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davelove
28-07-2007, 09:36 PM
Does anyone know the story? where the 3 kids in portugal had a visitation from some lady (being christian, they called her mary) and she gave them 3 messages to give to the world.

it was reported at the time that 100.000 people witnessed the sun
"dancing" in the sky at those visitations

the first two messages were annonced i seems, but the other one was confined to the vatican vaults, wher it remained until recently.

I have just read it

and i have two questions
the oficial release describes the death of the holy father (the pope)
if it were really a case of the death of the pope
the why on earth did the children run away terrified????
the death of a poe would'nt make children react in
a hysterical way. (they left the scene of the visitation in terror)
and secondly
if it were so trivial a matter (sorry pope)
then why did 4 popes in succession return the secret to the vatican vaults
refusing to make it know to the public??

not in the public interest we were told.

it seems to me to be a lot more than a pope dying contained in that third message. enough to terrify 3 young children, and to be held secret for so long

they wouldn't be lying in the vatican??...would they??

cruise4
28-07-2007, 10:34 PM
There's a video about this somewhere. Unfortunately I've forgotten where I saw it. If anyone has the info... please post it. I also vaguely remember this thing was taken apart by the military, so must have been important. There again I could have my wires crossed.

hagbard_celine
30-07-2007, 04:01 PM
they wouldn't be lying in the vatican??...would they??


Of course not! :p I'm sure of we see Jesus descending down from a cloud then it's the real thing, not Project Bluebeam!:D

There's a lot of speculation over the secret of Fatima. Bernadette was given secrets by the Lady of Lourdes too which she supposedly took to her grave. I was reading in a book that there's a fear in the Vatican of the demise of Chritianity by 2015. I don't think there are any limits on what they will go to to preserve their cushy jobs! Keep your eyes on the clouds! ;)

sodi
23-01-2010, 01:49 AM
what where the first two secrets ?

infinite tea
21-09-2010, 01:57 PM
Father Charles Fiore, in a taped interview, made the following remarks with regard to Cardinal Ratzinger's various statements about the Third Secret: "We have two different Cardinal Ratzingers; we have two different messages. But Malachi [Martin] was consistent all the way through; he believed that the Third Secret of Fatima had to do [...] with the internal problems of the Catholic Church."[28] On a syndicated radio broadcast, Father Malachi Martin was asked the following question by a caller: "I had a Jesuit priest tell me more of the Third Secret of Fatima years ago, in Perth. He said, among other things, the last pope would be under control of Satan... Any comment on that?" Fr. Martin responded, "Yes, it sounds as if they were reading, or being told, the text of the Third Secret. But it's sufficiently vague to make one hesitate— it sounds like it."[27] In a taped interview with Bernard Janzen, Fr. Martin was asked the following question: "Who are the people who are working so hard to suppress Fatima?" Fr. Martin responded, "A bunch, a whole bunch, of Catholic prelates in Rome, who belong to Satan. They're servants of Satan. And the servants of Satan outside the Church, in various organizations; they want to destroy the Catholicism of the Church, and keep it as a stabilizing factor in human affairs. It's an alliance. A dirty alliance, a filthy alliance, but a very good alliance."[44] In the same interview, Fr. Martin also said with respect to Lucia that, "They've (The Vatican) published forged letters in her name; they've made her say things she didn't want to say. They put statements on her lips she never made."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Secrets_of_Fátima

The pope's under the control of satan - makes sense to me.

I was brought up a Catholic, I always loved the teachings of Jesus and grew to hate the hypocrisy of the church - they give God a bad name.

chip1
21-09-2010, 02:10 PM
"The devil has succeeded in bringing in evil (to the Church) under the guise of good and the blind are beginning to lead others."

This has been going on heavily since 1960...The Third Secret is a grave warning of apostasy within the Catholic Faith and a serious indictment of those in the Church hierarchy who have promoted dissent and outright heresy..."It is sad that so many people let themselves be dominated by the diabolical wave sweeping over the world! And they are blinded to the point where they are incapable of seeing error! The saddest part of all, is that so many priests, religious and bishops are swept away in the confusion...

The pastors of the Church will fail gravely in the duties of their office. Through their fault, consecrated souls and the Faithful in great number will let themselves be seduced by pernicious errors spread everywhere.

The last pope will suffer for this...He will be the last to be judged by God as he also walks through the valley of death...Looking upon all that he has done and what the Church has done to the Followers of Christ...

