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lifeofbrian
27-07-2007, 02:31 PM
I came across the expression and concept 'oneness' first in the late 1970's as far as I can remember. Back then the understanding was that oneness was a challenge an individual faced in the process of becoming a whole person from the basic physical to the highest spiritual. The idea was that oneness meant integrating all the good and the bad feelings and actions and owning them as in taking full responsibility for them - and this was seen as a task necessary in order to get in touch with the higher self and the more subtle bodies eventually reaching the realm of the immortal 'self'.

I found it making complete sense. What this outlook did was make it clear that projections were excuses and justifications for not being in a state of love. Not love as in tolerating anything or approving of anything, but as in seeing clearly what was going on when projection kicked in/avoiding responsibility for the own feelings and reactions. Letting myself down by avoiding growth and understanding. Not loving myself or those I perceived as opponents, every time I shifted 'blame'.

I recognised it as sanity. A sane person would be fully responsible and aware. So that is what 'oneness' represents in my understanding.

Thirty years later this is still what oneness means to me. Personal integration of all my own parts and subtle bodies from the physical all the way up to the higher self and the God-self within. As in, I am always me. Not several personalities. Not schizoid. One.

As I was born alone and will die alone, the time in between is also a deeply personal experience. My wish is not to change my neighbour. That is his job. If he wants to change. My job is to live and make sense of my life. Give it the meaning I feel it ought to have. Experience whatever I chose this lifetime for. And when I die and remember, either I will have managed to do what I came here for, or I missed the target (sinned).

Nowadays though, I wonder if people include other people in this concept? As if they are also other people? Hive-mind? With a duty to shape others and make them conform?

What is your understanding and your thoughts?

lifeofbrian
27-07-2007, 03:46 PM
What does 'Oneness' mean to you?

edit
27-07-2007, 03:58 PM
General Questions


1. What is meant by the term “Monad”?

a. The Tibetan often defines the Monad as “the One” or “the ONE”.

b. The Monad is the Universal One.

c. The Monad is the Universal Self.

d. The Monad is the essentially indivisible Universal Logos—the One and Only Definite Being. There, is, however indefinite BE-NESS.

e. The Monad both is and is not the SELF.

f. The Monad is the indissoluble Universal Unity.

g. The Monad is the One Pan-Cosmic Identity.

h. The Monad is the Cosmic Representative of ABSOLUTENESS.

i. The Monad is pure Intra-Cosmic Being but, both is and is not PURE EXTRA-COSMIC BE-NENESS.

j. Essentially, the Monad is the cyclically-recurring ‘RAY’ of the ABSOLUTE.



2. What is a M/monad?

a. In this text, the composite....

from - Introduction On the Monad (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=85482)

10 results for: oneness (http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/oneness)

edit
27-07-2007, 04:25 PM
Self...


An Ancient Basis for a New Psychology (http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/gdpmanu/7princ/seven-1.htm)
http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/gdpmanu/7princ/7prin.gif
(...)There is a monad at the core of every physical atom. The physical atom is the outmost body or vehicle through which the monad works and expresses itself. When it ensouls a chemical atom, the monad is starting near the bottom of the evolutionary ladder. And slowly through countless ages that monad passes from kingdom to kingdom of nature, advancing ever upward.

We can understand something of this process if we remember how a plant grows. Back of every plant is what may be called a plant-monad, in other words a spiritual monad passing through the vegetable phase of its evolutionary journey. A seed is dropped in the soil and immediately that conditions are right, the sleeping or latent energy locked within it begins the process of building up from the soil a plant-vehicle for itself. Similarly does the monad make for itself higher and higher vehicles as it passes upwards through the elemental, mineral, vegetable, animal, and human kingdoms -- someday to blossom forth in the vesture of humanhood.

The reader will now begin to see that it is these monads whose activities not only produce, but are the very stuff of evolution. The monadic hosts, high, intermediate, and low in their scale of development, ensoul and build all manifestations of life visible and invisible to us -- spiritual, intellectual, psychic, and physical. And they do this because of the spiritual urge at the heart of each monad, this urge being generated in its origin in the central universal fount of life.

It is these monads, with their inner life of urges, activities, and slowly unfolding characteristics, which make up the invisible parts of nature -- that invisible world of inconceivably greater scope and range than our visible. Here in these inner realms work the vast hosts of invisible monads which are thus the cause of visible evolution.

