Obama - The Egyptian King

[justin stephens]

Obama - Egyptian King (http://www.indigogen.com/2009/06/obama/)

Hi people, just posted a new item on Obama and the links to Akhenaten. It looks at some other aspects and evidence based on the info that Freeman first found.

Cheers

Justin

[dedicate]

Couple of things that might be wanted to ask/think about.--

One is, Let's assume that it is in the power of the Lords of the World to clone a 4,000 year old Egyptian King from a found mummy. What makes you believe the clone would have the same spirit at the original? What makes you believe the clone will carry on the same agenda, ie promoting Egyptian Mythologies, Cultures and Religion?

For example.. Say I cloned Ghandi. I would have someone that looks like Ghadhi, and even smells and tastes like Ghandi. But would I have Ghandi?

You did not address this question, which, to me, puts the entire premise and theory as not being all that well thought out.

[justin stephens]

Im not sure that he does... and as I stated hes just a puppet. But I see it as a more of a ritualistic thing.

But then again, how are we to know that Akhenatens soul hasnt been waiting?
Especially when time is just a perception in this reality.

It has been thought out. But I have just brought pieces together for you to make of it as you will.

As I stated... "a false flag 'rebirth' "

[dedicate]

Still a lot of questions. No? Now, not only do I have to just accept the idea of a cloned 4,000 year old mummy, but that there is ritual importance and possibly Akhenatens has been "waiting" to embody the clone.

Akhenatens has been "waiting" 4,000 years. For what? Why bother? Not much better to do with his time in the netherworlds, eh? Wait's 4,000 years to embody as Obama? And as a puppet? Why in the hell would anyone want to do that? Akhenaten was on par with Moses.. he would not embody as Obama.

Then, what if they made another clone? Who would embody that?

Well thought out ideas? When was he cloned? When was the family cloned? How can you be sure of any of it? Why do you bring up the mysterious origins of Obama, if he was born to a woman and not in a dish? When a person is cloned are they cloned as a baby/embryyo, or are they cloned in the age the cell was at the time? etc. etc..

I may as well read a comic book. Do you read comic books? I'm asking. Because if you do read comics, then it is obvious where you get your ideas. Of course, everything you are saying could be true,,, but then if you knew these things were true, you would have answers and your essay would not illicit so many inponderables.

There,, I've made of it what I will. -- fabrication of an imaginative mind. Interesting in concept. Interesting story-line. Good comic book story, but not much reality based. Not much reality I can see.

Thanks for the post.

P.S. The similar looks or appearances of the Obama family to the Akhenatens family is a thin thread to base something like this on. Those statues never really look like anyone in particular,,, and there is doubt as to who or what those statues were even made to represent. Or what Akhenatens ever really looked like, did or said.

[justin stephens]

You dont have to accept any of these points. Especially the 'possibilities' highlighted in this thread and not the post itself.

I dont think its for either of us to discredit the current level of the cloning abilities behind the scenes. I think with a small amount of research that you can see science is waaayyy ahead of what we see in mainstream science.

I wasn't claiming he was waiting, I said its possible no? But then thats not really my point. My whole post is based around a false flag rebirth.
ie. cloning the shell and portraying him to be the rebirth, but not in direct sight. Just like all the ritualistic events in hollywood.

And no I dont read comic books. But I understand the manipulation involved with those stories just as with the hollywood movies.

I suggest you research into the occult, the practices that goes on. Research Tsarion and Freemans work on the symbology and the ritualistic behavior of these world leaders and powers that be, also the strive to open the stargate.

All it takes is an open mind and a deeper understanding of the charade thats being played out before you.

Can I ask you where our gold reserves have gone? Sold to the rothschilds right? But why, what have they done with it?

This all ties in...

[dedicate]

"You dont have to accept any of these points" -- Well, you brought it up.

"I dont think its for either of us to discredit the current level of the cloning abilities behind the scenes. I think with a small amount of research that you can see science is waaayyy ahead of what we see in mainstream science." --Yes. What level of advancement? Good question.
Then you say, "clone" and "cloning".. and I'm not sure what YOU are talking about. The media uses the word "clone" when an egg is artificially firtilized. You say, "Obama is a clone". What do you mean by "clone"? Baby? Baby in a womb? Baby outside a womb? Complete Persons? You didn't say.

"possible no?" -- anything is possible. Then... it is understood that a computer can not generate random #'s. But is it possible? Yes? It is impossible, and it is possible? Yes? No?


