, so they themselves are not uncovered and punished. Don't think that by going along with them will automatically give you a 'pass card'. If you have something they want, or do something they don't like, even if you support them, they'll screw you over at the drop of a hat. They don't care because in their minds, you don't matter.
Right and left wing are just terms and means to cause separation and intolerance between the people over petty issues. They're a way to cause civil unrest, potentially leading to said police state. That's your choice to buy into it, but it's good for anyone to know what they're designed for.
Make your own decisions of moral character, and don't outright accept anything before mentally weighing out both sides. :)
wildhorse
17-06-2009, 07:39 PM
I have had both good and bad experiences with the police, when I lived in Middlesbrough, some were really funny and we had a laugh, but others, spesh the women, were more like this.....
http://www.bloodysushi.com/macro/nsfw/america-fuck%20yeah.jpg
Glad to see a good cop speak his mind, pissed to see his bosses and the [nwo] times silence and punish him for it.
jesuitsdidit
17-06-2009, 07:46 PM
You seem to get two types of people join the police - those that want to help the community, and those that want to drive fast cars, boss people around and pretend they're in Miami Vice - like this wally. (http://www.kentnews.co.uk/kent-news/PCSO-facing-disciplinary-action-for-Facebook-rants-newsinkent25154.aspx?news=local)
I've had experience with both types. I feel sorry for the genuine ones who get a bad name.
i believe the majority of police join to serve the community
my belief is you are serving ptb if you fall for hating the police
that is exactly what they want
many things 'done' by the police
r actually done by agents of ptb imo
they have to follow policy, directives, training etc
all handed down by the politicians
who in turn receive their instructions from ptb
blaming police and falling into that trap is not clever
sure there r some who get carried away
sure there r some units closer to ptb
but above all
realise hating the police is exactly what ptb want..
flickflack
17-06-2009, 07:48 PM
There's a problem with that though.
Things aren't black and white when one discusses criminals. Criminals come in different disguises and masks. They can come wearing a police uniform with a badge and gun, wearing a business suit, religious robe, and not necessarily the classic guy in black with a big sac of stolen goods on his back.
There is a lot of corruption in nearly every aspect of society. Some of those criminals with seats of power will try and criminalize anyone who questions them, so they themselves are not uncovered and punished. Don't think that by going along with them will automatically give you a 'pass card'. If you have something they want, or do something they don't like, even if you support them, they'll screw you over at the drop of a hat. They don't care because in their minds, you don't matter.
Right and left wing are just terms and means to cause separation and intolerance between the people over petty issues. They're a way to cause civil unrest, potentially leading to said police state. That's your choice to buy into it, but it's good for anyone to know what they're designed for.
Make your own decisions of moral character, and don't outright accept anything before mentally weighing out both sides. :)
You have a point, but in my opinion, almost every crime could be avoided. The criminal individual is usually either ignorant, narcissistic, insane, nihilist, anarchist or a sociopath.
If a bank robber defends himself by saying he didn't have any money, I couldn't care less if he would end up in jail for the rest of his life. That's not only being ignorant, but arrogant to the righteous people who serve the people and keep others life at risk for their own gain. Bank robbers are potentially murderers (cold-blooded). They all carry weapons and will do almost anything to get their will. They should rot in jail those criminal evil-doers.
Freedom of speech is going fast in the UK. Public service employees are increasingly not allowed their own opinions or allowed to criticise their employers and in particular not allowed to criticise government ministers. Remember the whistle blower nurse who was struck off recently?
The next target Labour have is the Internet, they want to shut us lot up too.
To be honest we have never had freedom of speech in the uk and never will.
i've talked to some of the locals and some military with my son. i figured they'd think i was a nut job, but they didn't. most of them have families, too and they've assured me that when the worst comes we're on the same side. whew!
When worst comes to worst they won't be using our own troops etc on us. They will get troops from an outside source , so they have no problem opening fire. Just as they have done before.
Ian2day
18-06-2009, 08:05 AM
Police arent the enemy.
Id love to know where most of you are from. Ive been the main witness at 2 hit and runs (both kids died) and the police were brilliant with me, and i got away with a few things after that (not wearing seatbelt and other small stuff) because id helped get some scummy f*ckers locked up.
I know most of you dont want to work and want to sit around snorting coke and smoking ganger all day - so that probably explains your reasoning.
I think its you that needs the reality check. Its exactly because of people like you receiving benefit in kind that the system is so fucked up.