Before passing on to consider ourselves as seven-principled beings, we shall answer a question that may have arisen in the mind of the student. He may ask: What is the purpose of all this monadic evolution from kingdom to kingdom and from range to range or plane to plane of evolving being? This purpose can be stated as follows: Each great solar period of evolution is called in theosophy a manvantara. In this solar period or manvantara the monad starts out at the very beginning as an unself-conscious god-spark. And the object of its passage through all the forms of life in that particular solar manvantara is that it may emerge from them as a fully self-conscious god. When the end of that solar period comes, a monad which has successfully completed its evolution will have first-hand knowledge of -- will in fact have been -- all the life-forms in that manvantara. It will have absorbed to itself at last the power self-consciously to understand and assimilate and use all those experiences. So it becomes a self-conscious god, a master of wisdom and life in that manvantara which it has just rounded out. In a later solar manvantara, the monad will go on to experience still higher levels of evolution and knowledge.

The monad at the center of each one of us is far on its way to becoming such a self-conscious god. And this of course means that you and I, who are in reality our own monads if we could only realize it, are destined to emerge at the close of this solar manvantara through which we are now passing as fully-fledged, all-understanding gods.



...and
then...
pouring.. in.. comes..
A new Life Force ...
spiritual, of course...
and also..comes then..
The New Oneness..
2...

lifeofbrian
27-07-2007, 04:29 PM
Excellent stuff Edit :hat off:

If I may ask, how do you interpret and live and integrate this 'oneness' in your daily life?

Has this knowledge affected your outlook and attitude?

edit
27-07-2007, 04:41 PM
You are askin' me - Where do i stand in this
http://www.galenfrysinger.ws/movies/gods_must_be_crazy_c.jpg..Matrix ?

phoebe
27-07-2007, 04:44 PM
Oneness means the interconnectedness of all things.

lifeofbrian
27-07-2007, 04:44 PM
Yes, I do. I am asking you what you define as "oneness" in this matrix (if you will), Edit.

lifeofbrian
27-07-2007, 04:46 PM
Oneness means the interconnectedness of all things.

Please elaborate and make it more tangible to "the man in the street"? (How are you phoebe? Doing well I hope :)

friendsinthesky
27-07-2007, 04:47 PM
Yes, I do. I am asking you what you define as "oneness" in this matrix (if you will), Edit.

..follow the "coke bottle"...x4^

lifeofbrian
27-07-2007, 04:57 PM
Anybody can copy and paste. Not everybody can think for themselves.

edit
27-07-2007, 04:58 PM
Yes, I do. I am asking you what you define as "oneness" in this matrix (if you will), Edit.

'Oh My Science !"

or..

I-S-U-e-S C-R-E-S-T

Im am...

on..of.. The C r u s t (http://scign.jpl.nasa.gov/learn/plate1.htm)

Oldest chunk of Earth's crust ever found (http://environment.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn11438)

"The rock association, together with the chemistry of the volcanic rocks, indicates it was an island arc environment, like the Mariana region in the western Pacific," Furnes told New Scientist.

friendsinthesky
27-07-2007, 05:02 PM
Oneness means the interconnectedness of all things.

re: your sig.

Have you met an entity in the darkness of night?

lifeofbrian
27-07-2007, 05:11 PM
'Oh My Science !"

or..

I-S-U-e-S C-R-E-S-T

Im am...

on..of.. The C r u s t (http://scign.jpl.nasa.gov/learn/plate1.htm)

Oldest chunk of Earth's crust ever found (http://environment.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn11438)

"The rock association, together with the chemistry of the volcanic rocks, indicates it was an island arc environment, like the Mariana region in the western Pacific," Furnes told New Scientist.

Sorry, you lost me.

I wish you could just say what you mean in a straightforward manner, you know?

I mean, you are a person, right?

edit
27-07-2007, 05:22 PM
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rcrist
27-07-2007, 05:37 PM
"Oneness" is exactly what the evil elite want to happen, they have been trying to destroy race, family, gender and nation, all the things that make us human beings. Now the hippies want to become "one" ie raceless nationless bisexual single lemmings that buy things....YUCK!

lifeofbrian
27-07-2007, 06:22 PM
Well, I think we are all wonderful through our differences - what else would we have to talk about if we were all the same.

