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danceswithbunnies
08-06-2009, 09:08 PM
http://www.creativespirit.net/henryreed/bookreviews/column2_9.htm
Have We Met the Anti-Christ?
Evil is good at making us more conscious. Meditate on evil and you delve into the limitations of being human. Explore evil and you wonder if there can be a force opposed to Creation or perhaps whether the origin of evil exist within the Creator itself. The story of Job certainly suggests that God can be in cahoots with evil. Then again, maybe evil is an illusion, a result of a limited way of looking at life.
I have learned from my students, however, that people easily become uncomfortable talking about evil, almost as if they sense the presence of some alien awareness eavesdropping on their conversation. "Shouldn't we surround ourselves with light before we talk about evil?" someone asks. So we say a prayer and surround ourselves with light to protect us from the evil one. Afterwards, I point to my own heart and ask, "could there be any evil in here? Does surrounding ourselves with light protect us from what's inside?" My question raises perceptibly the level of discomfort in the classroom. Now we are under the spell of evil.
Evil is good at creating a sense of magic. From the beginning, the ambiguity about whether evil originates outside ourselves or from within us has been part of its mystique. In these latter days, when the world's future seems to wait upon the revealing of the script secretly written by divine destiny (or perhaps our own choices), evil becomes a hot topic. According to Bernard McGinn, author of Anti-Christ: Two thousand years of the human fascination with evil (Harper Collins), the ultimate reason for the existence of evil is to remind us of the importance of our choices. It is a supreme paradox that even within a history that may be divinely governed, our own choices matter.
The author is immanently qualified to pass judgment upon the role of the embodiment of evil within the history of our spiritual imagination. He is the Naomi Shenstone Donnelley Professor of Historical Theology and the History of Christianity at the University of Chicago and editor of the 80-volume series, Classics of Western Spirituality. In this current work, he takes us on the journey of evil from Day One to the Last Day. It is a history of theological debate within the Judaeo-Christian tradition.
I was fascinated to learn of the origins of the Anti-Christ legend within Jewish history and of the important role the Essenes played by their portrayal, within the Qumran scrolls, of the followers of Belial. I learned the meaning of more technical terms (millenarianism, premillenarianism, apocalyptic eschatology, fundamentalist apocalypticism, post-tribulationist) than I ever imagined existed surrounding the role of evil in the destiny of history.
This history revolves around two important issues surrounding the Anti-Christ, about which McGinn attempts to set the record straight.
The first concerns the character of the Anti-Christ. It is not, as most imagine, someone who worships chaos and pain and blatantly inflicts these torments upon others (such as a Hitler or a Saddam Hussein). As dramatic as this image may be, the tyrant role is more a secondary aspect than the essence of the Anti-Christ. Primarily, the Anti-Christ is the perverter of good. It is the Deceiver. It is someone who appears to stand for good, but actually does bad in the name of good. McGinn points out that the projection of a false image, of worshipping image over substance, has quite powerful and sinister implications in our age of global electronic communications.
The second issue concerns the identity of the Anti-Christ. Many people find fascination in the anticipation of a specific historical figure who will gain international prominence and become the final adversary in a climactic battle. Here we have myth disguised in historical terms, a key dimension to apocalyptic thinking. The fundamental identity of the Anti-Christ, however, according to the bulk of theological history, is that it is an inner figure. That is, the Anti-Christ lives within each of us.
What is this aspect of ourselves which would oppose the Christ? McGinn offers as a definition of evil, "saying no to love." He concludes that the Anti-Christ is essentially a force of self-deception opposed to love. The best candidate for this attribute, he proposes, is our tendency to worship doctrine rather than to practice love. The sin of self is the self-importance that our ideas of truth can readily attain if we are not careful. The true Christ spirit is not a law that holds fast in all situations, but a unique creative response from love that is a step beyond predictability. The Anti-Christ can manifest widespread horror in the name of an "ism" or wound a person's soul through the application of an "ology."
