Jesus was black

[mauviene]

http://members.tripod.com/jrmoore1958/jesusearlyimage.jpg

http://2.media.tumblr.com/YBCLupe5xeuhgiytOS8HTCvIo1_400.jpg


http://sharpiron.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/9558black-jesus-and-scenes-of-life-posters.jpg

WHATS UP NOW HOMIES!!

[kingmob]

That brotha had it going on!

[mephibosheth]

He was black and totally ripped. And not only above the waist--! :eek: When he cast the money lenders out of the temple, he REALLY CAST THEM out of the temple!! Reseachers claim that he carried a glock at all times, but never wore a vest.

[mephibosheth]

Those pics look entirely gay to me. Looks like 'jesus' is having an orgasm on the cross, rather than suffering. Look at his massive package!! Surely, it rose in 3 days.

[luciferhorus]

WHATS UP NOW HOMIES!!

It seems that the only way to get a thread going here is to say something which will give rise to contradiction and abuse


OK.


I don't know what colour Jesus' skin was.


What I do know is that the Israelites were allegedly the descendents of African slaves.

I'll go with Mauviene on this one.

http://jewsribsinbearjaw.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/ethiopian_jews.jpg


http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/slaves1.jpg


http://hotlism.net/imagehost/images/ecvzvmsbbsmpvpzeji1k.jpg

http://mathildasanthropologyblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/nubian-tribute.jpg


http://score.rims.k12.ca.us/activity/ancient_hebrews/media/IsraeliteSlave.jpg

http://www.white-history.com/hwr8_files/nubs.jpeg

http://egyptianagriculture.com/images/egyptian_farming.gif

He was probably Semitic (a mixture of races), but he was certainly a Communist/ anti-monetarist.

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m89/CHE_LIVES/FREEDOM%20FIGHTERS/Communism.gif

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dwS7qfzBHmQ/SHe5dt1CWaI/AAAAAAAABRY/0OQV2fy0Gv8/s400/cuba+fidel.jpg

LL

Lux
World Communist Revolution

http://thetroublemakertimes.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/cosatu-logo.jpg

[synergy777]

as jesus was a native of the land, then he was asiatic, eg a mixture of african and asian/arab. the european version is a recent version, based on cesare borgia. in fact the earliest representations of jesus, all had him having black/brown skin. also given the hot climate, its most probable he had tanned skin.

hence if the vatican told the truth about jesus, his colour etc, racism would cease to exist. as the white supremacist groups all use the bible eg the curse of ham and jesus as their main argument for superiority. obviously the ending of racism is not beneficial to the vatican/elite, as it unites the masses.

the most important aspect of jesus, is not his colour,its his message. he gave 2 commandments.

1; love god with all your heart, mind and body

2: love one another eg 1love, compassion to all, equality, liberty for all.

all the rest is details.

as long as we follow his message, his example, we are on the right track.

[eternal_spirit]

LOL always thought he was sort of whole grain pasta coloured sort of brown, resembling the flying spaghetti monster.

[size_of_light]

http://2.media.tumblr.com/YBCLupe5xeuhgiytOS8HTCvIo1_400.jpg


If Jesus really looked like this brooding, petulant bitch, I'm going with the Prince of Darkness all the way.

[eternal_spirit]

If Jesus really looked like this brooding, petulant bitch, I'm going with the Prince of Darkness all the way.

:D I dunno I'd do him I were gay.

[size_of_light]

:D I dunno I'd do him I were gay.

Is it just me or does he look like he's jacking off in the second image down on the right hand side?

[eternal_spirit]

Is it just me or does he look like he's jacking off in the second image down on the right hand side?

If so he has tiny penis, always knew it was an urban myth about black dick.

[islamvslizards]

am i missing something? how does his skin colour have any importance except messing up bible belt americans views on "jayzus"?

[newspresenter]

jesus was black

You would assume he atleast wasn't white, but probably not black, more likely brown.

Whatever colour he was, he was communist filth.

