Physical Immortality

[lostinstrangeworld]

Maybe we don't have to "die". Maybe we have the power inside to reverse the aging process. Maybe we can simply "vibrate" off into another dimension when the time is right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8fjo9JYrjc

"Time, time is a trick...
How many birthdays did you have? One, you had one day of birth.
You continue to count birthdays, your mind gives up, your body deteriorates.
This is the trick of time.
Man was never suppose to die.
We were given everlasting life".

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[mauviene]

Yea..go to China or India and find out.


All those techniques are still passed on by word of mouth..

It is said the immortals live in Agartha..a holy city beneath the earth with entrances within the orient and India.

[typenicknamehere]

Maybe we have the power inside to reverse the aging process.

I dont see the point of keeping the consciousness in this body ,I like the sound of "going" some place else though.

[size_of_light]

What about this old bastard?

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=407&pictureid=4178

Li Ching-Yuen, The Amazing 250 Year-Old Man

When the Chinese herbalist Li Ching-Yuen died in 1933, newspapers around the world reported the news of his passing. According to his own testimony, he was 197 years old.

An investigation, however, suggested Li had forgotten his actual birthday. Official government records recorded the birth year as 1677, making him 256. Here is a copy of the obituary as printed in the New York Times on May 6, 1933:
LI CHING-YUN DEAD; GAVE HIS AGE AS 197.

“Keep a Quiet Heart, Sit Like a Tortoise, Sleep Like a Dog,” His Advice for a Long Life.

Inquiry Put Age At 256.

Reported to have buried 23 wives and had 180 descendents – sold herbs for first 100 years.

Peiping, May 5 – Li Ching-Yun, a resident of Kaihsien, in the Province of Szechwan, who contended that he was one of the world’s oldest men and said he was born in 1736 – which would make him 197 years old – died today.

A Chinese dispatch from Chungking telling of Mr. Li’s death said he attributed his longevity to peace of mind and that it was his belief every one could live at least a century by attaining inward calm.

Compared with estimates of Li Ching-yun’s age in previous reports from China the above dispatch is conservative. In 1930 it was said Professor Wu Chung-chien, dean of the department of Education in Minkuo University, had found records showing Li was born in 1677 and that Imperial Chinese Government congratulated him on his 150th and 200th birthdays.

A correspondent of The New York Times wrote in 1928 that many of the oldest men in Li’s neighborhood asserted their grandfathers knew him as boys and that he was then a grown man.

According to the generally accepted tales told in his province. Li was able to read and write as a child, and by his tenth birthday had traveled in Kansu, Shansi, Tibet, Annam, Siam and Manchuria gathering herbs. For the first hundred years he continued at this occupation. Then he switched to selling herbs gathered by others.

Wu Pei-fu, the warlord, took Li into his house to learn the secret of living to 250. Another pupil said Li told him to “keep a quiet heart, sit like a tortoise, walk sprightly like a pigeon and sleep like a dog.”

According to one version of Li’s married life he had buried away twenty-three wives and was living with his twenty-fourth, a woman of ’60.’ Another account, which in 1928 credited him with 180 living descendents, comprising eleven generations, recorded only fourteen marriages. This second authority said his eyesight was good; also, that the finger nails of his right hand were very long, and “long” for a Chinese might mean longer than any finger nails ever dreamed of in the United States.

One statement of The Times correspondent which probably caused skeptical readers to believe Li was born more recently than 1677, was that “many who have seen him recently declare that his facial appearance is no different from that of persons two centuries his junior.”

http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/li-ching-yuen-the-amazing-250-year-old-man/

[zero1]

It is possible.

[fr0sty]

the body can survive the amount of your time of your unique thoughts and habits.

[delamo1999]

Maybe we don't have to "die". Maybe we have the power inside to reverse the aging process. Maybe we can simply "vibrate" off into another dimension when the time is right.




We all have the power inside of us to do cellular and tissue regeneration. It is just that TPTB have somehow surpressed our current DNA structure so that our cells and tissues get worn out long before they need too. This coupled with the mass consciousness belief that humans can only live to be 80 years old and anyone who lives beyond that is by pure chance.

What we need to do is change the limiting belief systems that have been put upon us by society, our families, religion, schools, etc so that we can raise our vibrations. With a higher vibration, our DNA structure will change so that such things that we previously deemed as "impossible" are suddenly a new reality.

[haukipesukone]

Why would we want to live forever? Haven't we already suffered long enough?

I think people were happier in the middle ages when they lived only 30-40 years.

[mind1universe]

You live forever anyway, the body dies and is reborn


The body is like a car, its uselses if no one drives it.

Well life expectancy has risen to an average of 84.

Btw imortalitiy is present tense, if you master the present your immortal. Past and future is imortal because that is not you now, you can't control the past and future like you can with your present.

[metacomet]

Immortality is a curse. You shouldn't wish it on your worst enemy.

All of us need to sleep every night and escape to the other side where we dream and forget all about the physical body. All of us need a regular 'time out' from the intense trip that is material reality.

If we don't get this time out we go insane.

All of us need to 'die' every night, and allow our soul to pop out of our body and roam around. If we don't get this sleep, we go insane.

People need to die. Whatever time they go, is the time they needed to go. This physical world is a trap and all of us seek escape through finding spiritual highs and moments of 'happiness'. Although we fear death, it is in fact the ultimate climax of the soul, where feelings of connection, spiritual euphoria and happiness are so intense and prolonged that we seek to escape them by falling back into the earth.