In a time of chaos and rapid change, we are naturally more tempted to cling to a particular belief system. When we use that security blanket as a weapon to coerce someone to conform to our image of how things should be, we are enacting the Anti-Christ. If the results of this hurtful tendency enables us to see how we've missed the mark, and motivates us to return to the mystery of love, then evil has served some good.
http://www.amazon.com/Antichrist-Bernard-McGinn/dp/0231119771/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1244488046&sr=8-1
This is the lesson of the 20th century..people killing people, destroying the planet and sacrificing children and animals for some damn idea they have lodged in their heads...
danceswithbunnies
09-06-2009, 01:51 AM
More on the antichrist..
this looks fun:
http://www.antichrist.net/
The Antichrist Atheist Network!
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He that dwelleth above, trembles.
For what was once below, has risen.
The world shall know of The BEAST.
As The BEAST now rules THE WORLD.
And the spirit of Antichrist has moved out over the West, since 1861 and even before, just as was foretold by those of the old time. We behold the voices of many angels around the thrones of The Beasts, and of their puppets, our elders, the number of Beasts which now exceeds three thousand times two thousand. And as I look, I behold a Straw Man, The Antichrist, his name is Death, and Hell follows with him. Great power will be given unto The Antichrist on November fourth of the year two thousand and eight, to reign terror over the third part of the world, over the enemy of The Beasts, to kill with rocket and with bomb and with starvation and disease; all on behest of The Beasts, the master of puppets, who by way of deception, shalt do war. And those who confesseth in Jesus Christ, do in fact worship the very dragon which gave power unto The Beasts, for they too are like beasts, when they grovel at the feet of their masters, the ones thy God hath chosen to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth. Through trickery, sectarianism, shame and guilt, The Beasts with their dogs, the cursed children of Canaan, servants of servants, have gained great political, media and monetary domination over the West, to divide and rule, to silence the opposed, to weaken loyalties, to abolish dignity, kinship, culture and pride, to weaken the strong, to instill cowardice and guilt, and to causeth any and all that would not worship the image of The Beast to be shunned, to be cast out, or to be imprisoned for a time, even to be killed, no matter where upon the face of the earth they may stand. And The Beasts causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive their mark, so that no man might buy or sell, save for he that bears this mark, which is the name of The Beasts, the number of their name. And the reign of The Antichrist, empowered by The Beasts, shall begin on January twentieth of the year two thousand and nine, until the seven years of tribulation, plus one have passed, whereupon there is foretold a sign of the coming Heaven, great and marvelous, seven angels bringing the seven last plagues, as if upon a sea of glass, mingled with fire. Of them that hath finally gotten a victory over the deceivers, The Beasts, and over their dogs, and over their image, and over their mark, and over the number of their name, and over their control of the media, and over the dragon that gives them their great power; if only to stand at dusk and to see that great sea of glass, mingled with fire, and to hear the electric guitars of God.
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element
09-06-2009, 10:35 AM
What is this aspect of ourselves which would oppose the Christ? McGinn offers as a definition of evil, "saying no to love." He concludes that the Anti-Christ is essentially a force of self-deception opposed to love. The best candidate for this attribute, he proposes, is our tendency to worship doctrine rather than to practice love. The sin of self is the self-importance that our ideas of truth can readily attain if we are not careful. The true Christ spirit is not a law that holds fast in all situations, but a unique creative response from love that is a step beyond predictability. The Anti-Christ can manifest widespread horror in the name of an "ism" or wound a person's soul through the application of an "ology."
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danceswithbunnies
09-06-2009, 06:35 PM
Interpretation of Apocalypse of John:
http://books.google.com/books?id=JwEWAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=apocalypse+pryse
Page 125
Antichrist..is lower intellectual sphere of rationality (literalness) without spiritual insight or philosophical depth..
In other words literal fundamentalist religions, which play into fear.
The Antichrist teaches literalist interpretation of scripture..by their fruits you will know them.
What fruits have followed literalist christianity?
I don't see them healing people, making the lame walk the blind see, or walking on water.
they do not talk with spirits the way the early christians did, they perform no miracles and most of the time they are asking for money.
The letter killeth, the spirit giveth life..