[meksar]

I don't think David Icke has a belief in Jesus due to the contradictions and hypocrisy of the bible, but i think he knows that if he did in fact exist he would of have to had been a black man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8zohMUaUog&feature=related

[mauviene]

You would assume he atleast wasn't white, but probably not black, more likely brown.

Whatever colour he was, he was communist filth.

Communism is harmony with reality

Capitalism is dissonance without reality


--But I actually Don't believe in Jesus (obviously) I just like making religious and offensive jokes on occasion.

But if their was a Jesus (which their wasn't) I think I will combine my proposition in this thread with a proposition in another thread claiming that Jesus was gay..making the obvious clear that Jesus was a gay Jewish black guy.

[decim]

making the obvious clear that Jesus was a gay Jewish black guy.

Jesus was a communist gay Jewish black guy.

[kasalt]

He doesn't look very black to me:

http://198.62.75.1/www1/apparitions/http:/jesus.gif

[meksar]

He doesn't look very black to me:

http://198.62.75.1/www1/apparitions/http:/jesus.gif

You do know that is a depiction of Cesar Borgia by Leonardo Da Vinci, Leo took a shine to Cesar as he satisfied his sodomite desires more than others. Cesar was the son of Pope Alexander VI and was a tyrant, homosexual pedophile, had sex with both his mother and sister and even murdered his own brother in cold blood.

[darreninnz]

He never existed, how come not one historian at the time of his supposed time on earth never mentioned him.

[kasalt]

This is a portrait of Cesare Borgia:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01298/Cesare-Borgia_1298519c.jpg

I don't quite see a resemblance.

[holy_wood]

He doesn't look very black to me:

http://198.62.75.1/www1/apparitions/http:/jesus.gif

lol

http://gayspirituality.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341d27db53ef010536f6e5ae970b-800wi

[lostinstrangeworld]

It doesn't make any difference what colour his skin was.

What we do know is a lot of the Bible cannot be taken literally as it is a collection of older stories.

There may or may not have been a Buddha like teacher who they hijacked/ plagiarized the teachings of as he influenced a lot of people which worried tptb....so they incorporated his teachings into their own to persuade people who followed him to accept their religion, the Roman religion.

If there was a genuinely wise teacher at that time, then it's nice.

It doesn't make any difference what his skin colour was.

What does matter is what he felt in his heart!

[kasalt]

This is allegedly "The most popular picture of Jesus of all time", in the sense that it has been the most used to portray him:

http://tommcmahon.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/sallman.jpg

Source: http://www.tommcmahon.net/2006/11/warner_sallmans.html

[meksar]

http://greatmillstone.info/GMSpictures/slides/CESARSIGNFINALIZEDlow.jpg

[kasalt]

You do know that is a depiction of Cesar Borgia by Leonardo Da Vinci, Leo took a shine to Cesar as he satisfied his sodomite desires more than others. Cesar was the son of Pope Alexander VI and was a tyrant, homosexual pedophile, had sex with both his mother and sister and even murdered his own brother in cold blood.

Furthermore, Leonardo da Vinci did not produce that portrait so I don't know what you are on about, other than to make erroneous racist jabs against Whites. This is how Leonardo portrayed Jesus:

http://www.indonesiamatters.com/images/last-supper-2.jpg

[kasalt]

http://greatmillstone.info/GMSpictures/slides/CESARSIGNFINALIZEDlow.jpg

Now it's interesting that there is some resemblance between Cesare Borga and the Jesus in that portrait.

[darreninnz]

I love your avatat Kasalt, lots of crystals- what strain is it?

[meksar]

Furthermore, Leonardo da Vinci did not produce that portrait so I don't know what you are on about, other than to make erroneous racist jabs against Whites. This is how Leonardo portrayed Jesus:

http://www.indonesiamatters.com/images/last-supper-2.jpg

Truth is truth and those fagot, pedophile satanic pieces of shit in control of the Church of Babylon(what you would call the Vatican) know exactly the truth.

[eternal_spirit]

This is a portrait of Cesare Borgia:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01298/Cesare-Borgia_1298519c.jpg

I don't quite see a resemblance.

