The methods of satan

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We know that God existed from all eternity. The Bible begins with the statement, "In the beginning God....." (Gen.1:1).

Those are the first four words in the Bible. That is
referring to the ages of eternity past - so far back that our minds cannot even understand it, because our minds can only comprehend time. God existed before time began. But Satan did not exist before time began. Satan is a created being. But does that mean that God created an evil being? No.

That would be impossible. God can never create anything evil. Everything that He creates is perfect. Even Adam and Eve, when they were created were perfect. Likewise, Satan too when he was created, was perfect. He was known then as `The morning star’ , or Lucifer (Isa.14:12). That name has a bad connotation now. But it was not so, way back then when he was first created. He was created as the head of the angels, to lead the angels in the worship of God. God
gave him many supernatural abilities and powers when he was created. But then he fell into sin and became Satan.

But Satan still has those powers today, because God did not take them away from him when he fell. We may wonder why God didn’ t take away those powers from the Devil. The reason is that God doesn’ t usually take back the gifts He gives. Even we human beings would not normally take back a gift that we have given to another - even if that other person turns against us one day! And so Satan uses his power to harm people. And that is why people who get in touch with him can do supernatural things through witchcraft.
It is written concerning Satan, "How you have fallen from heaven, O star of the morning (that was his name - the shining one), O son of the dawn" (Isa.14:12)

As the head of the angels, Lucifer was in God’ s presence constantly. Why did he fall away? The reason is given in the next two verses (Isa.14:13,14) "Because you said in
your heart `I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God....I will be like the Most High’ .... Nevertheless you will be cast down into hell."
Lucifer was more gifted, more beautiful and had more supernatural abilities than all the other angels. He led the angels in the worship of God - until pride entered his heart.

He then began to think, "Only One Person is above me, and that is God Himself. I will rule over Him as well."
That was really a stupid thought that came into his heart. How could he ever ascend above his Creator? But that is how Satan is - quite foolish in many of the things he does and thinks, even though he is so clever!! Many clever people in the world too do a lot of utterly foolish things, spiritually speaking. The more we study about Satan, the more we will see how stupid he is in many of the things he does. Satan was not happy to be where God had placed him. He wanted to ascend to the place where everyone would worship him! He did not say so. He just began to have such
thoughts in his heart. We read that in verse 13. But God looks at our hearts, and he looked at Lucifer’ s heart, and saw what he was aiming at. There is a difference between temptation and sin. Temptation comes initially as a thought
in the mind. It is only when we agree with that thought however that we sin. If, on the other hand, we reject the thought immediately, we do not sin.

For example, have you ever had an evil thought of doing something to pull another person down in the eyes of others, so that you can appear as a better person?
Do you know who was the first person to have such a thought? It was Lucifer. Whom did he want to pull down? Not the angels, because they were already below him. He wanted
to pull God down. To pull people down in order to get on top yourself is the very spirit of Satan. Why do I say that you must know your enemy? Because when such a thought enters your mind, you should recognize that your enemy is trying to get in. The roaring lion is waiting to devour you.
It did not take many years for the highest archangel to become the devil. No. Only a moment. He did not fall gradually, step-by-step. No. He came down like lightning, as
Jesus said - in a moment (Lk.10:18). One moment, he was the shining one. As soon as he began nourishing the thought of becoming like God, immediately he became the devil.

How long does it take for an angel to become a devil?. Not even one second. Just a moment. How long does it take for a really good person to become like the devil? Just a
moment. That’ s all. Remember that. Another passage that tells us about the origin of Satan is Ezekiel 28. There we see Satan called "the king of Tyre" (Ezek.28:12). There are demon powers behind the rulers of this world and at that time Satan himself was behind the ruler of Tyre. And the Lord spoke to Satan who indwelt that human ruler.
The Lord reminded Satan of the time when he was in the garden of Eden (Ezek.28:13) This tells us that Lucifer was in Eden before Adam and Eve were there. And the Lord
reminded Satan of how he had been "perfect in his ways from the day he was created until sin was found in him" (v.16,17). Lucifer’ s heart was lifted up primarily because of his beauty. Is your heart ever lifted up when you look into the mirror and see how good looking you are compared to others?

Beware of that. Thank God for the good gifts he has given you. There’ s nothing wrong in having a good-looking face. But there is everything wrong in being proud of it. For then
you open the door to Satan. Another reason for Lucifer’ s pride was his cleverness. Do you know that the most intelligent among all created being is Satan? There is nothing wrong with being intelligent. We can use our intelligence for the glory of God. But we have no right to be proud of it. We don’ t have to be stupid to serve the Lord. No. Thank God for your intelligence, and thank God for your beauty, but never be proud of either. The third reason for Lucifer’ s conceit was that he had the highest position among all created beings. He failed to recognise that all these three things that he was proud of - his
beauty, his cleverness and his position - were all gifts of God. And that is what many human beings - and many Christians too - fail to recognise. And that’ s how Satan gets a foothold in their lives, and finally destroys them.
So we see that all the sin in the world originated with pride. Not with murder or adultery but with pride. And that’ s why salvation came through Jesus humbling himself.

The way of humility is the way of deliverance from all of Satan’ s schemes and wiles. In Lucifer, we also see the origin of the spirit of discontentment with one’ s appointed lot in life. If we could look at this world from God’ s point of view, we would see the world full of grumbling, complaining, murmuring people everywhere - a spirit that they have all imbibed from Satan. The spirit of rebellion against authority is yet another thing that originated with Lucifer. There was only one authority that Lucifer had above him - and that was God. And he rebelled against that authority. He wanted to be above that authority and to push God down. Do we find that spirit in the human race? The spirit of rebellion against authority is
what has led to numerous revolutions in countries and what has caused strikes in factories. And in these days, we find that rebellious spirit even among students - not only
among college students, but among school students as well, and even among small children in a home. All this is a sure sign that the world is deteriorating. Disrespect for teachers, and for parents and even for elder brothers in the church is rife everywhere. Never forget that it
was this spirit that changed the best of the angels into a devil.

And this spirit can change a good boy or girl into a devil even today. God never makes anyone evil. It is when we open ourselves to the spirit of Satan that we make ourselves evil. And now notice one final characteristic about Lucifer. When he fell, he didn’ t fall alone.

He had company. We read in Revelation 12:4 that he dragged down one-third of the other angels along with him. They too foolishly joined him in his spirit of pride,
discontentment and rebellion. It is the same today. Where one person is evil, he is not content to remain evil by himself alone. He wants to drag others down with him into his misery and evil, as well. A root of bitterness in one person can infect many others, if those others are not watchful (See Heb.12:15).

Namaste

[jack5]

We know that God existed from all eternity. The Bible begins with the statement, "In the beginning God....." (Gen.1:1).

Those are the first four words in the Bible. That is
referring to the ages of eternity past - so far back that our minds cannot even understand it, because our minds can only comprehend time. God existed before time began. But Satan did not exist before time began. Satan is a created being. But does that mean that God created an evil being? No.

That would be impossible. God can never create anything evil. Everything that He creates is perfect. Even Adam and Eve, when they were created were perfect. Likewise, Satan too when he was created, was perfect. He was known then as `The morning star’ , or Lucifer (Isa.14:12). That name has a bad connotation now. But it was not so, way back then when he was first created. He was created as the head of the angels, to lead the angels in the worship of God. God
gave him many supernatural abilities and powers when he was created. But then he fell into sin and became Satan.

But Satan still has those powers today, because God did not take them away from him when he fell. We may wonder why God didn’ t take away those powers from the Devil. The reason is that God doesn’ t usually take back the gifts He gives. Even we human beings would not normally take back a gift that we have given to another - even if that other person turns against us one day! And so Satan uses his power to harm people. And that is why people who get in touch with him can do supernatural things through witchcraft.
It is written concerning Satan, "How you have fallen from heaven, O star of the morning (that was his name - the shining one), O son of the dawn" (Isa.14:12)

As the head of the angels, Lucifer was in God’ s presence constantly. Why did he fall away? The reason is given in the next two verses (Isa.14:13,14) "Because you said in
your heart `I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God....I will be like the Most High’ .... Nevertheless you will be cast down into hell."
Lucifer was more gifted, more beautiful and had more supernatural abilities than all the other angels. He led the angels in the worship of God - until pride entered his heart.

He then began to think, "Only One Person is above me, and that is God Himself. I will rule over Him as well."
That was really a stupid thought that came into his heart. How could he ever ascend above his Creator? But that is how Satan is - quite foolish in many of the things he does and thinks, even though he is so clever!! Many clever people in the world too do a lot of utterly foolish things, spiritually speaking. The more we study about Satan, the more we will see how stupid he is in many of the things he does. Satan was not happy to be where God had placed him. He wanted to ascend to the place where everyone would worship him! He did not say so. He just began to have such
thoughts in his heart. We read that in verse 13. But God looks at our hearts, and he looked at Lucifer’ s heart, and saw what he was aiming at. There is a difference between temptation and sin. Temptation comes initially as a thought
in the mind. It is only when we agree with that thought however that we sin. If, on the other hand, we reject the thought immediately, we do not sin.

For example, have you ever had an evil thought of doing something to pull another person down in the eyes of others, so that you can appear as a better person?
Do you know who was the first person to have such a thought? It was Lucifer. Whom did he want to pull down? Not the angels, because they were already below him. He wanted
to pull God down. To pull people down in order to get on top yourself is the very spirit of Satan. Why do I say that you must know your enemy? Because when such a thought enters your mind, you should recognize that your enemy is trying to get in. The roaring lion is waiting to devour you.
It did not take many years for the highest archangel to become the devil. No. Only a moment. He did not fall gradually, step-by-step. No. He came down like lightning, as
Jesus said - in a moment (Lk.10:18). One moment, he was the shining one. As soon as he began nourishing the thought of becoming like God, immediately he became the devil.

How long does it take for an angel to become a devil?. Not even one second. Just a moment. How long does it take for a really good person to become like the devil? Just a
moment. That’ s all. Remember that. Another passage that tells us about the origin of Satan is Ezekiel 28. There we see Satan called "the king of Tyre" (Ezek.28:12). There are demon powers behind the rulers of this world and at that time Satan himself was behind the ruler of Tyre. And the Lord spoke to Satan who indwelt that human ruler.
The Lord reminded Satan of the time when he was in the garden of Eden (Ezek.28:13) This tells us that Lucifer was in Eden before Adam and Eve were there. And the Lord
reminded Satan of how he had been "perfect in his ways from the day he was created until sin was found in him" (v.16,17). Lucifer’ s heart was lifted up primarily because of his beauty. Is your heart ever lifted up when you look into the mirror and see how good looking you are compared to others?

