Berlusconi puts 2,500 troops on streets of Italian

[adbasque]

Berlusconi puts 2,500 troops on streets of Italian cities to patrol alongside police

SOLDIERS are to be deployed in Italian cities as Silvio Berlusconi, the prime minister, cracks down on crime as part of his government's new domestic security package.
The troops – drawn from those who have served abroad – will patrol alongside regular state police and carabinieri paramilitary police.

They will be able to stop, search and identify suspects but will have no powers of arrest. Instead they must c
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all for support or take suspects to the nearest police station.

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http://news.scotsman.com/world/Berlusconi-puts-2500-troops-on.4187402.jp



http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,3537732,00.html

Now at home

Andrew Pelling's solution btw :rolleyes:

http://www.thisiscroydontoday.co.uk/politics/Pelling-Bring-army-combat-Croydon-knife-crime/article-416546-detail/article.html

Watch video

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7540585.stm

[alzee]

He won't be the last leader of an EU country to do it either :mad:

[lightgiver]

Whats up, is there not enough Italian cops?,maybe they need to clean up their own back yard first,if everyone's back yard was clean maybe there would be no crime,one can dream I suppose:D

[adbasque]

Whats up, is there not enough Italian cops?,maybe they need to clean up their own back yard first,if everyone's back yard was clean maybe there would be no crime,one can dream I suppose:D

Just excuses to bring in martial law, to get the population used to see armed soldiers on the streets, and to strike fear into the nations :) that's the plan

[adbasque]

He won't be the last leader of an EU country to do it either :mad:

Unfortunately he just one of the first, have you checked the other links?

They are calling for British troops the do the same in "Croydon" they are going easy, one town at the time. ;) devious ass***

[thenymph]

Berlusconi puts 2,500 troops on streets of Italian cities to patrol alongside police

SOLDIERS are to be deployed in Italian cities as Silvio Berlusconi, the prime minister, cracks down on crime as part of his government's new domestic security package.
The troops – drawn from those who have served abroad – will patrol alongside regular state police and carabinieri paramilitary police.

They will be able to stop, search and identify suspects but will have no powers of arrest. Instead they must c
ADVERTISEMENT
all for support or take suspects to the nearest police station.

Full Story

http://news.scotsman.com/world/Berlusconi-puts-2500-troops-on.4187402.jp



http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,3537732,00.html

Now at home

Andrew Pelling's solution btw :rolleyes:

http://www.thisiscroydontoday.co.uk/politics/Pelling-Bring-army-combat-Croydon-knife-crime/article-416546-detail/article.html

Watch video

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7540585.stm

I'm confused - it's good info - but isn't it old news ? The articles don't appear to be current ?

[adbasque]

I'm confused - it's good info - but isn't it old news ? The articles don't appear to be current ?

The italian one is old but the British one isn't and if it's old, some people haven't seen it, what's wrong with that?

I just thought to show that they are moving slowly towards a fascist regime.
:)
Andrew Pelling said it again apparently last week

[asha loka]

Pelling is - let's say - alternatively conceptualised as far as most of the population in the UK goes.

I don't think anyone is taking him seriously - if only for the obvious reason that the Army are useless at policing.

(Not that the police aren't also useless at policing. But shooting people at random isn't an improvement.)

[arty2000]

He won't be the last leader of an EU country to do it either :mad:

how true...their gettin ready to do more fema drills over here to include foreign troops...whatever floats their boat:)

[thenymph]

The italian one is old but the British one isn't and if it's old, some people haven't seen it, what's wrong with that?

I just thought to show that they are moving slowly towards a fascist regime.
:)
Andrew Pelling said it again apparently last week

It's a little misleading to put this in "Today's News" without a current link, that's all. All those news items are dated last year !

[lightgiver]

Just excuses to bring in martial law, to get the population used to see armed soldiers on the streets, and to strike fear into the nations :) that's the plan

Yes ,I agree,haven't they already had Italian troops on the streets not long back.