The eyes :eek:

http://www.abebooks.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/shining.jpg
http://198.62.75.1/www1/apparitions/http:/jesus.gif

Going off the eyes and the vibe according to the girl sat next to me.


http://www.witchyswikkedgraphix.com/categories/Angels/angel%20%2827%29.gif

[lostinstrangeworld]

The first picture looks like that guy from Monty Python, forgotten his name. LOL

[kasalt]

http://www.lovewithoutend.org/images/lamblion_story.jpg

[kblood]

Aye. Makes most sense that he would have been black, otherwise it would most likely have been mentioned in the bible. If his skin color was ever mentioned in a bible though, it would most likely have been removed. For the same reason that they have painted him as a white man for so many centuries.

Anyone got something for before year 1000 artwork of jesus, or is it all gone? I guess it could be said that they actually believed in the bible enough back then as to not make an icon of him.

[lostinstrangeworld]

I find this thread a bit pointless, to be honest, considering the inaccuracy of the Bible and the sheer lack of evidence over so many things, like whether he even existed or not.....

But hey, whatever keeps people occupied! :)

[lostinstrangeworld]

If we're still bitching about skin colour differences here on Earth, how can we expect to be ready to meet races from other planets?

It's not fair, I want to meet them. Life on Earth is cruel and shitty.

[lostinstrangeworld]

http://www.lovewithoutend.org/images/lamblion_story.jpg

ROFL!!!!!

It's Kevin Costner!

Looking a little bit cheesy! :D

[eternal_spirit]

ROFL!!!!!

It's Kevin Costner!

Looking a little bit cheesy! :D
Looks like the goat maybe thinking what's under his robe smells a bit chessy

[lostinstrangeworld]

Looks like the goat maybe thinking what's under his robe smells a bit chessy

Oh yuck. People always want to be crude. :rolleyes:

[eternal_spirit]

Oh yuck. People always want to be crude. :rolleyes:

Well not everyone shares the same humour. A cheesy joke. I agree that it doesn't matter whater colour he was, or if he existed personally.

[kasalt]

ROFL!!!!!

It's Kevin Costner!

Looking a little bit cheesy! :D

I thought it was Billy Ray Cyrus, a.k.a. Mullet Jesus?

Note the resemblance:

http://forladiesbyladies.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/billy-ray-cyrusmtgzoa.jpg

[lostinstrangeworld]

Whoever its meant to be, I don't know. But his fashion sense stinks :p

[lostinstrangeworld]

http://forladiesbyladies.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/billy-ray-cyrusmtgzoa.jpg

What a square head! :p

Oh no, I'm in a ridiculously silly mood......

[eternal_spirit]

http://www.tarotreadingsecrets.com/content_images/the-devil.jpg

http://www.midasupload.com/users/1/Devil.gif

http://b6.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00151/69/28/151808296_l.jpg

[kasalt]

Here's an image of Jesus from the 3rd century (or possibly the 2nd):

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/50/Good_shepherd_02b.jpg

[disorder2k8]

this is the real jesus http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa63/Disorder2k7/oldmanbot.jpg

[lostinstrangeworld]

Excellent. :D

[kasalt]

I don't know what colour Jesus' skin was.


What I do know is that the Israelites were allegedly the descendents of African slaves.

I'll go with Mauviene on this one.


I think it is highly unlikely that Jesus or the Old Testament Israelites were Black for the following reasons.

Firstly, Noah had three sons (Shem, Ham, and Japheth) which according to the rabbinical account were the progenitors of what were then considered to be the three basic racial classifications of mankind (Semitic, Negroid, and Caucasoid). The Israelites were Semites, being descended from Shem. (Ham was the progenitor of the Blacks, and Japheth was the progenitor of the Whites.)