"I suggest you research into the occult, the practices that goes on. Research Tsarion and Freemans work on the symbology and the ritualistic behavior of these world leaders and powers that be, also the strive to open the stargate" -- What makes you think I haven't? What do you mean by Occult? Blavatsky maybe? Kabala? Astrology? Revelation? Numerology? Channelling? None of those? Then UFO's, Cryptozoology? Pyramidology? Edgar CAyce?

Also, You spend enough time on this board and one does become somewhat familiar with Tsarion and Freeman. Those ideas. One thing we like to ask of those idea makers is "Why do the Illuminati practice religion if religion was created by them to make us slaves?". They wouldn't create a false system and then use the system themselves.-- but apparently they do practice a religion, or religions.

[justin stephens]

But clearly the religions that have been used to enslave are twisted versions on the core belief. Humans have been enslaved by this and the "Illuminatii' Illuminated ones have the knowlege that has been kept from us.

Look at bohemian grove. In the case that was exposed by Alex Jones, they used a burning effigy. They went through the ritual but in a false sense.
I dont doubt that the place is used for a more real situation.

But as we can see from that case. A ritual can be carried out in a false state.

Im not claiming to be all knowledgeable in this ritualistic practice but I can put pieces together based on other peoples research, knowledge and experiences.

The thing is, your picking at the areas that I cannot prove yet. But then it seems just just out to dismiss regardless. I have put down the links that are there so far, and like I said its pretty uncanny. But then generally with an open mind you wouldnt slate something that is so new.

You only have to watch the media hype surrounding this. I planned to write that post days ago before I even saw the events from the Egypt tour and so that just added to it all.

[dedicate]

"But clearly the religions that have been used to enslave are twisted versions on the core belief. Humans have been enslaved by this and the 'Illuminatii' Illuminated ones have the knowlege that has been kept from us" ---

Yes. I would say religions have been used to control us. And I would say there is knowlege kept from us.

So, what is that knowledge that has been kept from us? Maybe they have kept from us that relgion is a good thing? That religion rightly practiced and correctly understood could help transform the world to a better place? That there is something to the religions already in place, but misunderstood?

So again,, what is the knowledge being kept from us? Do you know? An analogy might be taken from the world of Medicine. Anyone who has spent more than a couple years studying the Conspiracy Theory of History and Current Events will see all disease can be easily cured and healed and for a fraction of the dollars now spent on medicine.-- economically, naturally, easily. Has religion been subverted the same as Medicine?


Ritual -- No false ritual at Bohemian Grove. Even if they did not actually sacrifice a human,, the ritual was still important. Rituals are meant to convey the symbol to the subconscious via ACTION in order to bring about a desired end.


So .. what are you saying? Again. YOu are saying Obama was cloned from an ancient mummy DNA and prop'd up as President as part of the Ritualization of the Civilization, NWO, Egyptian/Babylonian Empire reality made manefest Globally? Something like that. Well that might be going on. But do you really believe Obama is a clone?

[justin stephens]

No false ritual at bohemian grove... that was exactly my point. Its false from the fact that it wasnt a live person being sacrificed. But the ritual is still being played out.

And that is exactly my point regarding this Obama/Akhenaten ritualistic show.

I dont believe anything, but I think its possible that he is a clone yes. Hence the reason for me laying down the information on my blog. Its a collection on information which has links.

Its to early to make any sure claims, but there is some seriously interesting things going down and I think this needs to be shared.
If not then these actions will go unnoticed and they will be left to play the game as they wish.

[dedicate]

OK. Then you are saying it "looks as if this might be true." and pointing out certain things that give credance to theory. For some reason, I didn't get that impression, and it may just have been my person prejudice against the idea of cloning the 4,000 year old monotheist.

Well good. All in all, you seem to be on the right track. And who knows, there might be something to these cloning legends sometimes mentioned on these boards. I'm not going to totally discount it.

Did you here the theory that a lot of News Reels today are manufactured in laboratories? Even battles and explosions? Sometimes real data mixed with morphed and CGI to give the impression wanted? That's scary enough. Then when you think they might be presenting Presedential media via holographic images of Bush and Obama.. Whoh!

New World Order is Global Babylon! That's for sure!

[justin stephens]

haha who knows these days.
take the moon landing for instance, and that was how long ago?!

[dedicate]

40 years. Something fishy with those landings. Why don't people in the mainstream ask, "Why haven't we gone back there? Why couldn't we at least have a small base on the moon?"

[justin stephens]

Yeh exactly. Wouldnt surprise me if there was some kind of setup on the moon. But then maybe not as there might be no need.

Maybe the whole thing was to cover up what was on that rocket.... gold perhaps? Id really love to know what is being done with all the reserves!