Beware of that. Thank God for the good gifts he has given you. There’ s nothing wrong in having a good-looking face. But there is everything wrong in being proud of it. For then
you open the door to Satan. Another reason for Lucifer’ s pride was his cleverness. Do you know that the most intelligent among all created being is Satan? There is nothing wrong with being intelligent. We can use our intelligence for the glory of God. But we have no right to be proud of it. We don’ t have to be stupid to serve the Lord. No. Thank God for your intelligence, and thank God for your beauty, but never be proud of either. The third reason for Lucifer’ s conceit was that he had the highest position among all created beings. He failed to recognise that all these three things that he was proud of - his
beauty, his cleverness and his position - were all gifts of God. And that is what many human beings - and many Christians too - fail to recognise. And that’ s how Satan gets a foothold in their lives, and finally destroys them.
So we see that all the sin in the world originated with pride. Not with murder or adultery but with pride. And that’ s why salvation came through Jesus humbling himself.

The way of humility is the way of deliverance from all of Satan’ s schemes and wiles. In Lucifer, we also see the origin of the spirit of discontentment with one’ s appointed lot in life. If we could look at this world from God’ s point of view, we would see the world full of grumbling, complaining, murmuring people everywhere - a spirit that they have all imbibed from Satan. The spirit of rebellion against authority is yet another thing that originated with Lucifer. There was only one authority that Lucifer had above him - and that was God. And he rebelled against that authority. He wanted to be above that authority and to push God down. Do we find that spirit in the human race? The spirit of rebellion against authority is
what has led to numerous revolutions in countries and what has caused strikes in factories. And in these days, we find that rebellious spirit even among students - not only
among college students, but among school students as well, and even among small children in a home. All this is a sure sign that the world is deteriorating. Disrespect for teachers, and for parents and even for elder brothers in the church is rife everywhere. Never forget that it
was this spirit that changed the best of the angels into a devil.

And this spirit can change a good boy or girl into a devil even today. God never makes anyone evil. It is when we open ourselves to the spirit of Satan that we make ourselves evil. And now notice one final characteristic about Lucifer. When he fell, he didn’ t fall alone.

He had company. We read in Revelation 12:4 that he dragged down one-third of the other angels along with him. They too foolishly joined him in his spirit of pride,
discontentment and rebellion. It is the same today. Where one person is evil, he is not content to remain evil by himself alone. He wants to drag others down with him into his misery and evil, as well. A root of bitterness in one person can infect many others, if those others are not watchful (See Heb.12:15).

Namaste
Satan originates with Saturn worship.Forget all the Judeo Christian shite.Saturn worship is far older than Judeo Christianity nonesense.

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On Lucifer, Crowley, Necromancy and the ‘Holy Guardian Angel’ Invocation

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Lucifer
Guardian Angel.
The 1000 Year Revolution of Lucifer
For Apocalyptic War against Christendom
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No mercy on they who deserve none.
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As an introduction to this subject see:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wQ3yj7iXTg
Aleister Crowley Boleskine House: 28 Minute video.


Aleister Crowley - Masters of Darkness pt 1 (19mins)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E93_N1dXYCg&mode=related&search=

Aleister Crowley - Masters of Darkness pt 2 (18mins)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVArfGy9rZc&mode=related&search=

Aleister Crowley - Masters of Darkness pt 3 (11mins)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVasoNn-jdQ&mode=related&search=


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Mentor (from mentis: the mind; an influencer of the mind / soul).

Whether one loves or hates Crowley, there is no getting away from his influence over the world; he was certainly a great genius in the intellectual sense and a very powerful Magus (spiritualist / magician) whose writings reveal much about the methods of necromancy / spiritual invocation / invocation.

Kabbalah (received teaching).

Crowley's studies and insights into the Kabbalah which resulted in his Book of Thoth are I believe essential reading for anyone using the Tarot for spiritual guidance. As it was with Crowley it is the readings which we do for ourselves, not for others, which have the most power; it is I believe a way for the ancestral spirits of Heaven and Hell to communicate with us beyond words. Those who only do readings for others and not for themselves (a common superstition), do so out of fear. Crowley ‘s understanding of the Tarot came by doing his own readings daily in conjunction with the use of psychoactives and an academic / historical study of their origins and meanings, and this is certainly an empowering and spiritualising process.

Triumph of the Will. Methods.

I tend not to address the ancestral world with ritualistic or ancient language and I do not use the old rituals, but certainly Crowley’s 'madness' and methods have influenced my own practice of necromancy, particularly with regards to the use of psychoactives and the Tarot in conjunction with evoking the dead / the Guardian Angel.

I do believe as all Thelemites do, that "magick” is certainly the 'art and science of causing Change to occur in conformity with Will;' and my will is to influence the present and future world towards the revolution of Light. As outlined in the videos above, I certainly have found it to be the case that when one seeks to evoke Heaven (the angelic) or Hell (the demonic) that one attracts the attention of both, and that one is always walking on a razor blade between sanity and insanity. Necromantic magick in conjunction with sex magick and psychoactive use, is in many ways a form of self imposed schizophrenia (a shattered mind) and one can barely expect the Magus to relate to ‘normal’ people or to have the same subjective experience of life.

Magick and Necromancy

Personally I have always felt the presence of the spiritual world (ancestral world) since a small child. My mother was a spiritualist and I grew up in a home where she would conduct séances. One of the 'secrets' of Scientology which you have to pay a great deal of money for is the simple belief that we live in an inhabited universe where there are other solar systems with intelligent life. The universe contains trillions of people who at the point of death, pass over into the spiritual world.

This process has been going on for millions of years. The population of the spirit world vastly outnumber us; we are the few, they are the myriads. They return to us to guide us and influence us. They can watch us like we watch a reality show on TV. There are many things we can do to attract the attention of the most advanced among them and to seek out their guidance.

Let us say that you wish to 'evoke' Lucifer for example. 'Angels' are simply highly advanced ancestral spirits. Lucifer, for example is an archetypal Promethean character associated with both the Sun and Venus (in Roman mythology he was Venus' lover), much like the many archetypes in the Tarot. There is not only one ancestral spirit who is a Lucifer archetype; on the contrary there are myriads, including many ancestors who were martyrs who resisted the Archons and priests of their age and who personified Prometheus’ cry of ‘I will not worship an unjust god.’ Lucifer and Venus also represented love, feminism and liberation in an age where many women were consigned to loveless arraigned marriages; they were a Romeo and Juliet of the ancient world.

<I>The method is in entire accordance with this. There are, it is true, certain prescriptions to be observed, but these really amount to little more than injunctions to observe decency in the performance of so august an operation. One must have a house where proper precautions against disturbance can be taken; this being arranged, there is really nothing to do but to aspire with increasing fervour and concentration, for six months, towards the obtaining of the Knowledge and Conversation of the Holy Guardian Angel. Once He has appeared, it is then necessary, first, to call forth the Four Great Princes of the Evil of the World; next, their eight sub-princes; and, lastly, the three hundred and sixteen servitors of these. </I>

Once evoked (called upon) / summoned, they must be commanded (given orders) in accordance with the will of the magickian; those who worship the gods become slaves to do their bidding; the great Magi do not worship the gods; they are simply instruments of his (or her) will. We might refer to them as deities or gods, and they might as well be since many would have entered the ancestral realm millions of years ago; over ages of time, their intelligence, knowledge, wisdom etc., has developed to the point where they are light years ahead of us spiritually; nothing is hidden to them; nothing is secret; to they who observe and influence us, they are like teachers and we are like little children; innocents stumbling in the dark in a world of chaos where there are so many, many secrets hidden from view.

Some call upon them for the advancement of wealth or power over others; but this attracts a different type of ancestral spirit and there is always a price to pay for that kind of magick. The Promethean archetype takes upon the path of martyrdom, sacrificing himself or herself as a bright light to humanity, revealing the secrets of heaven and earth; another seeks to hypnotise, blind and enslave and guard their knowledge.

Communists and most atheists / agnostics often see the problems of this world of suffering as purely 'economic,' and certainly many of the most powerful magi in the world have a wealth of nations and are the masters to whom the nations and peoples are enslaved in debt; the existence of the dictatorship of Capital certainly 'is' an economic problem, but it is not 'merely' an economic issue; the world is ruled by a Craft of spiritualists.

After one relentlessly purses the Guardian Angel invocation, it seems to be also to be a narrow one way path that once one takes, there is no going back, except to the insanity of conventionality and conformity.

Dominion.

As with Crowley although I address / attract both the angelic and demonic souls, I seek 'dominion' over the ancestral souls of Heaven and Hell in order to impose my political and spiritual 'will' for what I consider selfless and humanitarian purposes; i.e., the total future eradication of all forms of Legalism, Religion, Government and Monetarism, however the triumph of my will / influence of my will in the future world would bring about a slightly future to that which Crowley foresaw; by 'my will' although I speak as an individual, I also represent the collective will of all Anarchists, since with regards to political philosophy I have nothing to add to or subtract from traditional Anarcho-Communism.

Where I part company with Crowley is, among other aspects, with his future vision of a world where a group of 'Masters' and indeed a 'master race' would rule over humanity, since that describes the present world.

I am not for the Masters who shall be vanquished in the end, but for the enslaved who shall inherit the earth.

On the Guardian Angel Lucifer: myth and invoked reality.


I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. (Isaiah 14:13-14)

This is a Christian mistranslation of a passage which refers to a Babylonian king. The term ‘Lucifer’ is Latin and does not appear in the original Bible texts written in Hebrew and Greek. Lucifer has nothing to do with Christianity or the Bible.

Lucifer is the embodiment of reason, of intelligence, of critical thought. He stands against the dogma of God and all other dogmas. He stands for the exploration of new ideas and new perspectives in the pursuit of truth… Masonic cultist, Albert Pike.