So if you think about it, we come here because we like to cool off before jumping back into the center. The center is extremely cool, very hot, but it's intense... just like physical life we need to let go and start again in cycles. First by napping over and over as babies, then by sleeping - then death.

[mind1universe]

You dont understand imortality.


You can still sleep and be immortal, you can still do all that you are and be immortal.


Been imortal is not physical. You have gotten immortality mixed up with the movie interpretation where a person lives forever in the physical. Thats not possiblie in this universe, simply because it's not the way this universe is.

Livning forever in the physical, does nothing to your soul.

So please get your facts right before you go shooting off hollywood drill.

I'm immortal in the presence of now, because my soul is always presence it does not die or birth. The physical body is never immortal.

[lostinstrangeworld]

Maybe we don't have to "die". Maybe we have the power inside to reverse the aging process. Maybe we can simply "vibrate" off into another dimension when the time is right.

I think a few people have misunderstood what I was trying to say.


But actually, after having read up a little on this stuff (a few years ago) another thought did come to me which was: Is achieving this necessary; is it important?

I don't think it is necessary.

But as infinite beings in an infinite universe with infinite possibilities.....

the choice is there- if we really want.

[fallensoul]

Been manifesting this reality for myself since I was 16, I don't care what people say my goal is to live forever.

I see world as infinite realm of possibilites. I believe conciousness is a tool for arranging the information in the universe consciously. In quantum physics the smallest particles have these properties which made me believe it is so.

Quantum entanglement <- things can be in direct contact even light years apart

Particle existing in two places at once <- people materializing same concepts, this would explain HOW everyone could manifest their own realities without "running out of" some things, simply there can be multiple and more of the same. Existing in different places.

particles disappearing and appearing from nowhere <- information moving somehow outside of our perception, this would explain how new things could manifest to new realms, by just simply coming into existence from nothing

I see conciousness as a center which arranges the information and understands it thru filters of belief and experience. Ultimately the way we do perceive our reality and explain is in the end 100% subjective. It just doesn't seem so with group mentality and people giving same meaning to same things. But somethings remain outside this "collective" but its possible to expand on the personal reality and stray away from the "mass awareness" into something different.

I experienced this "different reality" first hand and went so far that induced a psychosis on myself and couldn't for some time think like a "normal" person, now I regained "myself" back and understand that our beliefs and thoughts shape the reality. The outer reality did not change but the change in my inner reality made everything outside different. We DO create our reality, and I have experienced this.

Also the link between consciousness effecting the outcome in experiments (double slit experiment) why couldn't this concept work on a much larger scale.

Also energy gets never destroyed, so parts of us are already immortal, hard to pinpoint just what is that is from us and never dies, ofcourse people have been calling that part a soul, whatever you call it there is something immortal in/outside us already.

[zero1]

Immortality is a curse. You shouldn't wish it on your worst enemy.

All of us need to sleep every night and escape to the other side where we dream and forget all about the physical body. All of us need a regular 'time out' from the intense trip that is material reality.

If we don't get this time out we go insane.

All of us need to 'die' every night, and allow our soul to pop out of our body and roam around. If we don't get this sleep, we go insane.

People need to die. Whatever time they go, is the time they needed to go.

Physical Immortality does not mean no-death. You can still be killed by force, accident, the destruction or rendering inoperable of your body.

Also, it doesn't mean you won't sleep to regenerate your body, and stay sane.

It just means your body matures and doesn't age (deterioration of cells due to age is called "Senescence") beyond a certain point, ie. you don't "die" due to senescence. You can still (theoretically) die due to poison, dis-ease, etc.

This physical world is a trap and all of us seek escape through finding spiritual highs and moments of 'happiness'. Although we fear death, it is in fact the ultimate climax of the soul, where feelings of connection, spiritual euphoria and happiness are so intense and prolonged that we seek to escape them by falling back into the earth.

So if you think about it, we come here because we like to cool off before jumping back into the center. The center is extremely cool, very hot, but it's intense... just like physical life we need to let go and start again in cycles. First by napping over and over as babies, then by sleeping - then death.

That's the Gnostic view, no doubt; probably very much the Buddhist one too.

But under certain conditions and scientific possibilities, depending on your perspective, physical immortality may be desirable.

If you were wealthy, and had a good life full of excitement & drama & stimulus...etc.

But you'd probably still get tired of sorrow & loss...if you felt it.

[mauviene]

Immortality is a curse. You shouldn't wish it on your worst enemy.

All of us need to sleep every night and escape to the other side where we dream and forget all about the physical body. All of us need a regular 'time out' from the intense trip that is material reality.

If we don't get this time out we go insane.

All of us need to 'die' every night, and allow our soul to pop out of our body and roam around. If we don't get this sleep, we go insane.

People need to die. Whatever time they go, is the time they needed to go. This physical world is a trap and all of us seek escape through finding spiritual highs and moments of 'happiness'. Although we fear death, it is in fact the ultimate climax of the soul, where feelings of connection, spiritual euphoria and happiness are so intense and prolonged that we seek to escape them by falling back into the earth.

So if you think about it, we come here because we like to cool off before jumping back into the center. The center is extremely cool, very hot, but it's intense... just like physical life we need to let go and start again in cycles. First by napping over and over as babies, then by sleeping - then death.

Haha ya..it would be in a way. The core to that reminds me of an old D&D based computer rpg called Planescape Torment in which the main character has been cursed into immortality...pretty interesting philosophically really..I was surprised to be intellectually delighted in a computer game.

[mind1universe]

Immortality means "I am presence"

[mauviene]

Immortality means "I am presence"

Immortality means I am god.

[mind1universe]

Immortality means I am god.

of course.