View Full Version : Is Gordon Brown one of the good guys??!
frase
06-06-2009, 06:43 PM
Ok, Gordon may not be one of the most charismatic guys on the planet...but I don't think I have ever witnessed one man have such a public kicking in my entire life.....There is a huge agenda to get this guy out from every angle.
But there is absolutely NO alternative in the Labour party.
Everyone taking a swipe, the papers, the news, his cabinet, that silly bitch who played the sexism card when overlooked for a job, every comedy panel show.
I'm sure he must be a man in turmoil and experiencing right now what most of us couldn't comprehend....
I actually feel very sorry for the guy for the 1st time, and I actually have developed a certain kind of respect for his durability and stubborness.
Many would have broken by now.
I just want to take a step back from this bandwagon, that's all and find out what everyone else thinks....
I have maybe learnt to take a step back when any story or agenda in the mainstrem now comes up....
steevo
06-06-2009, 06:46 PM
Apart from THAT, what makes you think that he is a good guy ? Has he done some good somewhere along the line ? I know he enquired to see how Susan Boyle was getting on but.....
jesuitsdidit
06-06-2009, 06:46 PM
Ok, Gordon may not be one of the most charismatic guys on the planet...but I don't think I have ever witnessed one man have such a public kicking in my entire life.....There is a huge agenda to get this guy out from every angle.
But there is absolutely NO alternative in the Labour party.
Everyone taking a swipe, the papers, the news, his cabinet, that silly bitch who played the sexism card when overlooked for a job, every comedy panel show.
I'm sure he must be a man in turmoil and experiencing right now what most of us couldn't comprehend....
I actually feel very sorry for the guy for the 1st time, and I actually have developed a certain kind of respect for his durability and stubborness.
Many would have broken by now.
I just want to take a step back from this bandwagon, that's all and find out what everyone else thinks....
I have maybe learnt to take a step back when any story or agenda in the mainstrem now comes up....
oh, he's very high on the ptb hit-list
from what i've heard..
Ian2day
06-06-2009, 06:53 PM
The way I see it is that he is letting the shtf before he goes for a contrived and carefully staged election. He did the other day use some of my own thought up NLP techniques in an interview. What he did was to cross his arms and anchor to him certain key words in the sentences he was speaking. These were emotive words which are down to an individuals interpretation and such everyone suseptical will associate him with their own desires, positive values and core beliefs.
veritasvoice
06-06-2009, 06:54 PM
Everyone is taking a swipe because he is an arrogant unelected dictator.
The reason we are seeing so much of that in the media is not because there has been a massive outbreak of truth, but because it will make it all the more easier for people to vote Conservative.
I can only wonder what Britain will become under the watchful eyes of David Cameron - strikes me as the British version of Obama...and both of them are just ideological copies of Tony Blair.
frase
06-06-2009, 07:14 PM
oh, he's very high on the ptb hit-list
from what i've heard..
Why..what have you heard?
Is he not "conforming"?
All this saying he;s "unelected" is nonsense.
It doesn't apply in the UK.
You elect the party. Anyone can be the leader.
There are vicious, horrible bullying attacks against Gordon, but I have heard of NO alternatives.
He didn't like BLIAR did he?
That's something to be applauded surely?....
Is the fact that British Parliament being made redundant just a grand plan to usher in a Euro government and then World perhaps?.....
Let;s take a step back.
When the mainstream media REALLY REALLY wants something I am always dubious....
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drhemp
06-06-2009, 07:15 PM
Brown is a muppet puppet. He was a terrible Chancellor, massively increasing borrowing and selling off the UK's gold at rock bottom price. He has to be one of the worst PMs ever; the bank bail out alone should be enough reason to send him packing, not to mention the small matter of his presiding over the turning of our country into a police state. Oh I almost forgot, he signed the Lisbon Treaty which effectively hands over Sovereignty to Europe, meaning we have no say on our laws which are instead to be made by unelected bureaucrats in Brussels on behalf of large multinational corporations.
Of course the media are having a swipe at him now, as they are aware many of the electorate have woken up to the true nature of Brown and New Labour, but this is also to help enable the smooth transition of power to Cameron (who will carry on with the same agenda) and maintain the illusion of democracy for the sheeple.
frase
06-06-2009, 07:16 PM
He was also about to get rid of Jackie "porn watching, bath plug claiming,civil liberty eroding, database gathering" Smith too before she resigned which is surely another plus point!!
frase
06-06-2009, 07:17 PM
DRHEMP....
That's fairly damning i admit!
I was just throwing it out there.
I actually feel sorry for the guy, and his wife looks like a nice lady.
That is all.
steevo
06-06-2009, 07:18 PM
oh, he's very high on the ptb hit-list
from what i've heard..
Why..what have you heard?
Is he not "conforming"?
All this saying he;s "unelected" is nonsense.
It doesn't apply in the UK.
You elect the party. Anyone can be the leader.
There are vicious, horrible bullying attacks against Gordon, but I have heard of NO alternatives.
He didn't like BLIAR did he?
That's something to be applauded surely?....
Is the fact that British Parliament being made redundant just a grand plan to usher in a Euro government and then World perhaps?.....
Let;s take a step back.
When the mainstream media REALLY REALLY wants something I am always dubious....
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How do WE know that Blair and Brown didnt get on ? The mainstream media told us so. Blair and Brown are actors. Did Brown want the war in Iraq ? He is just a puppet. Simple as that. The PTB have TOTAL control of their puppets, and do ANYTHING they wish if it forwards their agenda.
It's incredibly simple. you build them up and you tear them down.
Labour eroded, conservatives look like gold.
It's to "make the choice" for the mass.
Brown's just playing the scapegoat for it all, same as Bush did -- until they insert Obama / Cameron.
Can we get past the games? They're all charlatans.
frase
06-06-2009, 07:25 PM
Why has one of the previous posters implied that Gordon was on the PTB hitlist then?
Is there any substance to this?
twistedconcept
06-06-2009, 07:25 PM
It's incredibly simple. you build them up and you tear them down.
Labour eroded, conservatives look like gold.
It's to "make the choice" for the mass.
Brown's just playing the scapegoat for it all, same as Bush did -- until they insert Obama / Cameron.
Can we get past the games? They're all charlatans.
Absolutely.
Brown is as psychopathic as all of them. You don't get that high in politics by being a decent, caring person.
drhemp
06-06-2009, 07:26 PM
How do WE know that Blair and Brown didnt get on ? The mainstream media told us so. Blair and Brown are actors. Did Brown want the war in Iraq ? He is just a puppet. Simple as that. The PTB have TOTAL control of their puppets, and do ANYTHING they wish if it forwards their agenda.
Yes indeed; I have always been suspicious of that story. They certainly got on well enough to plan the destruction of this country via the New Labour project.
91181
06-06-2009, 07:29 PM
Everyone is taking a swipe because he is an arrogant unelected dictator.
The reason we are seeing so much of that in the media is not because there has been a massive outbreak of truth, but because it will make it all the more easier for people to vote Conservative.
I can only wonder what Britain will become under the watchful eyes of David Cameron - strikes me as the British version of Obama...and both of them are just ideological copies of Tony Blair.
Bang on mate , its all a ploy to get the conservatives into power , the idiot who suggested brown is a target for the elite obviously forgot the time when he was Blairs poodle , Brown does what he is told end off..
jesuitsdidit
06-06-2009, 07:32 PM
How do WE know that Blair and Brown didnt get on ?
its well documented.
triotec
06-06-2009, 07:37 PM
Well, I would say that Gordon Brown is one of the bad guys. Remember he is a US poodle!
jesuitsdidit
06-06-2009, 07:37 PM
Brown is a muppet puppet. He was a terrible Chancellor, massively increasing borrowing and selling off the UK's gold at rock bottom price. He has to be one of the worst PMs ever; the bank bail out alone should be enough reason to send him packing, not to mention the small matter of his presiding over the turning of our country into a police state. Oh I almost forgot, he signed the Lisbon Treaty which effectively hands over Sovereignty to Europe, meaning we have no say on our laws which are instead to be made by unelected bureaucrats in Brussels on behalf of large multinational corporations.
Of course the media are having a swipe at him now, as they are aware many of the electorate have woken up to the true nature of Brown and New Labour, but this is also to help enable the smooth transition of power to Cameron (who will carry on with the same agenda) and maintain the illusion of democracy for the sheeple.
Brown is a muppet puppet.
not if he's anti- nwo
He was a terrible Chancellor, massively increasing borrowing
hes only massively increased borrowing to
prevent the banks collapsing
and selling off the UK's gold at rock bottom price.
yes, that was a bit bizarre
maybe 'they' wanted him to
He has to be one of the worst PMs ever
so why r ptb out to get him?
the bank bail out alone should be enough reason to send him packing,
what wd u hav done?
not to mention the small matter of his presiding over the turning of our country into a police state.
all countries r being turned into a police state
its not HIM
its them
he signed the Lisbon Treaty which effectively hands over Sovereignty to Europe,
all countries hav to sign
its not HIM
its them
on behalf of large multinational corporations.
who r controlled by ptb
Of course the media are having a swipe at him now, as they are aware many of the electorate have woken up to the true nature of Brown and New Labour,
wrong media r against him coz he went against nwo
if my info is correct..
but this is also to help enable the smooth transition of power to Cameron
or, its to punish him
or more importantly to get rid of him
coz if wot ive heard is correct
he n 1 or 2 others have seriously f**ked up their plans..
jesuitsdidit
06-06-2009, 07:45 PM
Yes indeed; I have always been suspicious of that story. They certainly got on well enough to plan the destruction of this country via the New Labour project.
yes, he had to swear allegiance to
get in
but like many he's turned
and they dont like it..
veritasvoice
06-06-2009, 07:46 PM
Bang on mate , its all a ploy to get the conservatives into power , the idiot who suggested brown is a target for the elite obviously forgot the time when he was Blairs poodle , Brown does what he is told end off..
And let's not forget John Prescott - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. He was the person responsible for "devolution of power", setting the stage for the eventual breakup of the United Kingdom. This is a man who destroyed 200,000 homes in the name of urban regeneration.
Remember, its all the people we DON'T see in front of cameras all the time that make the real decisions. None of the people in the top spot are in control.
I'd be interested to know who was issuing Prescott with his marching orders, because it certainly wasn't Blair or Brown.
airkraft
06-06-2009, 07:47 PM
Can you tell us what it is has has done to fuck up their plans exactly
sloppy
06-06-2009, 07:48 PM
The puppets take the 'heat' and cause distractions. But you can never be 100% sure, i always keep an open mind.
jesuitsdidit
06-06-2009, 07:51 PM
Yes indeed; I have always been suspicious of that story.
really?
actually its not a story
its a well-documented fact..
jesuitsdidit
06-06-2009, 07:51 PM
Well, I would say that Gordon Brown is one of the bad guys. Remember he is a US poodle!
evidence??
jesuitsdidit
06-06-2009, 07:56 PM
the idiot who suggested brown is a target for the elite obviously forgot the time when he was Blairs poodle ,
brown was never blair's poodle
he fought him every day
on almost every issue..
largejack
06-06-2009, 07:58 PM
No, it's easy to feel sympathy for someone when they appear to be so down, but this whole thing is engineered and Brown knows it too.
jesuitsdidit
06-06-2009, 07:59 PM
I'd be interested to know who was issuing Prescott with his marching orders, because it certainly wasn't Blair or Brown.
what do u mean by marching orders?
jesuitsdidit
06-06-2009, 08:02 PM
Everyone is taking a swipe because he is an arrogant unelected dictator.
arrogant
not seen it
unelected
wrong
blair stood with all knowing Brown wd take over
dictator
havnt seen it..
course if u r also a real truther
like steevo and kiwimaj
you wd say that wdnt u??
jesuitsdidit
06-06-2009, 08:05 PM
He has to be one of the worst PMs ever;
wot leads you to say this?
