RFID at Work

[hagbard_celine]

I've been issued with an RFID card at work for clocking.

Up till now we've been using the kind of cards I'm sure most of you are familiar with: normal cards that you put in a clock machine and the machine prints the time you do it on the card. This has now been replaced with a plastic card that you hold up to a device on the wall. It has no visible scanner or reader and operates by signaling the RFID chip in the card.

It bothers me, but then again it's impossible to avoid using these things nowadays. Every bank card now contains a similar chip, as do driving licenses, bus-passes and most shop labels.

[eternal_spirit]

Yes I agree it's kind of spooky but it could be worse check this post. This was on Yahoo news yesterday.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6625

[hagbard_celine]

Yes I agree it's kind of spooky but it could be worse check this post. This was on Yahoo news yesterday.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6625

Indeed! :eek: Let's hope it doesn't give them ideas!

[alpha]

ive just opened up a new bank account and have been told that i didnt need to show any id because i am apparently "electronicly identifiable" wot does that mean? ive looked on google and it mainly talks about animals! im quite freaked by it cause i dont know how or why this has happened!!!!:confused::confused::confused:

[lookfar]

ive just opened up a new bank account and have been told that i didnt need to show any id because i am apparently "electronicly identifiable" wot does that mean? ive looked on google and it mainly talks about animals! im quite freaked by it cause i dont know how or why this has happened!!!!:confused::confused::confused:

Hi alpha

OMG that's scary!! Did you open a new account with a different bank? I know they usually ask you details from your password etc, but sometimes that still involves showing something with your address or signature on???:confused: Hmmm, I wasn't aware that they shared your password details with other companies, but perhaps they do???

[hagbard_celine]

ive just opened up a new bank account and have been told that i didnt need to show any id because i am apparently "electronicly identifiable" wot does that mean? ive looked on google and it mainly talks about animals! im quite freaked by it cause i dont know how or why this has happened!!!!:confused::confused::confused:

:eek::eek::eek: I'd give Derrel Sims a call! He removes alien implants!

[alpha]

in the week i was asked to bring in my drivers licence as proof of id and when i offered it she said u might not need it as she put my details in she said its ok ur electronicly identifiable. i said wots that mean and she said dont worry its a good thing!!!! i was too freaked to ask any more but its really been bothering me. who is derrel sims?:confused:

[cosmicwink]

in the week i was asked to bring in my drivers licence as proof of id and when i offered it she said u might not need it as she put my details in she said its ok ur electronicly identifiable. i said wots that mean and she said dont worry its a good thing!!!! i was too freaked to ask any more but its really been bothering me. who is derrel sims?:confused:

I think I would be freaked out too if it happened to me, but I would want to put my mind at rest and be very clear what was meant by "electronically identifiable" I would go back to the bank and demand an explanation! Might be unpleasant, but at least I would know where I stand...

If you are electronically tagged in any way, surely to be identified you would need to be scanned in some way... and from your story it is unclear how that was done? which is another interesting question here.

A new generation of RFID tags the size of dust particles have been introduced by Hitachi of late, they are the size of a dust particle and can be inhaled ingested or injected. If inhaled or ingested they will embed in the soft tissue of our inners. However the scanners of those tags need to be not more then 25 cm away from the tags to able to read them...

Visit this site for full article and pictures
http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/Science-Fiction-News.asp?NewsNum=939

" The world's smallest and thinnest RFID tags were introduced recently by Hitachi. Tiny miracles of miniaturization, these RFID chips (Radio Frequency IDentification chips) measure just 0.05 x 0.05 millimeters.

The previous record-holder, the Hitachi mu-chip, is just 0.4 x 0.4 millimeters. Take a look at the size of the mu-chip RFID tag on a human fingertip. http://www.hitachi.co.jp/Prod/mu-chip/index.html...

... These devices could also be used to identify and track people. For example, suppose you participated in some sort of protest or other organized activity. If police agencies sprinkled these tags around, every individual could be tracked and later identified at leisure, with powerful enough tag scanners...."

