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kilik
16-06-2009, 07:22 AM
Info on the Pyramids of Giza- something's not right, we're not being told something

Video about just how exact and precise the Great Pyramid is
YouTube - Great Pyramid - Graham Hancock (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUfJw_6h9vo)

Video about ancient technology
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3...tlantis&pl=true (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3747926086715809142&q=atlantis&pl=true)

Really cool Discovery Channel documentary about the Pyramids and Sphinx
YouTube - Mystery of the Sphinx - part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PotS7hPQZTU)


Interesting info on the Great Pyramid of Giza
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parli...reatPyramid.htm (http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/2191/GreatPyramid.htm)
It is currently regarded by Egyptologists, taught throughout our schools and printed in textbooks everywhere that the Egyptians (namely Khufu) were responsible for the construction of the Great Pyramid. However, when one looks at some of the damning evidence against such a theory it becomes apparent that the Egyptologists theories are based on an archaeological fraud.

The only evidence that links Khufu with the Great Pyramid is a single "Royal Inscription" on the ceiling of the Construction chamber. Colonel Howard-Vyse discovered this inscription between 1836-1837. At the time he made the discovery, his expedition was coming to an unsuccessful close and he had very little to show for the 10,000 pounds sterling he was granted. It is more than likely (as the evidence shows) that Vyse himself forged the inscription in order to make a monumental discovery.

The Egyptians recorded everything about their religion and farming etc but there isn't a single record stating that they were responsible for building one of the Seven Wonders of the World. There is also an extreme lack of information about Khufu's past in the archeological records. There hasn't even been a single statue identified as portraying Khufu. If Khufu built the Great Pyramid, shouldn't he be famous and worshiped for such a feat.

After an examination of the inscription, it should have been noted that the writing wasn't in the correct style used at the supposed time of its construction. In fact the style used wasn't adopted until centuries after it was supposedly written. The inscription also contains inconceivable grammatical errors. A symbol used as an adjective is actually a numerical symbol. If Vyse did fake the inscription, you can assume he copied it from one of the few books available at the time. A book frequently referenced throughout Vyse's diaries is called "Materia Hieroglyphica" by Sir John Gardner Wilkinson. This book is now known to contain many errors due to the lack of understanding about Egyptian writing at the time. An important error is that it confused the sign for "Kh" with the sign for the solar disk representing "Ra". The inscription in the Great Pyramid also contains this exact same mistake! It actually reads "Ra-ufu" not "Kh-ufu". Surely this would have been an inconceivable error for an Egyptian scribe. It would also have been blasphemy since Ra was one of the foremost gods of the Egyptians.

The evidence outlined above shows beyond reasonable doubt that Vyse faked the inscription and that Khufu did not build the Great Pyramid. Yet Egyptologists still cling to the reasoning that the Pyramid must be Khufu's because it dates to 2550 BC. However the only evidence that it was built in 2550 BC is the claim by Vyse that Khufu built it. This demonstrates the kind of circular reasoning employed by many Egyptologists.

It can be proven with only basic mathematics that the Egyptions didn't build the pyramids. The Egyptologists insist that all three Great Pyramids were constructed within a century. Assuming very low numbers, the pyramids consist of 2.5 million stone blocks for each of the large 2 pyramids, and 1.0 million stone blocks for the small one giving 6.0 million stones to be cut, hauled, shaped, lifted and postioned in 100 years.

6,000,000 blocks / 1200 months = 5000 blocks laid per month

5000 blocks / 30 days per month = 166.6 blocks laid per day

166.6 blocks / 24 hour working day = 6.9 blocks laid per hour

So given very generous figures, the Egyptologists want you to believe that the Egyptions were able to complete (at a bare minimum) 7 stone blocks weighing 2.0-2.5 Tons every hour of every day for 100 years without days off for accidents or bad weather etc, using only primitive stone and copper tools, plant-fiber ropes and wooden sledges.

I don't think so!




