How Pervert is this ???

[holy_wood]

Hi dont know if you already knowed this, but i will post it :)

there are candys called "maoam"

http://www.maoam.de/

you may ask, why there is something pervert?

well just take a look at this pictures, this says it all!

http://www.sagen.at/texte/gegenwart/images/maoam_sex.jpg

http://jetztimg.sueddeutsche.de/upl/images/user/de/derive/515832.jpg

http://images.google.com/images?hl=de&q=Maoam&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
this is what we give to our children...

this is also pervert:

Subliminal Messages In Cartoons - YouTube

horrible!
and still not forbidden.

[ging]

LOL Oh my God! I know I shouldn't laugh, but...OH MY GOD!

[brainfreeze]

An orgasm for the taste buds I guess.

[curtaincat]

I guess at least they look happy, its not portraying rape or violence....
they looked like cute fruit.

[yozhik]

he he he ... fantastic!
Laugh every time I look at them.
... and I'm not going to say sorry for finding them humorous.

[sedate_solution]

An orgasm for the taste buds I guess.

LMAO, they do get the juices goin' !

[margaretr]

I don't see perversion - just cuddling kissing and touching - the fruits have no sex organs or discernable age - so where is the perversion :confused:

[curtaincat]

yeah, they look SWEET :p:D

[notthisshitagain]

"I wanna MAOAM you!" :D

[farros]

I think the OP is overreacting...

Why cant you just see the innocence, and not make a mountain out of a molehill?

Sometimes the outrage is more damaging than the subject.

Its a childrens sweet yes.. but be more concerned about the chemicals in the sweets than the wrapper.

its not going to destroy a childs psyche ffs.

The lemon flavour is the only one which looks dodgy.

[ging]

I don't see perversion - just cuddling kissing and touching - the fruits have no sex organs or discernable age - so where is the perversion :confused:

I don't know, he looks like he's really going for it with that lemon..........

[steevo]

Sex sells :cool:

[allure]

the OP is overreacting

[steevo]

On the packet of lemon sweets, what is actually happening/happened in that picture ?

The pictures on the sweets are not a problem to me as an adult, but when we think that these products are specifically aimed at children then MAYBE it's a little sinister, but I'm not sure on that. We as kids had Captain Pugwash on tv which was aimed at the kids but had adult "double entendres", and it seemed to NOT harm anyone.

[ging]

On the packet of lemon sweets, what is actually happening/happened in that picture ?

The pictures on the sweets are not a problem to me as an adult, but when we think that these products are specifically aimed at children then MAYBE it's a little sinister, but I'm not sure on that. We as kids had Captain Pugwash on tv which was aimed at the kids but had adult "double entendres", and it seemed to NOT harm anyone.

Some hard, fast boinking.

Eech, bet that stings!

[steevo]

Some hard, fast boinking.

Eech, bet that stings!

Maybe he cum over the lemon's face ? Could be my dirty mind though lol :D

[brainfreeze]

I just called my kids and showed them each pic individually, they saw the fruit as happy. They're 9 and 14. I then showed them all the pics together and was told, "someone is trying to be rude how do fruit have sex?"

Clever kids I think.

[zetetic0void]

The fourth one with the lemon...

Reminds me of the old "Lemon Song" by Led Zeppelin

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"Squeeze my lemon till the juice runs down my leg"
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hahaha

definately something going on there haha :p

[unusual_suspect]

I don't know, he looks like he's really going for it with that lemon..........

He certainly is :D

I have sneaked risque images in to design work and slipped double entendres in to copy for web pages before.

I think people do this out of boredom and to give themselves a cheap laugh so they can brighten up an otherwise shitty, boring and thankless job. Well, that was my motivation for it, and a kind of "up yours" to my boss.

