Mahmoud won the presidential race with 62% votes

[sloughi]

maneuverhttp://www1.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=8803210416
Ahmadinejad Wins Iran's Presidential Election

TEHRNA (FNA)- The Iranian nation endorsed Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's anti-corruption agenda and elected the Principlist candidate for a second 4-year term in office.

According to Iran's election headquarters, from a total number of 39,165,191 ballots cast in Iran's 10th presidential election on Friday June 12, Ahmadinejad won 24,527,516 votes, which accounts for 62.63% of the votes, while his main rival Mir-Hossein Mousavi could secure only 13,216,411 (33.75%) of the votes.

Principlist politician and former chief commander of the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) Mohsen Rezai Mir-Qaed stood third with 678,240 votes (1.73%) and former Iranian Parliament Speaker Mehdi Karroubi came last with 333,635 votes (0.85%) cast in his favor.

[opulentview]

I don't know any Iranians but I think they're some on the board. Does anyone know if its relatively "easy" to steal an election there?

[jesuitsdidit]

Riot police on motorcycles beat supporters of presidential challenger Mirhossein Mousavi who were protesting on Saturday against Mr Ahmadinejad's disputed victory.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090613/twl-riots-after-mahmoud-ahmadinejad-wins-41f21e0.html


Riots after Mahmoud Ahmadinejad wins Iran election

1 hour 2 mins ago

Thousands of Iranians have demonstrated after Mahmoud Ahmadinejad won the country's presidential election.

Riot police on motorcycles beat supporters of presidential challenger Mirhossein Mousavi who were protesting on Saturday against Mr Ahmadinejad's disputed victory.

Security forces chased and arrested some of the demonstrators staging a sit-in at Tehran's Vanak Square, one of the capital's busiest intersections.

At least three people were injured in the clash, which broke out after the Interior Ministry announced the hardline incumbent's resounding victory in Friday's vote.

Mr Ahmadinejad took nearly twice as many votes as former Prime Minister Mirhossein Mousavi - upsetting widespread expectations that the race would at least go to a second round.

Mr Mousavi, a moderate, said in a statement: "I personally strongly protest the many obvious violations and I'm warning I will not surrender to this dangerous charade. The result of such performance by some officials will jeopardise the pillars of the Islamic Republic and will establish tyranny."

He said in a separate statement that members of his election headquarters had been beaten "with batons, wooden sticks and electrical rods."

Up to 2,000 Mousavi supporters took part in the sit-in in the middle of the road, chanting: "Mousavi take back our vote! What happened to our vote?"

Hundreds of his backers later gathered in side streets near Vanak, chanting anti-Ahmadinejad slogans and bringing traffic to a standstill. They shouted: "We are Iranians too" and "Mousavi is our president".

Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei urged defeated presidential election candidates on Saturday to avoid provocations and to support the victor, Ahmadinejad.

[guivre]

I don't know any Iranians but I think they're some on the board. Does anyone know if its relatively "easy" to steal an election there?

Does it even matter when they have a "Supreme Leader"? ._.

[rhydra]

Mahmoud won Iranian "election."

Shares in weapons companies go though the roof.

[axomoxa]

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :
This election was a complete fraud..Moussavi had clearly won the support yet Ahmad who controls the interior ministry(vote counters) and the state run media along with the pos supreme leader of iran stole the elections in his favor....my assertion is that is was done to maintain the enemy needed by western powers...as always behind the scene. Unless the protests continue and a real revolution takes place...it is not looking good for the political theatre that is our world. especially since the UN council along with the u.s. has not stepped in...but those bastards will choke iran into starvation...yet when clear signs of fraud and dictartorship behavior against human rights occur...such as the fact moussavi who won is under house arrest!?....not a fucking finger is lifted in a double standard fashion, moving the agenda forward to the end game? this is the biggest news of the year and very few even are aware of how this is leading to a clash that is looking more imenent than ever before....this is coming from a non fear based analysis of the situation.

