Firewalking

[cruise4]

Just got to the bit in Infinite Love wher DI uses the Firewalking example. Now as far as I know this occurs due to the nature of Heat Transference. It has nothing to do with mind over matter.

In an experiment I saw people with absolutely no training replicate the feat first time. Then the fire track was increased from some 20ft to 50ft and the so called spiritual pure ones had another go and they couldn't do it, they had to run off the side and their main man (Bald, black robed, mystical tattoo type) had a go with the same result.

If the track was made of red hot metal you wouldn't be able to even step on it without your foot melting. If I remember correctly the track has be made of Charcoals or wood derivatives of some sort. This is due to the heat transference properties of that medium.

So I'm saying this Fire walking is Hocus Pocus and easily done down short tracks by anyone, therefore a false example of mind control and the nature of reality. This can be proved by lengthening the track or altering the burning medium.

[joegum]

This is really interesting! I think that part of the conditioning and hypnosis that's been force-fed to us since birth is to limit ourselves. But, those limits aren't where we've been told they are, which the firewalkers have discovered.

I agree, ultimately there are limits.

I can push the reality around, but at some point, reality will push back. Ouch! Those coals ARE hot!

[joss classey]

i think the true mind control would be to continue running regardless of pain / damage

[aelusis]

Yea, I've read this about firewalking as well, even watched an experiment they did on the discovery channel demonstrating exactly how its done. Anyone could do it, really. You just walk fast, simple as that. But I have been trying to find actual physical evidence of mind over matter, as this is a topic i discuss with a friend of mind regularly. Not for my own personal validation, rather I think more for his. I know it's possible, I do it in really strange situations all the time. I can make myself stop shivering now in the middle of winter, in a -60 wind chill (welcome to the prairies). It's the damndest thing ever, it's taken me some time to perfect it, but it's like this complete disassociative state I go into. I swear to god, I don't feel cold when I'm in it. We got a vicious heat wave here about a month back and I tried doing the same again, but no such luck this time. I gotta work on the heat thing now:)

[joegum]

i think the true mind control would be to continue running regardless of pain / damage

I remember a psychology class I took where the Prof claimed that if a dog is taken from its mother at birth and raised with no exposure to other dogs, the dog will not experience pain. You can step on its paw, stick it with a needle, etc. and the dog will not react. Apparently, the ability to feel pain is not something inborn in the dog, it is something that is learned.

I wonder if this might well apply to people. Think of this in the context of "learning to see your original face."