Ian2day
06-06-2009, 08:06 PM
All of these politicians are getting their material and tactics from the same think tanks etc. I would be interested in knowing about these various organisations. Who owns them and what their connections are.
jesuitsdidit
06-06-2009, 08:07 PM
Can you tell us what it is has has done to fuck up their plans exactly
i dont know all the details
its wot ive heard..
jesuitsdidit
06-06-2009, 08:09 PM
No, it's easy to feel sympathy for someone when they appear to be so down, but this whole thing is engineered
for what purpose?
drhemp
06-06-2009, 08:14 PM
Brown is a muppet puppet.
not if he's anti- nwo
He was a terrible Chancellor, massively increasing borrowing
hes only massively increased borrowing to
prevent the banks collapsing
and selling off the UK's gold at rock bottom price.
yes, that was a bit bizarre
maybe 'they' wanted him to
He has to be one of the worst PMs ever
so why r ptb out to get him?
the bank bail out alone should be enough reason to send him packing,
what wd u hav done?
not to mention the small matter of his presiding over the turning of our country into a police state.
all countries r being turned into a police state
its not HIM
its them
he signed the Lisbon Treaty which effectively hands over Sovereignty to Europe,
all countries hav to sign
its not HIM
its them
on behalf of large multinational corporations.
who r controlled by ptb
Of course the media are having a swipe at him now, as they are aware many of the electorate have woken up to the true nature of Brown and New Labour,
wrong media r against him coz he went against nwo
if my info is correct..
but this is also to help enable the smooth transition of power to Cameron
or, its to punish him
or more importantly to get rid of him
coz if wot ive heard is correct
he n 1 or 2 others have seriously f**ked up their plans..
If you are fooled by Brown then that's your prerogative, personally I don't see how going along with turning the UK into a police state, giving the banks billions and signing the Lisbon Treaty is fucking up their plans. He increased UK borrowing way before the recent bank collapses (of which he did nothing to prevent).
Brown is about as pro-NWO as you can get; if you don't believe me, how about hearing it from the fat one-eyed Scottish idiot himself ...
Gordon Brown New World Order Speech - YouTube
jesuitsdidit
06-06-2009, 10:09 PM
If you are fooled by Brown then that's your prerogative, personally I don't see how going along with turning the UK into a police state, giving the banks billions and signing the Lisbon Treaty is fucking up their plans. He increased UK borrowing way before the recent bank collapses (of which he did nothing to prevent).
Brown is about as pro-NWO as you can get; if you don't believe me, how about hearing it from the fat one-eyed Scottish idiot himself ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv5cqh26CC0
so
youve just dismissed evrything
ive said as rubbish
have you?
you wouldnt know
if brown had turned would you?
guuna
06-06-2009, 11:11 PM
arrogant
not seen it
unelected
wrong
blair stood with all knowing Brown wd take over
dictator
havnt seen it..
course if u r also a real truther
like steevo and kiwimaj
you wd say that wdnt u??
Brown is 100% supporter of the new world order, he has stated it on many occasions. He is vile through and through. Not that any of them are any better of course. To suggest he is 'one of the good guys' is utter rubbish.
guuna
06-06-2009, 11:13 PM
If you are fooled by Brown then that's your prerogative, personally I don't see how going along with turning the UK into a police state, giving the banks billions and signing the Lisbon Treaty is fucking up their plans. He increased UK borrowing way before the recent bank collapses (of which he did nothing to prevent).
Brown is about as pro-NWO as you can get; if you don't believe me, how about hearing it from the fat one-eyed Scottish idiot himself ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv5cqh26CC0
Good post, Couldn't have said it better myself.
guuna
06-06-2009, 11:17 PM
so
youve just dismissed evrything
ive said as rubbish
have you?
you wouldnt know
if brown had turned would you?
You have information that suggests to you that Brown has turned?
IF you have it I'd love to see it.
monkeyboy
06-06-2009, 11:39 PM
The chancellor of the world has a new job to do.:confused:
frase
07-06-2009, 12:44 AM
I just can't help thinking how contradictory everyone's postings are.....
We have established that Main Scream Media is NWO controlled allegedly, and that Brown is allegedly in with the NWO, so why is there such a vicious camapign from all angles to have a pop and undermine him?
Don't say that Brown is just acting, he looks like he hasn't slept in weeks and his finger nails are down to the quick, this guy is hanging by a very thin thread indeed.
Maybe things just are what they seem after all................
steevo
07-06-2009, 12:49 AM
I just can't help thinking how contradictory everyone's postings are.....
We have established that Main Scream Media is NWO controlled allegedly, and that Brown is allegedly in with the NWO, so why is there such a vicious camapign from all angles to have a pop and undermine him?
Don't say that Brown is just acting, he looks like he hasn't slept in weeks and his finger nails are down to the quick, this guy is hanging by a very thin thread indeed.
Maybe things just are what they seem after all................
Do you think Blair was a good guy too ? Cos the same thing happened to him at times, if I remember rightly.
frase
07-06-2009, 12:54 AM
Absolutely not.
i think Blair is dangerous and into some dark shit.
There is just so much contradiction.
Might it be this whole NWO is just bullshit?
Things just are what they are?
decim
07-06-2009, 12:56 AM
This is a Good Guy..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/TrueHorror/CHUCKYREVIEW028bcd-1.jpg
jesuitsdidit
07-06-2009, 12:59 AM
Do you think Blair was a good guy too ? Cos the same thing happened to him at times, if I remember rightly.
wrong..
steevo
07-06-2009, 01:00 AM
wrong..
Sorry YOU are wrong.
jesuitsdidit
07-06-2009, 01:03 AM
I just can't help thinking how contradictory everyone's postings are.....
We have established that Main Scream Media is NWO controlled allegedly, and that Brown is allegedly in with the NWO, so why is there such a vicious camapign from all angles to have a pop and undermine him?
Don't say that Brown is just acting, he looks like he hasn't slept in weeks and his finger nails are down to the quick, this guy is hanging by a very thin thread indeed.
Maybe things just are what they seem after all................
some cant see it
some r agents.
they (ptb)
r out to get Brown imo
they control media
they knew exposing expenses
at this time, public wd blame Brown
they r trying to topple him..
veritasvoice
07-06-2009, 01:20 AM
some cant see it
some r agents.
they (ptb)
r out to get Brown imo
they control media
they knew exposing expenses
at this time, public wd blame Brown
they r trying to topple him..
You really don't get 'problem-reaction-solution', do you?
Problem: Install a shitty leader who will advance their agenda.
Reaction: Public outrage, assisted and fueled by the MSM.
Solution: Put in a "change of face" for the public to vote for, to "get the bad leader" out of office, who will then commence with further advancement of their agenda.
As I'd already posted, the only reason you are starting to see newspapers jump on the anti-Brown bandwagon is to set up support for Cameron.
It happened the same way in the US with the stealing of the elections for Bush, 8 years of shitty rule under a puppet dictator, followed by a massive MSM drive for Obama, who has done nothing except advance and defend Bush's policies.
Bush Jr in turn was the reaction to Clinton, who was the "solution" to Bush Sr.
In Britain, Blair was the MSM-approved solution to Major, another installed puppet, who came promising hope and change from the Conservatives.
frase
07-06-2009, 01:26 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/5462215/Gordon-Brown-to-announce-Iraq-War-inquiry.html
WOW!!!!
The penny drops!!!!
The Telegraph again!
He is/was going to launch an enquiry into the Iraq war.
Thoughts anyone?
steevo
07-06-2009, 01:38 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/5462215/Gordon-Brown-to-announce-Iraq-War-inquiry.html
WOW!!!!
The penny drops!!!!
The Telegraph again!
He is/was going to launch an enquiry into the Iraq war.
Thoughts anyone?
Sorry but Brown doesnt make ANY decisions, ESPECIALLY that one. Milliband had already mentioned a few months ago that there was gonna be an inquiry after July 2009, and when he said it he gave a smug schoolboy type grin (as if to say, "yeahhh, YOU'LL be lucky, you simpletons"). Brown is an actor. It's all scripted. Even the bits where Brown hasnt read the script, he KNOWS what is expected of him, to continue playing his part.
smoke n mirrors
07-06-2009, 01:40 AM
Brown is a muppet puppet.
not if he's anti- nwo
He was a terrible Chancellor, massively increasing borrowing
hes only massively increased borrowing to
prevent the banks collapsing
In that case he knew long before he admitted it. NHS Public Private Partnerships? Handing the control of the interest rates to the Privately owned Bank of England (as soon as they got in). plundering the private pensions schemes...the list goes on. He was simply the worst ever Chancellor period.
and selling off the UK's gold at rock bottom price.
yes, that was a bit bizarre
maybe 'they' wanted him to
Total mind blowing of course they wanted him to and he did! Your point is?
He has to be one of the worst PMs ever
so why r ptb out to get him?
Because he has out lived his usefulness and is maximising the level of damage he can caused on the way out. He will be rewarded when he goes. TPTH will pay him plenty to talk shit over dinner. Chicken feed considering the cost he has inflicted on this country for generations to come.
the bank bail out alone should be enough reason to send him packing,
what wd u hav done?
Errrr let them fail which is what capitalism is supposed to be about survival of the fittest. So you believe that failure, falls accounting and unethical practices should be rewarded?
He also should have done something when he was first made chancellor like bring in regulations to control malpractice in the system.
The bailout money could have been used to create business, that produce tangible goods with actual value and job creation with proper skills.
not to mention the small matter of his presiding over the turning of our country into a police state.
all countries r being turned into a police state
its not HIM
its them
Oh right just because the EU, says stick your head in the oven and turn on the gas we do? If he had a spine and any moral integrity he would have said F-off. He would have suffered a fatal heart attack, before he could do damage, but he would have demonstrated he was worthy of his position!
he signed the Lisbon Treaty which effectively hands over Sovereignty to Europe,
all countries hav to sign
its not HIM
its them
Oh right just because the EU, says stick your head in the oven and turn on the gas we do? If he had a spine and any moral integrity he would have said F-off. He would have suffered a fatal heart attack, before he could do damage, but he would have demonstrated he was worthy of his position!
on behalf of large multinational corporations.
who r controlled by ptb
If he were against the agenda he would have taken steps to at least weaken or slow the progress. He has done nothing to prevent anything.
Of course the media are having a swipe at him now, as they are aware many of the electorate have woken up to the true nature of Brown and New Labour,
wrong media r against him coz he went against nwo
if my info is correct..
Your evidence of his fight against the NWO is based on what? Source?
but this is also to help enable the smooth transition of power to Cameron
or, its to punish him
or more importantly to get rid of him
coz if wot ive heard is correct
he n 1 or 2 others have seriously f**ked up their plans..
He is playing the game, and he will go when they say he will go...he is a puppet and he gets feed after he completes his tricks.
You keep sighting this undisclosed hearsay as justification. Source and nature of these good deeds would be most welcome. Until then they are not relevant to any defense.
Please don't take offense at my comments jesuitsdidit. I enjoy the posts you make and issues you raise. I'm really struggling, to see how you take this stance over this incompetent, pathetic, vile, spineless and imposed treasonous PM BROWN, GORDON. :confused:
Different strokes and all that.
Perhaps I'm not worthy of being a real truther like steevo and the like. :rolleyes:
Toot toot.
frase
07-06-2009, 01:44 AM
Brown is an actor. It's all scripted. Even the bits where Brown hasnt read the script, he KNOWS what is expected of him, to continue playing his part
@Steevo-Then he's definitely a Method actor living the part, the guy looks like he hasn't slept in 6 months, his finger nails are down to the quick and is one step away from jumping off a bridge.....
To the poster who said we should let the banks fail..that's capitalism....
That is also millions of people's pensions and savings too.....
Should they all be punished too?
Letting the banks fail unfortunately wasn't an option ever.
steevo
07-06-2009, 01:46 AM
Perhaps I'm not worthy of being a real truther like stevo and the like. :rolleyes:
Toot toot.[/I][/B]
Glad you did the "toot toot" cos Jesuitsdidit is taking the piss out of me for some reason. He is my stalker, and seems infatuated with me. I think he "likes" me ;):eek: He craves my attention ALWAYS (but I hardly ever respond to him and he gets sort of upset/angry *shudders*
steevo
07-06-2009, 01:49 AM
Brown is an actor. It's all scripted. Even the bits where Brown hasnt read the script, he KNOWS what is expected of him, to continue playing his part
@Steevo-Then he's definitely a Method actor living the part, the guy looks like he hasn't slept in 6 months, his finger nails are down to the quick and is one step away from jumping off a bridge.....
Well would YOU sleep very well if you were living the high-life by being a liar with probably MANY skeletons in your closet, and you KNEW that everyone was starting to twig ?
smoke n mirrors
07-06-2009, 01:52 AM
This is a Good Guy..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/TrueHorror/CHUCKYREVIEW028bcd-1.jpg
Certainly has better teeth and dress sense. :D
smoke n mirrors
07-06-2009, 02:02 AM
To the poster who said we should let the banks fail..that's capitalism....
That is also millions of people's pensions and savings too.....
Should they all be punished too?
Letting the banks fail unfortunately wasn't an option ever.
That was me, and if you had read the rest of that comment you would have noticed, that I suggested that real jobs could have been created with the cash.
You really think the bail out is going to benefit real people and their pensions?
