Michael Jackson

[rasnalgoul]

More Herb induced revelations for you folks. As a matter of facto im under the direction of de herb right now mon. Well anywho, I was thinking very deeply going through tons of rabbit holes, when all the sudden I was thinking about MJ and how hes totally obsessed with children. Ive seen it mentioned before here on the forums, various things about MJ like (speaking of which why do they want us to call him MJ? maybe its like a demon name or something they want people chanting- maybe thats a dead end) his possible connection to freemasonry, including symbols and such, and also people saying he looks very reptilian. Well anyway with all the charges against him of child abuse or molestation I kept thinking or picturing him as a vampiric thing that constantly craved children so he could suck from their pure energies. Also in some of Davids works he mentions that white blond haired blue eyed babies are what satanists crave most for ceremonies. Also why in the hell does jackson have cream white children. They obviously have to be adopted, maybe they are like his new feeding source or hes gonna corrupt them. Also how he dangled the baby over the balcony like steve irwins holds chickens over an alligators mouth, like food. Maybe its just this herb mon, but all this shit was just flowing together for me. peace, one love

[umbrex]

u mean this as a joke right, because it's damn funny :)

[cruise4]

:D Seconded. Would love to hear your insights into Madonna and Britney if you are still awake.

[rasnalgoul]

actually it was seriously what I was thinking. But considering you thought it was a joke has sparked something else in my mind. I was laughing as I wrote that whole post, but I was sincere, I didnt just make that up to get people to chuckle thats really what I was thinking. Its interesting that it came out that way, I mean I smoked some serious shit last night. Home grown stuff higher than a kite. And honestly I couldnt tell you why I suddenly started thinking about Michael Jackson. What a weird thing, stay tuned though, Im sure Ill have more crazy ass things to say when Im ripped

[umbrex]

actually it was seriously what I was thinking. But considering you thought it was a joke has sparked something else in my mind. I was laughing as I wrote that whole post, but I was sincere, I didnt just make that up to get people to chuckle thats really what I was thinking. Its interesting that it came out that way, I mean I smoked some serious shit last night. Home grown stuff higher than a kite. And honestly I couldnt tell you why I suddenly started thinking about Michael Jackson. What a weird thing, stay tuned though, Im sure Ill have more crazy ass things to say when Im ripped

Seems rather simple to me. You were smoking weed and thought that people in here would be open to the revelations it would bring you. U are obviously into this conspiracy stuff, but perhaps a bit to much into David Icke.
The u started making wild, unfounded and stupid claims about MJ being an energy sucker and part of the establishment, while he is quiet obvious a delusional, deranged madman who peaked long ago. I dreaded u might be serious for the above reasons. Have a nice day.

[rasnalgoul]

yeah i suppose everything seems so amazing and deep when your high. Some stuff has been really insightful and some stuff has been, well as you can see utter crap.

[kblood]

Dreaded he might be serious?

I once had a vision about the devil showing me how he had Micheal Jackson in his fold, in his own way. Well vision might not be what it was, but at the time I found out I actually had to laugh. One person I dont feel pity on for being satanic is Micheal Jackson. Also he agreed to be in some comedy movie or show where he made a joke about himself as a wannabe vampire.

If anyone can tell me that you got something that might indicate that MJ is a good person these recent years (last 3 or 4) then please post it. I actually was near Michael Jackson about 6 years ago. Was at a hotel where lots of famous people were going in, arriving for whatever was going on. He was getting out of his Limo but someone yelled at him, asking about what the stuff about those children was all about. That apparantly was enough for him to jump right back into his Limo and drive away. I overheard Britney Spears calling him a scaredy cat afterwards :rolleyes:

If I ever meet him, I wouldnt mind learning more about him and maybe get the stories straight.

In Micheal Jacksons defence: I was told by a... I think he was a saxophonist... but a musician anyway, that Micheal Jackson was a very misunderstood person. That his white skin was due to a skin disease, and the operations never had been something he had chosen... He told about how he learned about it as well though, and he was told this by some of the other people working for Micheal Jackson at the time. There it would be nice if anyone could post some official stuff about this disease being something that actually was in his family. It might as well be Micheal Jackson having made a very... wierd choice, and regretting it big time. It would seem a very wierd and crazy choice though, even for Micheal Jackson.

For now I will give him the benefit of the doubt. Especially since I dont know how good credibility my own visions have yet. They sure come to me in wierd ways. Like, I dont believe the devil to exit. But then I dont believe death to have a personification, but that has been a vision of mine as well. In my defence, my mind does need medical drugs to work "properly". I just decided that I knew better than my doctors to see where it would take me. And now I live a quite normal life by just about all standards :) Day to day life that is... sometimes it does get kind of trippy, but I just try to make the best of it.