I wouldn't worry too much about it, it's nothing to do with a sinister plot to further the agenda nof the elite, more like a bored designer keeping themselves amused ;)

[curtaincat]

I just called my kids and showed them each pic individually, they saw the fruit as happy. They're 9 and 14. I then showed them all the pics together and was told, "someone is trying to be rude how do fruit have sex?"

Clever kids I think.

yeah, clever kids :), but if you hadn't gone to all the trouble of showing them the pics, and they had those sweets, they , or most kids, would just rip them open and eat the sweets , hardly noticing the pictures on the packets. Most kids and adults hardly notice anything anyway. LOL:D

[holy_wood]

I just called my kids and showed them each pic individually, they saw the fruit as happy. They're 9 and 14. I then showed them all the pics together and was told, "someone is trying to be rude how do fruit have sex?"

Clever kids I think.

very intersting :) thanks for sharing that.

Most kids and adults hardly notice anything anyway. LOL:D



sure do they do! did you ever hear something about subliminal messages?

subliminal messages - Google-Suche

hollywood, as my names says it, is a holy wood holly holly they do manipulate humans and use their subliminal messaging system in movies ,,, they even implement future symbolic events in their movies, this is a part of their "satanic" rituals!

they want that we know what happens, but deep in our subconscious!

thats why we feel when something happens, oh i thinked i already saw that somewhere...

this is what i call pervert! i am shocked how many peoople here do look normal at this, or do laugh at this!
this is not funny! this is manipulation, and not the only in its form for making dumb our kids and manipulating them!

please let this be a serious discussion, and not a laugh thread! because it isnt really funny" only for those who can't think i call it, or cant see what really going on ...

i do not tell you to be depressed, and to not laugh but please take it a little bit serious! thanks.

[curtaincat]

He certainly is :D

I have sneaked risque images in to design work and slipped double entendres in to copy for web pages before.

I think people do this out of boredom and to give themselves a cheap laugh so they can brighten up an otherwise shitty, boring and thankless job. Well, that was my motivation for it, and a kind of "up yours" to my boss.

I wouldn't worry too much about it, it's nothing to do with a sinister plot to further the agenda nof the elite, more like a bored designer keeping themselves amused ;)



LOL, unusual!!!:D

[sedate_solution]

very intersting :) thanks for sharing that.



sure do they do! did you ever hear something about subliminal messages?

http://www.google.lu/search?hl=de&q=subliminal+messages&meta=&aq=f&oq=

this is what i call pervert! i am shocked how many peoople here do look normal at this, or do laugh at this!
this is not funny! this is manipulation, and not the only in its form for making dumb our kids and manipulating them!

please let this be a serious discussion, and not a laugh thread! because it isnt really funny" only for those who can't think i call it, or cant see what really going on ...

i do not tell you to be depressed, and to not laugh but please take it a little bit serious! thanks.

All that you have said is YOUR POINT OF PERCEPTION, why get attached and worked up over happy fruit ?

[curtaincat]

very intersting :) thanks for sharing that.



sure do they do! did you ever hear something about subliminal messages?

http://www.google.lu/search?hl=de&q=subliminal+messages&meta=&aq=f&oq=

this is what i call pervert! i am shocked how many peoople here do look normal at this, or do laugh at this!
this is not funny! this is manipulation, and not the only in its form for making dumb our kids and manipulating them!

please let this be a serious discussion, and not a laugh thread! because it isnt really funny" only for those who can't think i call it, or cant see what really going on ...

i do not tell you to be depressed, and to not laugh but please take it a little bit serious! thanks.



holy, of course I have heard of subliminal messages and so have everyone here, I would think. No-one is joking,.. really. It is only because you are posting stuff that is so obvious to us, I guess. Of course I do appreciate your concern. But when Iwas a kid , I never looked at a packet of any junkfood , I just ripped it open and ate it.

Most adults do the same, the subliminal is usually in the advertisements... nobody bothers with the packets. I never watch ads , if I see an ad on tv , I mute it, or change channels or go to the loo or make a cuppa tea. Ads are the lowest form of entertainment, heehee!! Just a chance to go to the loo to show what you think of them.

these fruity characters are kind of cute, friendly and loving.

