rwederfoort
16-06-2009, 05:47 AM
I LOVE to Share this Documented script from HEAVEN, ask your Self if this is TRUTH?
Scene opens with GOD seated on his throne surrounded by angels who are singing to him. Satan enters from across the Throne room with a surly body Guard
Of four Demons. The Music Stops.
God: Ahh, Satan How kind of you to fly in.
Satan: Your All-Graciousness.
God: You Speak politely. What do you wish of me?
Satan: I have come to (grimaces) request of your Mercifulness a small favor which shall cost you nothing. The world you gave me is in Ruins – and I only bought it a week a go! It must have been defective. Please snap your fingers and produce a more durable one for me and my subjects.
God: Ahh, let me guess. (Satan snorts at this) By the end of your first day there, war broke out in your realm. For some reason, not a few of the Demons had…. Reservations… about your Claim to sovereignty and the beneficence and justice of your use of authority. The next day, the warring factions fell apart as dissension broke out in their ranks. A free-for-all ensued, and within days the entire paradise I afforded you and your servants was torched and went up in flames.
Satan: Actually, you’re misrepresenting a few minor details…..
God: Is there some reason that you feel that you and you companions could take better care of a future world than they took care of the ONES I already created for you?
Satan: I have many new Internal controls I’m implementing.
God: Satan, Satan, Satan, If I acceded to your request yet again, it would be the fourth paradise world I created for you and your lost companions this month. No matter how hard Your try to deceive yourself, reality will always and incessantly witness to you that there is no paradise, no peace, no harmony, no hope without allowing me to be its Foundation. If you would merely repent I could……….
Satan: (furious) NEVER !!!!
God: (genially) Well then, if that’s all I’d
like to get back……
Satan: (quickly) recovering from his outbursts) Actually there is one more minor detail to ask you about. Did I hear a rumor that you intend to create another place anyway, one that will Be home to neither the Slaves nor the Liberated but a totally new species?
God: (Smiling) You heard correctly.
Satan: (probing) Will you make this species a race of puppets who will have no capacity to break free the way that I did?
God: (signs, knowing where this is going) No, I am not going to do it that way.
Satan: (appearing to be indignant) Well then, are you going to stack the deck like you did with the Angels and offer a beautiful durable Heaven to them for staying your slaves???
God: (pause a moment) You object to having begun your existence in Heaven? No matter, what do you suggest that I do this time?
Satan: (Appears to be thinking) Just a minute…. They need to exist in a neutral place…… One in which the reward of that which you call LOVE and obedience are not visible! And one in which the revenge the “just punishments” you bestow upon those who live free to live for themselves are also invisible! Your rewards and punishments must be invisible AND deferred for a reasonable length of time.
God: Length of time…..say a year or two?
Satan: No, a century at the very least! These beings must have plenty of time to contemplate the dignity of freedom and the constraints of slavery. Then they will all see the truth and So will you! That Love is just another word for (starts to whine) “you do what I want so I cab have what I want … and … you can pretend to be happy all you want and I’ll be a good Slave-driver …. And “(turns his face from God).
God: What an interesting idea, I wonder how it got into your head…..
Satan: And that’s not all! They cannot know about you!
God: (appears shocked) What?
Satan: They can theorize about a creator all they want, but they must not see you!! Seeing you will only force them to Serve you for fear of you Power, just like your slaves did!! I If all this free will you crow about has any value at all – they MUST be free to REASONABLY believe that you don’t exist !!!! Then, (smiling and soft voice again, as a tempter) Then , they shall be truly free, and their choice to seek you and love you and serve you will be genuine, and pure, and precious!!! Every good choice they make will be for Goodness itself, not for a reward, otherwise it wouldn’t be good, would it?
God: Hmmmm, how are they to explain their own existence, and their surroundings, without reference to their Creator?
Satan: This is the good part. Create a Universe that appear capable of creating itself! A Universe with natural laws that enable it to people itself without requiring a Creator’s had!! Allow Them to RESONABLY believe that their existence is merely the product of impersonal natural laws and that virtue might be merely a concept. (Tantalizing) They will be free to theorize about the
Existence of a Creator, if they freely choose to do so.
God: A self-creating Universe? Do you really expect intelligent beings to buy that nonsense?
Satan: (Grinning) Are you implying that you are UNABLE to create a Universe that appears capable of self-creation?
God: I’m SAYING that I am incapable of lying or Deceiving. If I do as you suggest, they will theorize about a self-creating Universe, or an infinite uncreated Universe, without any evidence From me. In addition, they will responsible for what they assume. Another Question: how can they decide to LOVE me, or believe that I care for them, if I cannot communicate with them, as You purpose?
Satan: I didn’t say that you couldn’t communicate with them—no, bear with me! Let them know you as a person, but they must not have a clue that you are so powerful or so
Smart. Not at first, AND, you MUST allow ME to communicate with them on equal footing with you! TO the very degree that you present your point. I must present my Counterpoint! They will decide for you, or for me. I mean for them selves, with no certainly of your ability to ruin it all by rewarding some choices and punishing others!
God : Well , you’ve had you say. Whatever I do, it won’t be boring, not with you around. You may go now, and you’ll have a box-office view of what I have decide……
You Decide for you SELF who tells the TRUTH.
