First UK Swine Flu death

[ennui]

Someone in Scotland has died of Swine flu. They are understood to have had other health problems.

cue the mass press hysteria.

[frase]

Yeah I see...Phase 2 of the hysteria will now begin....

[sithnemesis]

Swine Flu
http://images.fandango.com/images/commentator/outbreak1.jpg http://www.ury.york.ac.uk/news/media/222-swine-flu.jpg http://www.acu.edu/academics/library/images/SwineFlu.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4b/Diagram_of_swine_flu_symptoms.svg/423px-Diagram_of_swine_flu_symptoms.svg.png

http://www.wardy7.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/swine-flu.jpg

Episode 2 Attack of the FLU

Disgustingly frightening

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/liverpoolecho/may2009/0/6/swine-flu-460-758810978.jpg http://coachrouse.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/swine-flu-gets-viral.jpg
CSI Caruso
http://images.travelpod.com/users/jackie818/1.1242947340.swine-flu-test.jpg

[dangermouse]

Swine Flu
http://images.fandango.com/images/commentator/outbreak1.jpg http://www.ury.york.ac.uk/news/media/222-swine-flu.jpg http://www.acu.edu/academics/library/images/SwineFlu.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4b/Diagram_of_swine_flu_symptoms.svg/423px-Diagram_of_swine_flu_symptoms.svg.png

http://www.marktalk.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/swine_flu_i_5_sign.jpg http://1funny.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/swine-flu-medication.jpg

Episode 2 Attack of the FLU

Disgustingly frightening

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/liverpoolecho/may2009/0/6/swine-flu-460-758810978.jpg http://coachrouse.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/swine-flu-gets-viral.jpg
CSI Caruso
http://images.travelpod.com/users/jackie818/1.1242947340.swine-flu-test.jpg
caruso putting on a second set of glasses .. i love his cheesieness

[musics]

They really take us for fools the mainstream media, with the big headlines,

first uk death of swine flu then later on in the reports they casually mention

that the the patient had UNDERLINING MEDICAL ISSUES,so how can they say

he died of swine flu.....crazy

[dangermouse]

They really take us for fools the mainstream media, with the big headlines,

first uk death of swine flu then later on in the reports they casually mention

that the the patient had UNDERLINING MEDICAL ISSUES,so how can they say

he died of swine flu.....crazy

prolly heart disease or something.

[qeutey]

so how can they say

he died of swine flu.....crazy

Because he or she would not now have grieving relatives had it not been for swine flu. "UNDERLINING MEDICAL ISSUES" not "underlying terminal condition".

[orderoutofchaos]

This is not hysteria. This is real, hospitals up and down the country are preparing for a huge number of swine flu admissions to a and e departments. Come September we could have a real problem on our hands. The people who claim this is all manufactured buyllshit should think again and start preparing.

[ennui]

This is not hysteria. This is real, hospitals up and down the country are preparing for a huge number of swine flu admissions to a and e departments. Come September we could have a real problem on our hands. The people who claim this is all manufactured buyllshit should think again and start preparing.

It's only going to go tits up when they start giving people vaccines that make them die. Otherwise it won't be any worse than normal flu.

[sithnemesis]

It's only going to go tits up when they start giving people vaccines that make them die. Otherwise it won't be any worse than normal flu.

SPOT ON boredom.. I mean :)ennui

Novartis the agent of the plague... one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse

http://blog.nj.com/ledgerupdates_impact/2009/06/large_nvsf.jpg

[bulletproofheart]

caruso putting on a second set of glasses .. i love his cheesieness

That guy on the left next to the woman looks like my Brother so much.That is actually quite creepy.

[call2571]

This is not hysteria. This is real, hospitals up and down the country are preparing for a huge number of swine flu admissions to a and e departments. Come September we could have a real problem on our hands. The people who claim this is all manufactured buyllshit should think again and start preparing.

It will be real once they start with the vaccines and Tamiflu.
Remember the Baxter 'Accident'?
None of our MSM thought it was important enough to mention.

[abigail]

Do you think that it would be ok to defend yourself from an authorised vaccination bod if it were to be forced upon people? I just dont see how they could enforce this. Do you?:rolleyes:

[orderoutofchaos]

Youre making me laugh now. Forced vaccines?? Why the fuck would they need to use forced vaccines.