Info on the supposed evidence for the "dating" of the Pyramid
THE GREAT PYRAMID FORGERY? (http://www.rickrichards.com/egypt/Egypt6.htm)
http://www.rickrichards.com/egypt/sec_8.gif
http://www.rickrichards.com/egypt/kh.gif
Why is the photograph of the cartouche in Figure 4 NOT an accurate representation of the SAME CARTOUCHE as depicted in Figure 3?

Based on Col. Howard Vyse's authentic historical record (dated May 27, 1837) I believe the original cartouche discovered in Campbell's Chamber looked exactly like that drawn in Figure 3 (the glob of paint looks like excess paint to me.)

But why does the modern-day photograph look so different from the original drawing of the same cartouche?

I believe that days or years or centuries or millennia later, someone (Vyse? or a modern-day Egyptian restoration project?) realized the circle needed THREE crosshatches inside it in order to correctly spell the letters "Kh" (as in Khufu) and painted three (3) crosshatches in the circle, the middle crosshatch covering the ORIGINAL DOT in the center, which is depicted in Fig.3. But, while the forger(s?) painted the new crosshatches, they inadvertently made another dreadful mistake -— They didn't quite cover up the entire DOT in the center that was originally drawn! (see Fig.3)

Examine Fig.4 again, this time VERY CLOSELY. The middle crosshatch has a very obvious and suspicious bulge in its center. I believe this bulge WAS originally A DOT at one time, particularly on May 27, 1837 when the historic discovery was first made and recorded (drawn.)

If any of you are wondering about the red, ochre paint used (by Vyse) to paint the inscriptions, interestingly enough, the same red, ochre paint the ancient Egyptians used was still in use in 1837.


Here's a very intereting article about corruption in Egypt
Lost Secrets Of The Sphinx (http://www.lyghtforce.com/Giza/)


News about fraud and corruption in Egypt-
http://www.keysofenoch.org/html/giza_update.html
Since the beginning of 2002, Dr. J.J. Hurtak and a European team of investigators and explorers have been recording the construction of a massive system of walls being placed around the historic pyramidal sites and the larger unexcavated area of Giza, Egypt — in total, an area covering approximately eight square kilometers. Why build these massive walls at this time? Certainly Giza is one of the finest archaeological zones of the world. Are there new treasures of ancient Egypt yet to be uncovered that require sophisticated technology and surveillance platforms, to protect the ongoing research along the Giza plateau? Has, perhaps, an area been discovered that shows tracings of rare earths and unique minerals? Or is it simply, as some officials are claiming, a move to protect the plateau from terrorists and control the masses of tourists visiting the area?

The standard argument for the creation of such a wall is “crowd control”, but the details of this new construction suggest an initiative that is both multi-purpose and grand scale: the wall near Nazlat al Salman will be, at a minimum, 7 meters (22 feet) high.
http://www.keysofenoch.org/assets/images/2000D1.jpg
http://www.keysofenoch.org/assets/images/2000a1.jpg
http://www.keysofenoch.org/assets/images/2000b1.jpg
http://www.keysofenoch.org/assets/images/2000e1.jpg
http://www.keysofenoch.org/assets/images/2000C1.jpg

and-
Al-Ahram Weekly | Egypt | Arrests in 'museum curse' case (http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2005/764/eg4.htm)

kilik
16-06-2009, 07:24 AM
Info on the Sphinx's underground tunnels-
Untitled Document (http://phoenix.akasha.de/~aton/HO-OSIRIS.html)

Reality-
Dr. Joseph Schor of The Schor Foundation. Schor had obtained an annually renewable five-year license to conduct acoustic and radar surveys on the Giza plateau under the direction of Florida State University. Said had entered into a joint-venture with Schor to film the work for a new documentary.

The sight he saw was very different to the one shown to the world on the FOX TV Special. A pile of muddy debris extended from the eastern side of the room and tapered off at the sides into the water. Towards the centre the partially buried enclosure also full of water broke through the debris. Said’s crew scraped away at the dirt on the chamber’s eastern side to clear a flat area for the camera tripod. It quickly became apparent that a smooth hard surface was becoming exposed. As more was revealed, a dark sarcophagus lid came into view.
vs. archaeology-
I have found a shaft, going 29 meters [95 feet approximately] vertically down into the ground, exactly halfway between the Chefren Pyramid [the middle pyramid] and the Sphinx. At the bottom, which was filled with water, we have found a burial chamber with four pillars. In the middle is a large granite sarcophagus which I expect to be the grave of Osiris, the god... I have been digging in Egypt's sand for more than 30 years, and up to date this is the most exciting discovery I have made...