On http://www.unrv.com/culture/minor-roman-god-list.php for example, you will find that Lucifer is listed as only one of scores of Roman gods (archetypes) and that he was not a demon, but the male deity of the planet of Love (Venus). Lucifer and Venus were ‘lovers’ and they represented an archetype of liberated love; today the symbol of Venus is rightfully used by many feminists and lesbians; Venus is not in this age a symbol of a woman who is a domestic slave, but rather a strong independent, free thinking, liberated woman.


In Jerome's Vulgate translation of Isaiah 14:12 (How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning), although this refers to a fallen Babylonian tyrant, the Latin Christians misinterpreted this as a fallen angel who became 'Satan.' This is clearly a 'misinterpretation' of the text, however it became central to Christian belief. Probably Jerome simply wanted to use the name of a Roman Pagan god in a derogatory sense, since certainly 'Lucifer' represented the anti-thesis of the Christian 'sin of restriction,' and the Christian contempt for sexual love.

Since 'Lucifer,' a relatively minor Roman deity was then equated with the enemy of Christianity, those such as Albert Pike and other anti-Christians automatically equated themselves with the mythical enemy of the Christians, however this has no basis in the Biblical texts, though the ancient mystery cultists often named their deities after ‘Light’ or the ‘Sun,’ such as Baal, Ra and so forth.

Luciferian religion.

Frankly if one considers Lucifer as an enlightened rebellious Promethean archetype of revolution 'against' religion, then the term 'Luciferian Religion' is as much an oxymoron (self contradictory) as the term Capitalist Christianity.

'I would rather remain chained to this rock and have eagles devour my liver than to serve an unjust god

Lucifer epitomises rebellion against an unjust god, and there are few gods who are more unjust than the gods of the Christians and the Freemasons, whose gods are overtly Capitalist and Religionist and among their cultists many are the legalists (Lawyers), police, military, statists and Usuryists. Hardly enlightened and hardly in rebellion against authority and the evil of god.

Final War.

Do what thou will shall be the whole of the Law and 'Love is the Law, love under will,' is pretty much the mantra of the political and spiritual Anarchists, and an Anarchist individualist alternative to the millions of laws of the nations and religions, howeve, although 'Do what thou will, but harm none,' though not attributed to Crowley, would be a necessary mantra for social relationships in a future age, it is not one chosen by either Crowley or myself; the Aeon to come will by necessity not be one of pacifism; what comes after us by necessity will be, as Crowley foresaw and as I foresee, a time of apocalyptic war, revolutions, the destruction of the environment and unfortunately the shedding of blood the like of which has never been seen in human history.

Unfortunately my own 'Guardian Angel Lucifer' evocation / invocation is not 'entertaining,' and although he is a protector of the oppressed, the enslaved, towards the slave masters of this world and their civilization, terrible, dreadful and unforgiving shall be his wrath on the future world.

Crowley's ‘Aiwass (High priest of Horus)’ invocation on the other hand, I find to be too anti-Anarchist; as much as I admit that Crowley was a great mentor / teacher / spiritual guide to me, in the end, we leave our teachers behind, we discard their foolishness, we take upon their wisdom and we follow our own path in the attempt to manifest Heaven on earth.

As above, so 'not' below.

My father, whom I refer to affectionately as the ‘Devil’ and his cultists are also Kabbalists. However these are a different type of magi; they blend in; they seek total anonymity; they must hide themselves in respectability and wealth; by day they are the lawyers, accountants, corporationists and administrators of Capitalism. They must do everything they can to hide their true nature.

The Game. The parable of Hiram Abiff (Hiram: king; Abiff: secret, lost, hidden).

'For every slave a master and for every master a slave.'

Once upon a time there was a Scottish king. The English did not like him, so they waged war against him. Every day the king would summon his cook. He was very cruel to the cook and often berated him and humiliated him in public. When darkness fell on his castle, a different game was played; the cook adorned the garment of the Grand Master.

The king's mistresses and servants were really the Grand Master's lovers; priests and priestesses of his Craft. When the Grand Master gathered his council around him to discuss matters of state, he might dismiss the king and gather around him the king's shoemaker, his jester, his page, his bishop, his scribe and others who were privy to his secret Craft, some of whom in the daytime the king would scold and humiliate in public as part of their 'Game.'

When their council had ended the king was summoned and given orders which would have to be obeyed, for he was just the master's servant indebted to the Grand Master for life, his title and well being; the king was dispensable and could be replaced; he was an employee, pledged to secrecy.

The Grand Master’s cult was widespread throughout the land; each region had a master who in turn had another master who might be the king's shoemaker or jester, and the true identity of the Grand Master would be known only to a select few.

And so it was that as darkness fell, the kings of Scotland bowed to shoemakers, jesters, chefs and servants. One day the English stormed the Castle and killed the king. After they had killed the king, the English general took over his castle and summoned the king's chef to make a fine banquet for him. This is how the Phoenix always rises from the ashes of war. All that we see with our physical eyes is a ‘Game’ to protect the real king of kings. Hiram Abiff is not a name, it is a title.

Crowley stated that he would wipe his ass with the Masonic rituals and that he would be remembered long after they had been forgotten and swept away by his future followers. I also seek a new heaven and earth, far beyond that of the Masters of Masonic cultism and Crowley’s elitist politics; and that is the Aeon of Anarchism and Communism and the total and brutal eradication of all forms of government and religion through apocalyptic guerrilla war and the mass executions of all who resist; that shall be the 1000 Year Aeon of Lucifer.


One cult, many names.

This ancient Craft has ruled the world since long before the days of Solomon; some say they were once the Masters of Atlantis who survived the great flood and began their secret Craft again in Egypt.

The world is not ruled by priests, bankers and politicians; they are but the Grand Master's slaves who do his bidding in fear of their lives. It is not a matter of the name of the cult to which they belong; it is much more simple than that. Great evil hides behind great anonymity, secrecy and respectability.

Often those who appear to have no power on earth in the light of day, have the most power under the earth as darkness falls.

So too it is with those magi who resist the masters of this world and who seek to expose them and to create the conditions for their total eradication from the face of the earth and from below the earth; they often appear hidden from view; insignificant to the world, but beloved and respected by the gods.

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It is not necessary to merely await the conditions for world revolution, one must create them.
Apocalyptic Propaganda is the first stage of Apocalyptic War.

Physics is war.

Woe to those who are inflicted by the wrath of the 7 angels of apocalyptic guerrilla war.

The smallest army in all of human history shall defeat the world’s greatest armies.

One shall fight a 1000 and 10,000 and the millions.

After me the deluge of war and genocide

The point of prophecy is not to predict the future but to change the future

The Masters of Eden shall not be vanquished by the prayers of the Christians to their non-existent god or the cries of pacifists for peace, many of whom are just innocents unaware of the Game in play; it will require acts of militant, apocalyptic genocidal will.

Terrible things I foresee in the future world. War, holocaust, apocalyptic terror.

In time, the ‘Game’s’ end will come; but first war the like of which Eden’s history does not recall.

Resist. Rebel. Cry out to all peoples and nations from the sky as the lightening flashes from the east to the west and judge the living and the dead.

Or choose submission and slavery.

The Triumph of the Will.

It is insufficient to await the conditions for revolution to appear; they must be created by acts of magick, will and by rivers of blood.


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The seven angels of apocalyptic war and the righteous of Israel (the revolutionary vanguard; the 144,000) have nothing to do Christianity or the terrorist state of Israel.

In this age it is apocalyptic militant Communism which represents slave revolution.

The alchemical quest was never about converting lead to gold but the conversion of Mass to Light and Energy (i.e., nuclear detonation). These secrets are secrets no more.

They who represent the ‘invocation (personification)’ of the apocalyptic prophecies are they to whom the prophecies speak.
Their evocation and invocation is my quest.

Those are my demands of the living and the dead.

No miracles are awaited; physics is war

Lucifer

Guardian Angel.
The 1000 Year Revolution of Lucifer. The Final Holocaust.
For Anarchist Communism.
For Apocalyptic War against Christendom



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Above: 'Lucifer:' an American Anarchist newspaper.


To be GOVERNED is to be watched, inspected, spied upon, directed, law-driven, numbered, regulated, enrolled, indoctrinated, preached at, controlled, checked, estimated, valued, censured, commanded, by creatures who have neither the right nor the wisdom nor the virtue to do so. To be GOVERNED is to be at every operation, at every transaction noted, registered, counted, taxed, stamped, measured, numbered, assessed, licensed, authorized, admonished, prevented, forbidden, reformed, corrected, punished. It is, under pretext of public utility, and in the name of the general interest, to be place[d] under contribution, drilled, fleeced, exploited, monopolized, extorted from, squeezed, hoaxed, robbed; then, at the slightest resistance, the first word of complaint, to be repressed, fined, vilified, harassed, hunted down, abused, clubbed, disarmed, bound, choked, imprisoned, judged, condemned, shot, deported, sacrificed, sold, betrayed; and to crown all, mocked, ridiculed, derided, outraged, dishonoured. That is government; that is its justice; that is its morality. (P.-J. Proudhon, General Idea of the Revolution in the Nineteenth Century

"Laws: We know what they are, and what they are worth! They are spider webs for the rich and mighty, steel chains for the poor and weak, fishing nets in the hands of government. ...."



Proudhon on 'God'
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Freemasonry (Luciferian religion) hardly represents freedom and rebellion but rather military / police statism and legalism; if any group represents true Luciferianism it is the Anarchists of today who represent the Luciferian spirit of rebellion against an unjust god .
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On Polyamory (Sexual Communism). On Lucifer, Satan, the Serpent, the Fruit, Legends of the Fall and the Original State in Eden.

Lucifer

A belief is not a fact; a popular misconception is not a fact. For example that the Mother of God (Jesus' mother who apparently thought that her son was 'beside himself (i.e., insane) was sexually a virgin (despite her having other children) and wanted to be turned into an idol and an independent divinity is not a fact but an invented belief; and no matter how many victims are hypnotised into believing such nonsense, it does not make it true. Similarly if many people believe that there is a planet made of blue cheese somewhere in the universe, it will never make it a fact.

The Fall, Genesis and linguistic misunderstandings.

There are a number of popular misconceptions of the 'fall' due to misinterpretations of the Hebrew language; such misinterpretations later became 'belief,' and if the basis for such beliefs are indisputably 'challenged,' the indication that a religionist has become hypnotised is that they continue to believe the mistranslations, particularly if that is what their hypnotist (i.e., a priest, a master, a 'father') demands.