I became aware of this item as it was mentioned in a radio interview with Hildegarde Staninger PH.D talking about Morgellons, a new disease linked to chem trails.

http://www.lvitv.com/OutThereTV/playflash.php?v_id=264&state=flash

Morgellons disease - Imagine your body pocked by erupting sores, the sensation of little bugs crawling just below the surface of your flesh, and worst of all, mysterious, hideous looking fibers sprouting from your skin. It may sound like a scene from a science fiction movie, but a growing legion of Americans, sixty thousand of them, now suffer from this condition.

[nickatnoon61]

I've been issued with an RFID card at work for clocking.

Up till now we've been using the kind of cards I'm sure most of you are familiar with: normal cards that you put in a clock machine and the machine prints the time you do it on the card. This has now been replaced with a plastic card that you hold up to a device on the wall. It has no visible scanner or reader and operates by signaling the RFID chip in the card.

It bothers me, but then again it's impossible to avoid using these things nowadays. Every bank card now contains a similar chip, as do driving licenses, bus-passes and most shop labels.

"It bothers me, but then again it's impossible to avoid using these things nowadays "

This is a copout Hagbard! Nothing is impossible! This is how they bring in TOTALITARIANISM! One drop at a time! You are already accepting it!

[hagbard_celine]

"It bothers me, but then again it's impossible to avoid using these things nowadays "

This is a copout Hagbard! Nothing is impossible! This is how they bring in TOTALITARIANISM! One drop at a time! You are already accepting it!


Maybe that's why I sat back and let the school fingerprint my daughter.

Maybe that's why I rushed out to get the first biometric passport.

:rolleyes:

I was not suggesting that we give up and just go along with it. I was saying that the system is trying to make it necessary to function in society. Sorry if I wasn't clear enough.

[soglad]

I've realized that if I participate in today's system I'll be snared in, and when the time comes to break away I'll find it really hard, so I'm trying to live my life without these things, you guys should too!

I mean you can't possibly see anything GOOD out of all this?

Be the change you want to see in the world...

[hagbard_celine]

I've realized that if I participate in today's system I'll be snared in, and when the time comes to break away I'll find it really hard, so I'm trying to live my life without these things, you guys should too!

I mean you can't possibly see anything GOOD out of all this?

Be the change you want to see in the world...

Yes, there are many ways to do this. Refuse to cooperate with Big Brother. Encourage people at work to set up a provisional workers cooperative, so that when the oportunity comes to establish a real one you'll be ready.

[auron]

Encourage people at work
Could you please explain what that word means? :D

[soglad]

Could you please explain what that word means? :D

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

It's ok Auron......see what you've done hagbard_celine? You've gone and mentioned the "W" word to Auron! You know how he's so sensitive to that!

For shame! :D

I'm also sensitive to that word too, so you can apologize to BOTH of us! hehe

:D

[auron]

Yes, I'm always getting lectures from others, telling me that they "work", and "their taxes are paying for me".

To which i respond " Well, thank you very much! "

[hagbard_celine]

WORK WORK WORK!:mad:

Only kidding, I'm sorry.:(

I've got nothing against anyone who doesn't work. Work usually means humiliation and exploitation in this sick society. I don't see why someone should be obliged to work under those circumstances.

Stay on the dole if you like; I don't blame you.

I'm paid by the govt to shop-window the pharmaeutical cartels and keep the sickness industry going. Auron and Soglad paid by the govt to lay in bed all day and get drunk. Really you're more noble than I am.

[soglad]

WORK WORK WORK!:mad:

Only kidding, I'm sorry.:(

I've got nothing against anyone who doesn't work. Work usually means humiliation and exploitation in this sick society. I don't see why someone should be obliged to work under those circumstances.

Stay on the dole if you like; I don't blame you.

I'm paid by the govt to shop-window the pharmaeutical cartels and keep the sickness industry going. Auron and Soglad paid by the govt to lay in bed all day and get drunk. Really you're more noble than I am.