Even before the bailout the pensions were screwed once by BROWN, GORDON'S plundering and then by poor fund management and fraudulent business practices throughout the financial industry. Its corruption on an unbelievable scale!
So the man in the street is screwed whether they were bailed or not.
.
adbasque
07-06-2009, 02:11 AM
Ok, Gordon may not be one of the most charismatic guys on the planet...but I don't think I have ever witnessed one man have such a public kicking in my entire life.....There is a huge agenda to get this guy out from every angle.
But there is absolutely NO alternative in the Labour party.
Everyone taking a swipe, the papers, the news, his cabinet, that silly bitch who played the sexism card when overlooked for a job, every comedy panel show.
I'm sure he must be a man in turmoil and experiencing right now what most of us couldn't comprehend....
I actually feel very sorry for the guy for the 1st time, and I actually have developed a certain kind of respect for his durability and stubborness.
Many would have broken by now.
I just want to take a step back from this bandwagon, that's all and find out what everyone else thinks....
I have maybe learnt to take a step back when any story or agenda in the mainstrem now comes up....
He maybe is a good guy and a very naive one, who thinks he can change the world, nevertheless he was like a whore, couple of examples, he asked Michelle and Barack Obama for dinner and they turned him down, and on the remembrance day after Obama made his speech today, he was the first to get up and literally pulled his hand to shake it.
He is probably desperate to have some supporting shoulders, anyway if he really wanted to do good, he should've sided with the people not his masters, now they chewed him good and they are spitting him out, like a piece of chewing gum bit by bit.
If British people saw that he was a real man and stood for their interests, they will back him up, they will never let him go, but because he was supporting the Bankers that was his last mistake.
The British people will not be fooled by him (perhaps others) but as far as Gordon is concerned he is finished. (politically)
adbasque
07-06-2009, 02:20 AM
You really don't get 'problem-reaction-solution', do you?
Problem: Install a shitty leader who will advance their agenda.
Reaction: Public outrage, assisted and fueled by the MSM.
Solution: Put in a "change of face" for the public to vote for, to "get the bad leader" out of office, who will then commence with further advancement of their agenda.
As I'd already posted, the only reason you are starting to see newspapers jump on the anti-Brown bandwagon is to set up support for Cameron.
It happened the same way in the US with the stealing of the elections for Bush, 8 years of shitty rule under a puppet dictator, followed by a massive MSM drive for Obama, who has done nothing except advance and defend Bush's policies.
Bush Jr in turn was the reaction to Clinton, who was the "solution" to Bush Sr.
In Britain, Blair was the MSM-approved solution to Major, another installed puppet, who came promising hope and change from the Conservatives.
You're absolutely right, this what it comes down to, the end of the day, they know, the cat is out of the bag, let's give them brown and have cameron ready to drag the agenda a little further until we don't need him anymore.
The difference between Brown and Blair, is that Brown understood what he had to do, he jumped out of the train before colision and he left Brown to take all the crap for him and the rest of the parliament.
What the Elite has to care about Obama, Brown, Bush or anyone, they use them and they move on.
The difference with Bush he had all his family around him, some were governors some were members of the congress, they had few TV networks backing them, such as Fox News and other American TV networks.
Brown doesn't have all that, and he was thrown out to the wolves.
adbasque
07-06-2009, 02:32 AM
Brown is about as pro-NWO as you can get; if you don't believe me, how about hearing it from the fat one-eyed Scottish idiot himself ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv5cqh26CC0
Who was running about across the globe to bring the nations together?
He is a NWO whore, that's all I can say about the bastard, I have no sympathy for him, he was doing things in stealth, licking the banker's as** ;)
He can go to hell with his masters.
He screwed the average guy in the UK, working for the rich and the wealthy, and his pimps the bankers
relax
07-06-2009, 02:32 AM
oh, he's very high on the ptb hit-list
from what i've heard..
Why..what have you heard?
Is he not "conforming"?
All this saying he;s "unelected" is nonsense.
It doesn't apply in the UK.
You elect the party. Anyone can be the leader.
There are vicious, horrible bullying attacks against Gordon, but I have heard of NO alternatives.
He didn't like BLIAR did he?
That's something to be applauded surely?....
Is the fact that British Parliament being made redundant just a grand plan to usher in a Euro government and then World perhaps?.....
Let;s take a step back.
When the mainstream media REALLY REALLY wants something I am always dubious....
__________________
The people that are elected as prime minister will always be working towards the same goal essentially. Saying he doesnt like blair is just a way of making himself favourable to most of the british public clearly.
adbasque
07-06-2009, 02:35 AM
Everyone is taking a swipe because he is an arrogant unelected dictator.
The reason we are seeing so much of that in the media is not because there has been a massive outbreak of truth, but because it will make it all the more easier for people to vote Conservative.
I can only wonder what Britain will become under the watchful eyes of David Cameron - strikes me as the British version of Obama...and both of them are just ideological copies of Tony Blair.
If Cameron is elected he'll be ruthless, radical, with no regards to our liberties or freedom, remember these words.
It doesn't matter who they put in power they all have the same agenda waiting for them to take it further
adbasque
07-06-2009, 02:40 AM
The people that are elected as prime minister will always be working towards the same goal essentially. Saying he doesnt like blair is just a way of making himself favourable to most of the british public clearly.
Yes, he did that because Blair had to leave, so people will accept him as a "better" option than Blair, B'liar started to become very unpopular amongst the British people so they had to keep the Labour there to continue his work.
Blair was assigned to EU where he can screw us even more, but away from the public eye.
Him not liking Blair it's all acting, they hang together and have a good laugh at us, like Bush, Obama, Kerry, Clinton.
All f***s
tb303
07-06-2009, 02:44 AM
I said back in early December 2005 when Cameron was elected as leader of the Tories and Sky News (Murdoch owned Blair backers) were all over him that he'd be the next Prime Minister (if there's another election if the Lisbon Treaty gets signed) after Brown inherited an economic meltdown and after huge backlashes against the Iraq war. I was wrong about the Iraq war - the masses are too dumbed down and apathetic.
Am I psychic, or a genius? No, I'd have thought that anyone visiting here would have thought precisely the same as it's so bloody obvious.
Is Gordon Brown one of the good guys?
FFS :rolleyes:
adbasque
07-06-2009, 03:49 AM
I said back in early December 2005 when Cameron was elected as leader of the Tories and Sky News (Murdoch owned Blair backers) were all over him that he'd be the next Prime Minister (if there's another election if the Lisbon Treaty gets signed) after Brown inherited an economic meltdown and after huge backlashes against the Iraq war. I was wrong about the Iraq war - the masses are too dumbed down and apathetic.
Am I psychic, or a genius? No, I'd have thought that anyone visiting here would have thought precisely the same as it's so bloody obvious.
Is Gordon Brown one of the good guys?
FFS :rolleyes:
To be honest when Blair was elected as the leader of the "New" Labour I said humm bad news ahead, I simply knew that the Elite will move up a gear, that was back in 1994 in the leadership election I think it was July, I was in Paris at the time and I moved back to the UK in December that same year.
I knew it was going to be a nighmare if he is elected as Prime Minister, and three years later bang.
Two things I didn't like about them, one the "NEW" labour and two his f** smile I just wanted to smack him in the mouth.
I knew he was a hypocrite, I am not saying the others aren't, but he was so obvious.
Now we have another slimy Cameron lol typical, where do they find these slimy people? :D
I actually feel very sorry for the guy for the 1st time, and I actually have developed a certain kind of respect for his durability and stubborness.
Many would have broken by now.
So is THAT, what this is all about?
I understand now. Elections in 12 months.
michael christopher
07-06-2009, 06:19 AM
Long answer: No.
bowtiedaddy
07-06-2009, 07:24 AM
Ok, Gordon may not be one of the most charismatic guys on the planet...but I don't think I have ever witnessed one man have such a public kicking in my entire life.....There is a huge agenda to get this guy out from every angle.
But there is absolutely NO alternative in the Labour party.
Everyone taking a swipe, the papers, the news, his cabinet, that silly bitch who played the sexism card when overlooked for a job, every comedy panel show.
I'm sure he must be a man in turmoil and experiencing right now what most of us couldn't comprehend....
I actually feel very sorry for the guy for the 1st time, and I actually have developed a certain kind of respect for his durability and stubborness.
Many would have broken by now.
I just want to take a step back from this bandwagon, that's all and find out what everyone else thinks....
I have maybe learnt to take a step back when any story or agenda in the mainstrem now comes up....
Fuck no. Gordon Brown is New World Order scum.
The elites fuck each other as well. Their plan is what matters to them, they don't even care about their own.
Ian2day
07-06-2009, 10:11 AM
There all the same. There is no good, there is no point to any of it.
tyler
07-06-2009, 10:35 AM
Brown is a muppet puppet. He was a terrible Chancellor, massively increasing borrowing and selling off the UK's gold at rock bottom price. He has to be one of the worst PMs ever; the bank bail out alone should be enough reason to send him packing, not to mention the small matter of his presiding over the turning of our country into a police state. Oh I almost forgot, he signed the Lisbon Treaty which effectively hands over Sovereignty to Europe, meaning we have no say on our laws which are instead to be made by unelected bureaucrats in Brussels on behalf of large multinational corporations.
Of course the media are having a swipe at him now, as they are aware many of the electorate have woken up to the true nature of Brown and New Labour, but this is also to help enable the smooth transition of power to Cameron (who will carry on with the same agenda) and maintain the illusion of democracy for the sheeple.
Brown sold our gold cheap to the Rothschilds. Gave billions to the bankers for no reason. That's right, just gave them billions of free money to do what they want with it!
He is following orders and will be rewarded when they are done with him. Just like Tony Blair.
Brown spent all his summer holidays as a kid in Israel. His father was a pastor who spent every summer in Israel for some bloody reason. Brown has been indoctrinated since childhood.
All this Brown bashing is part of their agenda. They don't want an election just yet. They have other nefarious plans like a war on Iran, another huge terrorist outrage to get it kick started and to bring in martial law. I believe this coming year will be a nightmare!
We ain't seen nuttin yet!
disorder2k8
07-06-2009, 10:46 AM
blair let brown take over, brown is an annoying old fart who cant get a budget right, why should he be trusted with a country
drhemp
07-06-2009, 11:07 AM
You really don't get 'problem-reaction-solution', do you?
Problem: Install a shitty leader who will advance their agenda.
Reaction: Public outrage, assisted and fueled by the MSM.
Solution: Put in a "change of face" for the public to vote for, to "get the bad leader" out of office, who will then commence with further advancement of their agenda.
As I'd already posted, the only reason you are starting to see newspapers jump on the anti-Brown bandwagon is to set up support for Cameron.
It happened the same way in the US with the stealing of the elections for Bush, 8 years of shitty rule under a puppet dictator, followed by a massive MSM drive for Obama, who has done nothing except advance and defend Bush's policies.
Bush Jr in turn was the reaction to Clinton, who was the "solution" to Bush Sr.
In Britain, Blair was the MSM-approved solution to Major, another installed puppet, who came promising hope and change from the Conservatives.
Excellent post. I feel for people if they still don't get it after being so clearly explained to.
grannymoose
07-06-2009, 01:02 PM
How do WE know that Blair and Brown didnt get on ? The mainstream media told us so. Blair and Brown are actors. Did Brown want the war in Iraq ? He is just a puppet. Simple as that. The PTB have TOTAL control of their puppets, and do ANYTHING they wish if it forwards their agenda.
i agree, we only know what goes on with all the parties becouse of what we are told through the media.
mindrevolution
07-06-2009, 01:05 PM
He has attended Bilderberger meetings in the past aswell hasn't he? That tells me enough. Hes not a good guy.
airkraft
07-06-2009, 01:29 PM
Didnt the same sort of bashing happen to "Maggie" when they wanted to get rid of her.
She was lauded for years as the "Iron lady" who "Wasnt for turning" no matter what.....a strong leader. She left office a weak and beaten woman in the end. She`d served her purpose though ...to break the unions and get everyone in debt by owning their own homes.
informationx
07-06-2009, 01:36 PM
Ok, Gordon may not be one of the most charismatic guys on the planet...but I don't think I have ever witnessed one man have such a public kicking in my entire life.....There is a huge agenda to get this guy out from every angle.
But there is absolutely NO alternative in the Labour party.
Everyone taking a swipe, the papers, the news, his cabinet, that silly bitch who played the sexism card when overlooked for a job, every comedy panel show.
I'm sure he must be a man in turmoil and experiencing right now what most of us couldn't comprehend....