[sade]

Are you kidding me, OP? Do you have a sick mind that you see something "perverted" in those pictures?
They remind me of a dog licking a child's face.
WAIT. THAT'S PERVERTED TOO! NOOOOO.

[ging]

It's gotta be said. They don't just look happy. They look like they are shagging. And that slobbering on cherries? Looks like he's licking balls. :D

[holy_wood]

Are you kidding me, OP? Do you have a sick mind that you see something "perverted" in those pictures?
They remind me of a dog licking a child's face.
WAIT. THAT'S PERVERTED TOO! NOOOOO.

this is manipulation of our children i think, there are many people seeing this, so they all do have sick minds?

do we all have sick minds here, for thinking that aliens are controlling this earth! oh noe this is all pervert!

we should share love and peace, because thats the only thing isnt it ;)

[ex_anser_ovo]

Also notice none of the fruit have eye lashes.
And in cartoon logic, this means they are all male.
The plot thickens. :eek:

[ging]

Also notice none of the fruit have eye lashes.
And in cartoon logic, this means they are all male.
The plot thickens. :eek:

'Cartoon Logic' LOL

[sedate_solution]

'Cartoon Logic' LOL

Meep too, never heard of cartoon logic !

[ex_anser_ovo]

I tried to google the use of eyelashes used in cartoon logic to distinguish between genders, but I cannot find it.
Maybe I forgot to take my meds this morning, but I could of sworn it was some sacred rule. :confused:

[ging]

I tried to google the use of eyelashes used in cartoon logic to distinguish between genders, but I cannot find it.
Maybe I forgot to take my meds this morning, but I could of sworn it was some sacred rule. :confused:

LOL I know what you mean.

[sade]

this is manipulation of our children i think, there are many people seeing this, so they all do have sick minds?

do we all have sick minds here, for thinking that aliens are controlling this earth! oh noe this is all pervert!

we should share love and peace, because thats the only thing isnt it ;)

I don't believe Aliens are controlling this planet. :rolleyes: Neither does...Uhh, 98% of the rest of the world.
Just the 2% that have been convinced by non-existant proof, but hey, let's not talk about that....

And I agree we should share all the love and all that stuff,
but you have to understand that kids don't view things like adults do.
The time they start getting imagery like this is when they turn 14-99 yrs~.
If something is dangerous, that's MTV and BARNEY!

I've seen how Barney looks at those other Dinosaurs...
I HAVE SEEN IT WITH MY OWN EYEEESSS!

Look at my proof!

http://www.simpsonstrivia.com.ar/pictures-images/barney-and-friends.jpg & http://cm.iparenting.com/fc/editor_files/images/1042/news/Barney_Tour.jpeg

Look at his eyes, I mean, JUST LOOK!
He's trying to un-dress me with his eyes, THAT PERVERT!
Not to mention that he's violet, and violet is an evil color made up by perverts! :(:(:(:(

(But Im being serious about MTV.)

[cafetimes1991]

I remember eating this crap way back in... 2004? Now I'm eating different crap, but the packaging I always found laughable.
The one of the bottem right in the OP is the funniest. :D

[unusual_suspect]

I remember eating this crap way back in... 2004? Now I'm eating different crap, but the packaging I always found laughable.
The one of the bottem right in the OP is the funniest. :D

I know, fruity little blighters :D

[yozhik]

Yes ... I can see the sexual overtones.
I put that down to my sick sense of humour and warped sexual sensitivity.

Does it mean I'm being programmed?
Not as long as I exercise free will ... the choice to NOT buy the product.

I've seen more direct sexual reference on a cover of a magazine in a supermarket than is on these products.

Look at any banana, cucumber or green lipped mussel and it is also "guilty" of sexual overtone. Does it mean we remove all food produce, even if natural and "as God intended it" from the supermarket shelves?