IF THEY REALLY WANTED TO KILL YOU THEY WOULD HAVE MADE THE STRAIN OF FLU STONGER SO IT WOULD KILL YOU OUTRIGHT. NO NEED FOR ANY VACCINE THEN.

Remember, not everything is a conspiracy.

[ennui]

Youre making me laugh now. Forced vaccines?? Why the fuck would they need to use forced vaccines.

IF THEY REALLY WANTED TO KILL YOU THEY WOULD HAVE MADE THE STRAIN OF FLU STONGER SO IT WOULD KILL YOU OUTRIGHT. NO NEED FOR ANY VACCINE THEN.

Remember, not everything is a conspiracy.

I wouldn't want them sticking anything in me. New guidelines allow a vaccine to be released immediately without animal or human trails. These trails are essential, especially when you remember the 350 people who died in Poland last year: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/poland/ (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/poland/2235676/Homeless-people-die-after-bird-flu-vaccine-trial-in-Poland.html). Also they found live Avian flu virus in a flu vaccine recently:http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2009...27/8560781.html (http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2009/02/27/8560781.html). If they'd given that to people it could have allowed the Avian flu to mutate so that it could pass from human to human.

Those scientist in canada discovered that there had been no mutation of the virus which could explain why it was more severe in Mexico. Made me think it could be a ethnic targeted bioweapons test. They've been around for years. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/259222.stm
Just google genetic targeted bioweapons or ethnic bioweapon.

Also in 2007 scientists unravelled the genome behind the Spanish flu. It took them ten years to do this. This information could be very useful to anyone wanting to create a bioweapon.

Remember the suspicious deaths of the microbiologists - Dr. David Kelly, Dr. Que, Wiley, Schwartz, Paschnek and Dr. Nguyen?

Que and Wiley were engaged in DNA sequencing that could provide "a genetic marker based on genetic profiling". The research could play an important role in developing weaponised pathogens to hit selected groups of humans identifying them by race. In November 2001, Que left his laboratory after receiving a telephone call. Shortly afterward he was found comatose in the parking lot of the Miami Medical School. He died without regaining consciousness.
Police said he had suffered a heart attack. His family insisted he had been in perfect health and claimed four men attacked him. But, later, oddly, the
family inquest returned a verdict of death by natural causes.
Many questions remain about Que's death:
Who was the mystery caller who sent Que hurrying from his lab hours before he was scheduled to leave? What attempts did the police make to track the four mystery men -- after admitting Que was the "probable" victim of an attempt to steal his car? What were his links to the U.S. Department of Defense? What happened to his sensitive research into DNA sequencing? How close were his connections to Kelly?

A few days after Que died, Wiley disappeared off a bridge spanning the Mississippi River. He had just left a banquet for fellow researchers in
Memphis. Weeks later, Wiley's body was found 300 miles down river. As with Que, his family said he was in perfect health. There was no autopsy. The local medical examiner returned a verdict of accidental death. It was suggested he had a dizzy spell and fell off the bridge.

Dr. David Kelly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Kelly_(weapons_expert)) was involved with ultra secret work at Israel's Institute for Biological Research. Israel has not signed the Biological Weapons and Toxins Convention, an international treaty ratified by more than 140 countries. It forbids the development, possession and use of offensive biological and chemical weapons.

Makes you wonder if they knew too much.

[musics]

Because he or she would not now have grieving relatives had it not been for swine flu. "UNDERLINING MEDICAL ISSUES" not "underlying terminal condition".

Ok,,,,, so thousands of people die every year from flu in the uk, and if you

have underlining medical issues catching the flu or a cold can be very

very serious, thats always been the case, especially with old people, I don't

think the majority if people who die every year from seasonal flu

have 'underlying terminal conditions" but they still die so it is totally

misleading for the media to make out like this person died of JUST swine

flu....don't you think?

[qeutey]

Ok,,,,, so thousands of people die every year from flu in the uk, and if you

have underlining medical issues catching the flu or a cold can be very

very serious, thats always been the case, especially with old people, I don't

think the majority if people who die every year from seasonal flu

have 'underlying terminal conditions" but they still die so it is totally

misleading for the media to make out like this person died of JUST swine

flu....don't you think?