Also I was hearing faint rumours in the British MSM about British troops being deployed in the ghettos of Britain to tackle the gun and knife crime.

Yes, let everything get out of hand so they have a excuse then to deploy troops.

It appears to be going to plan.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49830

[adbasque]

It's a little misleading to put this in "Today's News" without a current link, that's all. All those news items are dated last year !
I know they were dated, it doesn't mean the problem has gone away my friend :)

Some people maybe haven't had a chance to see them, do you see any harm in that?

it's only a year old and besides as I said I heard it that last week A.Pelling asked again.

[adbasque]

Yes ,I agree,haven't they already had Italian troops on the streets not long back.

Also I was hearing faint rumours in the British MSM about British troops being deployed in the ghettos of Britain to tackle the gun and knife crime.

Yes, let everything get out of hand so they have a excuse then to deploy troops.

It appears to be going to plan.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49830

I am afraid it is while we are getting entertained and overwhelmed by so many trivial events

[lightgiver]

I am afraid it is while we are getting entertained and overwhelmed by so many trivial events

I agree,and they will always find new ways and methods.

TBH the majority have not got a clue what's going on underneath their very noses,I was watching today some underpaid premiership footy fans having to cue up with raffle tickets,and they were complaining having to do so,this is how easy it is for TPTB,the Romans had a name for it,bread and circus it was called back in the Colosseum days.

from Latin: panem et circenses) is a metaphor for handouts and petty amusements that politicians use to gain popular support, instead of gaining it through sound policy. The phrase is invoked not only to criticize politicians, but also to criticize their supporters for giving up their civic duty.

Aldous Huxley used the phrase in Brave New World Revisited as an example of one of the ideas he used as a theme in Brave New World.

The problem for Rome was not an unusually cruel personality trait harbored by the Roman plebs. It was instead an inability to solve underlying social and economic problems. Romans were forced to live under conditions of hardship. They were crowded together, could not find work, had trouble finding food, and had little hope of escape. The leadership was sitting on a powder keg, which, while never quite exploding, never disappeared either. Before the circuses the Roman masses found an outlet for their frustrations as members of rival gangs which sprang up throughout the city. Unemployed toughs roamed the streets hunting rival gangs. The authorities either would not or could not control things. When Claudius, one of the leaders, was killed in such a fight, his followers succeeded in burning down the senate house, where his body had been displayed. Augustus, if not able to totally solve the problem, did exercise enough authority to bring it under control. He outlawed many of the gangs and stationed troops in Rome itself to maintain order. He continued the practice of free grain distributions as well.

Perhaps there was a sense, among later politicians, that Augustus' measures were not enough. Something else was needed to take peoples' minds off of their problems. Let them work out their frustrations in the circus rather than on the streets of Rome, against each other. If the contests were barbaric, they served to limit the number of casualties suffered. Street-fighting would have exacted an even higher toll.

http://www.periclespress.com/Rome.html

same old emperors eh,just different outfits.;)

[adbasque]

I agree,and they will always find new ways and methods.

TBH the majority have not got a clue what's going on underneath their very noses,I was watching today some underpaid premiership footy fans having to cue up with raffle tickets,and they were complaining having to do so,this is how easy it is for TPTB,the Romans had a name for it,bread and circus it was called back in the Colosseum days.

from Latin: panem et circenses) is a metaphor for handouts and petty amusements that politicians use to gain popular support, instead of gaining it through sound policy. The phrase is invoked not only to criticize politicians, but also to criticize their supporters for giving up their civic duty.

Aldous Huxley used the phrase in Brave New World Revisited as an example of one of the ideas he used as a theme in Brave New World.