[esse]

Interesting subject - sure many of us have pondered. I've certainly noticed some very obvious Illuminati symbolism in some of Michael's Videos - There's the one where he's in Egypt with the whole mummy disintegration thing, re-birth energy transference, pyramid - pretty heavy symbolism, though one doesn't know is he just totally controlled and a sad victim. Perhaps some are chosen for their light and spark - the brightness that comes thru in his music etc, I think there is little to no doubt that he's a victim of mind control - though as to him ever having had any choice in the matter - much like other Disney Based Musicians, Britney Spears, Christina Aguilara, Justin Timberlake - it seems pretty sad to me, they are taken as children, controlled, no doubt tortured - perhaps the later degradation - their lives being dragged thru the mud, their personal breakdowns, problems and eccentricities - not really suprizing that traumatized lives would show these signs of disharmony, I've wondered if it isn't just another trauma they're made to endure having all this public scrutiny and attention in the negative.
I find Micheal's Thriller album quite interesting, the title track and video with it's theme of a hidden monster inside him - Is this his subconscious at work? His repressed memories and knowledge coming out creatively? Something to consider. I think sadly it's so easy for us to hate many in the "network" - and so hard to know who to blame. So many people inside are controlled from birth more or less and never have any freedom or choice, it makes one wonder which ones do actually choose this path - souls more pitiable still -

[saturn]

i think he is a mind control victim, going back to the days when his dad abused him and they were looking for record label deals. definitely multiple personality. there are a few alters there. there's the glamorous and flashy showman, there's the introverted guy obsessed with privacy, there's the business man, there's the kind-hearted humanitarian, there's the child who hasn't grown up.....

it's not his fault he's so fucked up, he was traumatised into a multiple personality and mind control victim. in the martin bashir interivew when he was talking about his dad beating him, he said he remembered his dad's blue eyes. but his dad does not have blue eyes. i think it was a repressed memory of soemone else also abusing him, one of those illuminati people. deep down my gut instinct tells me he's truly a good guy, a very sensitive and compassionate being who's done some amazing things, both artistically and concerning charity; i have doubts if one of his alters is actually a paedophile. i think he was set up. that whole bashir interivew and mj's subsequent arrest was just too convenient for me. it's like they had already decided to frame him and they were looking for a reason that would make it look like there was something to investigate so they got bashir into the picture and had their excuse. tom sneddon, the man who prosecuted him allegedly has links to the ku klux klan.

this guy is way too sensitive for this world and wierd beyond all belief, but in the end it doesn't make him bad. i sense he is not one of them illuminati people; he's just been used by them like all mindcontrol victims are. he's a good soul who is just so messed up there is no hope for him; a lost cause. i don't think there will be a happy ending for him. we all create our own reality and from the time he was young he was victimised and that is the only way he will ever see himself so he will only get himself into situations where he is victimised; he has a martyr complex.

i have often wondered if all his plastic surgery and obsession with masks isn't a trait of a person with multiple personality disorder. if you're a multiple you want to escape from yourself and be someone else; completely dissociate and take on another identity. so perhaps all the surgery is a way of doing that subconsciously. as for his skin, he has vitiligo. not his fault and it runs in his family; his sister latoya has it as well though not to such an extreme extent.

[kblood]

In the Illuminati pyramid it is all based on abuse and mind control. They all grow up like that, from what I have heard. So it makes it all the more likely that Michael is Illuminati.

I do not know if he is just a victim or more than that, but his life still seems more messed up than Britneys.

[emerald]

[B]At the beginning of this year found a post on net about MJ saying he actually died somewhere at the end of the '80s and he was replaced, this xplaining the number of surgical operations he was subjected to and subsequently his unhuman look. Possibilites are open...