The truth of this must be known. there is a very slim chance that it could lead to a violent revolution and over throw of the fucking corrupt to the core free mason funded and backed mullahs. no matter what they report in the news....be it know that 60-80 percent of iran would never tolerate the evil that is forced upon them because they might be apathetic like the rest of the spineless world...they are however educated and NON MUSLIM.

[axomoxa]

Protest against fake elections TEHRAN IRAN 13 June 2009 17:45 PM - YouTube


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0MkATcn04M&feature=player_embedded


YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.


Iranians protesting against election results 2009 (3/4) - YouTube

Top Pieces of Evidence that the Iranian Presidential Election Was Stolen

1. It is claimed that Ahmadinejad won the city of Tabriz with 57%. His main opponent, Mir Hossein Mousavi, is an Azeri from Azerbaijan province, of which Tabriz is the capital. Mousavi, according to such polls as exist in Iran and widespread anecdotal evidence, did better in cities and is popular in Azerbaijan. Certainly, his rallies there were very well attended. So for an Azeri urban center to go so heavily for Ahmadinejad just makes no sense. In past elections, Azeris voted disproportionately for even minor presidential candidates who hailed from that province.

2. Ahmadinejad is claimed to have taken Tehran by over 50%. Again, he is not popular in the cities, even, as he claims, in the poor neighborhoods, in part because his policies have produced high inflation and high unemployment. That he should have won Tehran is so unlikely as to raise real questions about these numbers. [Ahmadinejad is widely thought only to have won Tehran in 2005 because the pro-reform groups were discouraged and stayed home rather than voting.)

3. It is claimed that cleric Mehdi Karoubi, the other reformist candidate, received 320,000 votes, and that he did poorly in Iran's western provinces, even losing in Luristan. He is a Lur and is popular in the west, including in Kurdistan. Karoubi received 17 percent of the vote in the first round of presidential elections in 2005. While it is possible that his support has substantially declined since then, it is hard to believe that he would get less than one percent of the vote. Moreover, he should have at least done well in the west, which he did not.

4. Mohsen Rezaie, who polled very badly and seems not to have been at all popular, is alleged to have received 670,000 votes, twice as much as Karoubi.

5. Ahmadinejad's numbers were fairly standard across Iran's provinces. In past elections there have been substantial ethnic and provincial variations.

6. The Electoral Commission is supposed to wait three days before certifying the results of the election, at which point they are to inform Khamenei of the results, and he signs off on the process. The three-day delay is intended to allow charges of irregularities to be adjudicated. In this case, Khamenei immediately approved the alleged results.

I am aware of the difficulties of catching history on the run. Some explanation may emerge for Ahmadinejad's upset that does not involve fraud. For instance, it is possible that he has gotten the credit for spreading around a lot of oil money in the form of favors to his constituencies, but somehow managed to escape the blame for the resultant high inflation.

But just as a first reaction, this post-election situation looks to me like a crime scene. And here is how I would reconstruct the crime.

As the real numbers started coming into the Interior Ministry late on Friday, it became clear that Mousavi was winning. Mousavi's spokesman abroad, filmmaker Mohsen Makhbalbaf, alleges that the ministry even contacted Mousavi's camp and said it would begin preparing the population for this victory.

The ministry must have informed Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, who has had a feud with Mousavi for over 30 years, who found this outcome unsupportable. And, apparently, he and other top leaders had been so confident of an Ahmadinejad win that they had made no contingency plans for what to do if he looked as though he would lose.

They therefore sent blanket instructions to the Electoral Commission to falsify the vote counts.

This clumsy cover-up then produced the incredible result of an Ahmadinejad landlside in Tabriz and Isfahan and Tehran.

The reason for which Rezaie and Karoubi had to be assigned such implausibly low totals was to make sure Ahmadinejad got over 51% of the vote and thus avoid a run-off between him and Mousavi next Friday, which would have given the Mousavi camp a chance to attempt to rally the public and forestall further tampering with the election.

This scenario accounts for all known anomalies and is consistent with what we know of the major players.

