need help getting disapline for t-shirt?

[gods sun]

hey all i just need a little help, i work as a kitchen porter and work in extremly humid and hot condition at work, i refuesed to wear a polo shirt because of its material in the heat and makes me very uncomfortable, so i decided to wear a lighter material such as a t-shirts and its black i follow like everyone else in uniform etc but i dont wear a polo shirt,

i went into work and manager asked me where my polo shirt was, i said politly that the area i work in is extremely hot and humid and i feel uncomfortable, he disappeared only for the head manager to come shout at me for not wear correct uniform? im now in a disaplinary procedure because of a pure black t-shirt?

i work very hard in these conditions and staff even say its to hot and bugger off and dont help, i work in a room about the size of average double bedroom.

id like to know my rights and is there anything i can do? they say i have to follow a process before i can wear somthing else?!!

i find this worng and bad, anyone help be greatful.

[youaredreaming]

Lot's of jobs out there, get a resume out and find something you like better. Sounds like the poeple you work for as just assholes anyways. I'd tell them to piss off and find something else. I have walked of the job at a few places when the owner/boss treats me like some dirt rag.

[gods sun]

ye the only problem is walking out isnt a real option and a matter of material change is such a big issue i continue to wear my t-shirt and wont fall for corperate policy of control. i signed the papers that doesnt mean i follow them.

my next t-shirt will be 9-11 was an inside job lol

[fairyelfdog]

ye the only problem is walking out isnt a real option and a matter of material change is such a big issue i continue to wear my t-shirt and wont fall for corperate policy of control. i signed the papers that doesnt mean i follow them.

my next t-shirt will be 9-11 was an inside job lol

Thats great :) Don't give in to them. If you get fired, it may be the best thing thats ever happened to you. Despite the initial problems.

[gods sun]

ye then i go to papers and say during recessesion people getting sacked for uniform change!! i belive im being fair and not rude i wear same colour as everyone and look presentable. i wash dishes not serve costumers. my machine chuggs out around over 100C i find this unfair. i work for sodexo!

[gilly]

It might be an idea gods sun, to move this thread to the Freeman thread.

There are people posting regularly on there who seem to be pretty clued up on people's rights.

Maybe if nobody's forthcoming with practical advice on this forum, I could move it for you?

[gods sun]

ok thanks

[enga]

hey all i just need a little help, i work as a kitchen porter and work in extremly humid and hot condition at work, i refuesed to wear a polo shirt because of its material in the heat and makes me very uncomfortable, so i decided to wear a lighter material such as a t-shirts and its black i follow like everyone else in uniform etc but i dont wear a polo shirt,

i went into work and manager asked me where my polo shirt was, i said politly that the area i work in is extremely hot and humid and i feel uncomfortable, he disappeared only for the head manager to come shout at me for not wear correct uniform? im now in a disaplinary procedure because of a pure black t-shirt?

i work very hard in these conditions and staff even say its to hot and bugger off and dont help, i work in a room about the size of average double bedroom.

id like to know my rights and is there anything i can do? they say i have to follow a process before i can wear somthing else?!!

i find this worng and bad, anyone help be greatful.

Try to get them to compromise by providing an agreeable lightweight vest or t-shirt which is smart and maybe with logo on for all the kitchen staff. Make it clear you aren't trying to be difficult and that you genuinely have a problem with body heat which in a kitchen area is disgusting as it produces excessive sweat which is not good in a food environment.

[gods sun]

exactly i have i look smart but like you said i aint gonna sweat in kitchen enviroment all it need was a quick comprmise and thats it but disaplinary? i have to go through a process to wear one where the end result is that im gonna be aloud to wear t-shirt, but i find it difficult to work and thats, that i just refused to talk after it just became to rediculous situation just being back at school.

[number_6]

I suppose that if at the interview for this job it was explained to you that you would be required to wear a certain type of clothing, and you accepted the job on these terms, there is little you can do. But I would suggest to look elsewhere for employment. I could never submit to wearing a uniform of any description.

[enga]

I guess some supervisors/managers feel threatened if they aren't seen to be lauding it over someone if they did something without asking first even when it's common sense. Sad.

[flickflack]

ye the only problem is walking out isnt a real option and a matter of material change is such a big issue i continue to wear my t-shirt and wont fall for corperate policy of control. i signed the papers that doesnt mean i follow them.

my next t-shirt will be 9-11 was an inside job lol

I don't think it would be such a great idea to wear a t-shirt with large text on. A t-shirt with no text or image at all would be better. Designed t-shirts may not suit the uniform very well, and could work as a deception. So a one-colored t-shirt would at least be a better option.