I actually feel very sorry for the guy for the 1st time, and I actually have developed a certain kind of respect for his durability and stubborness.
Many would have broken by now.
I just want to take a step back from this bandwagon, that's all and find out what everyone else thinks....
I have maybe learnt to take a step back when any story or agenda in the mainstrem now comes up....
The real sad thing is that many people have voted tory, in opposition against labour in the council elections. Even though they dont know a single tory policy, or even like the tory party.
As they say, who ever you vote for the government always gets in! :D
halftheworldaway
07-06-2009, 01:47 PM
He has attended Bilderberger meetings in the past aswell hasn't he? That tells me enough. Hes not a good guy.
Yes, he's BB'er. So is his Business Secretary whose latest attendance was three weeks ago. I doubt whether anyone would believe that Mandy was there without the express permission of Crash Gordon.
Ditto for Cameron with respect to his Shadow Chancellor and Trade Secretary.
But don't hold your breath waiting for a Panorama Special, or any type of investigatory reporting by anyone from the wholly owned mainstream media.
decode reality
07-06-2009, 02:11 PM
Everyone is taking a swipe because he is an arrogant unelected dictator.
The reason we are seeing so much of that in the media is not because there has been a massive outbreak of truth, but because it will make it all the more easier for people to vote Conservative.
I can only wonder what Britain will become under the watchful eyes of David Cameron - strikes me as the British version of Obama...and both of them are just ideological copies of Tony Blair.
Cameron's a bit of an unknown quantity. I get the feeling that people voted Tory recently almost as a 'protest vote' against Labour, rather than any great support for the Con-Servatives.
hey_jude
07-06-2009, 02:30 PM
Brown is 100% supporter of the new world order, he has stated it on many occasions. He is vile through and through. Not that any of them are any better of course. To suggest he is 'one of the good guys' is utter rubbish.
drhemp & gunna are correct ...Comrade Brown has been a main player in the NWO plans and really who gives a shit about whether Brown and Blair 'got on' they don't run the country ...Blair never did, Nat Rothschild & Mandelscum had/have more control over the dictatorship we now live in than Blair or Brown!
I challenge anyone to post details showing evidence that Brown has scuppered any of the NWO's plans ...come on then?
hey_jude
07-06-2009, 02:35 PM
Didnt the same sort of bashing happen to "Maggie" when they wanted to get rid of her.
She was lauded for years as the "Iron lady" who "Wasnt for turning" no matter what.....a strong leader. She left office a weak and beaten woman in the end. She`d served her purpose though ...to break the unions and get everyone in debt by owning their own homes.
Correct ...Mrs T was politically assassinated by Geoffrey Howe in the famous youtube clip ...he was virtually PAID/THREATENED or whatever by TPTB to do this after her NO, NO, NO commons speech, he response was referring to the EU taking control of our £, our defense and our laws ...she was then a loose cannon and simply had to go!
link .....The Political Assassination of Margaret Thatcher - YouTube
ronisron
07-06-2009, 02:45 PM
Nope, not one of the good guys, unless you are a member of the club he belongs to.
tb303
07-06-2009, 03:24 PM
I doubt whether anyone would believe that Mandy was there without the express permission of Crash Gordon
That's a good one, I like that :D
Honestly, does anyone think that politicians are anything more than actors trained in doublespeak and to avoid answering questions? I mean, what the fuck does Darling know about economics, the Milibands about foreign affairs and energy/climate change? I'd agree that Jack Straw knows a fair bit about justice since crime figures largely in his family.
vonbeck
07-06-2009, 03:42 PM
how about hearing it from the fat one-eyed Scottish idiot himself ...
A resurrection of an unnecessary quote from a highly paid bbc oaf!
And what has being scottish even got to do with it? or the fact he damage his eye in an accident? nice to see such a stereo type racist form of abuse from a moderator in what is meant to be a forum for more enlightened people.
Exactly the reason why I don't waste my time reading most of the endless bile on here.
hey_jude
07-06-2009, 03:49 PM
A resurrection of an unnecessary quote from a highly paid bbc oaf!
And what has being scottish even got to do with it? or the fact he damage his eye in an accident? nice to see such a stereo type racist form of abuse from a moderator in what is meant to be a forum for more enlightened people.
Exactly the reason why I don't waste my time reading most of the endless bile on here.
bye then vonbeck
...I see drhemp pointing out the "one eyed scottish idiot" description, not a racist slur
...we are all of the human race ...you are another one to have fallen for TPTB "divide and conquer" routine, well done!
I'm of the human race what race are you?
nectars
07-06-2009, 04:17 PM
Doesn't matter whos in charge the game plan stays the same. The winners take over the previous game players cards and the losers takes on the role of being against them.
He's out of his depth and seems unable to grasp the rules of the game. Either way it wont matter. The game will be played out.
tintin
07-06-2009, 05:30 PM
oh, he's very high on the ptb hit-list
from what i've heard..
You have heard that from DIAMOND TRADER Phelps did you.
Yeah, JEWS are not so clever at all.
in fact JEWS are pretty innocent....
That's what ERIC PHELPS and you want us to believe.
JEWS are just VICTIMS of EVIL CATHOLICS.
http://www.theuniversalseduction.com/images/2162.jpg
ROTSCHILDS are just HOFJUDEN
The poor ROTHSCHILDS only serve the ROYALS
according to ERIC PHELPS and his servant JESUITSDIDIT.
tintin
07-06-2009, 05:37 PM
Brown is a muppet puppet.
not if he's anti- nwo
He was a terrible Chancellor, massively increasing borrowing
hes only massively increased borrowing to
prevent the banks collapsing
and selling off the UK's gold at rock bottom price.
yes, that was a bit bizarre
maybe 'they' wanted him to
He has to be one of the worst PMs ever
so why r ptb out to get him?
the bank bail out alone should be enough reason to send him packing,
what wd u hav done?
not to mention the small matter of his presiding over the turning of our country into a police state.
all countries r being turned into a police state
its not HIM
its them
he signed the Lisbon Treaty which effectively hands over Sovereignty to Europe,
all countries hav to sign
its not HIM
its them
on behalf of large multinational corporations.
who r controlled by ptb
Of course the media are having a swipe at him now, as they are aware many of the electorate have woken up to the true nature of Brown and New Labour,
wrong media r against him coz he went against nwo
if my info is correct..
but this is also to help enable the smooth transition of power to Cameron
or, its to punish him
or more importantly to get rid of him
coz if wot ive heard is correct
he n 1 or 2 others have seriously f**ked up their plans..
How on earth can you put this
ERIC PHELPS NONSENSE on the NET.
frase
07-06-2009, 05:41 PM
Who are at the top of the tree so to speak?
Is there one guy?
The mastermind?
jesuitsdidit
07-06-2009, 05:44 PM
How on earth can you put this
ERIC PHELPS NONSENSE on the NET.
i think they want you to go back
and take
'how to disrupt a forum' part 4
see u in a few weeks tt
jesuitsdidit
07-06-2009, 05:46 PM
i think they want you to go back
and take
'how to disrupt a forum' part 4
see u in a few weeks tt
btw how much do u get paid?
is it a set amount per post
or does it depend how long the post is??
jesuitsdidit
07-06-2009, 05:48 PM
Who are at the top of the tree so to speak?
Is there one guy?
The mastermind?
Who are at the top of the tree so to speak?
look around,
u might find some clues
Is there one guy?
not really
its more of an organisation..
gilly
07-06-2009, 05:48 PM
Please can we steer clear of the personal slurs and keep the thread on track!
jesuitsdidit
07-06-2009, 06:19 PM
How on earth can you put this
ERIC PHELPS NONSENSE on the NET.
what makes u say its eric phelps nonsense
why cant it be my own nonsense?
al ciada
07-06-2009, 06:53 PM
Is Brown one of the good guys?
:confused:
Hang the f***** i say :cool:
adbasque
07-06-2009, 06:56 PM
Is Brown one of the good guys?
:confused:
Hang the f***** i say :cool:
Yes what's the point in hanging him and leave the others?
If we start the hanging we should hang them all or no one.
We don't want to turn into a lynching mob, we are better than they are, I know this was a figure of speech, don't worry :)
al ciada
07-06-2009, 07:03 PM
Yes what's the point in hanging him and leave the others?
If we start the hanging we should hang them all or no one.
We don't want to turn into a lynching mob, we are better than they are, I know this was a figure of speech, don't worry :)
Of course it is a figure of speech...... But it still makes me feel better to say it :D
But while im on the subject Jacki Smith should be on the list too ;)
adbasque
07-06-2009, 08:23 PM
Of course it is a figure of speech...... But it still makes me feel better to say it :D
But while im on the subject Jacki Smith should be on the list too ;)
To be honest If I decide to make a list I will still be here tomorrow night, typing away :D
Oh god
Blair should be the first be hanged, yes before the Elite members, because I want them to watch and wait their turn lol
Torture them mentally first lol
jesuitsdidit
07-06-2009, 10:33 PM
i havnt got time to deal with all the posts that
were directed at me now
but i'll say this
none of you, as far as i can see,
seem capable of considering that Brown
may be the recipient of a vendetta
i'm very glad to see you've all passed
'Exploring the NWO' stage 3
and that you realise that all people
in power are there due to ptb
but i'm surprised none of you can accept
that once there, it is feasible an incumbent
could turn..
personally, i believe Brown has a vision
but i believe its quite radical
and thats why he hasnt been able to
put it forward yet.
remember he lectured in politics at Edinburgh University
and was their youngest ever Rector,
that would not happen if he wasnt capable.
it is not his character to schmooze his way thru
the media age
he is pure substance over style
unlike Blair who was a lot more style than substance
but if you can accept that, i believe you
will find a man more than capable
erudite, competent and fair
and totally devoid of fluff
in short, a God-send for our times
when more than ever we need straight-forwardness
he has my support and my hope is he survives
this plot and i will not be surprised to see
a genuine star, if he's ever allowed to get
into his stride.
i do not say this because of party loyalty
i'm generally apolitical
on the side of what works, is reasonable and right.
i see great things in him and i hope to see
them realised
at the moment there is no better option
and if we were wise we would see through
this chicanery and realise why he is being targeted..
cornilouse
07-06-2009, 10:39 PM
Brown is a muppet puppet.
not if he's anti- nwo
there is no proof that he is anti-nwo, but his attendance at certain meeting suggest otherwise
He was a terrible Chancellor, massively increasing borrowing
hes only massively increased borrowing to
prevent the banks collapsing
borrowing was already increased before the "banking crisis", borrowing to spend is a labour policy - look at history
and selling off the UK's gold at rock bottom price.
yes, that was a bit bizarre
maybe 'they' wanted him to
someone made big profits on that gold, wasn't the uk - so who?
He has to be one of the worst PMs ever
so why r ptb out to get him?
out-to get him?, he is just receiving bad press - to allow cameron in, no one is protesting outside westminster
the bank bail out alone should be enough reason to send him packing,
what wd u hav done?
how about let them fail, the uk to switched all borrowing from private banks to a governemnt enitiy, which lends at no intrest - the end to private banking
not to mention the small matter of his presiding over the turning of our country into a police state.
all countries r being turned into a police state
its not HIM
its them
he signed the Lisbon Treaty which effectively hands over Sovereignty to Europe,
i agree, all countries are heading towards police states, technology has moved forward and now allows this
all countries hav to sign
its not HIM
its them
Not true, all countries have to sign it for the bill to be passed - this will not be the same after the treaty. Britain should have taken a simalar route like ireland took[/B]
who r controlled by ptb
Of course the media are having a swipe at him now, as they are aware many of the electorate have woken up to the true nature of Brown and New Labour,
wrong media r against him coz he went against nwo
if my info is correct..
but this is also to help enable the smooth transition of power to Cameron
it is irrelevant who the media like or do not, they are the same as government - there is no free media
or, its to punish him
or more importantly to get rid of him
coz if wot ive heard is correct
he n 1 or 2 others have seriously f**ked up their plans..
what have you heard, from who- your mate down the pub - all plans are progressing smoothly, Gorden Brown is of little importance nationally or internationally
cheers!
cornilouse
07-06-2009, 10:43 PM
i havnt got time to deal with all the posts that
were directed at me now
but i'll say this
none of you, as far as i can see,
seem capable of considering that Brown
may be the recipient of a vendetta
i'm very glad to see you've all passed
'Exploring the NWO' stage 3
and that you realise that all people
in power are there due to ptb
but i'm surprised none of you can accept
that once there, it is feasible an incumbent
could turn..
personally, i believe Brown has a vision
but i believe its quite radical
and thats why he hasnt been able to
put it forward yet.
remember he lectured in politics at Edinburgh University
and was their youngest ever Rector,
that would not happen if he wasnt capable.
it is not his character to schmooze his way thru
the media age
he is pure substance over style
unlike Blair who was a lot more style than substance
but if you can accept that, i believe you
will find a man more than capable
erudite, competent and fair
and totally devoid of fluff
in short, a God-send for our times
when more than ever we need straight-forwardness
he has my support and my hope is he survives
this plot and i will not be surprised to see
a genuine star, if he's ever allowed to get
into his stride.
i do not say this because of party loyalty
i'm generally apolitical
on the side of what works, is reasonable and right.
i see great things in him and i hope to see
them realised
at the moment there is no better option
and if we were wise we would see through
this chicanery and realise why he is being targeted..
there is no proof that he has changed his ways
how has anybody sucsessfully explored the NWO, we dont even know who, how or why's about it
guuna
07-06-2009, 11:18 PM
Let's see then.
