Time To Fight Back Against Online Disinfo Agents

[shodan]

You've heard of the Digg Bury Brigade and you've read countless comments from ill-informed Neo-Cons who engage in ad hominem attacks and smear jobs, but there's a new menace that threatens to hamstring the 9/11 truth movement and it needs to be confronted now - Wikipedia trolls who have initiated an organized campaign to deep-six our information from the Internet


http://prisonplanet.com/articles/july2007/280707fightback.htm

TOSSER.

we can all help combat this one

[eternal_spirit]

Wik still has good info. Lot's of unedited and uncensored articles.

[hagbard_celine]

It's amazing how if you come out with "conspiracy theories" you get a contradictory reaction: On the one hand you're laughed at ridiculed and people walk away from you, on the other you're treated as dangerous and get a lot of attention.

My question to Mr Devonshire is: if you're so sure that conspiracy theories are nonsense, then why this need for destruction and vandalism? I don't know any "CT-er" who travels the net deleting Skeptical webpages.

I think Devonshire... and other like him closer to home;)... deep down know that the "CT-ers" they despise have a valid point.

[kooo]

There are a lot of professional trolls on this forum with the sole intention of disrupting the flow of information, these people are morally bankrupt.

[anoninnyc]

Erm, why bother??

Why not just download this software, oroginally wrote for Wikipedia.

Its free.

Host it, and start a conspiracy-pedia?? Conspedia??

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki

good idea, but it won't have the mass appeal that wikipedia does. some "regular" people are turned off by the whole conspiracy thing......... and equate it with tinfoil hats.

[hagbard_celine]

There are a lot of professional trolls on this forum with the sole intention of disrupting the flow of information, these people are morally bankrupt.


Then as Marie Antoinette would say:

"Let them eat Ignore list".

[cruise4]

Not a bad idea that conspira-pedia !

[3ill]

Seriously, I see people oin this board waaaayyyyy too interested in marking people as disinfo, and not interested enough in applying a metaphysical understanding of spitiuality to there life, or exposing people who are wronging the world as a whole. It's really disheartening, and one of the reasons I don't post often.

"You're disinfo!"

"No you are!"

"Oh only a disinfo agent of the highest order would say that!"

3!LL

[3ill]

Lol. Yeh I am with you on that one. Sad really. Maybe when they hit puberty they will see things with a little more farsight.

Oh you lot who think everyones against you....

Thought you'd like this : -

Well worth lookin at just for novelty value:

http://retecool.com/new-age-disinformation-generator.php

I don't make remarks about people hitting puberty friend, I feel sad that so much potential is wasted on this trite. Don't diminish people bring them up, fam.

I read your post and you defamation of my sacred herb. Whatever you think you do or know you still belittle, undermine, and insult the people on these boards in the word you choose. If you have any argument, present yourself honestly, and not with malice.

While I'm glad you agree with me, I've yet to agree with you. Point taken.

Point is at this juncture, I'm suspicious of your motives, by many factors that I will not list. Do I think your "disinfo"? nope. Do I think you have anyhting to add? nope. So instead of finger pointing or labeling, I'll do what any civilized free thinking person should, Ignore your posts until you have something to say that's productive, or treat you as a grain of salt until you prove other wise. Point Taken? I wish more people on the boarsds would realize this. We're all supposed to be awakened, right? You know what you know, you know what you found as truth through following a stream of info that led you here, right. Well if a buck of people come on trolling, the most efficient course of action is realize what they are and give them nothing to use.
Right now your just giving them drama, and that doesn't seem the actions of apparently awakened individuals.

Oh, and I am so Disinfo. ;)

3!LL

[3ill]

No sweat. I perused you posts and found some interesting info you presented in another topic where you claim we are all weak, so I'm on the fence. All I'm saying is it saddens me to see so much potential energy wasted in the form of meaningless strife.

I mean, isn't that what were pissed that they are doin on a larger scale, meaning less strife?

Peace,
3'LL

[lydia78]

Hi sidreighn,

Good points with your research and discernment...but can I ask you what you meant by,


"He lives on the isle of white and witchesare rife in their folk law."

I may be reading you wrongly here but there's a serious undertone of negativity in that particular sentence. Witches and folk lores are not negative forces by any means, no more than shamanism or any person who works with the rythms of nature or whom understands spirit. In truth, it doesn't matter whether its a pentagram, wand, knife or gun, we all have the power to deliver either positive or negative intent on each other.
I have found the witch community to be humble and wise in my experience.

Have you had any experiences of witches in the past sidreighn?

[auron]

Everything we see, the trees, the sea, the plants, people, places and my socks is all DISINFORMATION!!! ALL OF IT!!!!

[lydia78]