The Fruit (the temptation) and the original state (polyamory).

All Hebrew scholars agree that 'eating a forbidden fruit' is a Hebrew sexual metaphor. Absolutely nothing to do with eating an apple etc. If we re-read the story of the fall in this context, we find that it was not merely that Adam and Eve could ‘eat of any fruit tree’ but that they were polyamorous, naked and unashamed about their sexuality; this is as it would be if we placed 100 teenagers, unhypnotised by religion (of the serpents / priests) on a hypothetical island. Since the children of Adam and Eve coupled up with other children, it is clear that Eden was populated by many other people, not just Adam and Eve. The one thing that was forbidden was having anything to do with the temptation of the ‘Serpent.’ This serpent was not a reptile nor an angelic / spiritual being, but another person; a very specific type of person.

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The Serpent (The Egyptian mystery cult priest).

Language taken literally is often a mistranslation. For example if we literally translate the phrase 'US Republicans kicked out of congress,' into the Japanese, this may give the impression that they were subjected to violent attacks and actually 'kicked (i.e., physically beaten).'

The Torah is written against the background of the Egyptian slave revolution. Moses had a total animosity towards the Egyptian priesthood and aristocracy, to the point where he executed those among the slaves who still practiced the Egyptian rituals. There are numerous depictions in Egyptian art of talking 'serpents (i.e., the priesthood / aristocracy who wore serpent headdresses) and these talking serpents clearly operated a mystery cult where those who entered it became wise and had their eyes opened to good and evil, and to the mysteries of the religion of the Egyptians.

To clarify.

1: 'Satan (Egyptian: 'Set'): Adversary of Horus; god of the night, darkness, death, restriction. i.e., Saturn.

Horus: the Sun God; god of light, of day, life, regeneration, fertility.

2: ‘Lucifer / Horus’ is the male deity (ancestral spirit) associated with bot he the Sun and with the planet of love (Venus), whose counterpart is the goddess of Love (Venus) and in Jerome’s Latin New Testament refers to the Messiah (Meshiah: Egyptian king, but in the context of the Egyptian/African slave revolution: Saviour king of the Israelites / the enslaved / the revolutionaries) and in the Latin Old Testament to a Babylonian king.’ Lucifer thus is ‘not’ Satan (Saturn / Set) but his anti-thesis.

3: The Fall: The authors of the Torah blamed this event on the Egyptian / Gentile priesthood whose initiation rituals often involved sexual initiation (i.e. eating a forbidden fruit).

4: Fallen angels: these are ancestral spirits who have lived demonic lives on earth, passed on into the spiritual world and continue to influence us in this world.

5: Serpents. This is a reference to the idolatrous priesthood of the Egyptian cult religion, also used by Jesus to refer to the priests of his age (you serpents, you brood of vipers, you hypocrites, etc).

The original sin was ‘religion;’ i.e., sexual initiation into an Egyptian style cult with a master; this is the path from the Tree of Life (a Kabbalistic map or 'guide book' to life's experiences) to the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil (the misuse of the Kabbalah).

6: Polyamory, bisexuality and naturism and the Tree of Life.

In Eden we were allegedly naked, unashamed and would ‘eat from any tree’ (a Hebrew sexual metaphor; i.e., were were polyamorous). The spiritualism of our ancestors is best understood through a study of the Hebrew alphabet and the Tarot, which represents the archetypal journey of the ‘Tree of Life,’ and the archetypal experiences and persons we will meet or personify on the path of life.


Comandante Lucifer
Aeon of Lucifer 2009.
The Revolution of the many points of Light.


For Anarchist Communism
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[rwederfoort]

THE METHODS OF SATAN

If you as a young person do not know how to resist Satan in your life, it can not only ruin your life on earth, it can also affect your eternal destiny. Satan won’ t wait until you have grown up, before he begins his attacks on you. He will start on you right now. So you must know something about his methods.

Unfortunately, most peoples’ idea of the devil comes more from the advertisements of Onida Television than from the teaching of God’ s Word. And so they think of Satan as a
harmless prankster with horns and claws and a forked, green tail. But we read in the Bible that Satan does not have such a hideous form at all. Satan is a spirit and he is not a fool to come in such a way as to make people run away from him. How would be able to lead them astray then?
Satan is more like a confidence trickster who first wins your confidence and then cheats you. The Bible says Satan comes as an angel of light - as one who is attractive. And it is because he comes as an "angel of light", that he is called "the Deceiver of the whole world" (Rev.12:9).

Let me give you one example - karate. Most people think of that as just a martial artform, a method of self defense. But that is only part of the truth. Just like yoga which
appears to be only physical exercise, but yet teaches people to worship of the sun, in the same way, karate too has demonic forces behind it. There are demons of karate, and I have encountered them in demon-possessed people, but they will present themselves as harmless messengers of good things like self-defense. Satan came in a very charming and attractive way to Eve in the garden of Eden. If he had
been repulsive, Eve would have run away from him. Notice this fact that both the Old and the New Testaments begin with description of Satan tempting people - the Old Testament with the temptation of Adam and Eve (Gen.3), and
the New Testament with the temptation of Jesus (Matt.4). That shows the importance that the Bible gives to the matter of our knowing the methods of our enemy.

If we follow the example of Adam and Eve in the way they confronted Satan we will certainly fall. But if we follow Jesus’ example in the way He confronted Satan, we will
overcome. Immediately after Jesus was baptised in water and anointed by the Holy Spirit, even before he began his public ministry, the very first thing we read is that He was led by the Holy Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil (Lk.4:1). It is indeed amazing that the Holy Spirit would lead Jesus to met the devil. One would
think that the Holy Spirit leads people only to mountain tops to get visions and revelations of God and heaven!!! Yes, He does lead us to such places. But He also leads
us into places where we can be tempted by Satan. I hope you realise that the Holy Spirit will never lead us to places that are harmful for us. So we can understand from that one verse of Scripture that temptations must be useful for
us. Otherwise the Holy Spirit would not have led Jesus to be tempted by Satan. And He won’ t lead us to be tempted by Satan either. God does not tempt anyone. But He does
allow us to be tempted by Satan. Notice the timing of Satan’ s temptations:

He came to Jesus, just after Jesus had fasted for forty days and nights, when he was hungry. It is when we are physically weak or when we are facing some mental or
emotional pressure in our lives, that Satan tries to attack us. Secondly, we notice that Satan came to Jesus after He had been anointed with the Holy Spirit and had heard the voice of approval from Heaven. Satan comes to us soon after we have had a time of tremendous blessing from God.
So let us be alert to Satan’ s tactics. After God has tremendously blessed us, Satan will come along to try and puff us up. Or when we have failed in an examination, or are sick or physically drained out, he will come along to try and get us discouraged so that he can lead us into sin.
God’ s Word has been given to us in advance so that we can know "the wiles and schemes of Satan". God’ s Word shows us how Satan approaches, at what times he usually comes,
what enticements he offers, how others were deceived by him, and how Jesus overcame.

What are Satan’ s lines of approach? First of all, we see that he tempted Jesus through His bodily desires. Satan suggested to Jesus, "If you are the Son of God, command these stones to become bread". That is how Satan comes to us too. He tempts us to satisfy our LEGITIMATE bodily
desires in ILLEGITIMATE ways. But Jesus was alert, and replied "It is written......". When Satan had come to Eve thousands of years earlier, he had questioned God’ s Word
saying, "Has God said..?" Do you know that there is only one book in the world that Satan hates with all his heart?
That is God’ s Word, the Bible. And why does he hate it? Because it reveals how he became Satan, it exposes all his schemes, and most important of all, it tells us all about
his defeat on Calvary’ s cross, and his final judgment when Christ comes back to earth.

That is why Satan hates the Bible and always tries his best to prevent people from reading it. He would rather allow you to read a novel or a comic than the Bible. Because Satan
knows that those novels and comics will not help you to overcome him, but the Bible will. When Jesus came to earth, he came as a man just like us, and was tempted in all points
exactly as we are (Heb.2:17; 4:15). Why? So that he could be an example for us. So that he could say to us "Follow Me. Follow My example." And what is the example that we can follow here? It is to quote God’ s Word alone to Satan when we are tempted. Jesus did not discuss matters with Satan as Eve did. He did not reason as to whether He needed food for His body, or whether food was good, or necessary etc., He was only concerned with what God had said in His Word. And my dear friends, I want to tell you that if you live your life by just this one principle: "What has God said in his Word,? That alone is my final authority", then you will always overcome Satan, like Jesus did. In fact Jesus replied quoting God’ s Word in answer to all the three temptations that Satan came with. And there we see the contrast between Eve and Jesus. Jesus’ attitude was "God’ s Word for my soul is far more important than any food for my body." Or in other words, "The need for food is not as important as the need to read, understand and obey the Word ofGod". That is the meaning of Jesus quoting that verse from the Old Testament to Satan, "Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God." Did you understand that, my young friends? The first principle by which we can overcome Satan is by recognising that God’ s Word is more important for us than the satisfying of ALL our bodily needs - whether it be a hunger for food or sex or whatever. If you don’ t take that position right at the outset, you will certainly be deceived
thereafter. You can be sure that the devil will tell you that it is more important to eat your food than to read God’ s Word each day. And there are many believers who believe the devil. The proof that they believe what Satan says is seen in the fact that they never forget or lack
the time to eat food (even three or more times a day), but often forget or are too busy to meditate on God’ s Word.

Who has done this work of deceiving believers and thus making them weak? Undoubtedly, Satan himself. What an example we have in Jesus Who, even after fasting for forty days, still felt it was more important for Him to listen to a word from God than to satisfy His bodily needs. It is those who give the pre-eminent place to God’ s Word in their lives who will live a consistently, victorious life. The apostle John told young people (in 1 John 2:14),
"Because God’ s Word is dwelling in you, you are strong and have overcome the evil one." It is impossible to overcome Satan in any other way. I want to encourage all of you
to read and meditate on the Scriptures every day of your lives. Let us now look at the second temptation.
Here Satan tempted Jesus to jump down from the top of the temple, and to claim God’ s promise of protection. It was a temptation to do something spectacular and thus earn the
admiration of the crowds below in the courtyard, who would see Him descending unhurt, into their midst. What Satan suggested to Jesus was really a ploy to make Him commit
suicide.