More in my column, just out, in Salon.com: "Ahmadinejad reelected under cloud of fraud," where I argue that the outcome of the presidential elections does not and should not affect Obama's policies toward that country-- they are the right policies and should be followed through on regardless.

The public demonstrations against the result don't appear to be that big. In the past decade, reformers have always backed down in Iran when challenged by hardliners, in part because no one wants to relive the horrible Great Terror of the 1980s after the revolution, when faction-fighting produced blood in the streets. Mousavi is still from that generation.

My own guess is that you have to get a leadership born after the revolution, who does not remember it and its sanguinary aftermath, before you get people willing to push back hard against the rightwingers.

So, there are protests against an allegedly stolen election. The Basij paramilitary thugs and the Iranian Revolutionary Guards will break some heads. Unless there has been a sea change in Iran, the theocrats may well get away with this soft coup for the moment. But the regime's legitimacy will take a critical hit, and its ultimate demise may have been hastened, over the next decade or two.

What I've said is full of speculation and informed guesses. I'd be glad to be proved wrong on several of these points. Maybe I will be.

PS: Here's the data:

So here is what Interior Minister Sadeq Mahsouli said Saturday about the outcome of the Iranian presidential elections:

"Of 39,165,191 votes counted (85 percent), Mahmoud Ahmadinejad won the election with 24,527,516 (62.63 percent)."

He announced that Mir-Hossein Mousavi came in second with 13,216,411 votes (33.75 percent).

Mohsen Rezaei got 678,240 votes (1.73 percent)

Mehdi Karroubi with 333,635 votes (0.85 percent).

He put the void ballots at 409,389 (1.04 percent).
source:
http://www.juancole.com/2009/06/stealing-iranian-election.html


A DESCENT ARTICLE ON NY TIMES...still full of lies.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/14/world/middleeast/14iran.html?hp



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[rhydra]

Look at Mahmoud's peaceful riot cops fighting bravely against those evil civilians. :mad:

[rydeon]

Riot police on motorcycles beat supporters of presidential challenger Mirhossein Mousavi who were protesting on Saturday against Mr Ahmadinejad's disputed victory.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090613/twl-riots-after-mahmoud-ahmadinejad-wins-41f21e0.html


Riots after Mahmoud Ahmadinejad wins Iran election

1 hour 2 mins ago

Thousands of Iranians have demonstrated after Mahmoud Ahmadinejad won the country's presidential election.

Riot police on motorcycles beat supporters of presidential challenger Mirhossein Mousavi who were protesting on Saturday against Mr Ahmadinejad's disputed victory.

Security forces chased and arrested some of the demonstrators staging a sit-in at Tehran's Vanak Square, one of the capital's busiest intersections.

At least three people were injured in the clash, which broke out after the Interior Ministry announced the hardline incumbent's resounding victory in Friday's vote.

Mr Ahmadinejad took nearly twice as many votes as former Prime Minister Mirhossein Mousavi - upsetting widespread expectations that the race would at least go to a second round.

Mr Mousavi, a moderate, said in a statement: "I personally strongly protest the many obvious violations and I'm warning I will not surrender to this dangerous charade. The result of such performance by some officials will jeopardise the pillars of the Islamic Republic and will establish tyranny."

He said in a separate statement that members of his election headquarters had been beaten "with batons, wooden sticks and electrical rods."

Up to 2,000 Mousavi supporters took part in the sit-in in the middle of the road, chanting: "Mousavi take back our vote! What happened to our vote?"

Hundreds of his backers later gathered in side streets near Vanak, chanting anti-Ahmadinejad slogans and bringing traffic to a standstill. They shouted: "We are Iranians too" and "Mousavi is our president".

Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei urged defeated presidential election candidates on Saturday to avoid provocations and to support the victor, Ahmadinejad.

Well I expect this from the vocal majority, yet voting minority. As soon as they lose, all the toys and rattles come flying out of the pram.