The problem for Rome was not an unusually cruel personality trait harbored by the Roman plebs. It was instead an inability to solve underlying social and economic problems. Romans were forced to live under conditions of hardship. They were crowded together, could not find work, had trouble finding food, and had little hope of escape. The leadership was sitting on a powder keg, which, while never quite exploding, never disappeared either. Before the circuses the Roman masses found an outlet for their frustrations as members of rival gangs which sprang up throughout the city. Unemployed toughs roamed the streets hunting rival gangs. The authorities either would not or could not control things. When Claudius, one of the leaders, was killed in such a fight, his followers succeeded in burning down the senate house, where his body had been displayed. Augustus, if not able to totally solve the problem, did exercise enough authority to bring it under control. He outlawed many of the gangs and stationed troops in Rome itself to maintain order. He continued the practice of free grain distributions as well.

Perhaps there was a sense, among later politicians, that Augustus' measures were not enough. Something else was needed to take peoples' minds off of their problems. Let them work out their frustrations in the circus rather than on the streets of Rome, against each other. If the contests were barbaric, they served to limit the number of casualties suffered. Street-fighting would have exacted an even higher toll.

http://www.periclespress.com/Rome.html

same old emperors eh,just different outfits.;)

You're absolutely right and everything fits like a glove
I am certain it's the same families still retain the power today.
Except today it's even more sinister than during the roman era, it's on a global scale and the new technology doesn't help, it would if we had the control over it, but unfortunately the control is in their hands as well :(
That's the big problem, and people are still asleep, I mean they haven't got a clue what's going on.
They are unhappy because their club didn't win, how sad is that? :rolleyes:
or maybe how fortunate to be that naive, less stress :rolleyes:

[ritchs]

Just excuses to bring in martial law, to get the population used to see armed soldiers on the streets, and to strike fear into the nations :) that's the plan


Yes, condition the public to accept troops on the street. But still, its a very long way till martial law. I wonder if the slugs that do this, just do it to show their masters "look what a good job I'm doing, eh" rather than achieving some real tactical objective. It's a big thing for them to show their masters but very far far away from actually doing. You can't control 6 billion people with a few hundred thousand men, even if they all have dogs and uzi s. Think about it, fancy weapons even, haarp, elf whatnot. Let them try, Bring it On!!! We'll put those uzis where the sun don't shine.

[pinkgrapefruit]

They will be able to stop, search and identify suspects but will have no powers of arrest. Instead they must call for support or take suspects to the nearest police station.

So no powers of arrest but seemingly the 'authority' to take suspects to the police station...

...I'd like to see that one argued out on the street!

I've noticed that this is one of several issues that the media are happy to report or rather happy to repeat the story that they are given.

At the moment we are awash with opinion on the government especially the BBC with their quite blatant anti-Labour stance and yet there is no opinion offered or debate hosted on sujects such as this one.

If the reason for soldiers on our streets is a shortage of police, then why do they have to patrol in full battle dress and a fuck off big automatic?

Mr Pelling added: "When people are being killed on the streets of Croydon we do really have to find something immediately to try and stop it."

I do hope that comment doesn't come back to haunt him!

[thenymph]

I know they were dated, it doesn't mean the problem has gone away my friend :)

Some people maybe haven't had a chance to see them, do you see any harm in that?

it's only a year old and besides as I said I heard it that last week A.Pelling asked again.

You missed my point about the title of the thread being in today's news, adbasque. But there's absolutely no harm in posting again and, as I hadn't seen the original articles, I'm glad you did, so thanks.

[fekdemasons]

Maybe he's deploying them to protect traffic wardens from sexual assault !

Ps. I've seen his cock

[januspolanski]

Unfortunately he just one of the first, have you checked the other links?

They are calling for British troops the do the same in "Croydon" they are going easy, one town at the time. ;) devious ass***

Yeah it wont be the army suddenly patrolling the streets, it will be gradual until it becomes the norm to see patrolling soldiers.

[mrmoney]

This is very old news. They've been on the streets since 2008.

[decim]

Yeah it wont be the army suddenly patrolling the streets, it will be gradual until it becomes the norm to see patrolling soldiers.

Who says they aren't already?