Not a good day for the Church...

ladybird
21-09-2010, 02:13 PM
WINDSWEPT HOUSE by Malachi Brendan Martin Ph.D.


In Windswept House, Martin was quite explicit about the conditions in the Vatican,
opening the novel with the above-mentioned satanic ritual.
In it, Satan was formally enthroned in the Vatican in the Chapel of St. Paul
(by all reports a dark and appropriately spooky place).
The ceremony was coordinated via telephone with another simultaneous rite in South Carolina.

http://www.tldm.org/news/martin.htm

chrysoprase
21-09-2010, 02:19 PM
Here is a copy of a post that I made last year regarding the Third Secret of Fatima which includes an interview with Father Malachi Martin on Coast to Coast where he talks about Satanic control in the Vatican:

Vatican Prepares for Extraterrestial Disclosure (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058412670&postcount=39)

(in regards to the Kathleen Keating interview - I think that she misinterpreted the Secret in the same fashion that I did).

About 1997 or 1998 I read what was said to be the true Third Secret of Fatima. I even printed it out but cannot find it and it is nowhere to be found on the internet now either. Their are "official" websited purporting to have the true third secret. One of these websites even says that what the Vatican says is the true secret is not and has a link to what is the real secret.

But this secret says the opposite of what I saw. This secret says to look for signs in the sky and you will know the time has come.


Here is another post that has a video about the children and the pilgrimage:

The Third Secret of Fatima (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058290104&postcount=191)


I do think that it is possible that too many people know about this now that the Vatican has decided another approach. Maybe not. I also thought that this was the true purpose of the Large Hadron Collider - to project various pictures all over the world simultaneously (according to religion/beliefs) in order to bring this about.


Quoting another post that has an interview with an LHC scientist:

In regards to the purpose of the LHC, there was an interview on "60 Minutes" with one of the LHC's scientists, Bob Stanek in 2008.

Steve Kroft asked Stanek about the cost (at that time $8 billion) and was it worth it?

I think Stanek was a bit offended by the question. And his answer is strange:


"if we can understand how to take light that bounces off of me and you into that camera and take that signal and put it into mom and pop's living room... Now imagine in 10 or 20 years, we will be able to take, instead of our photons, me and you and put them in mom and pop's living room? So, you tell me is that worth it?"


Kroft then asks "transport people?" and Stanek says "you tell me, is it worth $8 billion"?


I have no idea where Stanek is coming from or going with that answer. I was already suspicious of the true purpose of the LHC - but this only raised more questions for me.


Here is the 2 minute clip of that interview:

http://www.fancast.com/tv/60-Minutes...7d55faf9778e9b (http://www.fancast.com/tv/60-Minutes...7d55faf9778e9b)

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1059092317&postcount=23

themime
21-09-2010, 02:21 PM
1972 seems to be the key year in the story of Rome's shift towards the darkness.

Also happens to be the year I was born. Oh what fun.

chrysoprase
21-09-2010, 02:29 PM
1972 seems to be the key year in the story of Rome's shift towards the darkness.


1972 is the year that some think the Pope was replaced with an imposter:

http://www.tldm.org/news3/decept4.gif

Imposter Pope? (http://www.tldm.org/news3/impostor.htm)

By the way, I think the above website is the same one that has a link to what it says is the true Third Secret. But I think it is not the true one. Maybe an example of mixing truth with lies in order to deceive?

chip1
21-09-2010, 02:30 PM
Well they might be worshiping Satan and doing his rituals and this will all be in vain for he will not help them in the least...For Satan has left this earth...5 Feb 2009 he was trapped and taken from here...

I know people will dismiss this because of the fear within them about this...For the Christians with Faith believe this...The Comfort of this message is from your Father...Only his Followers remain and this is the Fear of the World...Fear Not for I am with you Always...

Just watch and see the Power of God...For the time has come...

themime
21-09-2010, 02:33 PM
Then chip it would seem that man far excels satan in his ability to defile. The student has finally become the master.

Fill your heart with Christ and nothing can touch your soul.

:)

chrysoprase
21-09-2010, 02:38 PM
what where the first two secrets ?