We would not learn anything either ;)

Keep it coming, folks. This "Oneness" label needs to be sorted out.

phoebe
27-07-2007, 06:32 PM
Please elaborate and make it more tangible to "the man in the street"? (How are you phoebe? Doing well I hope :)

I'm very well thank you LoB :)
Hope the same goes for you too.

Ok...
I was asked to write a simple article about Oneness, aimed at the 'man in the street', by the webmaster of a Oneness website.
So I'll just post that as my elaboration.

:)

What Is Oneness?

Oneness can be defined simply as the interconnection of all things.

The world we live in appears to us as an infinite variety of vastly differing forms: animals, people, plants, planets, galaxies – each with their own role and purpose in the cycle of life. Yet within each apparently separate form, from the tiniest micro-organism, to the most massive star, lies an indestructible essence. Although the forms themselves experience individual birth and death, this essence continues on. It is That Which Has Always Been And Always Will Be. The religious among us might call this essence “god”. It can also be called Pure Consciousness, the Creator, the Source, the One Spirit, Oneness, the One or Infinite Love, among many others. We could also describe this essence as pure potential. It has to be pointed out however, that no word is sufficient, because a word is a label, a concept, a thought, and what we are speaking of here cannot be conceptualised or properly understood with the mind. Only when the mind is quiet, can we truly know the nature of the One, of our true self, the One consciousness that pervades all things.

The term “Oneness” isn’t suggesting for a moment that all things are the same, but rather that the One has created all things in order to express and experience itself in an infinite number of ways through every single form and possibility in the universe. There is nothing that you can perceive with your five senses that isn’t the One and, furthermore, although there are vast aspects of the universe that we cannot perceive with our five senses, still it is the One.

So what does science have to say about Oneness? Science has shown that everything in the universe is made of the same basic building blocks of energy. Energy interacts on a subatomic level to form energy fields which physicists call subatomic particles. These subatomic energy fields interact to form atomic energy fields – atoms, which interact to form molecules. Everything in the physical universe therefore is made up of interacting atomic and molecular energy fields – the universe – including you and I – is one huge, dynamic dance of energy and at this quantum level there truly is no separation. This is obviously highly simplified, and anyone wishing to look further into this would do well to read “The Self Aware Universe – How Consciousness Creates the Material World” by Amit Goswami.

Of course, in our world, our reality, we appear as separate selves, each with our own personality, likes, dislikes, experiences and past history. The mechanism that causes the illusion of separation is the ego, the separate self. It is the ego that is at the root of the conflict and suffering we see in the world around us. That is not to say that it is an inherently bad thing, because it is also our survival tool in this reality. However, most of the human race do not use the ego as a tool, instead it uses them. We have lost control of ego and it has taken control of us and we see the results of this on a global level every day – greed, war, and the constant hunger for power over the rest of humanity.

I am not suggesting that we destroy ego, but rather that we endeavour to transcend it, rise above it, to see through it and realise that it is not the true nature of who we are. In doing this we discover our true nature, unconditional love and peace, the joy of being. This can be done by finding the space between your thoughts, observing your thoughts, and by living each moment instead of using it as a stepping-stone to the future. When we do this, we realise the nature of the One, realise in fact that we ARE the One. Eckhart Tolle’s fantastic book, the Power of Now, is a great starting point for any spiritual journey.

Humanity in general is in amnesia, has effectively forgotten its true nature – that we are one consciousness. Can you imagine a world that had awoken from this nightmare of forgetfulness? No more war or poverty since how could one harm another or allow them to suffer, when one realises that that person is part of them?

It is possible to awaken from this state of forgetfulness, and become what we call enlightened. Siddartha Gautama earned the title of the Buddha, meaning “one who is awake”. Another rather well known enlightened man was Jesus Christ the Nazarene, which means “the Anointed One, the revealer of what is hidden, the enlightened one who has the gift to awaken others”. However, this state of enlightenment isn't reserved for the lucky few - everybody can realise this state. Today there is renewed interest in spirituality, as people are beginning to search for the meaning of life, of the true nature of existence and the age-old knowledge of the One.

By asking yourself the question “Who is it that peeps out at the world from behind my eyes?” you embark on a spiritual journey of discovery, self-awareness and inner peace that will transform your life and potentially will heal the world.

phoebe
27-07-2007, 06:35 PM
"Oneness" is exactly what the evil elite want to happen, they have been trying to destroy race, family, gender and nation, all the things that make us human beings. Now the hippies want to become "one" ie raceless nationless bisexual single lemmings that buy things....YUCK!