It is true that the Israelites were accompanied by a "mixed multitude" during their sojourn out of Egypt to the Promised Land (Exodus 12:38 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2012:37-38;&version=9;)), and it is probably likely that at least some of these people were Black, given the fact that Blacks also served as slaves in anceint Egypt:

http://nefertiti.iwebland.com/timelines/topics/pics/african_slaves.jpg

But Moses and the Israelites themselves could not have been Black--firstly because the Bible tells us they were descended from Shem rather than from Ham, and secondly because if we assume that they were Black, Miriam and Aaron would have had no reason to complain about the fact that Moses had married an Ethiopian woman (Numbers 12:1 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers%2012:1-10&version=9;)). These two points proves that the original Israelites were not Black.

Beyond that, we find later Old Testament prophets such as Ezra (in chapters 9 and 10 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezra%209-10;&version=31;)) and Nehemiah (13:23-30 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Nehemiah%2013:23-30;&version=31;)) ethnically cleansing the Israelites in order to preserve their racial heritage.

So I'm afraid I don't see much room in all that for Jesus to be Black.

[lightgiver]

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/1824/08realjesusee8.jpg (http://img141.imageshack.us/i/08realjesusee8.jpg/)

or

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/3666/likene2hh7.jpg (http://img135.imageshack.us/i/likene2hh7.jpg/)

or

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2398/likene1gk8.gif (http://img144.imageshack.us/i/likene1gk8.gif/)

http://www.freamasons.com/freamasons_page8.html

Egyptian and Ethiopian Female Pharaoh:
Daughter of Tuthmosis I , half Sister and Wife of Pharaoh Thutmosis II, who had a son Thutmose III , by a minor wife.
Her long blonde hair and facial structure has been well preserved by the embalming process of the time
After the death of Thutmose II Hatshepsut calls on Solomon for help. This information we read on one of his statues, `I was in this land under [her] command since the occurrence of the death of [her] predecessor...'[P. Dorman, `The Monuments of (Solomon) Senenmut', (Kegan, Paul, London, 1988)]
Queen Hatshepsut of Egypt (Land of Punt - S. Egypt -Africa) brought back was the “seed of Solomon (Senenmut)”. she gave birth to a child, Menelik.
Hatshepsut disappeared in 1458 B.C. when Thutmose III, wishing to reclaim the throne, led a revolt. Thutmose had her shrines, statues and relics mutilated.

http://www.burlingtonnews.net/david.html

[nimlyn]

The guy I’m married too reckons that Jesus is a space-man…:)

So from that statement I guess that JC is:- Jeff Bridges…;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri-NEhcplbI

[kasalt]

I love your avatat Kasalt, lots of crystals- what strain is it?

Sry, I didn't see your post or I would have replied sooner.

The strain is called "Ice". It is "A special cross of Afghan, Northern Lights, Skunk and Shiva."

Here's the link: http://www.marijuana-seeds.nl/ice.html

[decode reality]

I'm sure it's been mentioned before....but of course, it brings up the issue of did the man known as 'Jesus' exist, or is it just a metaphor- sun symbolism- taken literally?

As far as I'm aware, there are symbols of 'Madonna and Child' in Africa and India (Auset & Asvati- even the names of the 'Virgin Mary' show the connection) and other places I'm sure, long before what we know as Christianity and the Bible. Why have those images been suppressed so much that you have to look around some antique or non-mainstream books by "controversial" authors to find them? That ought to be questioned.

BUT- it ultimately comes down to what you do with the teachings in your life, doesn't it? What I'm saying is that possessing the info that Jesus is black or white is not going to necessarily transform you. That takes WORK ON YOURSELF. It'd almost like me saying that my ancestors did all these great things, therefore I'm great and better than any other being by virtue of my genes.

If anyone disagrees and is even peed at me for saying this- thank you in advance.:D

[number 6]

Jesus was a black man
No Jesus was Batman
No, no, no, no, not at all
That was Bruce Wayne


Anybody remember Black Grape?
:D

[decode reality]

Jesus was a black man
No Jesus was Batman
No, no, no, no, not at all
That was Bruce Wayne


Anybody remember Black Grape?
:D

Shaun Ryder...yeah.

(But as we were saying about Jesus.........:p:D)

[luciferhorus]

I think it is highly unlikely that Jesus or the Old Testament Israelites were Black for the following reasons.