1997, in dirt
http://phoenix.akasha.de/~aton/borissaid4.jpg

vs.

1999 as seen on live tv, all this water magically appeared there, and they claim ithey found it like that. But the previous site I linked shows there was no pillars or water there in 1997
http://phoenix.akasha.de/~aton/OSOut/Osiris/preview/osa15.jpg
http://phoenix.akasha.de/~aton/osiris5xx.jpg
http://phoenix.akasha.de/~aton/osirus2zz.jpg



shiiiit, they'll fake anything
http://www.redmoonrising.com/Giza/OsirisTomb1.htm






Staged television program allegedly "opening" the gatenbrink door
Into the Great PYRAMID Travel Videos (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5370601722017994536&q=into+great+pyramid&ei=mbU4SMLjI4vSrgPMvaXzAw)


Unknown symbols in the Pyramid shaft "door"? A triangle with a circle inside? on the left side of the door?
In March 1993, a small 'door' made of marble or limestone with two copper handles fixed on it was discovered by a mechanized robot (Upuaut II, "The opener of the way" in ancient Egyptian) at the end of a long narrow shaft (8 x 8 inches and 200 feet long). Since then the discoverer, robotics engineer Rudolf Gantenbrink from Munich, has been banned from resuming the exploration and opening the door.
http://forums.atlantisrising.com/ubb/ultim...ic;f=2;t=000539 (http://forums.atlantisrising.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=000539)
http://guardians.net/articles/images/north_shaft_robot_probe.jpg
http://guardians.net/hawass/articles/images/RoboticExploration/photo%20006_sm.jpg
http://www.multimediastudio.fi/pictures/shaft_door_left_handle1.jpg
http://www.multimediastudio.fi/pictures/shaft_door_left_handle2.jpg
http://www.multimediastudio.fi/pictures/shaft_door_left_handle3.jpg

kilik
16-06-2009, 07:24 AM
http://forums.atlantisrising.com/ubb/ultim...c;f=14;t=000031 (http://forums.atlantisrising.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=14;t=000031)
http://www.lhconklin.com/images/agate10_sm.jpg
http://www.clearapath.com/The_all-seeing_eye_inside_the_pyramid_-_200.jpg

Actually Pyramids were built by Thoth, not Khufu
http://www.crystalinks.com/emeraldtablet.gif
The Emerald Tablets of Thoth (http://www.crystalinks.com/emerald.html)




Giza Power
Gizapower : The Official Chris Dunn Website (http://www.gizapower.com/)

Here is an article talking about these kind of issues
Gizapower.com - Precision (http://www.gizapower.com/Precision.htm)

While it may be argued that modern man cannot impose a modern perspective on artifact that are thousands of years old, an appreciation of the level of precision found in these artifacts is lacking in archaeological literature and is only revealed by an understanding what it takes to produce this kind of work. As an engineer and craftsman, who has worked in manufacturing for over 40 years and who has created precision artifacts in our modern world, in my opinion this accomplishment in prehistory deserves more recognition. Nobody does this kind of work unless there is a very high purpose for the artifact. Even the concept of this kind of precision does not occur to an artisan unless there is no other means of accomplishing what the artifact is intended to do. The only other reason that such precision would be created in an object would be that the tools that are used to create it are so precise that they are incapable of producing anything less than precision. With either scenario, we are looking at a higher civilization in prehistory than what is currently accepted. To me, the implications are staggering.

This is why I believe that these artifacts that I have measured in Egypt, are the smoking gun that proves, without a shadow of a doubt, that a higher civilization than what we have been taught existed in ancient Egypt. The evidence is cut into the stone.