[misscpb]

i think he is a mind control victim, going back to the days when his dad abused him and they were looking for record label deals. definitely multiple personality. there are a few alters there. there's the glamorous and flashy showman, there's the introverted guy obsessed with privacy, there's the business man, there's the kind-hearted humanitarian, there's the child who hasn't grown up.....

it's not his fault he's so fucked up, he was traumatised into a multiple personality and mind control victim. in the martin bashir interivew when he was talking about his dad beating him, he said he remembered his dad's blue eyes. but his dad does not have blue eyes. i think it was a repressed memory of soemone else also abusing him, one of those illuminati people. deep down my gut instinct tells me he's truly a good guy, a very sensitive and compassionate being who's done some amazing things, both artistically and concerning charity; i have doubts if one of his alters is actually a paedophile. i think he was set up. that whole bashir interivew and mj's subsequent arrest was just too convenient for me. it's like they had already decided to frame him and they were looking for a reason that would make it look like there was something to investigate so they got bashir into the picture and had their excuse. tom sneddon, the man who prosecuted him allegedly has links to the ku klux klan.

this guy is way too sensitive for this world and wierd beyond all belief, but in the end it doesn't make him bad. i sense he is not one of them illuminati people; he's just been used by them like all mindcontrol victims are. he's a good soul who is just so messed up there is no hope for him; a lost cause. i don't think there will be a happy ending for him. we all create our own reality and from the time he was young he was victimised and that is the only way he will ever see himself so he will only get himself into situations where he is victimised; he has a martyr complex.

i have often wondered if all his plastic surgery and obsession with masks isn't a trait of a person with multiple personality disorder. if you're a multiple you want to escape from yourself and be someone else; completely dissociate and take on another identity. so perhaps all the surgery is a way of doing that subconsciously. as for his skin, he has vitiligo. not his fault and it runs in his family; his sister latoya has it as well though not to such an extreme extent.

I agree with most of what your saying, with regards to the alleged abuse of children etc I feel that he may well have done that and because somewhere along the line he has either tried to break free from programming or did not follow orders, he was exposed and his world came crashing down. Just like what they are doing with Britney Spears.

[octopusrex]

Illuminati Michael Jackson.

Okay. That does it. Yer all crazy.

[kblood]

Illuminati Michael Jackson.

Okay. That does it. Yer all crazy.

He might not have been succesfull, but if he was acting his way through some of the things he has been through, then he did quite well. Did he ever get convicted of anything? Has he ever done crime? How much is known about what he is doing to pass time these days?

[esse]

Yeah, I feel that - He does seem to be a good soul, and yes, hopelessly messed with. Don't know about the body double thing someone mentioned, they say that with Paul McCartney - but why double someone when you can so easily control them??? I appreciated yr insight into his multiple personalities and this being behind his wanting to change his appearance so drastically - Even his obsession with Diana Ross, that would explain it - he's young, abused, living half his life in the supressed shadows - and meets this loving female whom he becomes obsessed with as an object of being that light caring nurturing energy within him which is being so attacked and twisted. Don't know if he is guilty of the pedopheila, I think he does have one alter that is still a child - trapped in that mode is pretty textbook for abused children, and its not suprising he tries to share his intimate self with people of this age - though I also wonder if he hasn't just slept in the same bed and cuddled these kids, been no doubt weird and raised eyebrows, etc, but I don't really know about him really abusing them, raping them etc - possible, but a question. As for the comment on Britney not being as messed up - give her time, he's twice her age and he didn't seem so messed up in his 20's! I also think it's interesting to note who he's formed friendships with and relationships with - there seems to be something to Priscella Presley - another abuse victim? Her relationship with Micheal and now with Mr. National Treasure (what a crap Illuminati Film that is!) - you notice that abused children gravitate towards others like themselves in their friendships and relationships... Funny that the people who are close to Micheal seem to have such intense care for him - I do think the genuine sensitive angel side, the humanitarian is there for sure, we all feel the power of this truth in his music, he wasn't a massive star for nothing, but he's definitely been used, abused and controlled - it makes me think of the book Moonchild, where Alister Crowley describes techniques for causing a certain soul to enter a womb in the control of the dark orders... I wonder if astrology isn't used to divine these soul's inherent incarnations and then meddle to bring them under control so they can be used rather than help liberate the planet. I still think people like this (Marily Monroe another one) are lights to us, regardless of the control and abuse their lights still do shine and their messages can't be quelled. That is what he has given us, and that is a lot - The smear campaigns (obviously something directed and coming from said orders) are their best way to get us to dismiss all this.

[chipshoplarry]

hi guys, have you checked out michaels song 'They don't care about us' its pretty powerful and obviously has a deep political meaning.

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=latLyAI_mbU

[kale]

Michael Jackson "This Is It" (Steve Porter Remix) - YouTube

[lozz]

i think he is a mind control victim, going back to the days when his dad abused him and they were looking for record label deals. definitely multiple personality. there are a few alters there. there's the glamorous and flashy showman, there's the introverted guy obsessed with privacy, there's the business man, there's the kind-hearted humanitarian, there's the child who hasn't grown up.....