Firstly, Noah had three sons (Shem, Ham, and Japheth) which according to the rabbinical account were the progenitors of what were then considered to be the three racial classifications of mankind (Semitic, Negroid, and Caucasoid). The Israelites were Semites, being descended from Shem.

It is true that the Israelites were accompanied by a "mixed multitude" (Exodus 12:38 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2012:37-38;&version=9;)) during their sojourn out of Egypt to the Promised Land, and it is probably likely that at least some of these people were Black. But Moses and the Israelites themselves could not have been Black, otherwise Miriam and Aaron would have had no reason to complain that Moses had married an Ethiopian woman (Numbers 12:1 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers%2012:1-10&version=9;)).

Beyond that, we find later Old Testament prophets such as Ezra (in chapters 9 and 10 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezra%209-10;&version=31;)) and Nehemiah (13:23-30 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Nehemiah%2013:23-30;&version=31;)) ethnically cleansing the Israelites.

So I'm afraid I don't see much room in all that for Jesus to be Black.

Language is a Lie. Words are Weapons.

Yes you are entirely correct Kasalt, the Africans enslaved by the Pharoahs were not all 'black Africans' but came from all over North Africa; a 'Semite' (from which we get terms in English such as 'semi-tone' or 'semi-detached') has traditionally been used to describe a person who is neither Caucasian nor black African; it is only in recent history in Newspeak that a person like the current blond haired president of Israel is considered a 'Semite.'

If you go back prior to that even Chinese people were referred to as Semites; the facial appearance of the Middle Eastern and North Africa Semites (such as the 'Arabs) does show signs of interbreeding; they are very much a 'mixed race.'

http://420.thrashbarg.net/gay_black_jewish_klansmen_for_understanding_and_to lerance_pink_robes.jpg
http://www.poster.net/ali-g/ali-g-vote-ali-g-4900223.jpg

'Is it cos' I'm black?'

When Ali G states 'Is it cos' I'm black?' people laugh because he is not black, but a satire of a black wannabe who accuses those who make critical comments about him of racism

http://www.topnews.in/files/Tzipi-Livni1.jpg

'Is it cos' I'm a Semite?'

When Jewish people of European descent refer to the critics of Zionism as 'anti-Semites (which David Icke has been accused of, albeit falsely),' nobody laughs, as they do with Ali G comments, since the etymology of the term 'Semite' is generally not understood and the term has been hijacked, but it is really no different to Ali-G's satire, except that most Zionists are not semitic-wannabes, rather they are often anti-Semites (they don't like the Arabs for example) who paint their opponents with the brush of anti-Semitism when Semitism is not even an issue, since Zionism is a political movement of mostly Europeans who have thrown the Semitic population of Israel off their ancestral lands.


http://bp1.blogger.com/_l8LzSPJDgcM/R7cuO2mt9tI/AAAAAAAAAEU/ZcYk6be4EP4/s400/blondjesus.jpg

Among Christians of black African descent it is common to have an image of 'Black Jesus' in their homes, just as mediaeval German Christians portrayed a blond haired, blue eyed Jesus in stained glass in churches, and then during the Crusades went on a rampage through the Middle East murdering 'Semites,'

It is all rather silly really.

Of course we all know the dude was a Communist and looked just like me.:)

http://www.luciferia.tv/3seal_files/image001.jpg

The rest are just 'splitters.'

LL

Lux
The People's Front of Judea
http://www.thepfj.co.uk/PFJ_pyramid.gif

http://www.realityloop.net/blog/Thesamebutdiffernt_694/Front_3.jpg

[alexat123]

I think it is highly unlikely that Jesus or the Old Testament Israelites were Black for the following reasons.

Firstly, Noah had three sons (Shem, Ham, and Japheth) which according to the rabbinical account were the progenitors of what were then considered to be the three basic racial classifications of mankind (Semitic, Negroid, and Caucasoid). The Israelites were Semites, being descended from Shem. (Ham was the progenitor of the Blacks, and Japheth was the progenitor of the Whites.)