First secret
The first secret was a vision of Hell:

Our Lady showed us a great sea of fire which seemed to be under the earth. Plunged in this fire were demons and souls in human form, like transparent burning embers, all blackened or burnished bronze, floating about in the conflagration, now raised into the air by the flames that issued from within themselves together with great clouds of smoke, now falling back on every side like sparks in a huge fire, without weight or equilibrium, and amid shrieks and groans of pain and despair, which horrified us and made us tremble with fear. The demons could be distinguished by their terrifying and repulsive likeness to frightful and unknown animals, all black and transparent. This vision lasted but an instant. How can we ever be grateful enough to our kind heavenly Mother, who had already prepared us by promising, in the first Apparition, to take us to heaven. Otherwise, I think we would have died of fear and terror.[5]
[edit] Second secret
The second secret is a statement that World War I would end and goes on to predict another war, World War II during the reign of a Pope Pius XI, should men continue offending God and should Russia not convert.[citation needed] The second half requests that Russia be consecrated to the Immaculate Heart:

You have seen hell where the souls of poor sinners go. To save them, God wishes to establish in the world devotion to my Immaculate Heart. If what I say to you is done, many souls will be saved and there will be peace. The war is going to end: but if people do not cease offending God, a worse one will break out during the Pontificate of Pius XI. When you see a night illumined by an unknown light*, know that this is the great sign given you by God that he is about to punish the world for its crimes, by means of war, famine, and persecutions of the Church and of the Holy Father. To prevent this, I shall come to ask for the consecration of Russia to my Immaculate Heart, and the Communion of reparation on the First Saturdays. If my requests are heeded, Russia will be converted, and there will be peace; if not, she will spread her errors throughout the world, causing wars and persecutions of the Church. The good will be martyred; the Holy Father will have much to suffer; various nations will be annihilated. In the end, my Immaculate Heart will triumph. The Holy Father will consecrate Russia to me, and she shall be converted, and a period of peace will be granted to the world.[6]
This secret's controversy is second only to the supposed final secret of Fátima, as it seemingly predicts both the all-encompassing World War II, the radical Anti-theistic ideology of the Soviet Union; the proxy wars and limited direct confrontations that would be initiated between the Western Democracies and the Soviet Bloc.

Wikipedia - Three Secrets of Fatima (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Secrets_of_F%C3%A1tima#First_secret)




Vatican website (http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20000626_message-fatima_en.html)

ladybird
21-09-2010, 02:40 PM
[COLOR="Red"][B]Well they might be worshiping Satan and doing his rituals and this will all be in vain for he will not help them in the least...For Satan has left this earth...5 Feb 2009 he was trapped and taken from here...

How do you know this, chip1?
Evidence shows at least his agenda is still making good progress
and his adepts are getting increasingly vicious, even on this forum.

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chip1
21-09-2010, 02:43 PM
Then chip it would seem that man far excels satan in his ability to defile. The student has finally become the master.

Fill your heart with Christ and nothing can touch your soul.

:)

Of Coarse satan can not force his will upon you...Men Can...In all the stories about satan he never once forced anything...Men decided to accept him or to deny him...Then they follow and carry out his deceptions...By Force in the past now as Good just as the Fatima Foresaw...satan I can deny and walk away with my life unharmed...

infinite tea
21-09-2010, 02:43 PM
How do you know this, chip1?
Evidence shows at least his agenda is still making good progress
and his adepts are getting increasingly vicious, even on this forum.

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They're fighting a losing battle...the truth will out :-)

ladybird
21-09-2010, 02:45 PM
They're fighting a losing battle...the truth will out :-)


I know :D

I am part of it and they try to make me a victim of their hate and lies daily.

;)

chip1
21-09-2010, 03:00 PM
Everyone is looking for an anti Christ...They walk all over this world...Fallen Angels in the robes of men...Not in cloth but in skin...Covered by the Flesh of our Father looking good in the dark...Doing evil under the cover of light...

Revelations tells you that satan will be carried away...This has to be done before all is revealed...satan is gone just as foretold...Now only the followers remain...The Followers of Christ and the Followers of Lucifer...All in the Temple of Men...Now the Sorting of the Fruit from the Weeds is all that remains...

One will walk in the Light One will be replanted in the ground from which they came...The Sower and the Seed...

This should be known to all but as foretold by the Fatima you have been led astray by the blind...The one's that seek the power of God not his Love...

How do I know this...My Father tells me this...I witnessed the capture of satan which I know no one believes this but I must tell this...

The Bible tells you about the First Witness for what ever reason I was chosen for this...Again something I know people do not believe because of the darkness poured to cover this...

The Words of Comfort from my Father...Fear not for I am with you always...