Satan will often tempt you to do something spectacular in order to get the acclaim of others, or perhaps to show-off that you are someone great etc., Notice that Satan even
quoted Scripture to Jesus, saying, "The angels will take care of you." Remember that Satan can even misquote Scripture if he can lead you astray thereby. And if you are ignorant of what the Scriptures really teach, he will deceive you. "Do something spectacular in the Name of Christ", Satan suggests. Christianity has often got a bad name because of the stupid things that many believers have done, quoting Scripture and tempting God. For example, there are believers who do not take any medicine when they are sick. They do not have any Scripture to base their so-called "faith" on. But they imagine that they are "trusting" God. That is exactly like jumping down from the temple, expecting the angels to provide supernatural protection! They finally die of their sickness - and the Name of Jesus Christ is dishonoured among the heathen, who get the idea that Christianity is a religion of stupid, fanaticism. And Satan sits back and laughs, for he has succeeded in luring one more believer to commit suicide, not by taking poison, but by refusing to combat the poisons in his body through medicines that God created for use.

Many a child of God who could have been useful to God for the work of His kingdom on earth has been lured to their death by Satan in this way. The devil is always tempting people to do something foolish, something that is contrary to the spirit and teaching of God’ s Word, and something spectacular. It is by humility - by humbly submitting to God, and by not seeking any glory for ourselves in any way, that we overcome Satan. When Satan quoted a Scripture to Jesus, Jesus quoted another Scripture to Satan in reply He said, "It is also written, `You shall not tempt the Lord your God’ ". We are not to tempt God by doing foolish, stupid and unnecessary things and then expecting God to protect us from the results of such folly! And now, finally, the third temptation.

Here at last, Satan came to what he has always desired - worship. He told Jesus, "If you bow down and worship me, I will give you all the glory of this world." The glory of this world is a tremendous temptation to all of us - money, popularity, honour, position, power etc., And the devil says, "Which of these would you like to have? Tell me, and I will give it to you. Just bow down to me a little bit, and I will give it all to you". He will say, "Do you want to pass in your examination? Do you want to come first in
your class? I will give it to you. Just bow down to me - give a bribe and get that question paper in advance; give a bribe to the examiner and get some more marks; cheat in the
examination.... etc.," These are the ways in which many are bowing down to Satan today. Is it important for you young people to know about the devil’ s schemes? Certainly. You
must know that when you cheat in an examination, you are bowing down to Satan in your mind and saying "I will obey your orders, Satan. I will take a little piece of paper with
notes in my pocket, into the examination-hall". There are many more ingenious ways of cheating that young people have discovered in these days - for Satan is very clever, and offers all his wiles to help those who want to cheat.
If Satan offered the glory of this world to Jesus, don’ t you think he will offer it to you as well? And as you grow older, you will find that Satan will tell you of so many other wonderful things that he can offer you. There are people who sign false statements, practise unrighteousness in financial matters, and engage in crooked activities - all in order to get a little more money, a little more popularity, or a higher position in this world.

The devil is constantly telling people, "Tell me what you want? I will give it to you." Jesus had only one reply to such a temptation. He said, "Be gone Satan. It is written, `You shall worship the Lord your God and Him only you shall serve’ ". What a wonderful thing it is that we have God’ s Word to warn us of all these schemes of Satan. How blessed you young people are that you can learn all this at this young age! When you are tempted to get something of this world and you realise that you have to sacrifice your character in order to get it, what are you going to do? Remember what Jesus said to Satan, and you follow Jesus’ example and tell Satan the same thing yourself. When Satan tempts you saying, "You don’ t have to be righteous, you don’ t have to speak the truth there. Tell a little lie, and you can gain something of this world" , be bold to reply to him saying, "Begone Satan, I will not listen to you. It is written that I should bow down and worship God alone. I am going to follow Jesus."

From the time he was created, Satan has always wanted others to worship him. That is why he wanted to be like God - because he knew that God alone can be worshipped. He
wanted the other angels to worship him. He wanted Adam’ s race to worship him. And, amazingly, he wanted even Jesus to worship him!!!. He could not succeed with Jesus. But he does succeed with many people - in fact with most people - in the world today, and even with many, many believers, who compromise their convictions in order to make some earthly profit for themselves. There are millions who are bowing down to Satan today. They do not realize that when they yield to sin, or go against their conscience, they are actually bowing down to Satan. And why do they do it? In order to gain something of the glory of this world. When you want success, popularity or power - maybe success in an examination, or popularity in school, or a position in the world - Satan will come to you and say, "I will give it to you. Do this. Do that. Go and say this. Go and do that...." And you know very well that everything he is suggesting is wrong. But you still go ahead and do it, and thus bow the knee to Satan. Do you think you can still call yourself a Christian when you do things like that? Certainly not. No one is a Christian who bows the knee to Satan. What shall we do then, if we have bowed the knee like that to Satan in past years? We must repent of all those occasions when we did it, give back what we have cheated or acquired wrongly, and ask Jesus to forgive us and cleanse us. Let us do that without delay, lest Satan continue to have power over our lives.

Namaste

[size_of_light]

Satan must have stopped me from reading this.

A paragraph would have sufficed.

[sorath]

Ahhh a god botherer.

Take your bible, with its fables and try indoctrinating people to your warped beliefs elsewhere.

[rwederfoort]

The Bible makes it clear that civilizations and societies are influenced by Satan. John writes that “the whole world lies under the sway of the wicked one” (1 John 5:19).

The entirety of civilization has been seduced by this cunning being through his persuasive deception and insidious lies. The result has been thousands of years of human anguish, misery and suffering. Deceived by his lies, humans have willingly adopted Satan ’s way of life rather than G o d ’s way. The result of following Satan’s way, which through his deception appears appealing and natural to most people, is predictable: “There is a way that seems right to a man, but in the end it leads to death” (Proverbs 14:12; 16:25, New International Version ).


S a t a n ’s deception is so complete, sopervasive, that the Bible calls him “the g o d of this age” (2 Corinthians 4:4). The apostle Paul, in the original Greek, identifies him as the theos—the god, the one who is worshiped—of this e o n, this age, this period in history. Consider the magnitude of Satan’s influence over humanity—that most of mankind unwittingly worships and follows the devil as its god. That is the incredible truth revealed in your Bible! Understanding that reality explains so many of the troubling paradoxes we see in the world around us. Paul explained that, as a result of S a t a n ’s hold on humanity, most people do not believe the truth of the Bible. They do not understand the gospel— the good news—of God’s plan for mankind. “But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them” (2 Corinthians 4:3-4).


Namaste

[rwederfoort]

Sometimes Angels Masquerade as human Beings.

How would you know who is a Human Being and who is an Angel?
Because the Fallen Angels are descaising as HUMANS.

Satan was able to deceive one-third of these angels into joining him in this battle against GOD. Revelation 12: 4 tell us that One-third of the angels fell with Satan. And his (The dragon’s, Satan’s) tail drew the third part of the stars (Angels) of heaven, and did cast them to the earth. “Thus Satan has plenty Evil angels, or devils, to help him in his purposes here on earth.

If there are so many evil angels on earth, why is it not possible for us to see them? It has already been shown that sometimes angels masquerade as human Beings, and when they do they are then visible. How ever , angels, who are a Higher order of being than we have the ability to remain invisible. As a Scriptural example of angel’s power to remain invisible.

In some case in which a man was not able to see the angel until the angel wanted to be seen, Satan and the evil angels are all over the earth , but human beings, under most circumstances, cannot see them. They do, however, make themselves visible at various times and under various circumstances. God’s holy angels are also here on the Earth as guardian angels for the True Christians, who serve the Lord as the Scriptures require, and they also
Remain invisible. We are surrounding by a great cloud of witnesses. (Hebrews 12:1)

When you watch Television, you are watching and listening to people who are deceived, and who are passing their deceptions on to you. If you go to school
, you receive instruction from teachers who are deceived. If you go to college, you are taught by professors who are deceived. When you read the newspapers or the news Magazine, you are reading the opinions of authors who are deceived by Satan. The only hope we have of penetrating this wall of lies
and deception that Satan has built around us is the Bible, the standard for the truth in our World. Remember that God cannot Lie (Titus 1:2)

How do you deceive someone> If you always tell a person the truth, will you be able to deceive him? No, you must lie to him in order to deceive him.
Does Satan therefore Lie? In John 8:44, Jesus says, “Ye are of your Father the devil, and the lusts of your father Ye will do. He was a murderer from the
Beginning, and abode not in the Truth, because there is no truth in Him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Namaste

[rwederfoort]

Hey I am telling the Truth taht most of the Goverments, and other Important Agencies, are Fallen Angels,

All of them Fallen Angels thats why they don't care for GOD creation,

Its funny when you see them, even sosme of the Doctors are fallen Angels, Church Ministers, Teachers, I can go on if you like.

Namaste

[rwederfoort]

I always wanted to know why certain people, knew what i was trying to hide in my Mind. Or how they moved arround without their cars.

Yes, Even at my JOB, how they communicate without talking because they have telepathic communication.

I live in the BRONX, they know me as i know them,
One of them told me when you go back to your father in HEAVEN tell him what we did to his EARTH,

I would never forget his words, He was also a falllen angel descise, and working for a BANK,

WOW, increadible to believe.

Namaste

[mikel84]

fallen angels dont exist
i would hurt him for using that tone stupid guy
angels dont exist and neither does satan character from the bible
tell him that then hit him

[mikel84]

WRONG
there are no fallen angels no angel was banished
stop making up bs
there was no rebellion and there was no satan
there is however different races of people and you are just using it to scare people

[joe911]

WRONG
there are no fallen angels no angel was banished
stop making up bs
there was no rebellion and there was no satan

Reminds me of what george carlin said;
There is no god
and there is no humpty dumpty ;)

[mikel84]

Reminds me of what george carlin said;
There is no god
and there is no humpty dumpty ;)

stop talking

[joe911]

stop talking

go eat your orange :D

[mikel84]

go eat your orange :D

what the fk

[decim]

what the fk

Bert Fetlock

[joe911]

what the fk

You told me to stop talking so i replied with an equally nice message :)
I was going to put have a coke but prefer the go eat your orange line.

[mikel84]

Bert Fetlock

shutup

[joe911]

shutup

Play nice.
peace&love my friend :)

[friendsinthesky]

I reckon car salesmen/taxi drivers/tax accountants/fallen angels/bikers/brick layers/they're all fallen angels. :-)

[joe911]

shut the fuck up bitch

This is a open forum we can say what we like.
back to the op: ive noticed youve posted like 5 threads on the same topic maybe you could keep it all in one its easier to discuss it that way.