Look the right-wing nationalist won, cut him some slack and deal with it. Whining isn't going to change anything in the past.
Move forward and see what the future holds.

I will say that at least they get a good turn-out in Iran, unlike a certain island off the coast of France ;)

[onourwayto2012]

Election fraud? Gosh we're sure lucky we don't have that over here in the USA!

[michael christopher]

This is very disappointing.

[axomoxa]

Well I expect this from the vocal majority, yet voting minority. As soon as they lose, all the toys and rattles come flying out of the pram.

Look the right-wing nationalist won, cut him some slack and deal with it. Whining isn't going to change anything in the past.
Move forward and see what the future holds.

I will say that at least they get a good turn-out in Iran, unlike a certain island off the coast of France ;)


They were not the minority in this one. they voted ONLY to vote ahmad out of office...and get the obomba type in...were talking about a 85% voter turnout by people who never vote in the corrupt regime...yet this time they actually did and this happens.

if you had the SLIGHTEST clue as the implications of this nwo minion as yet another illegitame "leader" or if you were under the phyisical and psychological oppression he repressents then your last statement amounts to a pile of heaping dong with brain dead mentality. these people have been apathetic, just like their western counter parts, for 30 years. yet for a second time they are trying to stand up to the ruleing establishment and barely any one is supporting them...anywhere. the struggle is dismissed for most people on earth, awake or not, lack the courage to qualify as a real human being.

as it stands now, ahmad is calling it "passion like the end of a soccer match"....meanwhile the west is barely reporting the obvious fraud and the continuous protests...and already gearing up to deal with ahmad...instead of using their only viable chance and for once an intervention that would be excusable in this case. why , because they need their installed enemies.

the only other scenario that could be possible here is that ahmad is a minion gone stray....therefore just like sadam they will destroy him...killing another million civilians in the name of "democracy" when infact the time to act civilized is NOW. there will be persian blood on the worlds apathetic hands...once again.

[bobhodge]

i know the average IQ on here is very low, but please try to understand that the civil unrest in iran has been caused directly by CIA funded groups. they are trying to sway the public to support a regime change in Iran. this is pretty obvious, but i will cut you retards some slack.

[red_ram]

I think it was William Hague who said this week that any matters concerning voting fraud were for Iran to deal with itself.

Well, thank you for stating the frigging obvious. Who else's business is it, exactly?

[axomoxa]

@ bob: lmao and you think you know wtf your talking about ^

just because ahmad stands up to zionist does not mean he in any means on our side....thats like saying osama bin laden who is dead, was a good guy. or sadam was good cause he switched to the euro etc etc....these are installed minions...nothing more or less. just because they have a anti nwo rehtoric means shit....it only stands as the flame the west must put out...their own fire.

I know first hand that this protesting is pure anger erupted in the youth that voted for the moderate, JUST TO TAKE AHMAD OUT, and perhaps do a slow reform of the regime. if the cia or any agency with their limitless powers wanted anything but a real regime change...you would better believe it would have happened by now. THEY easily did it back in 1953. again, it would be retarted for the elite to lose their favorite enemy as it stands now. mousavi is another obomba, but im lead to believe he was to win in the script of nwo...yet the other power hungry minion and his handlers wanted to keep the power with their finger on the coming nuke.

[axomoxa]

messing with it is one thing...how bout some support? there is no so called alt media or anywhere giving any support to their protests. NONE ZERO that ive seen. this struggle represents the same as anywhere, yet while the iron is hot....everywhere they are clueless and sitting back on their chair watching it go to waist....just like how they protested for weeks on end in mexico to no avail and very little support last year.

[decim]

I just ate an excellent Sunday dinner, roast beef, yorkies, roast tatties, gravy..now on my second pint, relaxing..

[veritasvoice]

Can't think which playbook Mahmoud is running from...

Ahmadinejad calls for new world order (http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=85972)

[axomoxa]

Can't think which playbook Mahmoud is running from...