How do you catch a Dark Spirit...With a Temple of Gold...A Body of Pureness...He entered a Temple he could not escape from...

heuer
21-09-2010, 03:11 PM
The first secret scares me.

chip1
21-09-2010, 03:17 PM
Our Lady showed us a great sea of fire which seemed to be under the earth. Plunged in this fire were demons and souls in human form, like transparent burning embers, all blackened or burnished bronze, floating about in the conflagration, now raised into the air by the flames that issued from within themselves together with great clouds of smoke, now falling back on every side like sparks in a huge fire, without weight or equilibrium, and amid shrieks and groans of pain and despair, which horrified us and made us tremble with fear. The demons could be distinguished by their terrifying and repulsive likeness to frightful and unknown animals, all black and transparent. This vision lasted but an instant. How can we ever be grateful enough to our kind heavenly Mother, who had already prepared us by promising, in the first Apparition, to take us to heaven. Otherwise, I think we would have died of fear and terror.[5]

It is not under the Earth they walk upon the Earth...They as weeds have flourished now they must wilt back into the deep...The Dark Spirits of the Fallen taken on the shapes and images of our Father...Men of Darkness...Wolves in the Cloth of Sheep...I fear these men of deception not God...

chip1
21-09-2010, 03:30 PM
Text of Second Part of Secret

To save them [poor sinners who are on the road to hell], God wishes to establish in the world devotion to My Immaculate Heart. If what I say to you is done, many souls will be saved and there will be peace. The war is going to end; but if people do not cease offending God, a worse war will break out during the reign of Pius XI. When you see a night illumined by an unknown light, know that this is the great sign given you by God that He is about to punish the world for its crimes, by means of war, famine, and persecutions against the Church and against the Holy Father.

To prevent this, I shall come to ask for the consecration of Russia to My Immaculate Heart, and the Communion of Reparation on the First Saturdays. If My requests are heeded, Russia will be converted and there will be peace; if not, she will spread her errors throughout the world, causing wars and persecutions against the Church. The good will be martyred, the Holy Father will have much to suffer, various nations will be annihilated.1

This has not been done...The Church Failed in it's attempt to convert Russia...For One it did not release the Truth about the Fatima...It was to be released in 1960 and the Pope refused...The Darkness within the Church Veiled this Truth...Even now they hide the Truth...All Secrets will be Revealed...Any Nation that Refuses Christ will be Annihilated...One Nation Under God...One World Under the Same God...This is the Will of God and His Will, will be Done...The Good Will be Saved...The Evil will Wilt...Just as the Fig Tree that Denied Christ from it's Fruit...

Can you see how these Parables are Playing Out Now and Are Clear...

heuer
21-09-2010, 03:39 PM
When you see a night illumined by an unknown light, know that this is the great sign given you by God that He is about to punish the world for its crimes, by means of war, famine, and persecutions against the Church and against the Holy Father.

So thousands of innocent people suffered because God got angry?

I can't understand religion. Isn't God meant to love us all? Why make the world suffer, why not wait for them to be judged and sent underground or in the sky?

The common man may indulge in a Satanic aspects of life, but what did he do wrong? The churches are corrupt, he notes that and doesn't believe in a God (any normal person that doesn't have knowledge about TPTB would draw to the same conclusion). There is little evidence to someone who isn't aware of the Satanic aspect of the world that a God even exists.

It is no wonder people turn against forms of religion. It is only to be expected.

Why should they be punished? They have in reality done nothing wrong because they were never aware in the first place of the deception that is occurring.

Looking at the state of the world, Hell is going to be pretty packed out.

It seems that in the world we live in the Satanists are the ones that do not suffer, but indeed the common man does. What happens after death is beyond me, so I can't really comment on that.

ladybird
21-09-2010, 03:46 PM
Now there is evidence, that the 3rd secret, which was NOT yet completely reveiled by the Vatican,
was an explicit WARNING about a comeback of COMMUNISM.

Unfortunately this text is only available in German up to now,
but I am sure many of you are able to read and understand it.


http://info.kopp-verlag.de/hintergruende/europa/leo-degard/das-dritte-geheimnis-von-fatima-rekonstruiert.html


I will gladly help with translation and/or explaining special parts which might be unclear to you.

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chip1
21-09-2010, 04:30 PM
So thousands of innocent people suffered because God got angry?

I can't understand religion. Isn't God meant to love us all? Why make the world suffer, why not wait for them to be judged and sent underground or in the sky?