Namaste
Scene opens with GOD seated on his throne surrounded by angels who are singing to him. Satan enters from across the Throne room with a surly body Guard
Of four Demons. The Music Stops.
God: Ahh, Satan How kind of you to fly in.
Satan: Your All-Graciousness.
God: You Speak politely. What do you wish of me?
Satan: I have come to (grimaces) request of your Mercifulness a small favor which shall cost you nothing. The world you gave me is in Ruins – and I only bought it a week a go! It must have been defective. Please snap your fingers and produce a more durable one for me and my subjects.
God: Ahh, let me guess. (Satan snorts at this) By the end of your first day there, war broke out in your realm. For some reason, not a few of the Demons had…. Reservations… about your Claim to sovereignty and the beneficence and justice of your use of authority. The next day, the warring factions fell apart as dissension broke out in their ranks. A free-for-all ensued, and within days the entire paradise I afforded you and your servants was torched and went up in flames.
Satan: Actually, you’re misrepresenting a few minor details…..
God: Is there some reason that you feel that you and you companions could take better care of a future world than they took care of the ONES I already created for you?
Satan: I have many new Internal controls I’m implementing.
God: Satan, Satan, Satan, If I acceded to your request yet again, it would be the fourth paradise world I created for you and your lost companions this month. No matter how hard Your try to deceive yourself, reality will always and incessantly witness to you that there is no paradise, no peace, no harmony, no hope without allowing me to be its Foundation. If you would merely repent I could……….
Satan: (furious) NEVER !!!!
God: (genially) Well then, if that’s all I’d
like to get back……
Satan: (quickly) recovering from his outbursts) Actually there is one more minor detail to ask you about. Did I hear a rumor that you intend to create another place anyway, one that will Be home to neither the Slaves nor the Liberated but a totally new species?
God: (Smiling) You heard correctly.
Satan: (probing) Will you make this species a race of puppets who will have no capacity to break free the way that I did?
God: (signs, knowing where this is going) No, I am not going to do it that way.
Satan: (appearing to be indignant) Well then, are you going to stack the deck like you did with the Angels and offer a beautiful durable Heaven to them for staying your slaves???
God: (pause a moment) You object to having begun your existence in Heaven? No matter, what do you suggest that I do this time?
Satan: (Appears to be thinking) Just a minute…. They need to exist in a neutral place…… One in which the reward of that which you call LOVE and obedience are not visible! And one in which the revenge the “just punishments” you bestow upon those who live free to live for themselves are also invisible! Your rewards and punishments must be invisible AND deferred for a reasonable length of time.
God: Length of time…..say a year or two?
Satan: No, a century at the very least! These beings must have plenty of time to contemplate the dignity of freedom and the constraints of slavery. Then they will all see the truth and So will you! That Love is just another word for (starts to whine) “you do what I want so I cab have what I want … and … you can pretend to be happy all you want and I’ll be a good Slave-driver …. And “(turns his face from God).
God: What an interesting idea, I wonder how it got into your head…..
Satan: And that’s not all! They cannot know about you!
God: (appears shocked) What?
Satan: They can theorize about a creator all they want, but they must not see you!! Seeing you will only force them to Serve you for fear of you Power, just like your slaves did!! I If all this free will you crow about has any value at all – they MUST be free to REASONABLY believe that you don’t exist !!!! Then, (smiling and soft voice again, as a tempter) Then , they shall be truly free, and their choice to seek you and love you and serve you will be genuine, and pure, and precious!!! Every good choice they make will be for Goodness itself, not for a reward, otherwise it wouldn’t be good, would it?
God: Hmmmm, how are they to explain their own existence, and their surroundings, without reference to their Creator?
Satan: This is the good part. Create a Universe that appear capable of creating itself! A Universe with natural laws that enable it to people itself without requiring a Creator’s had!! Allow Them to RESONABLY believe that their existence is merely the product of impersonal natural laws and that virtue might be merely a concept. (Tantalizing) They will be free to theorize about the
Existence of a Creator, if they freely choose to do so.
God: A self-creating Universe? Do you really expect intelligent beings to buy that nonsense?
Satan: (Grinning) Are you implying that you are UNABLE to create a Universe that appears capable of self-creation?
God: I’m SAYING that I am incapable of lying or Deceiving. If I do as you suggest, they will theorize about a self-creating Universe, or an infinite uncreated Universe, without any evidence From me. In addition, they will responsible for what they assume. Another Question: how can they decide to LOVE me, or believe that I care for them, if I cannot communicate with them, as You purpose?
Satan: I didn’t say that you couldn’t communicate with them—no, bear with me! Let them know you as a person, but they must not have a clue that you are so powerful or so
Smart. Not at first, AND, you MUST allow ME to communicate with them on equal footing with you! TO the very degree that you present your point. I must present my Counterpoint! They will decide for you, or for me. I mean for them selves, with no certainly of your ability to ruin it all by rewarding some choices and punishing others!
God : Well , you’ve had you say. Whatever I do, it won’t be boring, not with you around. You may go now, and you’ll have a box-office view of what I have decide……
You Decide for you SELF who tells the TRUTH.
Namaste