Because the carnal mind [is] enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
Literalists cannot grasp the higher things
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It is however my opinion that the literalists have not only cut people off from their higher minds like the pharisees of old
(But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in [yourselves], neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.)
but have alienated people from their own feelings to such a degree that we have a society composed of people with SPLIT MINDS..not being rooted in their own bodies they can be blown about and manipulated by empire at will..most advertizers also use this to their advantage.
These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds [they are] without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
There is no root within themselves...our whole society is like this, manipulated to be precisely this..
danceswithbunnies
10-06-2009, 06:28 PM
The reason i am belaboring the point is not to be mean but out of concern.
I was caught up in the Fundie thing for a time and know how disempowering it is, and how open it may make you to predation.
Every single time i have gone back to christianity in particular, disaster has followed..usually the death of one of my pets.
Please those of you who are fundies, consider what i say.
There is a deeper meaning than the literal, there is a HEART centered meaning for all of us to live out not just read in a book.
The major religions are all serving someone and it is not humanity.
When you subscribe to one of the major religions, it is my thinking that you open yourself up to becoming food, having your energy tapped.
My husband doesn't believe in this, but after enough go arounds, i am beggining to believe that based on my experience....and i have had some real hair raisers.
The last time i had fallen back into christianity, and one of my beloved pets died this last december, i began to see him out of the corner of my eye...i starterd to have some seering revelations.
Revelations like every major religion is a trap...that the indigenous people all over the seven continents had had few beliefs which allowed them to interact directly with the world of spirit which overlaps ours.
Here is what i wrote to my mom about it
Here is what i am beggining to understand:
not from just reading but from personal experience...it is one thing to read it,
it is another thing to experience it.
1) we never die
2) we are "god"
3) spirit realms exist right beside ours.
Older cultures like the greeks used something called a psychomantium where people would see their loved ones in a darkened mirror and could talk with spirits on the other side...while people like the Celts who were less civilized lived with spirit everyday...and lived reincarnation.
The less civilized the closer to spirit because the less beliefs you hold.
Simple as that. This is why children can often see spirits...and why tribal cultures often can as well..not because they are "better" but because they have less mentally twisted beliefs about reality.
The Establishment don't want you to know this for yourself, because you are an economic unit.
The only value you have to the establishment is your ability to produce or consume.
Older people are valuable to them because they can get the government to tax everyone to pay for you to consume..THIS IS NOT THE WAY I SEE THINGS, THIS IS THEIR VIEW.
They put a price tag on everything...and expect you to do the same.
Which is precisely why our society is one of the most hideously ugly and vulgar cultures that has ever polluted the earth...it is also one of the furthest from spirit...as was the Roman Empire.
(one of the reasons that a religion like christianity flourished in the Roman Empire is because you have to be so far away from spirit to entertain such insane notions about spiritual matters eg that a loving god would murder his own son for your sins, or burn anyone in hell forever)
I am just trying to warn you to not fall into the trap of organized religion.
I understand how comforting having the whole belief system laid out for you in advance...but it is a trap.
Your heart (subconscious mind) is the battle field, and they want to keep it littered with FEAR...they want to consume your soul.
They do that through organized religion.
That is antichrist.
solarwindspirit
11-06-2009, 10:01 AM
Despite what your religion teaches you, despite what your culture and government teaches you I believe that humanity has been a long long time. These projections of aliens are representive of humanity perhaps in another era. We were here when the dinosours roamed the earth. There are those who would like to 'rule' in fear like an onion peel putting more layers upon layers upon your soul to keep you from seeing who you really are . . .but you can still break free from this energy. All soul connected with this planet. History has been forgotten from other eras and buried in some subconsious memory on earth. You see the brotherhood worshiping their past with symbolisms and a close net of associations. But there is also the wounded psyche of the mind buried in humanity. You can look back and mayan culture perhaps who after a cataclysmic built a new. Building upon traditions and rituals of what they knew. Again today you see the same. What are they building? The skulls lining their ancient mayan pyramids represent their sacrifices. Immitating and repeating the same but not learning from it. . .much like the reptilian mind that sees only in pictures.