I've been a fan of Michael Jacksons work since he brought out Thriller and i find your observation to be very astute saturn. I don't think he's controlled by outside influences i think this is a natural occurrence as you say due to systematic abuse from his father during his growing up.

[lozz]

hi guys, have you checked out michaels song 'They don't care about us' its pretty powerful and obviously has a deep political meaning.

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=latLyAI_mbU

It is an incredible song and there are many others that hold such insight and anyone would benefit from really listening to the words. Like "The man in the mirror" for instance.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[sheepy]

Illuminati Michael Jackson.

Okay. That does it. Yer all crazy.


:D

[greydove]

Yeah, I feel that - He does seem to be a good soul, and yes, hopelessly messed with. Don't know about the body double thing someone mentioned, they say that with Paul McCartney - but why double someone when you can so easily control them??? I appreciated yr insight into his multiple personalities and this being behind his wanting to change his appearance so drastically - Even his obsession with Diana Ross, that would explain it - he's young, abused, living half his life in the supressed shadows - and meets this loving female whom he becomes obsessed with as an object of being that light caring nurturing energy within him which is being so attacked and twisted. Don't know if he is guilty of the pedopheila, I think he does have one alter that is still a child - trapped in that mode is pretty textbook for abused children, and its not suprising he tries to share his intimate self with people of this age - though I also wonder if he hasn't just slept in the same bed and cuddled these kids, been no doubt weird and raised eyebrows, etc, but I don't really know about him really abusing them, raping them etc - possible, but a question. As for the comment on Britney not being as messed up - give her time, he's twice her age and he didn't seem so messed up in his 20's! I also think it's interesting to note who he's formed friendships with and relationships with - there seems to be something to Priscella Presley - another abuse victim? Her relationship with Micheal and now with Mr. National Treasure (what a crap Illuminati Film that is!) - you notice that abused children gravitate towards others like themselves in their friendships and relationships... Funny that the people who are close to Micheal seem to have such intense care for him - I do think the genuine sensitive angel side, the humanitarian is there for sure, we all feel the power of this truth in his music, he wasn't a massive star for nothing, but he's definitely been used, abused and controlled - it makes me think of the book Moonchild, where Alister Crowley describes techniques for causing a certain soul to enter a womb in the control of the dark orders... I wonder if astrology isn't used to divine these soul's inherent incarnations and then meddle to bring them under control so they can be used rather than help liberate the planet. I still think people like this (Marily Monroe another one) are lights to us, regardless of the control and abuse their lights still do shine and their messages can't be quelled. That is what he has given us, and that is a lot - The smear campaigns (obviously something directed and coming from said orders) are their best way to get us to dismiss all this.

Nice post. I totally agree.

[esse]

It's a confusing world... you don't get an evil vibe from people like Marilyn Monroe, Michael Jackson, etc... though if you are into research you can see these people and their lives are surrounded by mind control, secret societies and people heavily into power and the occult on the negative side. I just wonder where it all started... certainly there are reams of mind controlled people in Hollywood and music, and in bloodline families who are basically just born into mind control and never choose any of it. It's generational, so hard to even know who to blame --- You do see a powerful light in some of these people, and viewing that it's hard to know how much that light is cultivated (mind control can produce genius!) for it's express manipulation - and how much it exists despite all the horror these people have suffered at the hands of their abusers.
When I think of some of our century's great musicians, political figures, etc... it's damn confusing.. The Beatles for instance... great music, seemingly great personalities, so much we feel about these guys, but then Crowley on the cover of Sgt Peppers, John dying in the Rosemary's Baby hotel, lyrics with hidden messages about Sgt Pepper/aka Crowley, etc etc, satanic hand signs on album covers... Similarily MJ's vids are laden with occult symbols... remember one where he's a pharoh in a pyramid is it dying and being reborn - how much heavier than that can u get! At some level, I think, if there are other beings behind all this, reptilians, other diminsional entities, etc... than few if any humans would really be choosing to go along with their agendas... maybe they are just manipulated and lost and have lost their selves to that point... hard to say. Pawns in the game...

[lordzoma]

This is an old topic.

I think it is blatantly obvious to anyone with eyes that Michael Jackson kept close contact with young virgins in order to take their energy for himself.

Anyone who cannot conceive of that simple concept need not ever talk to me.

[leeshort27]

This is an old topic.

I think it is blatantly obvious to anyone with eyes that Michael Jackson kept close contact with young virgins in order to take their energy for himself.

Anyone who cannot conceive of that simple concept need not ever talk to me.


simple concept????