Ahmadinejad calls for new world order (http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=85972)

EXACTLY...he is NOTHING but an installed minion witht the SCRIPTED voice and the ROLE of the antagonizer of the west...nothing more or less..

now he has either broken rank, just like sadam but instead ahmad may hold the nuke..... OR looking at the media spin he is part of the plan. EITHERWAY he is bad news for everyone...a stage for ww3...specially those who live directly under it and most are clueless of their complete lack of freedom cept heroin and destructive version of islam.

[axomoxa]

Im giving the latest word from the ground. unlike the media's current news...the second day of protesting has been even more presistant and the momentum is building towards a speech tomoro by the real winner, mousavi, as they are planing atleast a million plus strong march to be heard.

there is all out chaos and gridlock and protests and fires, yet in the persian spirit, they are singing and chanting in order to make it as much as a peacefull revolution. but they realize they might need access to guns so they could fight back, since many students have been brutlized, they feel rightly so to fight back in same terms, since nothing honorable is being met halfway by the current WESTERN established and installed demon.

the danger of the "revolt" is it might be steered as it was the last time 30 years ago, in order to get rid of the monarchy, a pos WESTERN backed muslim extremist took over.. this time it could be socialist as anywhere else leading to a "democracy". yay, iran will be like US and every other shit hole appearing as free. atleast even then due to the lack of solid pillars of power like the west....there is a chance, slowly a progressive republic to form eventually. I will maintain that is possible anywhere or else all hope is lost.

In the risk of saying the same old fucking cliche, a real change can take place. this is the best news for any place anywhere struggling for a true republic....it only helps mankind everywhere if this succeeds. one at a time, no!?

bravo to the courage of man and power and support to mankind to unite and stop giving away their powers, be it thru apathy or complacency or be it thru pure ignorance and conditioning. this could not be a more crucial point and oppurtunity for everyone who actually cares to take part in.

[deany]

he's an interesting character Ahmadinijad that's for sure.

He's either been put together very cleverly as a puppet or he has an astute knowledge of the sickos trying to control this world and is trying to wake other nations up.

[axomoxa]

he's an interesting character Ahmadinijad that's for sure.

He's either been out together very cleverly as a puppet or he has an astute knowledge of the sickos trying to control this world and is trying to wake other nations up.

the latter is the spin by the so called alt media...who incidently are funded by the same elite....like democracy now who is funded by george soros.
ahmad=sadam, only diffrence is iran is not iraq and the politics are more refined to fool even more of the very few who pay attention.

[guuna]

they need Ahmad-dinner-jacket as their little bogey man to justify still more massive defence expenditure and crank up the fear factor, nuclear terror and the like.

It makes no sense how the 'worlds' number 1 enemy' can still fly into New York and address the UN.

[deany]

they need Ahmad-dinner-jacket as their little bogey man to justify still more massive defence expenditure and crank up the fear factor, nuclear terror and the like.

It makes no sense how the 'worlds' number 1 enemy' can still fly into New York and address the UN.

good point.

I do feel he is an extremely intelligent man, perhaps they thought this trip to NY and his subsequent speech(es) would further ridicule him in the eyes of the American public and give them further reason to overthrow him though?

It could be that he is a spanner in the works.

[gilly]

In wake of mass protests, Iran cuts off cell phones, YouTube, Facebook
Published on 06-14-2009


Source: RawStory


The main mobile telephone network in Iran was cut in the capital Tehran Saturday evening while popular Internet websites Facebook and YouTube also appeared to be blocked, correspondents said.

The communication cuts came after President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad won a landslide re-election victory, sparking rioting in the streets by opposition supporters who claimed the result had been rigged.

The mobile phone network stopped working at 10:00 pm (1730 GMT), just before Ahmadinejad went on television to declare the election a “great victory” and even as baton-wielding police were clashing with protestors in the streets of Tehran, according to witnesses.

Iran has two national networks run by state-owned MCI (Telecommunication Company of Iran) and the private firm Irancell.