From what I understand there was a time on earth when technology was at it's height and there was a use of spaceships weapons like those of today and other advanced inventions. Many actual people were sacrificed in the temples along with animals vegetation etc. . .to their 'god' or 'baal' in the making of necessary gases for crystals and lasers and such. The top of the pyramid shown like a beacon at night. This was their culture and the law of one. Yes, evil was magica then. And someone on a lower vibrational energy literally does eat
through the etheral lining through like a vampire.
If it's the breaking down of the old to rebuild for the new so let it be.
This time it will be one with those who are in right minded relationship to the creator. I insist on it. Yes, you brotherhood of the snake.
Hope you see this. Because you have forgotten the foundation the builder rejected.
solarwindspirit
11-06-2009, 10:08 AM
Just breaking through to the illusion. Power and money are illusatory. Stop feeding the dragon. It has been slained. And become one with the earth again
kasalt
11-06-2009, 05:26 PM
Hi DWB, here are some quotes from Thomas Jefferson that you may find interesting in relation to the topic of this thread:
"Christianity...(has become) the most perverted system that ever shone on man. ...Rogueries, absurdities and untruths were perpetrated upon the teachings of Jesus by a large band of dupes and importers led by Paul, the first great corrupter of the teaching of Jesus."
"The clergy converted the simple teachings of Jesus into an engine for enslaving mankind and adulterated by artificial constructions into a contrivance to filch wealth and power to themselves...these clergy, in fact, constitute the real Anti-Christ."
Source: http://www.earlyamericanhistory.net/quotes.htm
luciferhorus
11-06-2009, 07:30 PM
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The Antichrist.
Lucifer
Often what is prophesied by our ancestors is later 'invoked' by human will.
The 'AntiChrist' is a particular figure depicted in John's revelation who seeks to take over the world militarily and economically; he is eventually defeated in an apocalyptic war, and a 1000 year agricultural revolution takes place where human suffering is no more.
The Muslims have their own version of this where the Madhi (a warrior Messiah equivalent) defeats the Ad Dijjal (anti-Christ equivalent).
Similarly in Messianic Judaism.
These predictions will and must come to pass; there may be divine providence, but the future is not 100% predetermined; the fulfillment of prophecy will not happen automatically by some miracle; it will require the application of militant apocalyptic human will and the magickal invocation (personification) of the apocalyptic characters.
The die has been cast. The stage is set.
It is simply inconceivable that the Capitalist and military elites will simply surrender their kingdom; on the contrary they prepare for apocalyptic war and martial law. Thus I predict the certainty of apocalyptic resistance.
Lux
http://www.bohemiangothic.com/Gothicimages/Majors210/BG_Judgement.jpg
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The Revelation of John: an Israeli Communist perspective.
Lucifer
Aeon of Lucifer 2009
Morning Star.
John’s revelation would be quite familiar to those who have had experiences with shamanic substances which induce visions; you will find numerous shamanic trip reports on erowid.org.
Although such visions are common and there is often a message in such visions; it is much like a 'lucid dream' which should be taken too literally.
If we have a dream where for example, we are fighting a 7 headed beast, this dream may have an important message for us; but if we expect to see a 7 headed beast in real life, we will be disappointed and will probably lose the real 'meaning of the dream.
http://www.songsouponsea.com/Promenade/magus.jpg
The point of prophecy is not to predict the future, but to change the future.
I often speak in a prophetical manner of the wars and revolutions to come in the future; I am not merely 'predicting' such things; I am seeking to evoke such prophecies to life.
The Anti-Messiah
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There is an Anti-Messiah who seeks total financial control over the world (that none may buy or sell without his permission or mark). He has the power to cast fire down from the sky.
Militant Resistance; the armies of heaven; the righteous of Israel.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_usIX2485mOk/SdOHpZ223HI/AAAAAAAAB4E/-JVFgRy41Gs/s320/PrinceSwords.jpg
This constitutes
1: The Seven Angels
2: The 144,000 righteous of Israel; the Revolutionary Vanguard.