It is true that the Israelites were accompanied by a "mixed multitude" during their sojourn out of Egypt to the Promised Land (Exodus 12:38 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2012:37-38;&version=9;)), and it is probably likely that at least some of these people were Black, given the fact that Blacks also served as slaves in anceint Egypt:

http://nefertiti.iwebland.com/timelines/topics/pics/african_slaves.jpg

But Moses and the Israelites themselves could not have been Black--firstly because the Bible tells us they were descended from Shem rather than from Ham, and secondly because if we assume that they were Black, Miriam and Aaron would have had no reason to complain about the fact that Moses had married an Ethiopian woman (Numbers 12:1 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers%2012:1-10&version=9;)). These two points proves that the original Israelites were not Black.

Beyond that, we find later Old Testament prophets such as Ezra (in chapters 9 and 10 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezra%209-10;&version=31;)) and Nehemiah (13:23-30 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Nehemiah%2013:23-30;&version=31;)) ethnically cleansing the Israelites in order to preserve their racial heritage.

So I'm afraid I don't see much room in all that for Jesus to be Black.

Kasalt:

I find it very interesting that some how, by your own interpretation of the Bible you find it very hard to believe that Jesus, Moses or the Hebrews could be so called "Black." By you very own admission HAM was the progenitor of the black race. HAM of course had 4 sons:
1. Phut- Libyan
2. Mizraim- Egypt
3. Kush- (His son "Nimrod" the might hunter founded Babel in Mesopotamia)
4. Canaan- Canaanites(present day Isreal)

Now all of this is important because? According to your logic and admission Black people would have been the original peoples of what is now Africa and the middle east. Also your so called Egyptian people who enslaved blacks are in fact, how can I put this, "Black." LOL.

Remember that guy Abram later Ab|ra| ham seems as though he was born in the southern Mesopotamia in a city founded by Nimrod (black man), later he traveled to Canaan (black man), built an alter there and headed where? Another land of the decendents of HAM (Egypt. need I repeat (black man)). Sounds like those Semites really like living amongst those black people. LOL.

Those Semetic Isrealites couldn't be black even though poor little Joseph got sold to those Egyptians(Ham) and became an advisor to pharoah. and when his brothers came begging for food they couldn't even tell the difference between a Semetic Isrealite and a Hametic Egyptian. Maybe because they too assumed Semetic Isrealites and Hametic peoples were different races. Luckily Joseph said "I ain't black, I've just been living with them so long their skin color is rubbing off on me!!! LOL.

Now according to your theory Moses couldn't be black either. Well he's Semetic Isrealite and was born in Egypt; and he happen to live with the Pharoah in his house as his grandson. And Pharoah said kill all the newborn babies of the Hebrews!!! Wow, now the Egyptian Pharoah can't tell the difference between Ham's people and Shem's people. Who must be different races according to you and your logic :confused:

Now I don't claim to know what skin color any of these people were, I wasn't there. what I do know is that Semetic is language and not race. There is only one race and various ethnicities based on social construct. Now these racial theories you peddle are nothing more than propaganda to push ethnic supremist agenda. aka BS.

P.S.

Nimrod(son of Kush, grandson of Ham that black man according to you) founded many cities in the Mesopotamia(Iraq) area. Now that is something for you to digest.

Its also funny how all those Isrealites came to Egypt from the land of Canaan(son of Ham) during that drought. Digest that also

[kasalt]

Now according to your theory Moses couldn't be black either. Well he's Semetic Isrealite and was born in Egypt; and he happen to live with the Pharoah in his house as his grandson. And Pharoah said kill all the newborn babies of the Hebrews!!! Wow, now the Egyptian Pharoah can't tell the difference between Ham's people and Shem's people. Who must be different races according to you and your logic :confused:

If Moses and all of the Israelites were Black, then what is your explanation of Numbers 12:1 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers%2012:1-10&version=9;)?