Several Iran-based users logging on via different Internet service providers, meanwhile, said they could reach neither Facebook nor YouTube — the two websites used effectively by young supporters of Ahmadinejad’s moderate rival Mir Hossein Mousavi.

Mousavi complained bitterly on Saturday against “vote rigging” in the election, unleashing violent clashes between his supporters and anti-riot police.

Scores of users started posting pictures and videos of the protests on both sites shortly after they broke out in Tehran’s streets.

Iranian authorities banned the popular social networking website Facebook on May 23 reportedly to prevent Mousavi supporters from using it for his presidential campaign prior to Friday’s poll.

Access was restored after a few days.

About 60 percent of Iran’s 70-million population is under 30 years old and the country, which applies strict monitoring of cyber material, has some 20 million web users.

Several pro-Mousavi news websites have also been blocked in the past two days including two popular ones, Aftab News and Shahab News, which are regarded as close to Iran’s top arbitration body, the Expediency Council.

The Council is headed by influential former president and Mousavi-backer, Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, who was the subject of mudslinging in the presidential campaign after Ahmadinejad accused his sons of receiving financial privileges in the past.

[reggievandam]

Iran protesters 'defy ban'

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45923000/jpg/_45923406_-42.jpg

There were outbreaks of violence around Tehran's university on Sunday


By Jon Leyne
BBC News, Tehran


As demonstrations against the Iranian election result continue, the situation in Tehran is becoming unpredictable and potentially explosive.

Throughout Sunday, crowds gathered in a number of areas. Often they were not organised protests.

In traffic jams, car drivers hooted their horns in opposition to the government. Crowds stood on the pavement, chanting and showing v-signs.

In some places, the police were out in force. Some of them were in full riot gear. Others charged into action on the back of motorbikes.

They seem to have been given clear instructions not to open fire. Though occasional gunfire has been heard, mostly police have been wielding truncheons and batons in often brutal fashion.

Stifled aspirations

It is difficult to get any reliable picture of the scale of the protests in Tehran, let alone the whole country.


President Ahmadinejad's almost casual dismissal of their complaints just adds to the anger

But they spread rapidly during the evening. The cheers and chanting echoed even in customarily quiet middle-class neighbourhoods.

Many Iranians came out on to their roofs to shout "down with the dictator".

It has become a challenge not just of an election result, not just to President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, but to the supreme leader, Ayatollah Khamenei himself.

That means it is, in effect, a challenge to the whole basis of the Islamic Republic.

For two years I have watched as young, ambitious Iranians go about their lives with growing frustration.

They feel the system stifles their aspirations. Now they feel that their intelligence and their pride has been insulted by an election result many Iranians believe is blatantly fraudulent.

And President Ahmadinejad's almost casual dismissal of their complaints just adds to the anger.

Without precedent

Make no mistake, President Ahmadinejad still has plenty of supporters.


They turned out in large numbers in the victory rally he held in central Tehran on Sunday afternoon.

He has focused his rhetoric on foreign governments and the international media, blaming them for stirring up the trouble.

There is a danger now that the two sides could come to blows.

And many people will fear that the government will authorise the police to open fire, if the situation slides further out of control.

Yet it is hard to see what political compromise is possible.

Mr Ahmadinejad is defiant, confident in the support of the supreme leader.

The opposition will know that the formal appeal process has minimal chance of success.

It is a situation without precedent in the 30-year history of the Islamic republic, and the outcome is impossible to predict.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8099884.stm

[peterjohnglynn]

Democracy takes different shapes and forms. Iran , the USA , the UK , France have different versions. Some suit our governments , others don't.

Also:

Police stop and search ( ouch) 2,500 children ( including a 7 year old). WRVS Meals on Wheels angel ticketed by zealous traffic warden - and Council REFUSE to overturn until forced to do so by governing body.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[lewi]

How the hell can they get all this camera footage when they can never normally get a camera across the border its seems they only let you see what they want you too see ;)

[orderoutofchaos]

This is all down to the West interfering in Iranian affairs. Mousavi is probably a MI6 agent. They will use it as a excuse for war.