Don't get what point you are trying to make but I don't see why the media are being totally misleading when they are pointing out she had underlying medical issues, as you have clearly noted. As far as I am conserned she would still be alive today had she not caught the new swine flu. It's the first in the country. Hopefully the last, but I very much doubt that.

I wonder how many of the passengers on the Air France plane had "underlying health issues" - obesity, asthma etc. They don't say 150 passengers died and a few more had health issues so don't count.

[hey_jude]

Because he or she would not now have grieving relatives had it not been for swine flu. "UNDERLINING MEDICAL ISSUES" not "underlying terminal condition".


Ok,,,,, so thousands of people die every year from flu in the uk, and if you

have underlining medical issues catching the flu or a cold can be very

very serious, thats always been the case, especially with old people, I don't

think the majority if people who die every year from seasonal flu

have 'underlying terminal conditions" but they still die so it is totally

misleading for the media to make out like this person died of JUST swine

flu....don't you think?

Don't get what point you are trying to make but I don't see why the media are being totally misleading when they are pointing out she had underlying medical issues, as you have clearly noted. As far as I am conserned she would still be alive today had she not caught the new swine flu. It's the first in the country. Hopefully the last, but I very much doubt that.

I wonder how many of the passengers on the Air France plane had "underlying health issues" - obesity, asthma etc. They don't say 150 passengers died and a few more had health issues so don't count.

What an absolutely pathetic statment in red!
I think you know very well the valid point musics is making ...an "under lying health condition" or "underlying medical issue" that compromises the immune system can easily allow a low level risk disease to become a fatal consequence; FACT!

[musics]

Don't get what point you are trying to make but I don't see why the media are being totally misleading when they are pointing out she had underlying medical issues, as you have clearly noted. As far as I am conserned she would still be alive today had she not caught the new swine flu. It's the first in the country. Hopefully the last, but I very much doubt that.

I wonder how many of the passengers on the Air France plane had "underlying health issues" - obesity, asthma etc. They don't say 150 passengers died and a few more had health issues so don't count.

ok, this is the way I look at it, maybe I'm wrong, but if this person didn't

have underlining health issues he/she would still be alive today , from what

I've read about the swine flu is that the symtoms are just the same as

having a bad flu, so if this person caught 'a bad flu' unfortunatly he/she would

have most probaly come to the same end, because of the underlying medical

issues he/she had. This poor person died of the flu....flu just been given a

new name, someone coughs..swine flu...sneezes....swine flu it's

everywhere...the war on flu....vaccinations please....

If they bring out another virus later in the year and make it more deadly the

thats another matter..

[john connor]

so do they know somthing we don't or just Big Brother Crap propoganda??



Some GPs may refuse to work if the swine flu pandemic spreads throughout the UK, union leaders have warned.

The British Medical Association said family doctors were worried about being sued over the care they provided and a lack of death-in-service cover.

The BMA said doctors would be "putting their lives on the line" and needed assurances they were properly covered.

NHS Employers, which negotiates GPs' contracts, said it was trying to resolve the death-in-service issue.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8097155.stm

[franky000]

Start stocking up on lemons.

[hey_jude]

As regular as clockwork, the mass media warns mankind of the dangers of an impending pandemic.
In 2003 we had SARS, 3 years ago it was bird-flu and now we have swine-flu hysteria.
3 years ago the mass media terrified all of mankind with reports about the bird-flu pandemic. Emergency meetings were held, whole areas were quarantined, no news programs were broadcast without a global map to show how the bird-flu pandemic ostensibly spread.
Then all of a sudden it was over. What had happened?
Dr. Rath Research Institute in California, succeeded in demonstrating that the most effective way to control the flu virus is through an optimum intake of vitamins and certain micronutrients. The finding of this groundbreaking research was published in the New York Times on March 24th 2006 under the heading: "Public Health Information for the Governments of the World".

The pathogen of the swine flu is the influenza virus. The influenza virus that affects pigs, birds and other creatures as well as humans often differs only because of tiny alterations in the protein sequence. Therefore, it is not unusual that viruses found in pigs also occur in people. Hence, whether a virus is dangerous or not depends on its structure and not upon the animal(s) it comes from.