There is also Jeremiah 13:23 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jeremiah%2013:23;&version=9;) to consider:The rhetorical question "Can the Cushite change his skin?" in Jeremiah 13:23 implies people of a markedly different skin color from the Israelites, probably an African people; also, the Septuagint Greek translation of the Old Testament made by Greek-speaking Jews between ca. 250 BC and 100 BC uniformly translates Cush as "Ethiopia." (Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Cush )
"Cush" means dark in Hebrew, and Cush corresponds to the Greek word from which we get the name Ethiopia. The two words are obviously synonymous and refer to the same group of people, as the Jewish historian Josephus states:Josephus gives an account of the nation of Cush, son of Ham and grandson of Noah: "For of the four sons of Ham, time has not at all hurt the name of Cush; for the Ethiopians, over whom he reigned, are even at this day, both by themselves and by all men in Asia, called Cushites." (Antiquities of the Jews 1.6 (http://reluctant-messenger.com/josephusA01.htm)). (Wikipedia: "Biblical Cush (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Cush)")
It then appears to be the case that according to the Biblical account, the Black race is decended from Noah specifically through Ham's son, Cush. The Semites were not Black, for as the name indicates, a true racial Semite (in the classical meaning of the term) is someone who is neither Black nor White, but somewhat in between.

Josephus also gives us the racial complexion of the first man, Adam. In his Antiquities of the Jews 1.6 (http://reluctant-messenger.com/josephusA01.htm), he states:Moreover, Moses, after the seventh day was over begins to talk philosophically; and concerning the formation of man, says thus: That God took dust from the ground, and formed man, and inserted in him a spirit and a soul. This man was called Adam, which in the Hebrew tongue signifies one that is red, because he was formed out of red earth, compounded together; for of that kind is virgin and true earth.
A red complexion would correspond to an intermediary color between dark skin and light skin, and the ancient Israelites obviously fancied themselves to be ethnically the same as the original man, Adam. Hence, the Israelites were neither Negroid nor Caucasian, but Semitic, with everything that that name implies.

[bendoon]

The "Land of milk and honey" or the promised land.

Exodus 3
8 and I am come down to deliver them out of the hand of the Egyptians, and to bring them up out of that land unto a good land and a large, unto a land flowing with milk and honey


What use would a land of Milk and Honey be to Black people ?

None whatsoever, because up to 90% of Africans are Lactose intolerant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose_intolerance

[alexat123]

If Moses and all of the Israelites were Black, then what is your explanation of Numbers 12:1?

It's funny that you mentioned Numbers 12:1 as compelling evidence, when the event that took place after it (Numbers 12:9-10) seems to be kind of counter productive to your argument.

"And the anger of the LORD was kindled against them; and he departed.
And the cloud departed from off the tabernacle; and, behold, Miriam became leprous, white as snow: and Aaron looked upon Miriam, and, behold, she was leprous."

Anyways, one thing is for certain, the case for a black hebrew doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility!!!

[bendoon]

Read your bible, The aboriginal races were created on the 6th day, Adam was created on the 8th day after the day of rest. This is backed up by science which says Africans are considerably older than Europeans.

Jesus said "I am not sent but to the lost sheep of the house of Israel", and where did the apostles go looking for the lost sheep ? Europe not Africa.

[krakhead]

Of course we all know the dude was a Communist and looked just like me.:)


Nah, he could grow a real beard! :p :D

[octopusrex]

Jesus was not black nor white..

The man was pure Gold.

[kasalt]

Jesus was not black nor white..

The man was pure Gold.

And your posts are pure Glib! :p

[kasalt]

It's funny that you mentioned Numbers 12:1 as compelling evidence, when the event that took place after it (Numbers 12:9-10) seems to be kind of counter productive to your argument.

"And the anger of the LORD was kindled against them; and he departed.
And the cloud departed from off the tabernacle; and, behold, Miriam became leprous, white as snow: and Aaron looked upon Miriam, and, behold, she was leprous."

Numbers 12:9-10 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers%2012:1-10&version=9;) is in no way counter-productive to my argument because the ancient Israelites were neither Black nor White. The passage clearly states that Miriam and Aaron criticized Moses because he married a "Cushite" or Ethiopian woman. Their objection to the marriage was obviously based on racial grounds. God overhears Miriam's complaints and takes offence--not at her objection to interracial marriage per se, but at her willingness to oppose Moses in spite of the fact that Moses had a direct relationship with God. In other words, Miriam's disrespect to Moses was, by way of extension, disrespect to God. So God punishes Miriam in a rather appropriate manner, given her opposition to Moses' marriage to a Black woman. He strikes her with a form of leperous skin disease which makes her skin appear "white as snow".