Brown is pro-new world order. There's no doubt about this whatsoever. He's stated it brazenly himself on many an occasion.
Brown is turnining the UK into a police/ east German Stasi style dictatorship, the evidence of this is all around, cctv cameras, thought crimes, controlled press and media.
Brown has squandered trillions of the taxpayers hard earned tax £'s to prop-up NWO/iLLuminati banks, whilst chancellor of the exchegquer he sold off the UK'S gold reserves at the bottom of the market in 2006.
I could go on.
'one of the good guys' is he?:rolleyes:
armchair philosopher
07-06-2009, 11:27 PM
It's my view that most, if not all, major politicians (including Brown) are not in on the bigger agenda - they are simply at the mercy of it. I suspect part of being a politician is at some point learning that you are ultimately controlled by banks and corporations and you have to do your best to work with that.
Brown has tried to bring in policies that *could* spare the country from the worst-case scenario, however misguided they may or may not be. In the meantime the bankers - the real controllers of this country - are rubbing their hands with glee whatever happens, because they are already made.
I find that an easier and more likely scenario than Brown taking a leading role in driving this country down. I think that would considered be too risky by the people who really want that.
jesuitsdidit
07-06-2009, 11:37 PM
there is no proof that he has changed his ways
how has anybody sucsessfully explored the NWO, we dont even know who, how or why's about it
there is no proof that he has changed his ways
there is some,
but its not in the public domain
explored the NWO, we dont even know who, how or why's about it
some of us do..
jesuitsdidit
07-06-2009, 11:42 PM
Let's see then.
Brown is pro-new world order. There's no doubt about this whatsoever. He's stated it brazenly himself on many an occasion.
Brown is turnining the UK into a police/ east German Stasi style dictatorship, the evidence of this is all around, cctv cameras, thought crimes, controlled press and media.
Brown has squandered trillions of the taxpayers hard earned tax £'s to prop-up NWO/iLLuminati banks, whilst chancellor of the exchegquer he sold off the UK'S gold reserves at the bottom of the market in 2006.
I could go on.
'one of the good guys' is he?:rolleyes:
Brown is pro-new world order. There's no doubt about this whatsoever. He's stated it brazenly himself on many an occasion.
he was
thats how he got to be PM
Brown is turnining the UK into a police/ east German Stasi style dictatorship, the evidence of this is all around, cctv cameras, thought crimes, controlled press and media.
no surprise there
all leaders must do this
Brown has squandered trillions of the taxpayers hard earned tax £'s to prop-up NWO/iLLuminati banks,
letting the banks fail was not an option
at the time
whilst chancellor of the exchegquer he sold off the UK'S gold reserves at the bottom of the market in 2006.
ive already covered this
u r repeating yourselves
smoke n mirrors
07-06-2009, 11:52 PM
there is no proof that he has changed his ways
there is some,
but its not in the public domain
Well if you are privy to this information this is you big moment to share!
explored the NWO, we dont even know who, how or why's about it
some of us do..
Well if you are privy to this information this is you big moment to share!
You still haven't addressed, the other issues and flaws in your argument presented, by other posters in this thread!
Hearsay isn't worth the pixels its written with.
If he wasn't selling us down the EU sewer, he would have signed the treat Micky Bloody Mouse and the Queen would have signed as Mini.
It should have been put to a referendum. Politicians are fully aware that thats what the public want. They are also aware that we would say NO!
If he had a spine, he would have held a referendum, especially if as you claim he is sweetness and light.
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smoke n mirrors
07-06-2009, 11:58 PM
Brown is pro-new world order. There's no doubt about this whatsoever. He's stated it brazenly himself on many an occasion.
he was
thats how he got to be PM
Brown is turnining the UK into a police/ east German Stasi style dictatorship, the evidence of this is all around, cctv cameras, thought crimes, controlled press and media.
no surprise there
all leaders must do this
Brown has squandered trillions of the taxpayers hard earned tax £'s to prop-up NWO/iLLuminati banks,
letting the banks fail was not an option
at the time
whilst chancellor of the exchegquer he sold off the UK'S gold reserves at the bottom of the market in 2006.
ive already covered this
u r repeating yourselves
If anyone has got the record stuck its you, go back over your posts in this thread. You will find nothing of substance but plenty of BS...Geezzz whats your problem? Lack of evidence perhaps? :eek:
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adbasque
08-06-2009, 01:17 AM
If anyone has got the record stuck its you, go back over your posts in this thread. You will find nothing of substance but plenty of BS...Geezzz whats your problem? Lack of evidence perhaps? :eek:
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hein?? I am lost here lol
Ok, Gordon may not be one of the most charismatic guys on the planet...but I don't think I have ever witnessed one man have such a public kicking in my entire life.....There is a huge agenda to get this guy out from every angle.
But there is absolutely NO alternative in the Labour party.
Everyone taking a swipe, the papers, the news, his cabinet, that silly bitch who played the sexism card when overlooked for a job, every comedy panel show.
I'm sure he must be a man in turmoil and experiencing right now what most of us couldn't comprehend....
I actually feel very sorry for the guy for the 1st time, and I actually have developed a certain kind of respect for his durability and stubborness.
Many would have broken by now.
I just want to take a step back from this bandwagon, that's all and find out what everyone else thinks....
I have maybe learnt to take a step back when any story or agenda in the mainstrem now comes up....
Fear not, this man will be crying all the way to the bank. That is if he were capable of any feelings. You're projecting a human personality onto him, he is just a puppet, he just puts forward the policies of his masters.
smoke n mirrors
08-06-2009, 01:42 AM
hein?? I am lost here lol
jesuitsdidit accuses us of repeating ourselves. If you look at his posts its quiet clear who is the repeater.
His post are all based on some bogus claim that GB is some sort of guardian angle of the masses. Hearsay in the absence of proof.
Hope that clears things up. :)
jesuitsdidit
08-06-2009, 01:47 AM
If he wasn't selling us down the EU sewer, he would have signed the treat Micky Bloody Mouse and the Queen would have signed as Mini.
its not a treat
its a treaty
yes, the EU
is one of the 5 regional building blocks
to the world-wide super-state
and for that reason must be resisted and destroyed
we will only see more and more
infiltration into our daily lives,
our rights and our liberties
by now you shd know what the agenda is
there is nothing good about the EU
which btw stands for
Extremely Unpleasant..
jesuitsdidit
08-06-2009, 01:53 AM
His post are all based on some bogus claim that GB is some sort of guardian angle of the masses.
its something ive been told
i dont know the details
so you can take it or leave it
at least, maybe, you shd consider it..
Hope that clears things up. :)
smoke n mirrors
08-06-2009, 01:57 AM
its not a treat
its a treaty
yes, the EU
is one of the 5 regional building blocks
to the world-wide super-state
and for that reason must be resisted and destroyed
we will only see more and more
infiltration into our daily lives,
our rights and our liberties
by now you shd know what the agenda is
there is nothing good about the EU
which btw stands for
Extremely Unpleasant..
Thanks for the enlightenment. How about you flesh out the crap, you were spouting off about earlier in this thread. Thats if there is any substance! :rolleyes:
Toot toot,
adbasque
08-06-2009, 02:05 AM
its something ive been told
i dont know the details
so you can take it or leave it
at least, maybe, you shd consider it..
Hope that clears things up. :)
Sorry to disappoint you, but Britain is perhaps at the top of the pyramid, most people think that USA leads?
USA is the stick that Britain uses to strike with, nothing more.
When we talk about Britain/USA don't include the people, we mean the governments and the Elite themselves.
So Britain is one of the major NWO if not THE so make no mistake, I love my country too, but it won't help me sticking my head in the sand, accusing EU or anybody else.
Yes Nobody want to be part od the EU, they pulled us there with the carped under our feet, because we didn't say NO to it, they were pulling it bit by bit.
Until we woke up right in the heart of EU.
But Britain is no guardian angel, we have the most racist people in power, yes our beloved queen and her family.
adbasque
08-06-2009, 02:13 AM
we will only see more and more
infiltration into our daily lives,
our rights and our liberties
.
That's a global agenda
smoke n mirrors
08-06-2009, 02:26 AM
its something ive been told
i dont know the details
YOU DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS? Have you lost the plot?
so you can take it or leave it
Think I will leave it!
at least, maybe, you shd consider it.. (shd is that a word?)
Ye right I considered it and my consideration resulted in a big blip on the bull shit meter. So you can poke it. :)
Hope that clears things up. :)
Yes mate its clear as mud now so objective achieved you can go back to sleep now. ;)
Nice to see you swerved past qualifying, all the other drivel you pored out in defense of the cretinous traitor BROWN, GORDON.
If this post of yours is anything to go by I understand why you took that decision.
Toot toot me old fruit,
rydeon
08-06-2009, 02:27 AM
I'd like whatever the OP is smoking cause he must be high as a kite when he posted that :D
smoke n mirrors
08-06-2009, 02:36 AM
I'd like whatever the OP is smoking cause he must be high as a kite when he posted that :D
Mate you want to get some of the shit the jesuitsdidit is on. Then you will see all kinds of freaky shit. It does have a major side effect though, you will post nothing but bollocks after one puff. :D Always read the label.
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adbasque
08-06-2009, 02:39 AM
mate you want to get some of the shit the jesuitsdidit is on. Then you will see all kinds of freaky shit. It does have a major side effect though, you will post nothing but bollocks after one puff. :d always read the label.
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lolll
adbasque
08-06-2009, 02:42 AM
Mate you want to get some of the shit the jesuitsdidit is on. Then you will see all kinds of freaky shit. It does have a major side effect though, you will post nothing but bollocks after one puff. :D Always read the label.
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Slightly off topic here if I may lol
Have you watched the clip with Cohen and Madona?
Is you madona?
him driving a limo
And another music clip in Jamaica at the end of the clip, they offered him that big woman? :D
that was funny
smoke n mirrors
08-06-2009, 02:47 AM
Slightly off topic here if I may lol
Have you watched the clip with Cohen and Madona?
Is you madona?
him driving a limo
And another music clip in Jamaica at the end of the clip, they offered him that big woman? :D
that was funny
No cant say I have. I normally give the Cohen, a wide berth as he makes me feel physically sick. :(
I will take your word on it though. :)
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surfer91
08-06-2009, 02:55 AM
Now I dont normally say things like this about anyone but Gordon Brown is the slimiest piece of shit that has ever walked this earth,and Tony Bliar and the rest follow through...
adbasque
08-06-2009, 03:51 AM
Now I dont normally say things like this about anyone but Gordon Brown is the slimiest piece of shit that has ever walked this earth,and Tony Bliar and the rest follow through...
No in my book it's Tony B'liar first and Brown second, seriously he started all this shit, tony blair for me is the slimiest, well both the same anyway
lizzy
08-06-2009, 04:21 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/5462215/Gordon-Brown-to-announce-Iraq-War-inquiry.html
WOW!!!!
The penny drops!!!!
The Telegraph again!
He is/was going to launch an enquiry into the Iraq war.
Thoughts anyone?
....a question......do you have any masonic affiliations :eek: LOL.....
edit / add.....Brown thought he was gunna be first Lab PM in 18yrs.....but sly dog tricked him outta of it......but as Chancellor he had his hands on everything.......slydog B'lair has his UN / elite pay-off / nwo Brown -noser will get his too....perhaps the IMF or world bank..yummy.LOL
ritchs
08-06-2009, 06:12 AM
How do WE know that Blair and Brown didnt get on ? The mainstream media told us so. Blair and Brown are actors. Did Brown want the war in Iraq ? He is just a puppet. Simple as that. The PTB have TOTAL control of their puppets, and do ANYTHING they wish if it forwards their agenda.