Well, as a matter of fact I don't drink (and I smoke cannabis for about a month/two weeks at a go every two months or so, makes it better that way), or stay in bed all day. I get up early (I only get about 5-6 hours sleep a day) spend my days playing music on my guitar and talking to beautiful people like yourself hagbard_celine and Auron among many others.

I spend my dole money on musical orientated things, so people say to me that I'm wasting their "hard earned money" (fucking 1p a week or something!) when one day they'll probably be loving my music.....plus, what better way can you think of getting back at the government than taking their money? ;)

I know I can't have the dole forever, but I'm going to sponge it so I can get solid foundation musically, then fly, and I'll be thankful...

I already have a job, to be me, love and be loved. No warehouse or office can supply me with that. No thanks.

Dav.

[auron]

Same here mate! :D

In all seriousness though, I am actually going to be starting a job within the next couple of weeks. I am going to save up a shitload of cash, so i can get off this godforsaken island once and for all!! :)

[soglad]

What type of job are you looking at?

[auron]

I'm going to get some warehouse type thing. I've done it many times before, and it's a piece of piss. :)

[hagbard_celine]

Good luck to you both, Auron and Soglad. :)

A job has to be something you enjoy and fullfiulls you and gives your life purpose. So many jobs these days are the opposite of that. They're chores which people do because they think they have to, where they get bullied and degraded. Well it keeps them "busy busy busy, back on the farm with the other animals!":mad:

And there's no freedom with promotion either. Well-paid executive jobs can be equally dehumanaizing, more so if anything. Did you see "The Apprentice"? It almost made me sick to see those poor, pathetic applicants kiss Alan Sugar's arse and prostrate themselves in that way. "Please, Sir alan. Hire me!" It would be truly pitiful even if it wasn't put on TV for our sadistic enjoyment. High profile executives don't have the same security, job protection laws and rights as the workforce. Instances of bullying are widespread. Do you remember that banker girl whose colleagues used to have bets over who could make her cry first?

[soglad]

Nice one mate! I hope eveything works out for you and your job which I'm guessing you don't like will be bad water under the bridge and you'll find a better more fulfilling lifestyle!

I dig ya style, man! :D

[auron]

I can easily do this. When I'm in one of these places, i can meditate whilst working. The day will just fly by. :D

[adzboarder]

ive just opened up a new bank account and have been told that i didnt need to show any id because i am apparently "electronicly identifiable" wot does that mean? ive looked on google and it mainly talks about animals! im quite freaked by it cause i dont know how or why this has happened!!!!:confused::confused::confused:

What bank was this? Just so I know who to avoid...

[alpha]

it was lloyds tsb and im gonna go find out exactly what electronically identifiable means. as soon as i find out i will post.:(

[auron]

TSB eh? That's the bank I'm with! :eek:

[alpha]

i phoned yesterday to find out about it and the lady i spoke to said she had come across it before and that she thought it was something to do with the poll tax and information like that that can verify who you are and where you live. as she couldnt give me a definative answer she said she would get back to me next week with more information. ill let u know how i get on.

[soglad]

Coolio, keep us updated.

[julieray]

This is old but I thought it worth a mention, as I have only just found this today.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3697940.stm

Barcelona clubbers get chipped

BBC Science producer Simon Morton goes clubbing in Barcelona with a microchip implanted in his arm to pay for drinks.

Having the chip inserted was a breeze
Imagine having a glass capsule measuring 1.3mm by 1mm, about the size of a large grain of rice injected under your skin.

Implanting microchips that emit a Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) into animals has been common practice in many countries around the world, with some looking to make it a legal requirement for domestic pet owners.

The idea of having my very own microchip implanted in my body appealed. I have always been an early adopter, so why not.

Last week I headed for the bright lights of the Catalan city of Barcelona to enter the exclusive VIP Baja Beach Club.