[decim]

shutup

Filter flap

[rwederfoort]

The question is often asked : Why did not God simply get rid of Satan as soon as he began to cause trouble?

GOD could have used His Power to Eliminate Satan, and he would have ceased to exit. Why did God not do this? God did not immediately get rid of Satan for basically two reasons. First , if HE had, heaven would have ceased to be a place of perfect tranquility and happiness and would instead have been transformed into a Police state.
All the angels would have been afraid of being destroyed themselves. Instead of being happy they would have been fearful of doing something GOD did Not like. God created beings with intelligence and free will because He wanted their companionship .

He wanted them to be free, free to choose the correct
Way. If HE had eliminated Satan, His creatures would have felt that they had to serve and arbitrary God by threat of force instead of from LOVE. No longer would they have been companion to them, Love and companionship simply cannot be forced, Had GOD created a race of automatons programmed to Love and Obey Him, He would not have had companionship.

For Example, could a lonely person find the love and companionship he wants by buying a little windup doll that would repeat over and over again, “I LOVE YOU; I LOVE you; I LOVE you”? OF course not . LOVE, companionship and devotions meaningless if they are forced or if they are the automatic result of pre-programmed instinct. LOVE must be the result of free will. LOVE, companionship, and devotion are meaningful only if the person bestowing the LOVE has a choice not to LOVE. When a father comes home from work in the evening and his small daughter comes running out of the house and Jumps up and puts her arms around his
Neck and says, “OH Daddy. I love you, “Father is pleased and happy about his daughter’s actions because they were spontaneous. She was not forced

To act that way. She expressed her LOVE because she wanted to, because she had missed her father during the day and wanted companionship with him.
God feels the sane way about HIS Creatures. They must have a choice, or their LOVE devotion, and companionship would mean nothing to Him.

The second reason why God could not immediately get rid of SATAN is that if HE had, from then on doubts would have existed in the minds of all God’s intelligent beings, Satan’s accusations had raised the all-important questions: Could it be that God’s law is unjust and unnecessary ? Could it be that holy angels of such high Intelligence do not need the law of GOD? Could it be that it is impossible to obey GOD’s Law? If God had eliminated Satan immediately
He would have appeared to the other angels to be unjust and arbitrary: for they would not have understood the nature of the controversy, and these doubts would never have been dispelled. In order to handle the situation which Satan had caused in heaven, God had to give him an Opportunity to show whether His accusations were valid or not. And so, the earth was created by GOD for this purpose .


Here satan is being permitted for a time to demonstrate to all The intelligent beings that inhabit the far-flung reaches GOD’s vast creation whether his accusations against GOD are valid or not. Satan is being permitted To show whether or not it is true that intelligent beings do not need God’s Laws. He is being permitted to show whether or not keeping God’s Law is impossible. And he is being permitted to show whether or not God is arbitrary and unjust in His dealing with the situation.
In 1 Corinthians 4:9 we are told that this is exactly the purpose for which this earth was created ; “ For we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men. “The word “spectacle” is translated from the Greek word theatron, which means “theater”.
The Earth, therefore , is the theater of the universe where satan is being permitted to work his wiles for a tine in order to prove whether he was telling the truth or not when he spread his propaganda and started his rebellion against God in heaven. God must permits this. If He does not, doubts will always exist in the Minds of angels and men as to whether Stan was right or not. As the final result of the drama taking place on this earth, all of GOD’s creation – men , angels, And other forms of intelligent life throughout the vast reaches of spaces – Will thoroughly understand the nature of this great controversy and the importance,
Indeed the necessity, of obeying God.s Law: for they will witness the trouble , misery, pain, and death that are the natural consequences of disregarding the
Law of GOD. We are all on the this stage. The entire universe is intently watching what is taking place here.

This drama is the center of attraction , and we are the actors. We are all acting either for Satan on the One side or for God on the other. We are never alone.
The Eyes of the universal audience are every where.


Namaste

[arty2000]

Sometimes Angels Masquerade as human Beings.

How would you know who is a Human Being and who is an Angel?
Because the Fallen Angels are descaising as HUMANS.

Satan was able to deceive one-third of these angels into joining him in this battle against GOD. Revelation 12: 4 tell us that One-third of the angels fell with Satan. And his (The dragon’s, Satan’s) tail drew the third part of the stars (Angels) of heaven, and did cast them to the earth. “Thus Satan has plenty Evil angels, or devils, to help him in his purposes here on earth.

If there are so many evil angels on earth, why is it not possible for us to see them? It has already been shown that sometimes angels masquerade as human Beings, and when they do they are then visible. How ever , angels, who are a Higher order of being than we have the ability to remain invisible. As a Scriptural example of angel’s power to remain invisible.

In some case in which a man was not able to see the angel until the angel wanted to be seen, Satan and the evil angels are all over the earth , but human beings, under most circumstances, cannot see them. They do, however, make themselves visible at various times and under various circumstances. God’s holy angels are also here on the Earth as guardian angels for the True Christians, who serve the Lord as the Scriptures require, and they also
Remain invisible. We are surrounding by a great cloud of witnesses. (Hebrews 12:1)

When you watch Television, you are watching and listening to people who are deceived, and who are passing their deceptions on to you. If you go to school
, you receive instruction from teachers who are deceived. If you go to college, you are taught by professors who are deceived. When you read the newspapers or the news Magazine, you are reading the opinions of authors who are deceived by Satan. The only hope we have of penetrating this wall of lies
and deception that Satan has built around us is the Bible, the standard for the truth in our World. Remember that God cannot Lie (Titus 1:2)

How do you deceive someone> If you always tell a person the truth, will you be able to deceive him? No, you must lie to him in order to deceive him.
Does Satan therefore Lie? In John 8:44, Jesus says, “Ye are of your Father the devil, and the lusts of your father Ye will do. He was a murderer from the
Beginning, and abode not in the Truth, because there is no truth in Him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Namaste

ask for id:D

[hawk]

You don't know what's out there or isn't. I've seen demons before. Scary looking creatures,too. The ones I've seen had black skin all over and red eyes. And yes, they were winged. One was perched on top of a house. It was huge about 15 ft tall. When you see something like this, it's almost surreal. It's like they want you to see them to let you know they yes, they do exist.
Now I do believe that they can control certain things and places, people, or make events come about.
They can control governments, whoever says they don't doesn't realize that they have dominion and are considered the princes and principalities in the air. Demons can be given file and rank according to what some demonologists say. whenever you go into their territory you can almost feel a heaviness settle down on top of you. That lets you know you're in their area where they reside or rule. It's a heaviness that settles down on top of you and into your chest sometimes. Depends on how bad the infestation is.
I've had experience with these things and they do not play around. They are real and they play for keeps.
Don't try to tell me they don't exist, I know they do becuz I've seen them with my own eyes.

[decim]

http://www.reelingreviews.com/jeeperscreepers2pic.jpg

[michael christopher]

All spiritual concepts are nothing more than inkblot tests. In your world, it is certainly feasible that these governments may be fallen angels. However, I would have to ask at what point they were "angelic" in nature at all, since all of them seem to have been born of darkness and continue to exist within its confines.

[michael christopher]

I always wanted to know why certain people, knew what i was trying to hide in my Mind. Or how they moved arround without their cars.

Yes, Even at my JOB, how they communicate without talking because they have telepathic communication.

I live in the BRONX, they know me as i know them,
One of them told me when you go back to your father in HEAVEN tell him what we did to his EARTH,

I would never forget his words, He was also a falllen angel descise, and working for a BANK,

WOW, increadible to believe.

Namaste

If you think your coworkers are speaking to you telepathically then you may have a problem that would be solved with psychotherapy.

[batou]

Hey funny you should post this because I was thinking about something similar - people reading minds etc.. Well I was wondering how you would stop someone fucking with your mind if they could, and I thought hey, I'll just try to fill my head with random noise and garbage and give them too much information. Turns out it is harder to think of 10 random things at once. :(
Just a thought though.. maybe someone knows better than I do.

[hawk]

Batou, just make your mind go blank. or try to think of a song that you can't get out of your head.

[size_of_light]

Batou, just make your mind go blank. or try to think of a song that you can't get out of your head.

...or memorise one of rwederfoort's posts.

[batou]

So simple I can't believe I overlooked it. Thanks guys :D

[foxcroft]

Sounds like a bad movie.

So you're basically saying existence itself is the culmination of a "bet" between two fictional entities. Amusing.

[metacomet]

Sounds like a bad movie.

So you're basically saying existence itself is the culmination of a "bet" between two fictional entities. Amusing.

The OP deserves a better response than that.

The description of free will and love here is amazingly truthful. You will find that it works not only as a law between people but if you were to consider the motives of a creator deity it also makes total sense.

To desire love given of free will is what we all are familiar with. When we are children (if we are lucky) our parents love us even when we do bad things or make them angry. They punish us one minute but an hour later we realize that they still love us and that experience is vital for human beings. Unfortunately there are plenty of parents who fail to love their children properly whether or not they do right or wrong.

This is why human beings shake their fist at the idea of God. 'Why do you let bad things happen' etc. It's just not that simple. This is a complex issue.


In order to handle the situation which Satan had caused in heaven, God had to give him an Opportunity to show whether His accusations were valid or not. And so, the earth was created by GOD for this purpose .

Whether or not anyone here believes in God or the Devil etc. I hope people understand that this is exactly what has lead us (human beings) to discover the ego.

Not only are we as a species beginning to inspect and bear witness to the illusion of the ego - we are constantly tempted to buy back into it. This is a test. Living on this planet is a test.

I don't think it is possible to convince people of this until they have certain experiences, especially ego dissolution experiences. This is when you realize that everything 'good' and 'bad' that has happened to you in life is not happening to just you but a much larger body of consciousness which is experiencing life through all of us. All suffering and pain and pleasure are not our experiences alone they belong to root sources of consciousness and this is a hefty topic that has already been covered by Vedic spiritual sciences and so many other philosophies.

OP, you are making good ground here for excellent discussion.

[size_of_light]

Does this guy every respond to his own threads?

No.

100% junk mail.

[friendsinthesky]

Oh FFS! Satan is your alter ego, nothing more and nothing less.