Tis True. How do we know these lying liars are not bosom buddies, like Clinton and Papa Bush are now best buddies. All a show, a spectacle for the public consumption. Viciously at each others throats on the telly like actors in a script. Having knee slapping laughs at us sheep over drinks and cigars in the evening. "Did you see how those dumb sheeps lapped that up" Hohohoho....All an illusion, like the two party system where the banks own both parties in ironclad control, along with the media. hahahaha a good one! The jokes on you and me
lizzy
08-06-2009, 06:26 AM
^^ yes.....I'm just reguritating hearsay ;)...( that brown nose resented b'lair) :eek:
magicmerlin
08-06-2009, 08:24 AM
I think Bush and Blair got pretty well :rolleyes:, I think Oboma and Cameron would get on rather well :rolleyes:
smoke n mirrors
08-06-2009, 12:04 PM
I think Bush and Blair got pretty well :rolleyes:, I think Oboma and Cameron would get on rather well :rolleyes:
Well we wouldn't want too damage the "special relationship" now would we? Not after all the centuries successive, UK and US puppet masters have spent cultivating the whole charade. :rolleyes:
If the Labour party ever had any credibility it died when Robbin Cook resigned. Then he was subsequently murdered, on a remote hill owned by the Duke of Westminster, a well known supporter of the MoD, in fact very active at the highest level. The police undertook no investigation. The main witness remain anonymous, plus conflicting reports of other parties present on the remote hill. A hill which generally sees little or no activity from walkers and the like. Mr Cook never struck me as being in poor shape...in fact he looked like a tough old goat, well suited to mountain conditions. I was never a fan of Mr Cook when he was an active member of parliament. In hindsight he was probably the best man we could have had! He has my utmost respect for demonstrating his convictions.
Instead of debating what should happen to BROWN, GORDON who is already a lame duck and soon to outed.
We should be out there raising awareness in the public eye about the creepy Cameron. If we want to make a difference our objective should be to expose Cameron for what he is. Cameron is related to the royal bloodline, and no doubt the 33 deg Mason connected to the Scottish Cameron clan.
He is also groomed by the Bilderberg's. Who incidentally could well hold their next meeting in the UK, Scotland, NI or the Isl of Man. Its no doubt going to be a big year for them in 2010 as they like to plan ahead.
If we want to actually do something, that will upset the cart we need to dig everything up on this slimy shit, and start posting on every site on the web from the WI to TV Quick. They cant afford for Cameron to fail they have invested too much in his cause. They won't have time to recover if he is derailed in time because they think its a done deal. :rolleyes:
We should be dining on fresh meat and not scavenging on a dead corpse!
Sorry if thats dragged this off topic, maybe I should have started a new thread.
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Have you ever heard of the International Visitor Leadership Program?
History
1940 – Nelson Rockefeller was named the Coordinator of Commercial and Cultural Affairs for the American Republics. He initiated the exchange of persons program with Latin America, inviting 130 Latin American journalists to the United States.
February, 1942 – A network of fourteen private shortwave transmitters began broadcasting the newly created Voice of America.
June, 1942 – The Office of War Information (OWI) was established to consolidate scattered agencies of domestic and foreign information.
1946 – OWI was terminated by President Truman, and a small remnant was placed within the State Department. The wartime total of 11,000 personnel shrank to 3,000 including the Voice of America. Within the State Department, the Office of International Information and Cultural Affairs (OIC) in 1946 had a network of 76 branches the world over. Wireless files carried daily news and feature stories from Washington. Sixty-seven information centers and libraries stocked books, displayed exhibits and showed films. The Voice of America broadcasted to the world for a total of 36 hours in 24 languages.
1947 – OIC was renamed the Office of International Information and Educational Exchange.
1948 – Representative Karl E. Mundt and Senator H. Alexander Smith marshaled a bill through Congress. Public Law 402, 80th Congress, commonly called the Smith-Mundt Act, established a statutory information agency for the first time in a period of peace with a mission to "promote a better understanding of the United States in other countries, and to increase mutual understanding" between Americans and foreigners. The Smith-Mundt Act gave full recognition to the importance of educational and cultural exchanges sponsored by the government. In recognition of the need to build up a corps of well-informed intellectuals and opinion leaders in the political and social infrastructure, the International Visitor Program was started.
1952 – The program was consolidated into the exchange of persons program of the State Department.
1953 – President Eisenhower submitted Reorganization Plan Number 8 to Congress which established the United States Information Agency (USIA) to consolidate information functions administered by the State Department and other agencies. The Voice of America was joined to USIA but the educational and cultural exchanges remained with the State Department.
1959 – The exchange function was separated from the Bureau of Public Affairs and was assigned to a newly created Bureau of Educational and Cultural Relations (CU).
1961 – Fulbright-Hays Act is passed and reaffirms the objective of increasing mutual understanding between the people of the United States and the people of other nations.
1978 – USIA is renamed the United States International Communication Agency (USICA) with responsibility for the public diplomacy of the U.S. It combined the information mission with the educational and cultural exchanges through absorbing the Bureau of Educational and Cultural Relations from the State Department.
1982 – The Reagan Administration changed the name back to the United States Information Agency.
1999 – USIA is moved into the U.S. Department of State. The Bureau of Educational and Cultural Affairs maintains its authority under the Fulbright-Hays Act. The International Visitor Program continues under the Bureau.
2004 - The International Visitor Program's name changed to The International Visitor Leadership Program. Over 4500 visitors participated in the International Visitor Leadership Program from October 2003 – September 2004.
All the names you just read should ring alarm bells. Now then, check the link to the list below and see how many of today's leaders all attended this school and are therefore puppets of the people that run this Program; big Illuminati names. As you can see mr Gordon Brown is on the list too:
Fifty-nine (59) Chiefs of State and Current Heads of Government are International Visitor Leadership Program Alumni. (http://exchanges.state.gov/ivlp/alumni.html)
All of todays leaders are schooled and trained and selected by the Illuminati. We think they all appear 'out of the blue' and become our leaders. They don't. Their leadership is carefully planned and then executed at the right time.
Just look at the Prime-Minister of my country the Netherlands:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/Balkenende_Dutch_politician_kabinet_Balkenende_IV. jpg
He participated in 1985. The same year Sarkozy of France participated. In 2002 he became Prime-Minister of the Netherlands and still holds that position today.
And the list just shows the people show are in control at this moment. You can see it's all over the world. Tony Blair participated in this program too, but he's not on the list anymore since he's out of office.
drhemp
08-06-2009, 12:36 PM
Isn't that Harry Potter?
tintin
08-06-2009, 12:44 PM
Brown is pro-new world order. There's no doubt about this whatsoever. He's stated it brazenly himself on many an occasion.
he was
thats how he got to be PM
Brown is turnining the UK into a police/ east German Stasi style dictatorship, the evidence of this is all around, cctv cameras, thought crimes, controlled press and media.
no surprise there
all leaders must do this
Brown has squandered trillions of the taxpayers hard earned tax £'s to prop-up NWO/iLLuminati banks,
letting the banks fail was not an option
at the time
whilst chancellor of the exchegquer he sold off the UK'S gold reserves at the bottom of the market in 2006.
ive already covered this
u r repeating yourselves
Yeah Brown WAS pro NWO and is now suddely a good guy.
Yeah, have heard him talk about 911 and how it all was
a set up.
I even heard Brown talking about the LONDON BOMBINGS and
heard him say that AL QAEDA just doesn't exist.
He told on LIVE TV that all the british soldiers
in AFGHANISTAN died for some BOGUS reason
and that it's a complete NONSENSE WAR.
Heard him announcing today that he will
immediately stop the British invovement in AFGHANISTAN.
Finally he stands up against the NWO.
Even OBAMA is standing up against the ROTHSCHILDS.
Obama is very clever,.
First he played the game and now he is
in an all out war gainst the NWO.
Just like GORDON BROWN.
I also have heard (no confirmation yet though) that TONY BLAIR
is also against the NWO.
I would have never dreamt it would have been possible.
Yet it happened.
What glorious times we live in.
You can only stand up to the BOYZ when you are in the business
yourselves. You have to sell your SOUL first and after that you can BUY it back with money created out of thin air.
that's exactly how GORDON brown bought back his soul.
Actually he bought back his soul with all the money
he got from selling half the british GOLD at the absolute BOTTOM PRICE.
But even all this money was not enough and he had
to steel a lot a TAXPAYERS Money.
That he did and that's extremely clever of him.
Just as the JEWS are not as CLEVER as they look.
(that's a fact)
Gordon Brown is very friendly as well and that proves he is ANTI NWO.
see how he is attacked?
What is the reason for that?
He does nothing wrong?
What more proof do we need?
drhemp
08-06-2009, 12:49 PM
Well thank you for at least making me laugh!
itsallinus
08-06-2009, 02:09 PM
Interesting angle tintin, but if brown needed so much money to buy his soul back, how much was it worth in the first place? And did he sell one of his eyes to help pay for it? Every penny counts!!!:p
I see where your coming from and Hoagland did that presentation about Obama and 2012, got me thinking he could be a usurper but I'm not won over yet, not by a looooong shot..we'll see
tintin
08-06-2009, 02:32 PM
Interesting angle tintin, but if brown needed so much money to buy his soul back, how much was it worth in the first place? And did he sell one of his eyes to help pay for it? Every penny counts!!!:p
I see where your coming from and Hoagland did that presentation about Obama and 2012, got me thinking he could be a usurper but I'm not won over yet, not by a looooong shot..we'll see
Thanks Dr Hemp,
This is how I see things.
I see CHRISTIANITY as the only solution in the world.
the moment Brown would convert to a Christian (in his heart)
then I would forgive him and he could start all over again.
The world is a MADHOUSE and who are we to judge other people.
Forgiveness is the only road to PEACE.
Look at ISRAEL and you see what the opposite means.
Christianity is very simple.
Love and forgiveness.
Even forgiving your own mistakes, because you
haven't asked to be in this world.
You just happen to be here.
Every day is a new beginning.
But once you have sold your soul to the Devil, it's difficult
to get out of it.
It's just not a smart thing to do.....
And as for Brown?
Think he is a lost cause.....
Already too much blood on his hands.
Maybe even God has limits in how much he can forgive EVIL....
You wil pay a price, anyhow.....
If you KNOW you commit CRIMES, yet you still continue...
That's where GOD will step in.
jesuitsdidit
08-06-2009, 05:38 PM
Tis True. How do we know these lying liars are not bosom buddies, like Clinton and Papa Bush are now best buddies. All a show, a spectacle for the public consumption. Viciously at each others throats on the telly like actors in a script. Having knee slapping laughs at us sheep over drinks and cigars in the evening. "Did you see how those dumb sheeps lapped that up" Hohohoho....All an illusion, like the two party system where the banks own both parties in ironclad control, along with the media. hahahaha a good one! The jokes on you and me
i cant believe how ill-informed
some of you are
anyone who was awake at the time
would know the relationship between
Brown and Blair was about as bad as it gets
am i the only one on here who is at all informed?
and the fact that not only do you
have one of those stupid luciferian avatars
plus the fact you consort with real truthers
like steevo
indicate to me that you probably
arent on the same side as me
but, like all agents are here to mislead
btw
b4 i get bashed by the mods for discussing agents,
who on here wd find it an insult
to be questioned about their purposes?
i wd hav thought a real truth-seeker wd laugh
and be pleased that someone was alert
rather than being defensive and upset??
right or wrong??
steevo
08-06-2009, 05:41 PM
i cant believe how ill-informed
some of you are
anyone who was awake at the time
would know the relationship between
Brown and Blair was about as bad as it gets
am i the only one on here who is at all informed?
and the fact that not only do you
have one of those stupid luciferian avatars
plus the fact you consort with real truthers
like steevo
indicate to me that you probably
arent on the same side as me
but, like all agents are here to mislead
btw
b4 i get bashed by the mods for discussing agents,
who on here wd find it an insult
to be questioned about their purposes?
i wd hav thought a real truth-seeker wd laugh
and be pleased that someone was alert
rather than being defensive and upset??
right or wrong??
Are you being a creepy stalker again ?
itsallinus
08-06-2009, 05:41 PM
Ummm, I have never seen any god step in when people have done terrible things before, so I doubt that god will do anything now.
Christianity is a personal thing anyway, everyone has a different perspective on it and only believe parts of it that suit themselves.
Brown will one day realize he is his own punishment.:D
jesuitsdidit
08-06-2009, 05:43 PM
and all the idiots who've fallen
for the plot
hook, line and sinker
are the ones who've let the BNP
into parliament
and who will no doubt facilitate
the exit of Gordon Brown
much to the glee of the ptb.. *SIGH*
itsallinus
08-06-2009, 05:44 PM
Christianity is very simple.