[gods sun]

i always wear a one coloured black t-shirt i wear nothing more and its all i want is to wear a t-shirt cause its too darn hot.

[yozhik]

It might be a long shot, but it might also be worth having a little chat to the chaps and chapesses at Health and Safety.

It sounds as if the working conditions are less than ideal.

Unfortunately, as has already been pointed out, an employment contract is just that; a contract.
Again, a long shot, you might (slim chance) have some grounds of the contract being void if you can assert and prove that there was not full disclosure of the working conditions when you signed the contract.

For this to work though, you really would need some corroborating report or finding from HSE.

Do you have a friendly GP?
If you can establish medical grounds, this may also assist you.
However, from your description of your employer, I doubt whether they will accept this.

Just some thought starters ...

[mondo23]

Wear your polo shirt, work extra hard, and get extra hot, faint, hit your head on the floor or some other surface, make sure you bleed. Your so-called superiors will soon change tack believe me.
Threaten to sue the company and your 'superiors' PERSONally for putting your health at risk. You dont put theirs at risk so why should you let them put yours at risk. What gives them that right? Because you agreed through your contract? Read your contract. Does it say that you must wear your polo shirt at work at all times no matter what, even if it puts your health at risk? I doubt it, unless theyre really dumb.
Better still, find another job then tell them all to go fuck themselves. Ive done this many many times in many differant jobs and its a great feeling. I had one employer say I couldnt just walk out of the job, there were rules in place for quitting. I laughed and said 'stop me' as I walked out of the door. :D

[yozhik]

Wear your polo shirt, work extra hard, and get extra hot, faint, hit your head on the floor or some other surface, make sure you bleed. Your so-called superiors will soon change tack believe me.
Threaten to sue the company and your 'superiors' PERSONally for putting your health at risk. You dont put theirs at risk so why should you let them put yours at risk. What gives them that right? Because you agreed through your contract? Read your contract. Does it say that you must wear your polo shirt at work at all times no matter what, even if it puts your health at risk? I doubt it, unless theyre really dumb.
Better still, find another job then tell them all to go fuck themselves. Ive done this many many times in many differant jobs and its a great feeling. I had one employer say I couldnt just walk out of the job, there were rules in place for quitting. I laughed and said 'stop me' as I walked out of the door. :D

Find one of those "no win, no fee" accident lawyers. :D

[mondo23]

Find one of those "no win, no fee" accident lawyers. :D

:D Theyre pretty easy to find. Theyre usually hanging around high streets wearing a fleece and holding a clip board.

[gods sun]

yes health and saftey is a very good option i was told to write a letter of grivement i will state that every person wears a different uniform and not all the same, my working condition is unacceptable, ive been to citizen advise and they say that everyone should have same uniform if not then i have every right to argue, its unfair and eventually i will leave as i gotta do my college course soon.

the letter will include that my equitment isnt working correctly, that all memmbers of staff do not have same uniform, and my working condition is effecting my health as a will get results from doctor and is probally 100% turnout is gonna be ibs stress related.

all because of a bliming t-shirt, so why cant they accept my t-shirt? well i think like above well stated that supervisors and manager seem offended that i used my common sence in this situation and felt very insulted that they didnt have control over me. i can deal with alot of heat and warm enviroments as i have been in army training and experianced difficulty but when unnessacary stress is involved it sucks.

i will wear my t-shirt as i have very big words to say. but really i dont think there gonna even bother opening it as they know there wrong and it all can be resolved easily with a small chat.

[Ian2day]

Wear a cotton vest under the polo shirt. Sew some panels into it and stick some of those squashy camping ice packs in their. Just rotate the defrosted ice packs for the ones in a freezer or coolbox. Or challenge the manager to work a shift with you in the same uniform and see how long they last. Or if you have an allergy to nylon see if they can provide you with a cotton polo instead. Do you use a non bio washing powder as this means that you probably have sensitive skin and could get a different top on medical grounds.

[bulletproofheart]

I suppose that if at the interview for this job it was explained to you that you would be required to wear a certain type of clothing, and you accepted the job on these terms, there is little you can do. But I would suggest to look elsewhere for employment. I could never submit to wearing a uniform of any description.

Same here,when I see people in a uniform I think of Autzwitz.

[bsmurph83]

bulletproof, is that a real pic and where'd ya get it??? it's brilliant...

[exhausted]

Can you get a wick polo shirts it is also called a wet/dry shirt if you sweat the material will dry by itself your boss may be interested in purchasing some for everyone else. That could be dangerous also and make you sick, I would faint in a polo in alot of heat. I hope it was not pique material it sticks to your skin in alot of heat.