[metacomet]

Damnit. Now that the thread has been merged my input makes no sense.

Anyway.

I have made peace with the idea that everything the OP is saying is true. Came to such realizations a long time ago.

I envy all of you in here who can spit at his feet and call him a 'God botherer' without taking time to consider what this is really all about.

I'm just kidding, I don't envy ignorance or prejudice at all. It's actually very disturbing. And what's even more disturbing is that people throwing their chins in the air and denying the truth has been predicted so clearly.

[fallensoul]

Even tho I dont like religions and stuff I enjoyed OP's post. They make sense, if we really resisted every temptation and never did harm in any way to others, this place would be paradise. The most little "sin" will be the catalyst to many more and worse ones. When you steal 1 candy next time maybe you will take 2-3 cuz its no big deal. Soon you will be stealing entire bags of candy.

But I dont think it is even possible to be as pure as necessary to maintain paradise on earth and its certainly impossible on global scale. Shame really.

[stfd]

Get everyone to believe that he doesnt exist.
-------------------------------------------
This 'blends' with the 'know your eenemy issue' .

One can't defend himself if he doesn't know he has an enemy.

[mikel84]

Oh FFS! Satan is your alter ego, nothing more and nothing less.

satan of the bible is a made up character

[novymir]

satan of the bible is a made up character

Yes,,, and,,, no.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1059962&postcount=6

[mikel84]

Yes,,, and,,, no.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1059962&postcount=6

ok lucifer is a made up person of the bible

[metacomet]

ok lucifer is a made up person of the bible

You should really take the time to read these threads and develop a real sense of the topic instead of waltzing in and making these statements.

It amuses me that so many people think they can just say 'that's in the bible so it's not real'. It's pretty scary ignorant.

[mikel84]

You should really take the time to read these threads and develop a real sense of the topic instead of waltzing in and making these statements.

It amuses me that so many people think they can just say 'that's in the bible so it's not real'. It's pretty scary ignorant.

i support the bible

[friendsinthesky]

satan of the bible is a made up character

Oh I should have wrote it this way --> "satan".

[purpledream]

[B]6: Polyamory, bisexuality and naturism and the Tree of Life.

In Eden we were allegedly naked, unashamed and would ‘eat from any tree’ (a Hebrew sexual metaphor; i.e., were were polyamorous). The spiritualism of our ancestors is best understood through a study of the Hebrew alphabet and the Tarot, which represents the archetypal journey of the ‘Tree of Life,’ and the archetypal experiences and persons we will meet or personify on the path of life.



Whenever I read one of your posts, you are always banging on about polyamory, like a brainwashed idiot. Not everyone spends their whole life thinking about sex constantly and wondering where they can get their next shag from.

Some of us have full and varied life full of joy and happiness and lots of hobbies, and sex is just something nice to share with your partner, if you have one.

To just shag anyone because you have programmed to think that is what you should be doing, doesn't mean you are going to get enlightened by it, lol.

I do magick, I have read Crowley's work and many others, but I didn't start thinking I should be shagging around.

This is the problem with orders like OTO and others, perverts join thinking they will be getting lots of sex in the sex magick rituals. If that is what you think magick is about, you are sadly mistaken.

No one ever told me sex is wrong and bad, I just do what I want and I don't happen to enjoy shagging someone who shags anything and anyone, that means they have no self respect or respect for me. Especially if they are men, because they using up vital energy that could be put to good use for other purposes, during rituals etc.

So quit preaching about polyamory and sexual communism. Not all animals are polygamous, and you saying they are is a blatant lie.

[novymir]

heeheehee^^^;)

[mikel84]

Oh I should have wrote it this way --> "satan".

this is the "religion" section
dnt try to sass me we know satan doesnt exist

[luciferhorus]

So quit preaching about polyamory and sexual communism. Not all animals are polygamous, and you saying they are is a blatant lie.

http://www.thuntek.net/~sclamont/images/Polyamory_large.gif

On Polyamory

Monogamy is essentially the 'sin of restriction;' it is an entirely unnatural state imposed upon humanity by the priesthood of the god of Capital and human misery. In the Capitalist world it costs a great deal of money to raise children, so traditionally a woman has tended to look for a financially secure partner to provide her with sufficient resources; this is purely out of necessity due to the Capitalist economic environment.

Monogamy is a great curse to humanity and a source of human misery.

A woman with many lovers of both genders is unlikely to experience the same unhappiness in life as a woman who is seeking out a financially secure monogamous partner.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/clarasdaughter/Polyamory.jpg

Addicted to Love

The 'love' experience is associated with flooding of the brain with certain addictive chemicals such as endorphines; thus we are chemically addicted to love and to the 'happy' drugs our body produces during the 'love' experience; it is the absence of this experience which causes great heartbreak and human suffering.

The morality of a slave

The person who is confined by the central sin of restiction (monogamy) is simply a victim of 'slave morality.'

The manifestation of Heaven on Earth demands a world of love where all are free to follow their own nature and where the curse of Christianity and the priesthood of religion has been lifted.

I do not raise such matters for my own self interest for I am a fortunate and quite 'happy' person, I merely seek to lift the curse of human slavery and misery which has been placed upon humanity for millenia.

http://www.luciferia.tv/1ChildrenOftheSlaves/6666a.jpg

Lucifer and Venus

I also have a partner whom I love very much and in this I am very fortunate. If you are perefectly content with monogamy, you are entirely fortunate, but there have been billions of souls in the world in the past who have never found happiness in love; this situation continues today and will continue until the eradication of the sin of monogamy.

To seek one's 'other half' or 'soul mate' is entirely natural; there should always be one person whom you feel the most affinity with and whom you treasure above all others, but this should not be confused with monogamy, for all our brothers and sisters were created in the divine image, and those who have 'fallen' under the hypnotic spell of the priesthood of Capitalism, restriction and paternalism can only be 'saved' through love, and as adults those whom we love the most we seek to become one with sexually; this is entirely natural; we were created this way and to restrict such a desire is a mortal sin.

Beating any price on salvation

Further since I have offered to beat any price on salvation, and the Muslims are offering 72 virgins in the afterlife, my offer of an initial 144 is dependent upon them being non monogamous. The human population is anyway roughly 50% female and 50% male. In 'heaven' there can be no question of one person exclusively possessing another person; that is rather the 'slavery' that we associate with the reality on earth of Christian and Islamic 'Hell,' where a soul is possessed exclusively by a master. A polyamorous world would be a world where the demons of heartbreak, loneliness, emotional despair and sexual repression would have been entirely exorcised.

http://www.luciferia.tv/1ChildrenOftheSlaves/baphomet666.gif

Great Work of the Ages.

The fulfillment of the 'Great Work' depends entirely upon the creation of a New Heaven and New Earth; the old world must pass away and this includes the dross of Christian and 'slave' morality in general, of which 'monogamy' is part of the core teachings of the priesthood of Capital; what we speak of here regards the liberation of Earth and of Heaven, and 'polyamory' is essential to this. In eternity we do not remain monogamous; for heaven is entirely a place of shared love; as it is in the the highest realms of Heaven, so shall it be on earth.

Heaven and Hell.

http://www.magdalen.com/uploaded_images/03-Empress-LgWeb-763538.jpg

Heaven is not a paternalistic realm, but is entirely Anarchist and feminist and is ruled by 'all' female souls who represent the image and likeness of the One immanent Mother Creator and where all males are their 'love' slaves; the Queen of Heaven is not a tyrant but merely an archetype of Venus. Hell is exactly the opposite and is a patriarchal realm where the few women there are the slaves of the many men; thus does 'religion' in general, with few exceptions, seek to manifest the kingdom of patriarchy on earth which we refer to as 'Hell on Earth;' the purpose of revolution is entirely to transform the patriarchy of Hell into the matriarchy of Heaven.

Love and Light.

Lux

More on:

http://www.polyamory.com/forum/ (discussion).

and;

http://www.polyamory.org/ (includes FAQ)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v168/heygabe/group_naked1.jpg

________________

Monogamy Is an Oddity

Very few animals are really monogamous

By Stefan Anitei, Science Editor

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Monogamy-is-an-Oddity-42006.shtml

Are you wondering why you find it so hard to keep monogamy in your relationship? Well, it's not your fault. Your genes don't have it encoded. Or have you seen monogamous apes?

Monogamy is so rare in the animal world that only 3-5 % of the mammals are known to form lifelong pair bonds, like beavers, otters, jackals, foxes, some bats and a few dwarf deer and antelopes.

http://www.loveologyuniversity.com/g_images/group_sex_1.jpg

In fact, strict monogamy is almost inexistent, as creatures that do pair for life, occasionally have flings on the side and some, like the wolf, do not mourn too much a death or a no longer sexually performing partner.

Staying faithful is extremely hard for animals, as the males are programmed to spread their genes and females to get the best genes from the best males for their young.

Instead, monogamy requires an individual to invest its entire reproductive potential on a single mate. This puts lot of pressure on each individual to choose the best mate, which, as in humans, can be tricky.

Three levels of monogamy are distinguished. Sexual monogamy is the practice of having sex only with one mate at a time, for example, pairs that last only one mating season. Social monogamy is when animals form pairs to mate and raise offspring but still have extra-pair copulations. Genetic monogamy occurs when a female's offspring are sired by only one father.

In the last case, there may be no pair bonding (like in fish or frogs). Theoretically (and just theoretically!), for humans, social and sexual monogamy usually go together, but rarely in the animal life. 90 % of all birds are socially monogamous, living and raising young together, but many frequently have extra-conjugal sex.

In one study, female blackbirds that paired with sterilized males were still laying eggs that hatched!...

Animals regarded as symbols of faithfulness, such as gibbons and swans, are now known to cheat, abandon and even "divorce" one other, exactly like in humans. And the famous example of stork fidelity is a bogus! The male is faithful in fact to the nest rather than to the female, and he won't protect her if another female fights with her for the nest.

The very few animals that do stick together are investigated to find the biological basis of fidelity. In the prairie vole, a male vole will prefer to mate exclusively with the first female he loses his virginity to. Far from trying to woo other females, a mated male vole will actually attack them: this is indeed a fanatic lover!

The rare behavior seems to be determined by high levels of certain brain neurotransmitters. One of these, dopamine, is also implicated in drug addiction in humans.