Oneness doesn't 'happen'
Oneness is the nature of reality
Oneness doesn't abhor individuality!
It embraces it!
Celebrate oneness by embracing your individuality!

You have one body, right?
How many cells do you think are working together within your body?
Working individually, as part of one whole?
Each of those cells is part of you.
Yet, conversely, also isn't you at the same time.
That is oneness.

lifeofbrian
27-07-2007, 06:41 PM
Wonderful article, phoebe. Many thanks. :)

phoebe
27-07-2007, 06:50 PM
You're welcome.:D

phoebe
27-07-2007, 06:57 PM
re: your sig.

Have you met an entity in the darkness of night?

Many times.
Some of them are extremely scary,
And for some reason, it's usually the ones wearing an England football shirt.

lifeofbrian
27-07-2007, 07:07 PM
How do the rest of you bridge the gap between theory and practical reality though, regarding oneness?

I can find myself in the 'drivers seat' of the Observer-mode early in the morning, knowing I am "both the dream and the dreamer", and by lunchtime I am immersed in a silly discussion and feeling it is vital to get my point across and land the contract.

Bizarre, isn't it?

Luckily, in private matters, I can go back and say I am sorry to the people I want the most and the best for, and that my input matters not if it hinders their own wishes.

Professionally, the awareness of 'oneness' requires a common platform of communication and understanding, and in the west, I don't think we have one yet?

In Japan they do.

lifeofbrian
27-07-2007, 09:36 PM
Well, I think we are all wonderful through our differences - what else would we have to talk about if we were all the same.

We would not learn anything either ;)

Keep it coming, folks. This "Oneness" label needs to be sorted out.

Joan Armatrading - In These Times - YouTube

bigus_dickus
27-07-2007, 09:53 PM
every number is only one number

lifeofbrian
27-07-2007, 10:10 PM
Numbers?

Women have a way with words:

Pink- Dear Mr President - Live - YouTube

bigus_dickus
27-07-2007, 10:21 PM
yes they do, on the other hand.. a few wise words say

"much talking is poverty"

and

"someone who is out of the dance, sings more"

what does it mean.. what is a word.

a word, a sequence of characters, a character, like you and me, as an action creating a word creating a sentence, creating a paragraph, creating a chapter, creating a verse, creating a uni verse, everything deriving from the one and only, like the infinite moments of one second, one minute, one hour and one light year.

lifeofbrian
27-07-2007, 10:25 PM
yes they do, on the other hand.. a few wise words say

"much talking is poverty"

and

"someone who is out of the dance, sings more"

what does it mean.. what is a word.

a word, a sequence of characters, a character, like you and me, as an action creating a word creating a sentence, creating a paragraph, creating a chapter, creating a verse, creating a uni verse, everything deriving from the one and only, like the infinite moments of one second, one minute, one hour and one light year.

Yes.

We could all sit here and stare at an empty screen and pretend to be wise.

Works for me.

Or. We could speak like normal people and not pretend to be all high and mighty.

Works for me too.

Traffic is damn slow around here. Doesn't make sense with the numbers of people visiting.

Oh well.

How would you explain 'oneness' to Mr Average Joe, Sir Big Dick?

bigus_dickus
27-07-2007, 10:27 PM
How would you explain 'oneness' to Mr Average Joe, Sir Big Dick?

i would not.

lifeofbrian
27-07-2007, 10:28 PM
Anyone else out there with more than time to spend? Like opinions?

Step right in. The floor is all yours:

phoebe
28-07-2007, 12:17 AM
Oneness is probably the wrong word anyway.
(bigus has it right with the words thing...
but what's a forum for if it's not for at least trying
to get to the bottom of things
Even if we know that the finger pointing at the moon is not the moon itself.

So oneness is probably the wrong word.
When it all boils down to it
What there really is
is nothing.
But you can't have no-thing without some-thing to compare no-thing to.
So what is this something that is nothing?
What word can be used to describe it?

Easy..
just say god and be done with it.
At least with this word we realise how indescribable,
how completely unfathomably paradoxical this somethingnothing is.
And that really is the best answer
as far as I can see.

cruise4
28-07-2007, 12:22 AM
My input is 'Its a theory'

lifeofbrian
28-07-2007, 12:23 AM
Phoebe :)

who needs drugs when we have thoughts

I fear I am far too practical too pretend everything is an illusion. Right here, right now it seems the people here and the interactions are fairly 'real' and potentially able to cause some hurt.