The boxes that are off the beaten tourist's path in the rock tunnels of the Serapeum would be extremely difficult to produce today. Their smooth flat surfaces, orthogonal perfection and incredibly small inside corner radii that I have inspected with modern precision straight edges, squares and radius gages, leave me in awe. Even though after contacting four precision granite manufacturers I could not find one who could replicate their perfection, I would not say that it would be impossible to make one today—if we had a good reason to do so. But what would that reason be? For what purpose would we quarry an 80-ton block of granite, hollow its inside and proceed to craft it to such a high level of accuracy? Why would we find it necessary to craft the top surface of this box so that a lid with an equally flat underside surface would sit square with the inside walls?

There may be arguments against the claims of advanced societies in prehistory. Some may argue that the lack of machinery refutes such claims, but a lack of evidence is not evidence. It is fallacious to deny or ignore what exists by arguing for what does not exist. When we ponder the purpose for creating such precision, we inexorably move beyond the simple reasons espoused by historians and are forced to consider that there was a civilization in prehistory that was far more advanced and vastly different than previously thought. We do not need to look for secret chambers or halls of records to know that this civilization existed. It is crafted into some of the hardiest materials with which they worked—igneous rock.

opulentview
16-06-2009, 06:19 PM
I remember watching that documentary when I was young. If my memory isn't distorted I believe those block of stone with melted iron or something is blocking water from passing (from the documentary don't know if it's true) that was the reason they said to not go deeper, but it's all probably bull-ish.

veritasvoice
16-06-2009, 11:30 PM
Great thread. :)

It's obvious that we've been here a lot longer than 6000-40,000 years old; we're not only stuck in a single false paradigm of left vs. right, we're stuck in a mire of them; not the least of which is the evolution vs. creation paradigm. It keeps people arguing, and keeps people away from the truth.

Our governments aren't just concealing government conspiracies - they are concealing anything and everything that might cause them to lose power over us, and allow us to render them obsolete.

There's a great deal of non-Western cultures that take as a basic fact that human beings are so much more than flesh, blood and a bit of electricity - that we are mind, body and spirit combined.

What I'd hope for in the years ahead is a shaking off of tyranny, and a new pure paradigm of human knowledge; one that incorporates the scientific, the spiritual and the paranormal into one. Science and religion are confining philosophies; both seek to maintain a status quo, rather than challenging our existence.

Human society has to expand to acknowledge individual rights, individual consciousness, individual freedoms; we need to re-evaluate so much of what we've been told, and make sure we don't fall into these traps again.

Our history, our evolution, our mind, our world, our souls, our solar system, our Universe, what it means to be truly human - I truly believe that all these things are waiting for us.

There is no such thing as the "final frontier".

hank_scorpio
17-06-2009, 02:58 AM
http://www.eridu.co.uk/Author/human_origins/Khnum1.gif

Human beings have 46 chromosomes why do our 'anscestors' have 48? I cannot find an explanation other than tinkering with dna.

void
28-06-2009, 02:45 AM
Since the beginning of 2002, Dr. J.J. Hurtak and a European team of investigators and explorers have been recording the construction of a massive system of walls being placed around the historic pyramidal sites and the larger unexcavated area of Giza, Egypt — in total, an area covering approximately eight square kilometers. Why build these massive walls at this time? Certainly Giza is one of the finest archaeological zones of the world. Are there new treasures of ancient Egypt yet to be uncovered that require sophisticated technology and surveillance platforms, to protect the ongoing research along the Giza plateau? Has, perhaps, an area been discovered that shows tracings of rare earths and unique minerals? Or is it simply, as some officials are claiming, a move to protect the plateau from terrorists and control the masses of tourists visiting the area? The standard argument for the creation of such a wall is “crowd control”, but the details of this new construction suggest an initiative that is both multi-purpose and grand scale: the wall near Nazlat al Salman will be, at a minimum, 7 meters (22 feet) high.

The wall & fence was built at astronomical cost and to be very hi-tech.

It has hundreds of CCTV attached to it all round the wall/fence.
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I managed to scale it and wasn't detected.