Hi sid,

yes I can help you define these terms...no worries. but before that I would like to offer you some hope. :D
In every single occupation, whether its witch, wizard, builder or politician, you will encounter the geniune and/or the fraudlent. I have for the past few years been doing my rounds in psychic fairs, exposing charlitans...so called healers or mediums and witches, because they are damaging the truth of esoteric knowledge,but the truth is if you use psychic ability to harm another, the negative energy returns (even stronger) to the person whom cast it, its all about intention you see and karma is our mirror.
A white witch or hedgewitch (is solitary worker like a shaman) willl only ever release energy (spellwork)for the highest good of the person asking for help, this will either be ritualitic or not depending on the conciousness of the witch. These geniune witches, work only with the light and only with high guides and rarely use the astral world. Some say that witchcraft derives from the pagan and druids, however, with powerful whitewitches this is not the case, they are more aligned to the powers of the native indian shaman traditions, they have familars in the form of their animals whom assist them with healing, and literally work only with unconditional love, for the universe, the earth, humanity and all whom dwell here. Witchcraft is also knowing nature, communing with it, loving it, and nature does speak her secrets to those whom love being emersed in her, the aim is to align earth energies with the feminine or the goddess, to rebalance mascline energy which has dominated this planet for far too long. Also a geniune witch has an old soul even as a child, she/he has a wisdom beyond their years, they are not the mainstream 'newager' trying to impress or use their power to bolster their ego.
Now for the complex task of defining paganism and wicca, the thing is witchcraft can be used in either and they're all very simular, by use of ritualistic earth magic. But the pagans (and I apologise in advance if I upset the pagans here) are pretty undisciplined, well at least the modern ones anyway!They are overtly more interested in the sexual rituals and joys of the physical body, and if I may say have become lost to the new age hype. They are prone to ego erruptions and don't do their solidatary homework, yet in the old days paganism was the mainstram 'way', before the romans came and killed many off in place of christanity.
Wicca can include witches but not necessarily, again, is ritualistic. They use elemental magic like the hedgewitch,(earth, air, fire and water), i have nothing too bad to say about wicca, you may find that in wicca tarot or runes are used along with many other divination tools. Its all about honouring the energy of the moon, sun, earth etc, and developing a relationship with them.
I've forgotten the other question you asked, so will have to get back to you on that one, but basically all three states of belief are partly the same thing, the only difference being individual intention when removing or replacing energy (spellcasting).
The witch you encountered, without further info is impossible to know if she really was a satanist. If so and you experienced negativity there are a few things you can do to reclaim yourself. Simple things, like change your number, have salt baths, salt is a great neutraliser of negative energy, this is why most witches use salt to rid unwanted negative spirits or people. You can also realise that really nobody can really harm your energy without your permission and if she took advantage of you while drunk she is not the real macoy, the real thing would not have to pounce upon anyone whom was in a vunerable state, only assholes do that, and it demonstrates weakness not strength. So you must take back your power by saying to yourself, 'I made a mistake and I cancel all effects from the satanist's energy in all directions of time', take a salt bath or have a walk in nature and feel the negativity blow away in the winds. The imagination is great for getting rid of unwanted energy!!
As for you girlfriend, tell her mistakes made are lessons learnt, if she spell casts again make sure she understands the power of the moon during waxing/waning, it makes a huge difference, but again witchcraft is not for the fainthearted, you must learn your craft because more than anything it's about responsibilty....a powerful lesson in itself.
Also, all these satanists probably never met a demon or shadow before, and if they do well......they'll be in a bit of a jam! SO don't worry!!

Right....i'll get back to you on the other question soon!!:p

[lydia78]

Ahh, the occult!!

Is a broad term to basically cover all aspects of divination, 'paranormal' psychic abilies, clairvoyants, clairaudiant etc. So All the above is encapsulated in this terminolgy.

If your studying anything have a look at western estoricism alongside the eastern....that way you'll have the whole picture and not half of it!!

And look after yourself in future!!:D

[lydia78]

Hi Auron,

Its all relevent disinformation, this may well be a tempoary home for our soul to awaken, to enlighten and help others for a time.....but it's all relevent!

:D

[auron]

??? Can you ellaborate?:confused:
It was my poor attempt at humour. :D

[ashyr]

lol auron is class.

On the one hand you're laughed at ridiculed and people walk away from you, on the other you're treated as dangerous and get a lot of attention.

yeah so true.

yet even thouh you may have something relevant. they dont want to hear it. that proves you right. bt they dont want to hear it. so are they really paying you to go away? illl lower my head. release my tension. discharge. and if your there u can suck it up. =D hehe psy_hoover heheh i should sell them .

[lydia78]

Hi Auron,

:D:D:D:D:D

They say more than words ever could;)lol..

[lydia78]

Hi sid,

Glad to help, I did not intend on producing an omnious vibe, I just meant for you to stay aware of what and who you place your trust in the future!!;) Don't worry though, trial and error is also a good path to learn and gain wisdom, experiences like that can help and accelerate our understanding of our truth.

Anyway, cleansing.....a favorite of mine is sage, the herb, you can buy or make you own dried sage smudge stick, not many people can hack the smell but mum and I always say that it's when you can tolerate the smell you know the sage is working. It's a old native american tradition for cleansing negativity from your aura/energy field, it cleanses thought processes, I usually do this once at the end of each month, but there are no hard and fast rules, ultimately it is down to you to decide what works for you and when. (Sage got rid of the dark heavy vibes left in the house by my step-father who happens to be a grand-master mason, worked a treat).

As I have said before, salt baths.....don't underestimate the power of salt!! It literally absorbs negativity and soon as you get out the bath you will notice how much lighter you feel.

Walks in Nature, this is something I do everyday if I can, and recommend it to everyone...so if you have a dog, take advantage and get out into the country, theres nothing quite like walking with the elements, developing intuition and listening to the wind....Nature is the most powerful healer I have ever come across!!

The most important lesson in cleansing that I have found is that yes, you can go and get someone else to do it for you, but judging by some healers who do not walk their talk I recommend that you do it for yourself. It's also a great opportunity to know yourself better, and that in itself is true healing!!

I wish you all the best on your journey!!:D

[lydia78]

Hi Sid,

Yes, salivia divinorum is a great cleanser, here's a site on it;

http://www.sagewisdom.org/

I tend to go for sea salt, the big old salt crystals and put them in a bath, you can also, if you have any, place quartz crystal in the bath too.......both or either are awesome in relieving stress and cleansing the neg's from your energy and mind!!:p

[auron]

Hi Sid,

Yes, salivia divinorum is a great cleanser, here's a site on it;

http://www.sagewisdom.org/


:)