That the original Hebrews were a red race of people is confirmed in the meanings of various Hebrew words from which we get the name Adam:

Hebrew - English
dam - "red" blood
adamah - "red" ground
edom - the color "red"
adam - the "red" man.
Quote:
There is one other connection between "adam" and "adamah" as seen in Genesis 2:7 which states that "the adam" (red man) was formed out of the "adamah" (red ground).
Source: http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/emagazine/001.html

Anyways, one thing is for certain, the case for a black hebrew doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility!!!

Let's put it this way: There is as much of a case to be made for Black Hebrews as there is for White Hebrews.

[rowan22]

I wonder what J.C would make of us obsessing about his colour?

[kasalt]

Read your bible, The aboriginal races were created on the 6th day, Adam was created on the 8th day after the day of rest. This is backed up by science which says Africans are considerably older than Europeans.

Jesus said "I am not sent but to the lost sheep of the house of Israel", and where did the apostles go looking for the lost sheep ? Europe not Africa.

How do you interpret Acts 8:26-39 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%208:26-39;&version=9;)?

[mauviene]

I wonder what J.C would make of us obsessing about his colour?

Correction:

I wonder what J.C. would make of us obsessing about his color if he existed outside of the Bible?

[truth finder]

http://members.tripod.com/jrmoore1958/jesusearlyimage.jpg

http://2.media.tumblr.com/YBCLupe5xeuhgiytOS8HTCvIo1_400.jpg


http://sharpiron.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/9558black-jesus-and-scenes-of-life-posters.jpg

WHATS UP NOW HOMIES!!

I believe he wasn't whit as he was born in bethlehem i believe he is of arab color not white nor black......

Although i could be completly wrong as no one realy knows....

[bendoon]

How do you interpret Acts 8:26-39 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%208:26-39;&version=9;)?

If Jesus had been black he would have been castrated, not circumcised.

[kasalt]

If Jesus had been black he would have been castrated, not circumcised.

I didn't say he was, and that wasn't the point of Acts 8:26-39 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%208:26-39;&version=9;).

You made the claim that "Jesus said 'I am not sent but to the lost sheep of the house of Israel', and where did the apostles go looking for the lost sheep ? Europe not Africa." But Acts 8:26-39 tells of one of the Apostles being sent to convert an African. That was the point.

[majorlee]

he was not entirely human too :D


i beleive adam and eve were black also!

[vetis]

People arguing over if a mythical being was a certain colour? Isnt this like who would win in a fight between batman and superman or something?

[d4rk3v1l]

Prove Jesus existed... ever. It never happened.

[synergy777]

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4862/christ.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/)

[eternal_spirit]

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4862/christ.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/)
He wouldn't have had many followers with a face like that no wonder there where only 12 apostles lol. I bet he had to bribe them with bread and wine.
What is that pic anyhow a 15th century mug shot? That would frighten children and small animals.

[istlota]

This thread certainly reveals the wisdom behind the commandment to not engrave images of God.

Bible-believing religious people typically see God, in their mind, as being:


Of the same race of they.
Partial to one ethnic tribe.
Angry.
Vindictive.
Full of wrath.
Prone to frequent acts of violence.

In short, they "see" God and Jesus as being a man just like themselves.

One wonders how it could be that so many bible-believing hypocrites could have missed the part in their bible when Jesus, clearly and without speaking in a parable, described God as spirit --- not a physical body of a particular skin complexion.

John 4:24 - "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."

[synergy777]

i think jesus looks good, whats the matter are you guys scared of us, tanned/brown people, lol

[disorder2k8]

hehe, aye and this is god

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa63/Disorder2k7/god_march.jpg
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa63/Disorder2k7/god_april.jpg