What does the name H1N1 for the virus mean?
The letter H stands for hemagglutinin and the letter N for neuraminidase. Both are enzymes covering the surface of the virus. There are various types of H protein; number 1 describes a certain strain of virus. The influenza virus H1 N1 is by no means an anomaly. The H1 N1 virus is one of the most common. Every news report that assigns specific dangers to the H1 N1 virus is scientifically untenable and could be accused of scare mongering.

read the whole doc.
www.dr-rath-foundation-org/influenza-fakten

There are only 2 reasons for this mass hysteria and that is financial and political. The biggest financial beneficiary is the pharmaceutical industry, earning billions by selling its chemical products and claiming that these will ostensibly avert flu infection. No surprise then, why these hysteria events visit our planet with alarming regularity.

Politicians allow this to happen as they insidiously curtail civil rights and dictate to a fearful population. The more fear firmly established the more control the politicians possess! Simples :)

[darkman]

As regular as clockwork, the mass media warns mankind of the dangers of an impending pandemic.
In 2003 we had SARS, 3 years ago it was bird-flu and now we have swine-flu hysteria.
3 years ago the mass media terrified all of mankind with reports about the bird-flu pandemic. Emergency meetings were held, whole areas were quarantined, no news programs were broadcast without a global map to show how the bird-flu pandemic ostensibly spread.
Then all of a sudden it was over. What had happened?
Dr. Rath Research Institute in California, succeeded in demonstrating that the most effective way to control the flu virus is through an optimum intake of vitamins and certain micronutrients. The finding of this groundbreaking research was published in the New York Times on March 24th 2006 under the heading: "Public Health Information for the Governments of the World".

The pathogen of the swine flu is the influenza virus. The influenza virus that affects pigs, birds and other creatures as well as humans often differs only because of tiny alterations in the protein sequence. Therefore, it is not unusual that viruses found in pigs also occur in people. Hence, whether a virus is dangerous or not depends on its structure and not upon the animal(s) it comes from.

What does the name H1N1 for the virus mean?
The letter H stands for hemagglutinin and the letter N for neuraminidase. Both are enzymes covering the surface of the virus. There are various types of H protein; number 1 describes a certain strain of virus. The influenza virus H1 N1 is by no means an anomaly. The H1 N1 virus is one of the most common. Every news report that assigns specific dangers to the H1 N1 virus is scientifically untenable and could be accused of scare mongering.

read the whole doc.
www.dr-rath-foundation-org/influenza-fakten

There are only 2 reasons for this mass hysteria and that is financial and political. The biggest financial beneficiary is the pharmaceutical industry, earning billions by selling its chemical products and claiming that these will ostensibly avert flu infection. No surprise then, why these hysteria events visit our planet with alarming regularity.

Politicians allow this to happen as they insidiously curtail civil rights and dictate to a fearful population. The more fear firmly established the more control the politicians possess! Simples :)

well done hey jude
i see some of the new posters are still sucked into this fools operation to control us all again
but then thats how the media do it create it , mass advertise it , then see the fear peaple have ,so then another operation comes out , i think were due a terrorist threat from the late osama
or even some more climate change on the horizon , as peaple are now bored o this great deppession were in( or so its called ) , and so the machine keeps rolling
bring on the next
oh and why does everything happen in scotland first

[anthony65]

As regular as clockwork, the mass media warns mankind of the dangers of an impending pandemic.
In 2003 we had SARS, 3 years ago it was bird-flu and now we have swine-flu hysteria.
3 years ago the mass media terrified all of mankind with reports about the bird-flu pandemic. Emergency meetings were held, whole areas were quarantined, no news programs were broadcast without a global map to show how the bird-flu pandemic ostensibly spread.
Then all of a sudden it was over. What had happened?
Dr. Rath Research Institute in California, succeeded in demonstrating that the most effective way to control the flu virus is through an optimum intake of vitamins and certain micronutrients. The finding of this groundbreaking research was published in the New York Times on March 24th 2006 under the heading: "Public Health Information for the Governments of the World".

The pathogen of the swine flu is the influenza virus. The influenza virus that affects pigs, birds and other creatures as well as humans often differs only because of tiny alterations in the protein sequence. Therefore, it is not unusual that viruses found in pigs also occur in people. Hence, whether a virus is dangerous or not depends on its structure and not upon the animal(s) it comes from.