Love and forgiveness.
And don't forget to give your own responsibility/energy/power away you evil sinner from birth!
and justice for all
08-06-2009, 05:46 PM
Have you lost marbles? What the hell is going on with you people??? Brown one of the good guys, BNP are anti-illuminati, Obama is a goodie only they don’t allow him to do what he really wants...
Seriously!
jesuitsdidit
08-06-2009, 05:49 PM
and all the idiots who've fallen
for the plot
hook, line and sinker
are the ones who've let the BNP
into parliament
and who will no doubt facilitate
the exit of Gordon Brown
much to the glee of the ptb.. *SIGH*
and for those who clearly
arent very well informed
Nick Griffin went to Cambridge
do you honestly think
a Cambridge graduate
wd become leader of the BNP
perhaps its another control-job
like Farage at UKIP??
but you'll just swallow all the crap
and play right into their hands wont you??
guess i'll have to do it on my own.. *SIGH*
tintin
08-06-2009, 05:59 PM
And don't forget to give your own responsibility/energy/power away you evil sinner from birth!
Evil sinner at birth?
What has some Roman Catholic brainwashing teachings
to do with me being an evil sinner from birth?
Making mistakes is part of life.
Doesn't make you a sinner.
I happen to believe in a CREATOR GOD.
I see GENIUS in the creation.
And this GENIUS is GOD.
(Don't understand GOD all the time but that's
why he is GOD and I am me.)
I also happen to believe that you cannot CREATE
anything out of NOTHING.
There is this force that CREATED it all.
itsallinus
08-06-2009, 06:05 PM
Evil sinner at birth?
What has some Roman Catholic brainwashing teachings
to do with me being an evil sinner from birth?
I thought it was common knowledge that christians believe when your born your already a sinner and must be 'saved' or baptized/christened.
Sorry tintin, was not a personal attack at you! Each to their own beliefs etc..
tintin
08-06-2009, 06:08 PM
Have you lost marbles? What the hell is going on with you people??? Brown one of the good guys, BNP are anti-illuminati, Obama is a goodie only they don’t allow him to do what he really wants...
Seriously!
Yeah, agree, it's also beyond me....
You also read a lot of times that some of those
guys HAD TO GO ALONG to play the game, but once
in power they change.
In general PEOPLE don't change in their entire life.
Politics is a CRIMINAL business.
Gordon Brown has a lot of BLOOD on his hands.
And it's as in the MAFIA.
Once you'r in it, you will only leave in a COFFIN.
Ha,ha, the ILLUMI must be very afraid now that GORDON BROWN
has turned against them.
http://images.askmen.com/celebs/men/business_politics/gordon-brown/large_image-1.jpg
"Be very afraid Illumi, I
am going after you!"
smoke n mirrors
08-06-2009, 06:15 PM
am i the only one on here who is at all informed?
Assumption is the mother of bull shiters.
Since when did spamming equal being informed? :confused:
I think your trite posts in this thread have been very enlightening and well evidenced. Thank you so much...I believe I now have a heightened awareness, when it comes to sniffing out BS. ;)
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?pictureid=3557&albumid=381&dl=1241298841&thumb=1
From GB with all his blessing.
Toot toot me fruit,
and justice for all
08-06-2009, 06:18 PM
...Ha,ha, the ILLUMI must be very afraid now that GORDON BROWN
has turned against them.
:DLoL!:D
tintin
08-06-2009, 06:19 PM
Are you being a creepy stalker again ?
I have to watch out here Steevo,
Agreeing with you makes me guilty by association from now on! :D
drhemp
08-06-2009, 06:20 PM
am i the only one on here who is at all informed?
It seems you are the only one on here who thinks Gordon Brown is one of the good guys and not working for the New World Order.
adbasque
08-06-2009, 06:55 PM
Tis True. How do we know these lying liars are not bosom buddies, like Clinton and Papa Bush are now best buddies. All a show, a spectacle for the public consumption. Viciously at each others throats on the telly like actors in a script. Having knee slapping laughs at us sheep over drinks and cigars in the evening. "Did you see how those dumb sheeps lapped that up" Hohohoho....All an illusion, like the two party system where the banks own both parties in ironclad control, along with the media. hahahaha a good one! The jokes on you and me
They are not just buddies most of them are blood related
Yes real actors
:)
adbasque
08-06-2009, 07:10 PM
Brown is pro-new world order. There's no doubt about this whatsoever. He's stated it brazenly himself on many an occasion.
he was
thats how he got to be PM
Brown is turnining the UK into a police/ east German Stasi style dictatorship, the evidence of this is all around, cctv cameras, thought crimes, controlled press and media.
no surprise there
all leaders must do this
Brown has squandered trillions of the taxpayers hard earned tax £'s to prop-up NWO/iLLuminati banks,
letting the banks fail was not an option
at the time
whilst chancellor of the exchegquer he sold off the UK'S gold reserves at the bottom of the market in 2006.
ive already covered this
u r repeating yourselves
I think I understand what you're trying to say and what the other guys here are saying.
If I am wrong don't you guys start throwing rotten tomatoes at me or eggs.
What Jesuitsdidit is saying (I think)
is that Brown had to comply with them to be a Prime Minister, all politicians have to agree with their agenda otherwise they won't make it in politics.
And I think what he is on, is about the EU to pull out of the EU and then sort out our domestic crisis, elect our own government, that we can control.
The first thing, that doesn't excuse any politician to agree to their agenda and carry out their agenda and then when things turn sour, you expect the same people (British) to save you and help you, because he betrayed the British people, so nobody will have any sympathy for him.
He was a puppet (still is) now they turned against him, he is trying to win the British people, so that makes him even more smilier than others, he is not taking it on the chin.
Before that he was very happy running around the world to complete the deals for their agenda, now he want us to feel sorry for him>? C'mon man.
Yes the EU is a problem, so long as we still in the EU it will be very hard to do anything in relation of changing our British system, because it's no longer the British people in charge it's Brussels, and it's every other nation's problem not just Britain.
But Jesuitsdidit I don't think anyone on this forum denies the fact that we need to pull out of EU
Even the sheeple out there don't believe in the EU fascist regime, what we call a bleeding obvious
tintin
08-06-2009, 07:55 PM
I think I understand what you're trying to say and what the other guys here are saying.
If I am wrong don't you guys start throwing rotten tomatoes at me or eggs.
What Jesuitsdidit is saying (I think)
is that Brown had to comply with them to be a Prime Minister, all politicians have to agree with their agenda otherwise they won't make it in politics.
And I think what he is on, is about the EU to pull out of the EU and then sort out our domestic crisis, elect our own government, that we can control.
The first thing, that doesn't excuse any politician to agree to their agenda and carry out their agenda and then when things turn sour, you expect the same people (British) to save you and help you, because he betrayed the British people, so nobody will have any sympathy for him.
He was a puppet (still is) now they turned against him, he is trying to win the British people, so that makes him even more smilier than others, he is not taking it on the chin.
Before that he was very happy running around the world to complete the deals for their agenda, now he want us to feel sorry for him>? C'mon man.
Yes the EU is a problem, so long as we still in the EU it will be very hard to do anything in relation of changing our British system, because it's no longer the British people in charge it's Brussels, and it's every other nation's problem not just Britain.
But Jesuitsdidit I don't think anyone on this forum denies the fact that we need to pull out of EU
Even the sheeple out there don't believe in the EU fascist regime, what we call a bleeding obvious
If you comply to become British Prime minister......
What does that mean.
That you BECOME A MASS MURDERER.
Whatever there is to change, once you have committed MASS MURDER
you will stay a MURDERER for ever.
That seems to me a HEAVY PRICE to pay.....
chaste
08-06-2009, 10:26 PM
It would be really nice to believe Brown is one of the good guys but there are just so many reasons to doubt this:
"What makes Brown's decision in January 2008 to give the goahead to a new generation of nuclear plants politically sensitive is that his younger brother Andrew Brown works for EDF Energy, the UK subsidiary of EDF, which is one of the leading companies pushing for a nuclear rebuild programme in the UK."
http://www.spinprofiles.org/index.php/Nuclear_Spin
The most positive thing I could say is probably that I wish it were Tony Blair in this situation right now. Talking of Blair - does anyone know where to find that picture of Tony and Gordon holding hands under the table?
leviathanstaar
08-06-2009, 10:34 PM
Gordon Brown's name became an obvious staple of corruption in the mouth of the commoner.
This is why the others all 'pretend' they want him out.
Dont you notice him laughing as other people spout rehearsed insults at him?
It's a show, so the people can say 'yeah stick it to him'
That's it.
adbasque
08-06-2009, 11:18 PM
If you comply to become British Prime minister......
What does that mean.
That you BECOME A MASS MURDERER.
Whatever there is to change, once you have committed MASS MURDER
you will stay a MURDERER for ever.
That seems to me a HEAVY PRICE to pay.....
Most definitely once a murderer always a murderer, yes it's huge price to pay, what do you think we call them whores?
Not only they sell their bodies but they do sell their souls too anything that is decent about human beings
ritchs
09-06-2009, 02:05 AM
i cant believe how ill-informed
some of you are
anyone who was awake at the time
would know the relationship between
Brown and Blair was about as bad as it gets
am i the only one on here who is at all informed?
and the fact that not only do you
have one of those stupid luciferian avatars
plus the fact you consort with real truthers
like steevo
indicate to me that you probably
arent on the same side as me
but, like all agents are here to mislead
btw
b4 i get bashed by the mods for discussing agents,
who on here wd find it an insult
to be questioned about their purposes?
i wd hav thought a real truth-seeker wd laugh
and be pleased that someone was alert
rather than being defensive and upset??
right or wrong??
If there is real friction and infighting between public figures, it only serves the purpose of creating the illusion of public debate and rivalry. I cannot believe that anyone cannot see that the public arena is almost totally locked down, the politicians bought and paid for, and just steering the public toward a nwo destination. These forums are the best place for debating and vetting out the mess of the world, and what sense we can make of the unseen invisible hand. I would not go off half cocked accusing people of being disinformation agents. We are all trying to get at the truth here, excepting the few low grade intelligence trolls that ply their trade in the forums. Divide and conquer, I guess, like agents provacateurs. Lets put our heads together rather than indulge personal attacks, which serve no purpose whatsoever.
adbasque
09-06-2009, 05:05 AM
If there is real friction and infighting between public figures, it only serves the purpose of creating the illusion of public debate and rivalry. I cannot believe that anyone cannot see that the public arena is almost totally locked down, the politicians bought and paid for, and just steering the public toward a nwo destination. These forums are the best place for debating and vetting out the mess of the world, and what sense we can make of the unseen invisible hand. I would not go off half cocked accusing people of being disinformation agents. We are all trying to get at the truth here, excepting the few low grade intelligence trolls that ply their trade in the forums. Divide and conquer, I guess, like agents provacateurs. Lets put our heads together rather than indulge personal attacks, which serve no purpose whatsoever.
Words of reason
Indeed man
Well said!
illuminatiman
09-06-2009, 09:17 AM
Words of reason
Indeed man
Well said!
Thats right!! it is theatre!!! Sheeple buy it though!!!
redman
09-06-2009, 12:04 PM
Don't feel sorry for the guy, he knows quite well whats happening. All the top politicians know whats happening. They are paving the way for the tories to get back in and then they will start banging the Change drum again.
And people will eat that shit up only to be left disgruntled and short changed in another 4 years time. Brown is a puppet banging on about how we need a new world order, soon as I hear that coming from someone then I tend to think he is rather a puppet who doesn't even know what the fuk the new world order is, or he is in on it. Either way you ain't going to get me feeling sorry for him when I hear all this contrived hatred towards him. It's all so blatantly fake media crap to sway peoples votes, actually this time round I actually think the media are going out their way to actually make less and less people vote. All's I know for sure is Conservitive will be back in power come the next election, how boring and predictable.
I for one will not be voting, never have and never will. Pointless fucking exercise.
redman
09-06-2009, 12:06 PM
If there is real friction and infighting between public figures, it only serves the purpose of creating the illusion of public debate and rivalry. I cannot believe that anyone cannot see that the public arena is almost totally locked down, the politicians bought and paid for, and just steering the public toward a nwo destination. These forums are the best place for debating and vetting out the mess of the world, and what sense we can make of the unseen invisible hand. I would not go off half cocked accusing people of being disinformation agents. We are all trying to get at the truth here, excepting the few low grade intelligence trolls that ply their trade in the forums. Divide and conquer, I guess, like agents provacateurs. Lets put our heads together rather than indulge personal attacks, which serve no purpose whatsoever.