The night club offers its VIP clients the opportunity to have a syringe-injected microchip implanted in their upper arms that not only gives them special access to VIP lounges, but also acts as a debit account from which they can pay for drinks.

This sort of thing is handy for a beach club where bikinis and board shorts are the uniform and carrying a wallet or purse is really not practical.

Thumping heart

I met the owner of the club, Conrad Chase, who had come up with the idea when trying to develop the ultimate in membership cards and was the first person implanted with the capsule, made by VeriChip Corporation.


Nurse Laia held a rather large needle
With a waiver in his hand Conrad asked me to sign my life away, confirming that if I wanted the chip removed it was my responsibility.

Four aspiring VIP members sat quietly sipping their beverages as the nurse Laia began preparing the surgical materials.

Like a scene from a sci-fi movie, latex gloves and syringes were laid out on the table as the DJ played loud dance tunes that made my heart thump, or was it just fear?

Questions were going through my mind. Would it hurt? What are the risks? What if I want to get it out?

I ordered another drink.

Comfortably numb

Laia started by disinfecting my upper arm and then administered a local anaesthetic to numb the area where the chip would be implanted.

With the large needle in her hand, she tested the zone which made me flinch and led to another dose of the anaesthetic.


The chip is contained in a tiny glass capsule
With a numb arm, Laia held up the rather large needle containing the microchip and inserted it beneath the layer of skin and fat on my arm.

She pressed the injector and it was in - my very own 10 digit number safely located in my body.

The chip is made of glass and is inert so there is no risk of it reacting with my body.

It sits dormant under the skin sending out a very low range radio frequency so it will not set off airport security systems.

The chip responds to a signal when a scanner is held near it and supplies its own unique ID number.

The number can then be linked to a database that is linked to other data, at the Baja beach club it make charges to a customers account.

If I want to leave the club then I can have it surgically removed - a pretty simple procedure similar to having it put in.

Now, the question of did it hurt. Having the chip inserted was a breeze, no real pain to report of.

The real pain was the sore head the following day after a night on an open bar tab.

You can hear more about Simon's experiences on the BBC World Service programme Go Digital


It does make you wonder what they will try next in order to get people on board with this. Quite frightening really.
Love and light
Julie xxxx:)

[soglad]

Yeah, yeah. First they get the stupid drunk people, typical :P

[julieray]

Yeah, yeah. First they get the stupid drunk people, typical :P

I agree, then the defenceless babies.

This is Rael's comment from the Raelite movement;

Rael's comment : this can replace soon passports and ID cards...But of
course criminals will be able to program and implant counterfeit
chips... nothing is 100 % safe ...may be future tech linked with
satellite will signal when the original chip is removed ? ...these
chips may also be implanted at birth which would make babies safer
... only our genetic code is safe ...we can imagine future DNA
readers just reading our ID by checking a bit of our skin... taken in
random parts because we can also have counterfeit genetic code
implants on or arms using cloned spots ...

He thinks that it would make babies safer!!!! Safer from what exactly???
He is the prophet by the way who believes that we have been cloned by another super humanoid race. I was inclined to believe in this but then I read that they don't believe in God and that when you are dead, you are dead because there is no life after death. Therefore they are actively encouraging people to sign up to be cloned in order to live forever. All pretty disturbing stuff - I seriously have doubts about this movement and wouldn't be surprised if they too are working for the Illuminati agenda.

Love and light
Julie
xxx:)

[hagbard_celine]

This is old but I thought it worth a mention, as I have only just found this today.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3697940.stm

Barcelona clubbers get chipped



It was Chris Everard, in Spiritworld, who warned us about how we're more vulnerable to psychic attack when we're drunk. With the chip inserted when we've had a few it will be easy for it to upload its psychotronic information into our brains. The "firewall" in the brain is weakened by alcohol.

[nickatnoon61]

It was Chris Everard, in Spiritworld, who warned us about how we're more vulnerable to psychic attack when we're drunk. With the chip inserted when we've had a few it will be easy for it to upload its psychotronic information into our brains. The "firewall" in the brain is weakened by alcohol.