[astrochicken]

How the hell can they get all this camera footage when they can never normally get a camera across the border its seems they only let you see what they want you too see ;)


Anyone say "orange revolution", obama's "change" or tony's "new labour"?

Different shit. Same smell.

[lewi]

I think they are going too reign Iran in before the staged war with North Korea :eek:

[Ian2day]

Its all a show. The solution is for people to say "no more control" and have everyone go out and sit down on the floors in the shopping centres and intersections. Only acts of mass non violent civil disobediance will work. Anything else just plays into tptb hands.

[alternative_answer]

The de-stabalising of Iran probably started a long time ago and this is the upshot of it. Iranians probably think they are getting freedom but plays right into the Wests hands.

[pduffy4]

CIA at it again I expect.

[whitenight639]

I think they are going too reign Iran in before the staged war with North Korea :eek:


well yeh isnt that in the project for new american century? been documented well before 911 there on it.

[whitenight639]

Democracy takes different shapes and forms. Iran , the USA , the UK , France have different versions. Some suit our governments , others don't.

Also:

Police stop and search ( ouch) 2,500 children ( including a 7 year old). WRVS Meals on Wheels angel ticketed by zealous traffic warden - and Council REFUSE to overturn until forced to do so by governing body.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SsXQ0Zg6PQ&feature=channel_page

good rant, we need more youtube rants on this forum, is that you in the vid peterjohn?

[axomoxa]

Another "revolution" has been ignited, self inflamed and of course steered by the powers that conspired it in the first place...by the puppet masters of iran's obomba type candidate of change mousavi. I guess after all that has happened in the last 48, the new softer minion could be him, with the people actually being happy about it.....which is ASTONISHING cause just before the election, people KNEW it was NOTHING more than a vote in a corrupt regime to get rid of ahmad. as of now , the standing dictator aka supreme leader has hinted towards his slow but evident decline of power by allowing a probe into the elections....which means a shift to the other mullah rafsanjani and his cohorts....who are solely deceiving western agent$. the joke is under the turbin it says made in america. how precisely they execute is beyond me. problem cause solution.

because the majority of iran could not have tolerated another 4 years of extremism policies under ahmad...now they can be happy with their new form of mind control....cause after all this protesting, they have thru pure sorcery feel they have won it !!! the kind of change that would lead up to the unification of all created enemies ala nwo if mousavi is wrongly supported by the desperate iranians who see no other solution at this time, who could blame them not I. UNLESS someone from the real side steps in....and from what i know they are all out of country, arrested, dead or lack enough support.

on the other hand, this could easily fizzle out and its the same... heads you lose , tails we win....and ahmad remains in power to be the much needed created enemy of the west...which makes me believe they will escalate things to massive proportions in the near future.

[persian_x]

Another "revolution" has been ignited, self inflamed and of course steered by the powers that conspired it in the first place...by the puppet masters of iran's obomba type candidate of change mousavi. I guess after all that has happened in the last 48, the new softer minion could be him, with the people actually being happy about it.....which is ASTONISHING cause just before the election, people KNEW it was NOTHING more than a vote in a corrupt regime to get rid of ahmad. as of now , the standing dictator aka supreme leader has hinted towards his slow but evident decline of power by allowing a probe into the elections....which means a shift to the other mullah rafsanjani and his cohorts....who are solely deceiving western agent$. the joke is under the turbin it says made in america. how precisely they execute is beyond me. problem cause solution.

because the majority of iran could not have tolerated another 4 years of extremism policies under ahmad...now they can be happy with their new form of mind control....cause after all this protesting, they have thru pure sorcery feel they have won it !!! the kind of change that would lead up to the unification of all created enemies ala nwo if mousavi is wrongly supported by the desperate iranians who see no other solution at this time, who could blame them not I. UNLESS someone from the real side steps in....and from what i know they are all out of country, arrested, dead or lack enough support.

on the other hand, this could easily fizzle out and its the same... heads you lose , tails we win....and ahmad remains in power to be the much needed created enemy of the west...which makes me believe they will escalate things to massive proportions in the near future.