What does the name H1N1 for the virus mean?
The letter H stands for hemagglutinin and the letter N for neuraminidase. Both are enzymes covering the surface of the virus. There are various types of H protein; number 1 describes a certain strain of virus. The influenza virus H1 N1 is by no means an anomaly. The H1 N1 virus is one of the most common. Every news report that assigns specific dangers to the H1 N1 virus is scientifically untenable and could be accused of scare mongering.

read the whole doc.
www.dr-rath-foundation-org/influenza-fakten

There are only 2 reasons for this mass hysteria and that is financial and political. The biggest financial beneficiary is the pharmaceutical industry, earning billions by selling its chemical products and claiming that these will ostensibly avert flu infection. No surprise then, why these hysteria events visit our planet with alarming regularity.

Politicians allow this to happen as they insidiously curtail civil rights and dictate to a fearful population. The more fear firmly established the more control the politicians possess! Simples :)


Nice post.

This thread reminds me of the French heatwave a few years ago that supposedly killed 15,000 people. It was portrayed as a sign of global warming. It was more due to the massive incompetence in France (intentional I wonder) where many old people were left in inhuman conditions. How can an advanced nation not ensure that it's people are protected from the heat?

Most of the people who died were elderly. Some didn't die until after the heatwave, but the figures were used to put the fear of global warming into everyone...

What they didn't mention of course was the use of weather manipulation, which is often used to push around the jet streams for example and ensure weather catastrophes.

Problem / Reaction / Solution...

So familiar...

http://www.usatoday.com/weather/news/2003-09-25-france-heat_x.htm

[skunksmash]

Youre making me laugh now. Forced vaccines?? Why the fuck would they need to use forced vaccines.

IF THEY REALLY WANTED TO KILL YOU THEY WOULD HAVE MADE THE STRAIN OF FLU STONGER SO IT WOULD KILL YOU OUTRIGHT. NO NEED FOR ANY VACCINE THEN.

Remember, not everything is a conspiracy.

this is true....... why risk ppl not falling ill at all, or having us ''truthers'' avoid the shot completely..??, it makes no sense for the vaccine to be the catalyst, when they could of saved billions & killed us with the virus alone..??

but i still believe the vaccinations aid infertility & affect the way the creative side of your brain functions... or it may even be the beginnings of ''Veri chip'' implantation, i know nano tech is easily advanced enough for microscopic chips.

so.... thats why they're a ''no no'' for me & mine ;)



:)SK

[steevo]

so do they know somthing we don't or just Big Brother Crap propoganda??



Some GPs may refuse to work if the swine flu pandemic spreads throughout the UK, union leaders have warned.

The British Medical Association said family doctors were worried about being sued over the care they provided and a lack of death-in-service cover.

The BMA said doctors would be "putting their lives on the line" and needed assurances they were properly covered.

NHS Employers, which negotiates GPs' contracts, said it was trying to resolve the death-in-service issue.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8097155.stm

So who will do the vaccinations then ? The army ?

[anthony65]

Youre making me laugh now. Forced vaccines?? Why the fuck would they need to use forced vaccines.

IF THEY REALLY WANTED TO KILL YOU THEY WOULD HAVE MADE THE STRAIN OF FLU STONGER SO IT WOULD KILL YOU OUTRIGHT. NO NEED FOR ANY VACCINE THEN.

Remember, not everything is a conspiracy.

Pretty much everything is a conspiracy...

People conspiring together to achieve a particular aim, whether it be profit, power, market share, etc. etc.

Is the vaccine there to kill people?

Perhaps...

But probably not.

More likely it fulfils other objectives.

And there are lots of them.

Can they force vaccines? Mandatory vaccination?

Oh yes. They can try. No vaccine. No work, etc....

But as has been pointed out already on the forum. If the vaccines really stop the swine flu, then those who refuse to be vaccinated are only taking a personal risk.

It is all manufactured. But for what precise reasons?

Who knows?

Keep sucking on lemons and eating fruit! :)

[anthony65]

So who will do the vaccinations then ? The army ?


In the US, Homeland Security perhaps?

In the UK, The Salvation Army?

Or New Labour's Brave New Army of informers...

[hitithard]

hmm

This isssue with the vaccination is a difficult one. I have never avoided a vaccination before, and not sure weather i should boycott this one.

I have had many vaccinations in my life...the most memorable being the BCG. I have been to Africa before and had to have a few to go there...