Pretending none of that is real is like saying life is worthless. No point to it.

I cannot buy that.

Because, if so, why do we care about children being killed etc.

phoebe
28-07-2007, 12:29 AM
Phoebe :)

who needs drugs when we have thoughts

I fear I am far too practical too pretend everything is an illusion. Right here, right now it seems the people here and the interactions are fairly 'real' and potentially able to cause some hurt.

Pretending none of that is real is like saying life is worthless. No point to it.

I cannot buy that.

haha yeah
it always seems so rambled when I write it down on a page :)
I don't believe everything is an illusion
Not in a matrix kind of way anyway.
Everything is 'real' in it's own right
But the ultimate 'truth' I think
Is that we are just god experiencing it's own 'thoughts' or 'dreams'
Therefore ultimately we are illusory
But still real
haha

lifeofbrian
28-07-2007, 12:41 AM
haha yeah
it always seems so rambled when I write it down on a page :)
I don't believe everything is an illusion
Not in a matrix kind of way anyway.
Everything is 'real' in it's own right
But the ultimate 'truth' I think
Is that we are just god experiencing it's own 'thoughts' or 'dreams'
Therefore ultimately we are illusory
But still real
haha

I am not being thick as a plank on purpose; my guess is that a part of us functions much like we do when we have hindsight and can see more of the whole picture and therefore are capable of making more sense out of 3D experience.

This other part of us being in another dimension, now, and maybe we will merge with it and go through the life review with this other aspect of ourselves when we die.

I would like to think so. It appeals to me.

However, if we are to stay in the now my guess is we should maybe understand that the now is so very important because we are not to waste the experience granted and the knowledge inherent in having lived a life as a human on earth.

I am guessing feelings are not common everywhere. My guess is that feelings are what makes us really valuable and special.

By introducing the idea of nothing being real and an illusion, feelings lose their purpose, which is good when fear is concerned but less so if the ability to love and be passionate is affected.

We hear people speak of the Law of Attraction and that the energy flows where the focus/attention goes right?

I would say: energy flows where the heart goes. Feelings are far more powerful than thoughts.

Just my impression and guess, mind.

lifeofbrian
28-07-2007, 01:04 AM
Didn't quite finish;

I can view the idea of oneness as beneficial if seen as an explanation to keep in mind if life becomes too overwhelming and we are in danger of allowing fear to completely paralyse us. In any other case I think there is no real point in keeping it at the forefront of ones mind.

Since the concept of oneness implies we are all parts of a greater whole I wonder what kind of images other people get from that statement. A pyramid? "The One" at the top like some "All seeing Eye"?

You know?

edit
28-07-2007, 01:13 AM
Oneness is probably the wrong word anyway.
(bigus has it right with the words thing...
but what's a forum for if it's not for at least trying
to get to the bottom of things
Even if we know that the finger pointing at the moon is not the moon itself.

So oneness is probably the wrong word.
When it all boils down to it
What there really is
is nothing.
But you can't have no-thing without some-thing to compare no-thing to.
So what is this something that is nothing?
What word can be used to describe it?

Easy..
just say god and be done with it.
At least with this word we realise how indescribable,
how completely unfathomably paradoxical this somethingnothing is.
And that really is the best answer
as far as I can see.


Nothingness
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Nothing.

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Anonymous Coward
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Not.

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yes.....not....nothing......nothingness

Jdd
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7/26/2007 4:53 PM Re: Nothingness Quote

What nonsense. Where is the observable proof for anything, anywhere, coming from 'nothing'?

Everywhere around us we see life coming from life... we never see life coming from matter, non-life, or 'nothingness'.

This is athiesm... no-God created it all...

Gee, that means I don't have to surrender to God!

(The athiest's wishful thinking.)

Spectrum Blue
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7/26/2007 5:02 PM Re: Nothingness Quote



What nonsense. Where is the observable proof for anything, anywhere, coming from 'nothing'?

Everywhere around us we see life coming from life... we never see life coming from matter, non-life, or 'nothingness'.

This is athiesm... no-God created it all...

Gee, that means I don't have to surrender to God!

(The athiest's wishful thinking.)