Thanx Haggie!!! I'll drink to that!!!! hic :eek:

[hagbard_celine]

Thanx Haggie!!! I'll drink to that!!!! hic :eek:

:D

It'll take more than that to keep me away from my beer! I'll take the risk; come and get me, Mojo's!:mad:

[nickatnoon61]

:D

It'll take more than that to keep me away from my beer! I'll take the risk; come and get me, Mojo's!:mad:

Yes, it is one of my weaknesses too!!! I mix microbrewed lager with my garden tomato juice/spices,this time of year, and there is no taste like it,IMO!!!:D

[soglad]

I had seen a locally brewed Strawberry beer before! I'm half temped to try it sometime! :O

[nickatnoon61]

I had seen a locally brewed Strawberry beer before! I'm half temped to try it sometime! :O

SEND ME A DOZ. SOGGY!!! I'LL PM MY ADDRESS, to ya!!! HA HA :D I AM A BEER "CONNOISSEUR". THAT'S A FANCY FRENCH TERM FOR A DRUNK!!!!! :eek:

[tinmenace]

See a Lie Inside the Brain
Researchers Detect the Truth and Find Lies With an FMRI

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/mri.jpg



...So Nathan went to a new company based in San Diego called No Lie MRI, which claims to use "the first and only direct detection of lies in human history" by actually mapping the portion of the brain that's used in deception.

Polygraph tests, the old standard of being able to tell when someone is lying, are rarely admitted as evidence into court. The polygraph measures blood pressure, sweat and breathing, among other things, to look for emotional signs of lying. But it is possible in some cases for people to learn to control these things and trick the machine....

Story Here (http://abcnews.go.com/WN/story?id=3542921&page=1)



We should implement this immediately as a litmus test on a daily basis in governments around the world.

[julieray]

We should implement this immediately as a litmus test on a daily basis in governments around the world.

They would fail constantly - unless brainwashed to believe they were speaking the truth!!;):)

[tinmenace]

They would fail constantly - unless brainwashed to believe they were speaking the truth!!;):)

Which most of them probably are! :D

[alpha]

hi guys. ive recieved a message from the bank today explaining that electronically identifiable means, and i quote, "name and address identifiable taken from things like you passport, drivers licence and council tax all these things show up and make you electronically identifiable" if your not happy with that please contact me again to discuss this further!!! well hey guess wot!!!! no im not. firstly i dont own a passport, my drivers licence only has a bar code on it so it must have something to do with the council tax. my husband has a passport and drivers licence and is on the council tax register but he isnt elec ident!!! he had to show his id!!! well hey guys maybe its not just me maybe you should all check!!! oh and by the way i will be demanding a further explanation!!!!! i will let u know how i get on.:eek::eek::eek:

[julieray]

The elite know everything about us all anyway, barcode, electronic barcode or whatever. My husband's step father had an appointment to see the Duke of Westminster about 20 years ago to do with a business venture. He was allowed into the premises with the gates opening up and he was directed to a hanger and left alone for ages. When the Duke arrived, my husband's step father commented that he could have been anyone and couldn't understand how he had been left alone when he could easily have took anything there. The Duke said, "don't worry I know everything about you!" or words to that effect. He told me that just recently. I think if they want to know something about you, they will, if not already have every little detail on us anyway whether we like it or not - which is quite worrying!! I think all this microchipping is just to make it all official!!:mad:

[hagbard_celine]

See my "Papiere bitte" thread. I think the purpose of these constant identity checks is not to identify us but to get us accustomed to the practices of needing to flash ID whenever you do anything. It's paving the way for the national identity card. As i said on the other thread; I've had to show my passport at least 4 times since I last went abroad in 2001. I was asked for it when I went to a solicitor, when I changed contracts at work. I had to show my daughter's passport at a swimming pool when she enrolled in swimming lessons!