Good post, my thoughts exactly.
bowtiedaddy
09-06-2009, 12:29 PM
i cant believe how ill-informed
some of you are
anyone who was awake at the time
would know the relationship between
Brown and Blair was about as bad as it gets
am i the only one on here who is at all informed?
and the fact that not only do you
have one of those stupid luciferian avatars
plus the fact you consort with real truthers
like steevo
indicate to me that you probably
arent on the same side as me
but, like all agents are here to mislead
btw
b4 i get bashed by the mods for discussing agents,
who on here wd find it an insult
to be questioned about their purposes?
i wd hav thought a real truth-seeker wd laugh
and be pleased that someone was alert
rather than being defensive and upset??
right or wrong??
Funny thing. I think Jesse Ventura put it the best. It's like World Wide Wrestling politics. They all pretend to have their little scuffles, but when the cameras are off, they're all best buds. For example. Putin is calling for the same New World Order as Obama... yet... look at this supposed split between nations, as if there was some sort of division.
The leaders who they aren't in bed with tend to have their countries either destroyed by the IMF or bombed into oblivion.
mrmoney
09-06-2009, 01:46 PM
All Gordon Brown ever does is call for a New World Order and continue all over their agendas.
He is NOT a good guy. He's simply being slammed because it's time for the new puppet to come in. THEY DO IT EVERY 5-10 YEARS!
I swear, some of you people need to read a bit more before making these comments.
Distraction only to take the heat of the expense eaters and as all eyes turn on Gordon the real crooks will be forgotton, where are the police enquires all i saw was the police escorting the crooks around like they were royalty...
drhemp
09-06-2009, 03:36 PM
Gordon Brown was given a job to do by the NWO which he has carried out as requested. His motives for doing this, I don't know, it seems when he was younger he had some principles, which have all been thrown out of the window now, maybe they have photos of him in an uncompromising position?
In any case, Gordon's job was to sign the Lisbon Treaty, introduce ID cards, further the transformation of the UK into a police state, and give billions to the banks. They are now setting him up big time to lose the next election and allow for the transfer of Number 10 to Cameron to maintain the illusion of democracy for the sheeple. The election will not be held until next year, as they need the Lisbon Treaty signed, which Cameron has said he would not sign without a referendum; once that's out the way and Napoleonic Law introduced and sovereignty signed over to Brussels, he can hand over to Cameron who will say he didn't agree with Lisbon, but it's too late now to un-sign it.
Our only hope is the Irish give them same answer when they are asked again, i.e., which would kill this awful treaty as the Poles and the Czech presidents have said they would not sign until the Irish ratify it. In any case it needs all 26 member states to sign for it to come into effect. The Tory Party would disintegrate if Cameron reneged on his promise to give a referendum on Lisbon, especially when you consider the meal he quite rightly made out of Labour breaking their election promise for a referendum; which is why they want to get it ratified as soon as possible.
Effectively, 800 years of Common Law, our sovereignty as a nation to determine our own laws, etc., will be handed away by Brown unless the Irish vote NO again. If the Lisbon Treaty is eventually ratified then Brown will go down as the most treacherous PM in history. Why do you think the expenses story suddenly came into the MSM, it was to keep the issue of Europe out of the Euro elections, because had they not done that then UKIP would have been the overall winners.
steevo
09-06-2009, 03:44 PM
On the voting slip, UKIP were listed right at the very bottom. This is very suitable cos when I ticked it, I was really saying "none of the above" :)
dixie d
09-06-2009, 04:12 PM
Gordon Brown was given a job to do by the NWO which he has carried out as requested. His motives for doing this, I don't know, it seems when he was younger he had some principles, which have all been thrown out of the window now, maybe they have photos of him in an uncompromising position?
In any case, Gordon's job was to sign the Lisbon Treaty, introduce ID cards, further the transformation of the UK into a police state, and give billions to the banks. They are now setting him up big time to lose the next election and allow for the transfer of Number 10 to Cameron to maintain the illusion of democracy for the sheeple. The election will not be held until next year, as they need the Lisbon Treaty signed, which Cameron has said he would not sign without a referendum; once that's out the way and Napoleonic Law introduced and sovereignty signed over to Brussels, he can hand over to Cameron who will say he didn't agree with Lisbon, but it's too late now to un-sign it.
Our only hope is the Irish give them same answer when they are asked again, i.e., which would kill this awful treaty as the Poles and the Czech presidents have said they would not sign until the Irish ratify it. In any case it needs all 26 member states to sign for it to come into effect. The Tory Party would disintegrate if Cameron reneged on his promise to give a referendum on Lisbon, especially when you consider the meal he quite rightly made out of Labour breaking their election promise for a referendum; which is why they want to get it ratified as soon as possible.
Effectively, 800 years of Common Law, our sovereignty as a nation to determine our own laws, etc., will be handed away by Brown unless the Irish vote NO again. If the Lisbon Treaty is eventually ratified then Brown will go down as the most treacherous PM in history. Why do you think the expenses story suddenly came into the MSM, it was to keep the issue of Europe out of the Euro elections, because had they not done that then UKIP would have been the overall winners.
Just to remind people of what I posted in the News Behind the News.
This is a personal plea to the people of IRELAND, and all its God fairing Christian people, you must stop fighting one another, bury your differences, and stand united. Whatever happens in June, with regards the vote to join the EU elections, you MUST vote NO! And you must not let our draconian governments pressure you into anything else. If the good people of Ireland accept the EU treaty, and join the EU, then, mark my words, you will be signing your own acceptance into a life of “SLAVERY” under the control of the Devil himself.
If you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and our God the father, then you must hold out with your NO! vote. This is the only way to expose the Evil that is in our world today. By doing this you will break a link that has been planned, and never ending for thousands of years. We must reveal the Devil for what he really is. The evil which has caused Gods people to suffer for thousands of years MUST BE STOPPED.
For once in your lives take control of your own minds, think for yourselves, and search your own hearts. Don’t allow yourselves to be influenced by the Devil through his mind controlled drones! If you value your freedom, then this is the only road to that freedom and to live the rest of your lives under the grace of God.
To all those within the press, parliament, banking and those within high status who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and our God the father, you must come out and speak, reveal the Devil for what he truly is. God be with us all.
Dixie :)
drhemp
09-06-2009, 04:51 PM
Just to remind people of what I posted in the News Behind the News.
Dixie :)
Hey what about us atheists? Dont' we need to unite too against this common enemy?
drhemp
09-06-2009, 04:59 PM
On the voting slip, UKIP were listed right at the very bottom. This is very suitable cos when I ticked it, I was really saying "none of the above" :)
Yes and what about the scandal of ballot papers folded so they didn't see UKIP on the ballot paper? They were warned not to do this by UKIP, but of course it was done anyway and people have since said they didn't vote UKIP because they couldn't find UKIP on the ballot box.
Reminds me many years ago in Devon when a Literal Democrat stopped the Liberal Democrats from beating the Conservatives on the last Euro election that used the First Past The Post voting system. They tried to get that overturned in the courts, but were unsuccessful. Strangely enough they changes the law when people started fielding Conversative Candidates or even The Official Labour Party Candidate, as the ruling said there was no copyright of political party names, as technically they voted for the person, not the party.
adbasque
09-06-2009, 07:17 PM
Funny thing. I think Jesse Ventura put it the best. It's like World Wide Wrestling politics. They all pretend to have their little scuffles, but when the cameras are off, they're all best buds. For example. Putin is calling for the same New World Order as Obama... yet... look at this supposed split between nations, as if there was some sort of division.
The leaders who they aren't in bed with tend to have their countries either destroyed by the IMF or bombed into oblivion.
That is exactly what they are, having a good laugh at our expense
the other reason why most Ministers have resigned so they won't get scrutinised for their expenses and probably some other embezzlement of the state's funds (ours)
So it's pretext to get out pretending they are unhappy with Brown and at the same time, it's time to bring in a "New Gov" in ;)
What is sad is people who honestly believe that they don't have a choice, but to have one or the other :(
dixie d
10-06-2009, 02:52 AM
Hey what about us atheists? Dont' we need to unite too against this common enemy?
Hi Drhemp,
Yes we do! However the reason I didn’t mention any other religion was because Ireland have been fighting one another for years and the religions fighting are mainly Catholic and Protestant. It’s about time they were all one, and Ireland in my mind are our last hope of breaking a long link by standing up to Evil.
I’ve always believed that there is a creator (call him God if you like). I’ve often thought that our Earth and the Universe is too great a thing not to have been created. With all the bad things that have been happening in the world over the last few years I made the decision to return to church, and have been a few times over the last year to show my respect to God. I also believe that God is with you wherever you are.
The people of the world need to start looking to God again to show him some respect for giving us a life. People have also lost respect for the planet Earth, look at what is being done to it, there is SHIT everywhere, and there is too much GREED. Many people cannot even look after themselves anymore, let alone look after their own planet.
I’d say too many people have abandoned God, and he’s not too happy about it right now, and he’s going to teach the world, and the Evil people a lesson, and there will be no hiding holes for those Evil people.
There is a lot of evil in the world at the moment and it needs to be taken care of, and as in all wars innocent people will be killed in order for the righteous to win over. God made a promise in the Bible, and only God knows who he will save, and when, and he needs to be shown some respect. It’s up to every individual to make a decision. I made mine a long time ago, and I’m with God. :)
There you go, we dont have to lift a finger. God'l make everything ok.
bowtiedaddy
10-06-2009, 04:43 AM
All Gordon Brown ever does is call for a New World Order and continue all over their agendas.
He is NOT a good guy. He's simply being slammed because it's time for the new puppet to come in. THEY DO IT EVERY 5-10 YEARS!
I swear, some of you people need to read a bit more before making these comments.
Yep, they destroyed Dubya's name as well. "The plan" is more imortant to them than anything.
millhouse
10-06-2009, 12:18 PM
Ok, Gordon may not be one of the most charismatic guys on the planet...but I don't think I have ever witnessed one man have such a public kicking in my entire life.....There is a huge agenda to get this guy out from every angle.
But there is absolutely NO alternative in the Labour party.
Everyone taking a swipe, the papers, the news, his cabinet, that silly bitch who played the sexism card when overlooked for a job, every comedy panel show.
I'm sure he must be a man in turmoil and experiencing right now what most of us couldn't comprehend....
I actually feel very sorry for the guy for the 1st time, and I actually have developed a certain kind of respect for his durability and stubborness.
Many would have broken by now.
I just want to take a step back from this bandwagon, that's all and find out what everyone else thinks....
I have maybe learnt to take a step back when any story or agenda in the mainstrem now comes up....
No hes a cunt like all the rest of em. Its a similar thing to bush, the public dont take to him, ( unlike Tony 'lying ,decieving, murderer, but i'll appear on the cathrine tate show,so all divs will like me) Blair. so he is made a scape goat, then all the public demand 'change', and vote for another cunt, this time in the form David Cameron, whos publically accepted, so can get away with anything, i.e Obahma. Very predictable but effective, because most people are so dumbed down!
yozhik
10-06-2009, 01:35 PM
I'm currently watching the Prime Minister question time.
It's disgusting.
EVERYTHING Brown is asked, he is deflecting, and substituting a question about expenses.
He is using the over-hyped expenses issue as a shield to answering all questions.
Asked about the referendum on the Lisbon Treaty ... he answers it by bring up parliament expenses.
Asked about voting reform ... he answers it by emphasising that the expenses fiasco is the primary concern.
When queried on constitutional reforms, he answers it by stating that expenses reforms must be done first.
What a fucking tool Brown really is.
"Is Gordon Brown one of the good guys??"
WTF was the OP thinking when posing this question? :rolleyes:
adbasque
10-06-2009, 08:18 PM
"Is Gordon Brown one of the good guys??"
WTF was the OP thinking when posing this question? :rolleyes:
I think because Gordon Brown is attacked from every angle at the moment (another deflection/diversion) the OP thought maybe he was doing something right.
He is just like the other scumbags he is no different, it doesn't matter who is in power, they all have to carry the agenda and run with it.
Politicians don't tell the truth, Politicians are trained to spin, to twist, to avoid questions.
It is a formal training, how to avoid real questions, they are nothing but a bunch of cheap actors. (make believe) liars.
A politician cannot exist if he tells the truth, that is a fact, they have to lie, it's for us to do something about it, don't expect a snake not to be true to it's nature.
Politicians are the most brainwashed people on the planet and they have been given a tool to brainwash the masses.