[lightgiver]

You're absolutely right and everything fits like a glove
I am certain it's the same families still retain the power today.
Except today it's even more sinister than during the roman era, it's on a global scale and the new technology doesn't help, it would if we had the control over it, but unfortunately the control is in their hands as well :(
That's the big problem, and people are still asleep, I mean they haven't got a clue what's going on.
They are unhappy because their club didn't win, how sad is that? :rolleyes:
or maybe how fortunate to be that naive, less stress :rolleyes:

It is definitely the same bloodlines retaining power,and yes a lot more sinister on a global scale.

The majority of the human race have always been asleep,bread and circus;)

[jesuitsdidit]

1 get the public used to the idea
2 get the boys in balaclavas to continue
the crime wave
3 then u can do wotever u want

its almost too simple..

[jesuitsdidit]

op






http://news.scotsman.com/world/Berlusconi-puts-2500-troops-on.4187402.jp


Berlusconi puts 2,500 troops on streets of Italian cities to patrol alongside police


Published Date: 16 June 2008
By Nick Pisa

SOLDIERS are to be deployed in Italian cities as Silvio Berlusconi, the prime minister, cracks down on crime as part of his government's new domestic security package.
The troops – drawn from those who have served abroad – will patrol alongside regular state police and carabinieri paramilitary police.

They will be able to stop, search and identify suspects but will have no powers of arrest. Instead they must call for support or take suspects to the nearest police station.

Defence minister Ignazio La Russa said: "We are talking about a contingent of 2,500 troops who will patrol, alongside ordinary police, in order to safeguard the security of citizens.

"The scheme will be initially for six months and then renewed for another six months as a one-off and that will be it.

"If it was possible to recruit and train 2,500 police officers immediately then I would be delighted not to use troops."

Opposition MPs and police unions did not share his enthusiasm with Antonio Di Pietro, of the Party of Values, saying: "Troops on the streets are only seen in places like Colombia against terrorists and armed insurrectionists. The idea of militarising cities gives an impression of insecurity and will affect tourism and the economy."

Mr Berlusconi came back to power two months ago after campaigning on a strong law and order manifesto.

The cities earmarked for troop patrols are Rome, Milan, Naples, Florence, Genoa, Bologna, Turin, Palermo, Bari and Venice.

[jesuitsdidit]

re above

op i assume u r aware
this article is almost exactly
1 year old??

i think u shd hav made this clear

another reason why posting the whole article
is a good idea..

explanation??

[adbasque]

This is very old news. They've been on the streets since 2008.

Ok, we know it's old, 2008 exactly a year old, so what?
the agenda still new, it's still going on

We still debate WWII we still debate even older events, and this is not old, the article might be old, but what if people didn't read it, not everyone is up to date as you, some people didn't have a chance to see this information.

I've had it twice now since I posted it,

YES THE NEWS IS OLD :D

[adbasque]

Yes ,I agree,haven't they already had Italian troops on the streets not long back.

Also I was hearing faint rumours in the British MSM about British troops being deployed in the ghettos of Britain to tackle the gun and knife crime.

Yes, let everything get out of hand so they have a excuse then to deploy troops.

It appears to be going to plan.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49830

Here in Britain they are probably trying to keep the lid on it, they are doing it in a remote places, like isolated small towns, in Scotland, some remote places in Wales perhaps few towns here in Britain.

Gradually before we know it, we will have Basra or Baghdad here

[adbasque]

1 get the public used to the idea
2 get the boys in balaclavas to continue
the crime wave
3 then u can do wotever u want

its almost too simple..

Absolutely man!

Of course, they were promoting violence through the media, screw few kids minds let them loose on the streets with knives, it didn't take long before it spread like wild fire.

And it could even be made up stories of a lot of stabbing taking place, I mean exageration.

There are many ways they can do that.

Let's take few examples
There are a lot of kids looked after by the "State" how do we know they are not subjected to some kind of brainwashing, we know there are various techniques to actually wipe out a person's mind, like a blank sheet and fill it again with whatever programme you want.

They used to do it a lot for assassins, "Expandable" ones, like for instance Mark David Chapman who killed John Lennon I am sure that's what they did to him.

Back to the topic:

Problem reaction solution again ;)