I think we need to go back to using some good ol' common sense.
Political correctness sure has a lot to answer for ... and so does the increasing inability amongst adults to take responsibility of their own actions and decision making, preferring instead to assign blame and remove culpability.

[holy_wood]

I don't believe Aliens are controlling this planet. :rolleyes:

(But Im being serious about MTV.)

so what about david ickes theory, or should i say, research :) ?

there is a big truth out there, and david icke has researched so many things...
the informations about reptilians are suppressed i think...

what about credo mutwa? what about reptilians? what abouzt everything?
sorry, but i hope i didnt understand you wrong!

do not understand me wrong! im just asking a little question according to your strange comment :)


blessings

[unusual_suspect]

I just did a search on these sweets and this one is even worse!

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/album.php?albumid=421

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/album.php?albumid=421

[yozhik]

I just did a search on these sweets and this one is even worse!

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/album.php?albumid=421

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/album.php?albumid=421
Put maoam in your mouth ... enjoy the pleasures of popping cherry!

[paradise_1000]

Hi dont know if you already knowed this, but i will post it :)

there are candys called "maoam"

http://www.maoam.de/

you may ask, why there is something pervert?

well just take a look at this pictures, this says it all!

http://www.sagen.at/texte/gegenwart/images/maoam_sex.jpg

http://jetztimg.sueddeutsche.de/upl/images/user/de/derive/515832.jpg

http://images.google.com/images?hl=de&q=Maoam&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
this is what we give to our children...

horrible!
and still not forbidden.



hmm maybe its your own perverted mind that read a little to much into it ????

just an idea :eek:

[lakkimakki]

:d:d:d

[unusual_suspect]

hmm maybe its your own perverted mind that read a little to much into it ????

just an idea :eek:

I just asked my 10 year old son what he thought of them. He said "they look pretty wrong".

[mountain]

It made me feel a li'l like... making a booty call! :eek: :p KIDDING!!

Yes one of the pics though, the fruit looks as if he's being violated from a forced kiss...

[beldazar]

very intersting :) thanks for sharing that.



sure do they do! did you ever hear something about subliminal messages?

http://www.google.lu/search?hl=de&q=subliminal+messages&meta=&aq=f&oq=

hollywood, as my names says it, is a holy wood holly holly they do manipulate humans and use their subliminal messaging system in movies ,,, they even implement future symbolic events in their movies, this is a part of their "satanic" rituals!

they want that we know what happens, but deep in our subconscious!

thats why we feel when something happens, oh i thinked i already saw that somewhere...

this is what i call pervert! i am shocked how many peoople here do look normal at this, or do laugh at this!
this is not funny! this is manipulation, and not the only in its form for making dumb our kids and manipulating them!

please let this be a serious discussion, and not a laugh thread! because it isnt really funny" only for those who can't think i call it, or cant see what really going on ...

i do not tell you to be depressed, and to not laugh but please take it a little bit serious! thanks.


Good post Holy wood. All around us is subliminal messaging, this is just one small example.
I walked into Kayes chemist several months back and really 'saw' for the first time how things are dressed up, big smiling faces of beautiful men and women enticing people to buy the product, the wordings, the colours...it was like 'seeing' for the first time ;)

[paradise_1000]

I just asked my 10 year old son what he thought of them. He said "they look pretty wrong".


all depends on how you condition your kids really mine just see funny fruit people

[unusual_suspect]

all depends on how you condition your kids really mine just see funny fruit people

Fair point, I think both responses are perfectly valid for boys that age. Him and his mates are always calling each other gay and talking about bums and willies. I remember my younger brother being the same. I thought this was pretty normal :o

[holy_wood]

hmm maybe its your own perverted mind that read a little to much into it ????

just an idea :eek:

no its not my perverted mind :)
as i already said:


sure do they do! did you ever hear something about subliminal messages?