The common man may indulge in a Satanic aspects of life, but what did he do wrong? The churches are corrupt, he notes that and doesn't believe in a God (any normal person that doesn't have knowledge about TPTB would draw to the same conclusion). There is little evidence to someone who isn't aware of the Satanic aspect of the world that a God even exists.

It is no wonder people turn against forms of religion. It is only to be expected.

Why should they be punished? They have in reality done nothing wrong because they were never aware in the first place of the deception that is occurring.

Looking at the state of the world, Hell is going to be pretty packed out.

It seems that in the world we live in the Satanists are the ones that do not suffer, but indeed the common man does. What happens after death is beyond me, so I can't really comment on that.

A Good Man will be saved...A Wicked Man shall Whiter...Now let's look at this the way you should...Good Man/Angel...Bad Man/Angel... Two Followers...Who knows this other than God...Which is Good and Which is Bad...God and Only the Man...

God is not mad at neither...Both Suffer both Grow...Both Have a Purpose...The Greater Purpose of Man...Men have been taught that there is just Two Places to Go...Heaven or Hell...Some have a Third...The In Between...Nothing to Rule in Hell...Can't Rule in Heaven...The Only Rule is Here...The Rule of One Man...The King of the Mountain...The True Zion...Satan turned this into a Dark Mountain...Christ Revealed Something he Revealed Two Things...He Revealed God as a Father you Had a God Here...Satan...He Also Revealed Paradise...Always Hidden unknown to the World of Satan...The Third Earth the Third from the Throne of Everything that is...The Place of Enoch...The Place of Noah...From where Abraham was Created not Formed...A Good Form the Grass of this World that Feeds All...Just as the Fatima Foretold Angels in Different Shapes and Forms...

3x3 the Power of Three...1/3 of Heaven...1/3 of Hell...1/3 of Paradise All Reside Here...Satan has tried to destroy this image...His followers have kept this secret...Satan Failed as his followers are now...Religion was Created to Pull the Good from the Wicked...If you can't beat them join them...From Within...They became the Power of the Good not the Love...

As now people believe my Father is Evil because of what has been hidden...Religion now as is with all the Powers that be are being shown for what they are truly...Flocked together...The Good will Witness the Destruction of the Wicked...For Your Greater Purpose...To Become Like Us...Creators of the First Form...Creation not Man...Man is Chosen for this Purpose...All Members of Father's Family Suffer for this they Give their Life...Not in the Form you have been taught...

Now Religion is being used to catch the Wicked at their own Game...The True Deception...The Trapping of Deception and All His Followers...The Trap was Set in the Beginning...He was on the Run when Christ Appeared...He couldn't deceive him then...So he Ran and Hid because he knew his time was short...The Capture of Satan as Foretold by Revelations is Past...The Capture of the Wicked is Happening Now...Their Time is Short and Sad...

The Good will See Paradise for the First Time...I can tell you this there will be NO NEED FOR RELIGION...A True Paradise my Friend...Free Serving No One...Helping Others is not a Service it is a Deed of Good Fortune...

Father is Clear only Men Deceive...

pound
21-09-2010, 04:49 PM
The whole Fatima encounter reminds me of the incident in Nuremberg, Germany that occurred in 1561. Both Fatima and the Nuremberg occurence were witnessed by hundreds of people, and both involved 'miraculous' kinds of aerial phenomena in broad daylight:

http://www.budoniambiente.org/053/11.jpg

At sunrise on the 14th April 1561, the citizens of Nuremberg beheld "A very frightful spectacle." The sky appeared to fill with cylindrical objects from which red, black, orange and blue white disks and globes emerged. Crosses and tubes resembling cannon barrels also appeared whereupon the objects promptly "began to fight one another." This event is depicted in a famous 16th century woodcut by Hans Glaser.


April 1561 - A War In Heaven?

One of the most astounding of documented sightings of aerial phenomena took place in 1561 over Nuremberg, Germany. What was described could only be called a war in the heavens, with a wide variety of craft ranging from spheres to spear-like cylinders to crosses. The sky was apparently filled with the machines, clashing in battle. Comets and such were well identified and charted in this period, so it is highly unlikely that what the people witnessed was merely a celestial phenomenon like a 'meteor shower', as some debunkers suggest. Rather, what is described are physical objects of unique detail and shapes, in 'battle' for over an hour. The battle was such that a winner was perceived as well. Spheroid UFOs were seen emerging from cylindrical 'motherships'. At the conclusion of the battle, it seems a magnificent, black, spear-like super-ship of some kind came upon the scene...