Who knows,

I just don't know what Ill do. I do not like the idea of this flu vaccination at all, there seems to be something not right about it. Weather its the long term effects, the money being made of it ( although i guess like all drugs) something..

[drhemp]

People die from the flu every day, it's normal, this is not news.

[always_rebel]

Someone in Scotland has died of Swine flu. They are understood to have had other health problems.

cue the mass press hysteria.

I want his/her name, interview with his/her family and a pic of his grave. Also proof it was not human strain flu.





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[always_rebel]

read the whole doc.
www.dr-rath-foundation-org/influenza-fakten


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[always_rebel]

These trails are essential, especially when you remember the 350 people who died in Poland last year: [url="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/poland/2235676/Homeless-people-die-after-bird-flu-vaccine-trial-in-Poland.html"]



The article is not there!!! Can you still see it? I see the page with Telegraph's logo but nothing more.

from other websites:

Three Polish doctors and six nurses are facing criminal prosecution after a number of homeless people died following medical trials for a vaccine to the H5N1 bird-flu virus.

The medical staff, from the northern town of Grudziadz, are being investigated over medical trials on as many as 350 homeless and poor people last year, which prosecutors say involved an untried vaccine to the highly-contagious virus.

Authorities claim that the alleged victims received £1-2 to be tested with what they thought was a conventional flu vaccine but, according to investigators, was actually an anti bird-flu drug.

The director of a Grudziadz homeless centre, Mieczyslaw Waclawski, told a Polish newspaper that last year, 21 people from his centre died, a figure well above the average of about eight.

Although authorities have yet to prove a direct link between the deaths and the activities of the medical staff, Poland's health minister, Ewa Kopacz, has said that the doctors and nurses involved should not return to their profession. "It is in the interests of all doctors that those who are responsible for this are punished," the minister added.

Investigators are also probing the possibility that the medical staff may have also have deceived the pharmaceutical companies that commissioned the trials.

The suspects said that the all those involved knew that the trial involved an anti-H5N1 drug and willingly participated.

The news of the investigation will come as another blow to the reputation of Poland's beleaguered and poverty-stricken national health service. In 2002, a number of ambulance medics were found guilty of killing their patients for commissions from funeral companies.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/poland/2235676/Homeless-people-die-after-bid-flu-vaccine-trial-in-Poland.html


http://www.flutrackers.com/forum/archive/index.php?t-73106.html

Each of the homeless got an equivalent of one pound per shot.




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[qeutey]

What an absolutely pathetic statment in red!
I think you know very well the valid point musics is making ...an "under lying health condition" or "underlying medical issue" that compromises the immune system can easily allow a low level risk disease to become a fatal consequence; FACT!

Thank you for agreeing with me. That was the point I was making!

[offspring of eve]

The premature son of Jacqui Fleming has died. Jacqui 38 died on Sunday two weeks after giving birth to her son Jack. Jack died today it is reported he did not die of swine flu
It is so tragic and very sad, Thoughts and prayers are sent to their family and friends

[qeutey]

That confused me

so how can they say he died of swine flu.....crazy

but it seems we speak the same language, after all!

This poor person died of the flu

Swine flu is just a name. The name of a new strain of flu. Tests differentiate between this new flu and other strains. A strain that no one has any immunity from, unlike seasonal flu, which is why so many people are catching it in such a short time and why so many will die. (many with other conditions, some without) That is also why people are catching it and dying from it at this time of the year when, in the northern hemisphere, seasonal flu it too weak to do anything. This is assuming it does not mutate and become more deadly or mix with versions of seasonal flu which again is what flu is very good at. This is part of the natural cycle that repeats about every 40 years and is well understood by science. In a few years time when the population gains immunity from it, it will become part of the new seasonal flu.

[mightyoak]

So any news off any mass pig infections yet ? NOPE neither have I !

[qeutey]

So any news off any mass pig infections yet ? NOPE neither have I !

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gvO_AyZ-6naubqk5uIdCbT3Hp7UgD98BB5A02

http://www.manitobacooperator.ca/issues/ISArticle.asp?aid=1000325919&PC=FBC&issue=05192009

[dangermouse]

Do you think that it would be ok to defend yourself from an authorised vaccination bod if it were to be forced upon people? I just dont see how they could enforce this. Do you?:rolleyes:

what we need is one of those dummy joke arms :D

[deexmx]

That confused me



but it seems we speak the same language, after all!