http://www.google.lu/search?hl=de&q=...meta=&aq=f&oq=

hollywood, as my names says it, is a holy wood holly holly they do manipulate humans and use their subliminal messaging system in movies ,,, they even implement future symbolic events in their movies, this is a part of their "satanic" rituals!

they want that we know what happens, but deep in our subconscious!

thats why we feel when something happens, oh i thinked i already saw that somewhere...

this is what i call pervert! i am shocked how many peoople here do look normal at this, or do laugh at this!
this is not funny! this is manipulation, and not the only in its form for making dumb our kids and manipulating them!

please let this be a serious discussion, and not a laugh thread! because it isnt really funny" only for those who can't think i call it, or cant see what really going on ...

i do not tell you to be depressed, and to not laugh but please take it a little bit serious! thanks.


:) and no i am not mind-perverted nor do i just think pervert!

i just wanted to start a discussion about how we get manipulated :)
this is another way of manipulation ...
they get the kids ready for the future ...

its all about manipulation subliminal programming ...

i just wanted to see how people would react to this therefore is the title of this:

"how pervert is this?"

just wanted to know how you would react to this ;)

think about it deep

[lakkimakki]

all depends on how you condition your kids really mine just see funny fruit people

wahhahahah lol :D

[sedate_solution]

Whats perverted about happy fruit ? ? ?

Whats really perverted is that the OP expects us all to see the same thing ! ! !

[unusual_suspect]

Whats perverted about happy fruit ? ? ?

Whats really perverted is that the OP expects us all to see the same thing ! ! !

Idk, the one with the lemon is rather fruity :p

[disorder2k8]

yeah im with the confused group on this

innocence is being totally destroyed

[sedate_solution]

yeah im with the confused group on this

innocence is being totally destroyed

Only if you allow it to be so, it's your point of perception and you choose how to percieve things !

[ging]

Only if you allow it to be so, it's your point of perception and you choose how to percieve things !

Yes, but that lemon is quite clearly getting shagged!

[sedate_solution]

Yes, but that lemon is quite clearly getting shagged!


Good for the lemon, it looks to be having a good time too !

[size_of_light]

Sinister.

I've read that the elite sometimes molest children whilst wearing Mickey Mouse or Donald Duck masks so that if the kids later recount what happened to them to others, the stories will be dismissed by adults as the products of children's overactive imaginations, since Disney characters aren't real and don't rape children.

There's nothing cute or funny about that.

Get beyond the fact that these are cute cartoon drawings of fruit and you've got blatantly intentional illustrations of sex acts on the packaging of kid's candy.

I'm surprised some people here don't see that as fucking hideous.

[sedate_solution]

Sinister.

I've read that the elite sometimes molest children while wearing Mickey Mouse of Donald Duck masks so that if the kids later recount what happened to them to others, the stories will be dismissed by adults as the products of children's overactive imaginations, since Disney characters aren't real and don't rape children.

There's nothing cute or funny about that.

Get beyond the fact that these are cute cartoon drawings of fruit and you've got blatantly intentional illustrations of sex acts on the packaging of kid's candy.

I'm surprised some people here don't see that as fucking hideous.

If you find it that hideous why use the word ELITE to describe em', An individual unaware of sexuality will not see any of what you guys are talking about !

[nectars]

http://www.sagen.at/texte/gegenwart/images/maoam_sex.jpg

Bottom left looks like an upsidedown cock n balls.

[paradise_1000]

The power of suggestion is what this thread really empathizes childish cartoons of fruit in playful positions can be turned into devious sexual acts in our own adult minds.

:p

[size_of_light]

If you find it that hideous why use the word ELITE to describe em', An individual unaware of sexuality will not see any of what you guys are talking about !

The power of suggestion is what this thread really empathizes childish cartoons of fruit in playful positions can be turned into devious sexual acts in our own adult minds.