3: The armies of the 200 million.
http://xs116.xs.to/xs116/07234/thoth_tower.jpg
Nuclear War. The total nuclear destruction of Rome
The attacks of the 7 angels could 'only' be carried out using non-conventional weapons. The king of Capitalism has built his kingdom surrounded by giant weapons dumps (nuclear power stations); these are the Achilles' Heel of the Capitalists; once these are detonated in the forthcoming nuclear guerrilla war; the economic command and control centres of the capitalists shall be no more; Capitalism shall implode on itself; currencies will collapse, economies will collapse; the old shall eat their young; their kings will crawl into their caves and beg their Capitalist god for death.
Frankly the only way to defeat the Capitalists is by nuclear guerrilla war. The idea of 7 people bringing down Capitalism could only be achieved in such a manner. To destroy Rome and Vatican City in the blink of an eye as depicted by John is now possible.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_usIX2485mOk/SdJu96hbFYI/AAAAAAAAB20/NlxB-6ipnJg/s320/Death.jpg
The defeat of the Anti-Messiah
Eventually with his kingdom in ruins, he and his armies are ultimately defeated and the birds of the air eat their flesh; he is captured and burnt.
http://imagecache.allposters.com/images/pic/MEPOD/10007329~Tarot-20-Le-Jugement-The-Judgment-Posters.jpg
Day of Judgement.
There is of course a holocaust of the enemies of the Communists; the wheat (the anti-Capitalists) are separated from the chaff and the chaff cast into the fire.
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New Jerusalem .City of Light. Zion. 'Lebensraum' for the liberated slaves.
The New Jerusalem is described as a giant 'square' city whose city walls run for about 1200 miles; one side of the wall alone would be the distance between Glasgow and London; thus it is more what we would refer to as a 'nation' than a city.
It will be an illuminated transparent City where there is no Temple, no night or day, where nothing is bought or sold and where sickness and human suffering have passed away. This will of course require electricity and advanced medical technology; this is all quite possible.
A City without a Temple where nothing is bought or sold is the Communist agenda; 'not' the agenda of Capitalist Christians.
The 1000 Year Agricultural Revolution.
Weapons are melted down and turned into agricultural implements.
Then shall begin the 1000 Year agricultural revolution. There shall be peace for a 1000 years.
All this is the agenda of every Israeli Communist; it is we who are the vanguard of Revolution; Christian Capitalism is simply a mockery of the anti-Capitalist teachings of Jesus.
Long have the Vanguard of Revolution been speaking to all peoples and nations from the sky, judging the living and the dead; forewarning of the apocalypse to come.
Great and Terrible and Dreadful and Wrathful shall be the day of Judgement.
Like a thief in the night, on the clouds of heaven, in a moment when expected least, Capitalism's kingdom shall turn to dust. It will not be a miracle.
Propaganda is the First Stage of War.
Physics is War.
Love and Light
Lux
Babylon shall Fall.
The 1000 Year Revolution of Light.
Fire, plague and poisoned waters.
No mercy on they who deserve none.
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To be GOVERNED is to be watched, inspected, spied upon, directed, law-driven, numbered, regulated, enrolled, indoctrinated, preached at, controlled, checked, estimated, valued, censured, commanded, by creatures who have neither the right nor the wisdom nor the virtue to do so. To be GOVERNED is to be at every operation, at every transaction noted, registered, counted, taxed, stamped, measured, numbered, assessed, licensed, authorized, admonished, prevented, forbidden, reformed, corrected, punished. It is, under pretext of public utility, and in the name of the general interest, to be place[d] under contribution, drilled, fleeced, exploited, monopolized, extorted from, squeezed, hoaxed, robbed; then, at the slightest resistance, the first word of complaint, to be repressed, fined, vilified, harassed, hunted down, abused, clubbed, disarmed, bound, choked, imprisoned, judged, condemned, shot, deported, sacrificed, sold, betrayed; and to crown all, mocked, ridiculed, derided, outraged, dishonoured. That is government; that is its justice; that is its morality. P.-J. Proudhon, General Idea of the Revolution in the Nineteenth Century
mikel84
12-06-2009, 07:48 AM
satan doesnt exist
neither does the antichrist but there is a description of many evil people that are in the bible that are similar to those we see today like false prophets and obama