I have been following these elections for a few weeks now and from the common knowledge of CIA operations and NWO minions, I can assure you that the revolution in Iranian cities are not orchestrated by them. This is probably the expected reaction but the protests themselves are done by the people and for the people.

My theory is that Ahmadinejad and Khameini were told that they have to stay in power for another 4 years in order to really divide the Middle East and try creating conflict with Pakistan, Afghanistan and obviously Israel. They need Iran so they can destabilize the region and divide it up: This is why CIA operatives have been messing around with mosque bombings in the Baluchistan province of Iran. HOWEVER, this is a turning of the tide. Since the elections have definitely not been successful by Khameini and the forces that be. The people are revolting. Even in the inner circle of fascist clergy they have been divided. The islamic regime is in a free fall. Was this expected? Was this engineered to happen? I cannot 100% say that it was or it wasnt. But I know for a fact that the people in the major cities are fighting for freedom and regime change, that I can guarantee you, and they are not under CIA coup.

[mynameis]

This is why...

Speed of Iran vote count called suspicious
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090615/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iran_fraud_allegations_2

[axomoxa]

I know for a fact that the people in the major cities are fighting for freedom and regime change, that I can guarantee you, and they are not under CIA coup.

Yes I fully Agree on that point substantiated by first hand accounts from Tehran. yet that anger was intentionally ignited...i doubted these mullahs would have fucked up this bad. I am pointing to the fact that they are now fighting for their "obama" since they were not able to vote him in like they did in US. So, if they do win by protests....it has been transformed into the illusion of a victorious "revolution" style event...instead of getting a SELECTED less moderate leader in a corrupt regime, a fact that eludes no persian. regime change is what they rather have...a reformist is the best they will get as they are forced to play by their rules and the hidden game. (like theyre told to chant "god is great" to calm the brutal islamic gaurds durring protests)

Yet perhaps due to poetic justice, this has turned into a perfect storm, I wish that someone from a REAL democratic stand would step in and lead them instead of mossavi, whose intentions are not clear. only thing that is clear, he is a major threat to the conservative fractions of the power, meaning a better future for the people with less power in the hands of the fucking mullahs. basically, the lesser of 2 evils in this case, is actually much much less evil.

meanwhile the truthers are being INTENTIONALLY lied to by the gatekeeping truth pretending alt media, using cia blah blah and ahmad's tuff talk towards zionists and nwo...its just part of the puppetry preformance.... ITS JUST TALK to perp fear of war...he is their minion as is mosavi (which i think mossavi is for the other fraction of power, socialists sweeping the world). if cia was in this, then their group mujahedeen would be present in it...and everyone is already on to the cia... but reverse psychology people can hardly spot. overall, since the pillars of power are prone to dissovling in the mideast much easier than west....with mosavi eventually a real change has a glimer of hope to cascade in favor of the people and like they say the tide will suddenly turn.


http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/15/mondays-updates-on-irans-disputed-election/ (http://http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/15/mondays-updates-on-irans-disputed-election/)

[sloughi]

Katyusha explodes in north Israel; no casualties

By Anshel Pfeffer and Eli Ashkenazi, Haaretz Correspondents

A Katyusha rocket fired from Lebanon exploded in the Upper Galilee on Tuesday evening, the first such incident since last month. Nine Katyushas have struck northern Israel since the Second Lebanon War in 2006.

The rocket hit an open field near Kiryat Shemona and caused no casualties. A Lebanese security official confirmed that the rocket was fired from the Houla village in southern Lebanon.

The Israel Defense Forces fired an artillery round at Houla in response to the attack, both IDF and Lebanese officials said. An IDF spokesman said that the army viewed the attack with "utmost severity," adding that Israel was holding Lebanon responsible for the incident.

Hours before the attack, Defense Minister Ehud Barak toured the north and spoke of Israel's desire to maintain the relative quiet in that area of the country. http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1123997.html