It began at dawn, as dozens, if not hundreds, of crosses, globes and tubes fought each other above the city. It ended an hour later, when "the globes in the small and large rods flew into the sun," and several of the other objects crashed to earth and vanished in a thick cloud of smoke.

http://www.rense.com/general50/tm_apr.htm

ladybird
21-09-2010, 04:51 PM
Great comment, pound. Thanks for reminding me!
But what do you think about the third secret?

pound
21-09-2010, 05:06 PM
Great comment, pound. Thanks for reminding me!
But what do you think about the third secret?

I'm a bit skeptical in regards to the issuance of the insights that were released by the Vatican not to long ago. For all we know Vatican officials could of edited entirely or omitted completely parts of the secret. From what I could find on the net this revelation was supposedly the 'third secret'. Not quite as intense as I thought it would be to be honest:

Text of The Third Secret of Fatima

COMPLETE TRANSLATION OF ORIGINAL TEXT:

VATICAN CITY, JUN 26, 2000 (VIS) - Given below is the complete translation of the original Portuguese text of the third part of the secret of Fatima, revealed to the three shepherd children at Cova da Iria-Fatima on July 13, 1917, and committed to paper by Sr. Lucia on January 3, 1944:

"I write in obedience to you, my God, who command me to do so through his Excellency the Bishop of Leiria and through your Most Holy Mother and mine.

"After the two parts which I have already explained, at the left of Our Lady and a little above, we saw an Angel with a flaming sword in his left hand; flashing, it gave out flames that looked as though they would set the world on fire; but they died out in contact with the splendor that Our Lady radiated towards him from her right hand: pointing to the earth with his right hand, the Angel cried out in a loud voice: 'Penance, Penance, Penance!'. And we saw in an immense light that is God: 'something similar to how people appear in a mirror when they pass in front of it' a Bishop dressed in White 'we had the impression that it was the Holy Father'. Other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious going up a steep mountain, at the top of which there was a big Cross of rough-hewn trunks as of a cork-tree with the bark; before reaching there the Holy Father passed through a big city half in ruins and half trembling with halting step, afflicted with pain and sorrow, he prayed for the souls of the corpses he met on his way; having reached the top of the mountain, on his knees at the foot of the big Cross he was killed by a group of soldiers who fired bullets and arrows at him, and in the same way there died one after another the other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious, and various lay people of different ranks and positions. Beneath the two arms of the Cross there were two Angels each with a crystal aspersorium in his hand, in which they gathered up the blood of the Martyrs and with it sprinkled the souls that were making their way to God."

.../THIRD SECRET/... VIS 000626 (380)



http://www.marianland.com/thirdsecret-text.html

ladybird
21-09-2010, 05:12 PM
I'm a bit skeptical in regards to the issuance of the insights that were released by the Vatican not to long ago. For all we know Vatican officials could of edited entirely or omitted completely parts of the secret. From what I could find on the net this revelation was supposedly the 'third secret'. Not quite as intense as I thought it would be to be honest:



http://www.marianland.com/thirdsecret-text.html


That is the official version, which is of course at least abbreviated, not to say mutilated,
as commented in previous posts.

I would like to discuss my latest post # 23.

pound
21-09-2010, 05:24 PM
Now there is evidence, that the 3rd secret, which was NOT yet completely reveiled by the Vatican,
was an explicit WARNING about a comeback of COMMUNISM.

Unfortunately this text is only available in German up to now,
but I am sure many of you are able to read and understand it.


http://info.kopp-verlag.de/hintergruende/europa/leo-degard/das-dritte-geheimnis-von-fatima-rekonstruiert.html


I will gladly help with translation and/or explaining special parts which might be unclear to you.

.

Oh okay. Yeah a translation would be awesome. :)

Kind of ironic that an institution that provided safe haven for fascist Nazi's is now trying to warn us about the onslaught of 'communism'.

ladybird
21-09-2010, 05:44 PM
Oh okay. Yeah a translation would be awesome. :)

Kind of ironic that an institution that provided safe haven for fascist Nazi's is now trying to warn us about the onslaught of 'communism'.


It is just the other way round :)
The vatican does NOT publish the truth about the third secret.
That means, if it IS about communism, the vatican does not want us to know
about the comeback of communism, which is most obvious already, thus supporting it!

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