Black vulture has also high ethics: when extra-pair copulation takes place nearby, vultures will attack the philanderer. Vulture pair bonding must be strong, since both parents incubate eggs, each taking a 24-hour shift, and for eight months, the offspring gets fed by both parents.

In a beaver family, there is a strong need for cooperation to maintain their dams and pools, that's why beaver social units are so tight. Thus, monogamy evolved in situations where young need a better cooperation of both parents in raising them.

That's why humans, with their long childhood, form monogamous pairs. But male dikdiks, an African dwarf antelope, are sexually monogamous even if they are not very involved in the raising of the calves. Even so, males have to defend a territory for their families against the intrusion of other dikdiks.

As homosexuality and polygamy are proved to be rampant in the wild, monogamy might be boring for animal sexual lifestyles.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Monogamy-is-an-Oddity-42006.shtml


__________________________



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Dehypnosis for Christians and proponents of the sin of monogamy.

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[friendsinthesky]

this is the "religion" section
dnt try to sass me we know satan doesnt exist


sass yourself, I replied to this in the general section. Obviously it got moved, but I'll unsubscribe from my usercp, just so I don't bump into it again.K!

[zero1]

If you want to know all about my diabolical, Satanic ways, read this thread -

I'm the Devil, Ask Me a Question (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37710&highlight=I%27m+Devil%2C+question)

[purpledream]

http://www.thuntek.net/~sclamont/images/Polyamory_large.gif

On Polyamory

Monogamy is essentially the 'sin of restriction;' it is an entirely unnatural state imposed upon humanity by the priesthood of the god of Capital and human misery. In the Capitalist world it costs a great deal of money to raise children, so traditionally a woman has tended to look for a financially secure partner to provide her with sufficient resources; this is purely out of necessity due to the Capitalist economic environment.

Monogamy is a great curse to humanity and a source of human misery.

A woman with many lovers of both genders is unlikely to experience the same unhappiness in life as a woman who is seeking out a financially secure monogamous partner.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/clarasdaughter/Polyamory.jpg

Addicted to Love

The 'love' experience is associated with flooding of the brain with certain addictive chemicals such as endorphines; thus we are chemically addicted to love and to the 'happy' drugs our body produces during the 'love' experience; it is the absence of this experience which causes great heartbreak and human suffering.

The morality of a slave

The person who is confined by the central sin of restiction (monogamy) is simply a victim of 'slave morality.'

The manifestation of Heaven on Earth demands a world of love where all are free to follow their own nature and where the curse of Christianity and the priesthood of religion has been lifted.

I do not raise such matters for my own self interest for I am a fortunate and quite 'happy' person, I merely seek to lift the curse of human slavery and misery which has been placed upon humanity for millenia.

http://www.luciferia.tv/1ChildrenOftheSlaves/6666a.jpg

Lucifer and Venus

I also have a partner whom I love very much and in this I am very fortunate. If you are perefectly content with monogamy, you are entirely fortunate, but there have been billions of souls in the world in the past who have never found happiness in love; this situation continues today and will continue until the eradication of the sin of monogamy.

To seek one's 'other half' or 'soul mate' is entirely natural; there should always be one person whom you feel the most affinity with and whom you treasure above all others, but this should not be confused with monogamy, for all our brothers and sisters were created in the divine image, and those who have 'fallen' under the hypnotic spell of the priesthood of Capitalism, restriction and paternalism can only be 'saved' through love, and as adults those whom we love the most we seek to become one with sexually; this is entirely natural; we were created this way and to restrict such a desire is a mortal sin.

Beating any price on salvation

Further since I have offered to beat any price on salvation, and the Muslims are offering 72 virgins in the afterlife, my offer of an initial 144 is dependent upon them being non monogamous. The human population is anyway roughly 50% female and 50% male. In 'heaven' there can be no question of one person exclusively possessing another person; that is rather the 'slavery' that we associate with the reality on earth of Christian and Islamic 'Hell,' where a soul is possessed exclusively by a master. A polyamorous world would be a world where the demons of heartbreak, loneliness, emotional despair and sexual repression would have been entirely exorcised.

http://www.luciferia.tv/1ChildrenOftheSlaves/baphomet666.gif

Great Work of the Ages.

The fulfillment of the 'Great Work' depends entirely upon the creation of a New Heaven and New Earth; the old world must pass away and this includes the dross of Christian and 'slave' morality in general, of which 'monogamy' is part of the core teachings of the priesthood of Capital; what we speak of here regards the liberation of Earth and of Heaven, and 'polyamory' is essential to this. In eternity we do not remain monogamous; for heaven is entirely a place of shared love; as it is in the the highest realms of Heaven, so shall it be on earth.

Heaven and Hell.

http://www.magdalen.com/uploaded_images/03-Empress-LgWeb-763538.jpg

Heaven is not a paternalistic realm, but is entirely Anarchist and feminist and is ruled by 'all' female souls who represent the image and likeness of the One immanent Mother Creator and where all males are their 'love' slaves; the Queen of Heaven is not a tyrant but merely an archetype of Venus. Hell is exactly the opposite and is a patriarchal realm where the few women there are the slaves of the many men; thus does 'religion' in general, with few exceptions, seek to manifest the kingdom of patriarchy on earth which we refer to as 'Hell on Earth;' the purpose of revolution is entirely to transform the patriarchy of Hell into the matriarchy of Heaven.

Love and Light.

Lux

More on:

http://www.polyamory.com/forum/ (discussion).

and;

http://www.polyamory.org/ (includes FAQ)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v168/heygabe/group_naked1.jpg

________________

Monogamy Is an Oddity

Very few animals are really monogamous

By Stefan Anitei, Science Editor

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Monogamy-is-an-Oddity-42006.shtml

Are you wondering why you find it so hard to keep monogamy in your relationship? Well, it's not your fault. Your genes don't have it encoded. Or have you seen monogamous apes?

Monogamy is so rare in the animal world that only 3-5 % of the mammals are known to form lifelong pair bonds, like beavers, otters, jackals, foxes, some bats and a few dwarf deer and antelopes.

http://www.loveologyuniversity.com/g_images/group_sex_1.jpg

In fact, strict monogamy is almost inexistent, as creatures that do pair for life, occasionally have flings on the side and some, like the wolf, do not mourn too much a death or a no longer sexually performing partner.

Staying faithful is extremely hard for animals, as the males are programmed to spread their genes and females to get the best genes from the best males for their young.

Instead, monogamy requires an individual to invest its entire reproductive potential on a single mate. This puts lot of pressure on each individual to choose the best mate, which, as in humans, can be tricky.

Three levels of monogamy are distinguished. Sexual monogamy is the practice of having sex only with one mate at a time, for example, pairs that last only one mating season. Social monogamy is when animals form pairs to mate and raise offspring but still have extra-pair copulations. Genetic monogamy occurs when a female's offspring are sired by only one father.

In the last case, there may be no pair bonding (like in fish or frogs). Theoretically (and just theoretically!), for humans, social and sexual monogamy usually go together, but rarely in the animal life. 90 % of all birds are socially monogamous, living and raising young together, but many frequently have extra-conjugal sex.

In one study, female blackbirds that paired with sterilized males were still laying eggs that hatched!...

Animals regarded as symbols of faithfulness, such as gibbons and swans, are now known to cheat, abandon and even "divorce" one other, exactly like in humans. And the famous example of stork fidelity is a bogus! The male is faithful in fact to the nest rather than to the female, and he won't protect her if another female fights with her for the nest.

The very few animals that do stick together are investigated to find the biological basis of fidelity. In the prairie vole, a male vole will prefer to mate exclusively with the first female he loses his virginity to. Far from trying to woo other females, a mated male vole will actually attack them: this is indeed a fanatic lover!

The rare behavior seems to be determined by high levels of certain brain neurotransmitters. One of these, dopamine, is also implicated in drug addiction in humans.

Black vulture has also high ethics: when extra-pair copulation takes place nearby, vultures will attack the philanderer. Vulture pair bonding must be strong, since both parents incubate eggs, each taking a 24-hour shift, and for eight months, the offspring gets fed by both parents.

In a beaver family, there is a strong need for cooperation to maintain their dams and pools, that's why beaver social units are so tight. Thus, monogamy evolved in situations where young need a better cooperation of both parents in raising them.

That's why humans, with their long childhood, form monogamous pairs. But male dikdiks, an African dwarf antelope, are sexually monogamous even if they are not very involved in the raising of the calves. Even so, males have to defend a territory for their families against the intrusion of other dikdiks.

As homosexuality and polygamy are proved to be rampant in the wild, monogamy might be boring for animal sexual lifestyles.
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Yeah this is exactly the type of crap I am talking about. You changed one form of brainwashing for another, doesn't make it right.

Just let everyone make their own decisions. Like I said, not everyone wants to shag everything and everyone that moves, some people have a life.

If you love someone, you don't want anyone else. If you do, it is just lust, not love. It has nothing to do with owning someone, you can never own someone. That is the test of true love, give someone the freedom to do whatever they want, if they shag others, it isn't love.

So stop using your brainwashing to justify the fact you are not in love with your partner and go and find someone who you 'really' love. Or you could just admit that no one needs anyone else, or sex, we have everything we need within ourselves.

To be completely free you have to have no addictions at all.

If you can't bear to be alone, you are far from enlightened.

[kidsarocker]

Satan originates with Saturn worship.Forget all the Judeo Christian shite.Saturn worship is far older than Judeo Christianity nonesense.

Perhaps you should study satan in the qur'an and cross reference both religions.

When Satan fwas told by God to bow down to Adam, Satan refused and was cast down, he threatened God that he will do as much damage to the human race and steer the many away from God except the ones who have faith as he could not touch them

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Perhaps you should study satan in the qur'an and cross reference both religions.

When Satan fwas told by God to bow down to Adam, Satan refused and was cast down, he threatened God that he will do as much damage to the human race and steer the many away from God except the ones who have faith as he could not touch them

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There is no need to reference or examine Satan's portrayal in the Qu'ran since it was clearly inspired by Judaism, which was inspired by Saturn worship.

It doesn't matter what the Muslims believe about Shai-tan, nor the Christians, nor the Jews. Satan existed long before any of these three religions, known as Saturn, the God of restriction.

Satan is kind of an idiotic mistranslation of the word.

BTW El/Allah/Yahweh is Zeus. ;) The son of Satan/Saturn.