Quoting: Jdd 272533


God is the one who creates something from nothing. To say that He can't would be to say that God is not the all powerful creator we all thought He was.

The universe is guided by God's hand. Before there was us, before there was an earth, before there was a solar system, and before there was a universe, there was God and nothingness.
Dreams will begin as they fade into chaos.


Jdd
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7/26/2007 5:20 PM Re: Nothingness
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You miss the point. You say:

"God is the one who creates something from nothing."

I say....
God is "something".
Something else gets created by God.
You see an intermediate step that is "nothingness".

You confuse the existence of the nothingness with the idea that "nothing" can create "something".

Not so. God created. What manifest forms/formlessness came as part of God's creative process is another matter.

The rebuttal of the "nothingness creates" concept is that God did the ultimate creating.

In other words, if you're going to advocate for the ability to "nothingness" to be creator itself (Mayavadi philosophy), you'd best make note of the fact that God did the original creating. And God is clearly not "nothingness". God is the Supreme Personality creator.




Quoting:
God is the one who creates something from nothing. To say that He can't would be to say that God is not the all powerful creator we all thought He was.

The universe is guided by God's hand. Before there was us, before there was an earth, before there was a solar system, and before there was a universe, there was God and nothingness.

Quoting: Spectrum Blue


To reach "Dharma" ... There is a need for... ( Oneness & "Dharma" )

..only by "going inside" ...and overcoming the "karma"

..Liberation from "The Weel of Life"

" Only spirituality will lead to true oneness "
http://www.dirah.nl/tibetan.htm

The learning process consists of reaching fulfilment by becoming one with the True Self (solution for Scorpio). This should be done in a calm way that implies setting one’s mind at rest (solution for Gemini). In the overview given below the solution for a certain nidana is found at the end of the description of a certain nidana.

There is a relationship between the nature of a nidana and the corresponding astrological sign.

Each nidana has a symbol that expresses a certain state which needs to be overcome by spiritual development. Below you see brief descriptions of the nidanas. The symbols which you see are details out of the Buddhist Wheel of Life.

The Buddhist Wheel of Life is held by the Lord of Death (Yama). He is the frightening figure that holds the Wheel. The Wheel of Life is about the imbalances that are the cause of incarnation. Therefore all the nidanas are inauspicious. Only by attaining a balanced, spiritual, attitude is it possible to reach spiritual liberation. By meditating upon the Wheel of Life it is possible to reach such an attitude.

Liberation is possible by breaking away from the central processes of the major and minor nidana. In many cases this has to do with the release of material desires and concentrating on spiritual values.

Virgo: symbol: two figures who are making love. Phassa, contact. The result of the meeting between the six senses (Salyanta) and an object is contact. The lovers embrace eachother in a sensual hug. The try to make one body out of two.

The central state is sensuality. Trying to make one body out of two will never be totally successful. Only spirituality will lead to true oneness.

>> http://www.dirah.nl/tibetan.htm

Nidâna (Sk.). (http://theosophicalglossary.net/)The 12 causes of existence, or a chain of causation, “a concatenation of cause and effect in the whole range of existence through 12 links”. This is the fundamental dogma of Buddhist thought, “the understanding of which solves the riddle of life, revealing the insanity of existence and preparing the mind for Nirvâna”. (Eitel’s Sans. Chin. Dict.)
see also >
Hindu-lunarzodiac >
http://www.dirah.nl/lunarzodiac.htm
&
http://www.astro.com/
nirvanasutra3.org.uk (http://www.nirvanasutra.org.uk/nirvanasutraa3.htm)

edit
28-07-2007, 01:45 AM
Oneness is probably the wrong word anyway.

Yeah. Could it be that that word "Oneness" comes as from the "Ones-nest" words more nature-like?

egg-like... en-e-m-u-http://www.eggsquisit.com/emu.jpg - (http://www.eggsquisit.com/Emu.html) - egg...or ..? ? >

http://www.jrcompton.com/photos/The_Birds/J/rio/_JR28237-emu-head.jpg
Emu — That (http://www.jrcompton.com/photos/The_Birds/J/birds_rio.html) Look

oceanwave
28-07-2007, 08:42 AM
You are askin' me - Where do i stand in this
http://www.galenfrysinger.ws/movies/gods_must_be_crazy_c.jpg..Matrix ?

ahh, good film!

oceanwave
28-07-2007, 08:48 AM
oneness...

...is, being in the,..

...moment...