Swine flu is just a name. The name of a new strain of flu. Tests differentiate between this new flu and other strains. A strain that no one has any immunity from, unlike seasonal flu, which is why so many people are catching it in such a short time and why so many will die. (many with other conditions, some without) That is also why people are catching it and dying from it at this time of the year when, in the northern hemisphere, seasonal flu it too weak to do anything. This is assuming it does not mutate and become more deadly or mix with versions of seasonal flu which again is what flu is very good at. This is part of the natural cycle that repeats about every 40 years and is well understood by science. In a few years time when the population gains immunity from it, it will become part of the new seasonal flu.

i think what most people are trying to point out is the fact that the pharma companies are making big bucks off the back of massive fear driven campaign by the mainstream media. Why ? Why bother going to all this trouble? to frighten wee Mary dropping her kids off at school, or Big Gerry whos wife is pregnant......Why? Why continue adding names to the list of infected people and not remove those who have recovered and are back at work? Why not state that the youngwoman who died had suffered from a previous stroke and had Lymes disease? my best wishes go out to her family.
There has to be method in there madness, and it is my personal opinion that there are a number of reasons..
PROFIT,
INJECTING FEAR INTO OUR HEARTS AND MINDS,
MASSES OF PEOPLE HANDING OVER THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THEIR HEALTH,
COMPULSORY VACCINATIONS,
are but a few...
Yes there is disease that our bodies have no immunity over, but if our systems were working at optimum level i believe there would be no problem with our immune systems producing antibodies. We are being bombarded daily with toxins in our water our food and also at vibrational level with this hype hysteria.


with freedom comes responsibility

[pri01]

How many pigs have died?

[always_rebel]

How many pigs have died?

Unfortunately no pigs' deaths have been reported :cool:

[friendsinthesky]

Youre making me laugh now. Forced vaccines?? Why the fuck would they need to use forced vaccines.

IF THEY REALLY WANTED TO KILL YOU THEY WOULD HAVE MADE THE STRAIN OF FLU STONGER SO IT WOULD KILL YOU OUTRIGHT. NO NEED FOR ANY VACCINE THEN.

Remember, not everything is a conspiracy.

They wont force you to have the vaccine, they need your consent to kill you.

[hey_jude]

qeutey ...I missed the irony of your post ...I thought you were being obtuse - maybe we should all try to use these emotionicons; as the tone can be lost in the word salad :D

always_rebel ...sorry about the duff link ...human error = mine! :o

http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/THE_FOUNDATION/swineflu_09may01.html :)

[hey_jude]

off topic...

speaking of pigs ...a friend of mine told me an alarming story the other day ...she was once working in a large butchers shop, 3 apprentice were being trained when she had an urgent message to relay to the head butcher ...he was demonstrating the various cutting techniques and pulling off what were obviously the pigs tumours! :eek:
she waited patiently for him to allow her to interject but he went on to explain that the 'rules' were 2 tumours = human consumption any more than 2 tumours = pet food :eek:

:eek: :eek:

[wildhorse]

OMFG :eek: ^

[always_rebel]

off topic...

speaking of pigs ...a friend of mine told me an alarming story the other day ...she was once working in a large butchers shop, 3 apprentice were being trained when she had an urgent message to relay to the head butcher ...he was demonstrating the various cutting techniques and pulling off what were obviously the pigs tumours! :eek:
she waited patiently for him to allow her to interject but he went on to explain that the 'rules' were 2 tumours = human consumption any more than 2 tumours = pet food :eek:

:eek: :eek:

aaaaaaaarghhhhhhhhhhhhhh! :eek:

[friendsinthesky]

cue the mass press hysteria.

So what's the hype, any mass media hysteria?

[hey_jude]

Personally I don't think there is a mass hysteria ...that is what the press are trying to do and it just ain't happening.

They forget when they tried it last time it failed and the time before that too.

People on here have suggested that if TPTB wanted to kill us all it would be easy ...just up the doseage of shite and watch them drop like flies.

Well, I think something else is at play here, 'the collective' is becoming resistant to all their ills and there is nothing they can do about it. :)