:p

You both know that these are depictions of fruit engaged in sex acts.

If either of you feel like arguing that point with me, don't bother.

[sedate_solution]

You both know that these are depictions of fruit engaged in sex acts.

If either of you feel like arguing that point with me, don't bother.

LMAO

It's your interpretation of the image not mine !

[beldazar]

Sinister.

I've read that the elite sometimes molest children while wearing Mickey Mouse of Donald Duck masks so that if the kids later recount what happened to them to others, the stories will be dismissed by adults as the products of children's overactive imaginations, since Disney characters aren't real and don't rape children.

There's nothing cute or funny about that.

Get beyond the fact that these are cute cartoon drawings of fruit and you've got blatantly intentional illustrations of sex acts on the packaging of kid's candy.

I'm surprised some people here don't see that as fucking hideous.

Nice one Size :)

[size_of_light]

LMAO

It's your interpretation of the image not mine !

You can't interpret these images. They're straighforward.

A lot of children wouldn't understand them on a conscious level, which is the point: they're subliminals directed at children.

But adults who titter and play dumb and describe them as cute, fun and harmless are not only lying to themselves, but helping to propagate these sorts of mindfucks on children in the marketplace.

[sedate_solution]

You can't interpret these images. They're straighforward.

A lot of children wouldn't understand them on a conscious level, which is the point: they're subliminals directed at children.

But adults who titter and play dumb and describe them as cute, fun and harmless are not only lying to themselves, but helping to propagate these sorts of mindfucks on children in the marketplace.


So if a creature from a far away universe was to interpret em' they would see the same as you and I ?

Step outa your box for a moment, you might like what you see !

[unusual_suspect]

Sinister.

I've read that the elite sometimes molest children while wearing Mickey Mouse of Donald Duck masks so that if the kids later recount what happened to them to others, the stories will be dismissed by adults as the products of children's overactive imaginations, since Disney characters aren't real and don't rape children.

There's nothing cute or funny about that.

Get beyond the fact that these are cute cartoon drawings of fruit and you've got blatantly intentional illustrations of sex acts on the packaging of kid's candy.

I'm surprised some people here don't see that as fucking hideous.

Sorry to all who think this is disgusting, but I can imagine myself illustrating some fruit characters engaged in sexual acts for a laugh if I was a bored packaging designer.

Contrary to what many people think, the job of a designer is actually quite boring, thankless, the pay isn't great and clients are dicks who are never satisfied. Seriously, why do you think there is so much subliminal sexual imagery in design, it's bored designers sticking two fingers up at their annoying bosses and shitty clients. I have worked in this field myself, it sucks, anything to liven it up man, sorry :o

[size_of_light]

Sorry to all who think this is disgusting, but I can imagine myself illustrating some fruit characters engaged in sexual acts for a laugh if I was a bored packaging designer.

Would you do that on a kid's product?

[holy_wood]

http://s5.directupload.net/images/user/080923/4a7bik7d.jpg

Sorry to all who think this is disgusting

now it isnt anymore do i think.

[sedate_solution]

Would you do that on a kid's product?

Candy isn't just for kids bud, you're allowed to eat the stuff too !

[unusual_suspect]

Would you do that on a kid's product?

Yeah, it's not in yer face explicit and it's pretty funny. If I did had designed that packaging and knew people were getting offended by it and discussing it on forums it would make my fookin day :D

[sedate_solution]

http://s5.directupload.net/images/user/080923/4a7bik7d.jpg



now it isnt anymore do i think.

lmao

[holy_wood]

Candy isn't just for kids bud, you're allowed to eat the stuff too !

did you know whats in this "stuff" ?

aspartame,Sorbitum Mannite and other chemical shit!

[sedate_solution]

did you know whats in this "stuff" ?

aspartame and other chemical shit!

Depends on what candy you're eating !

I've tried to avoid aspartame as much as possible since becomeing aware of such a thing back in 2004 !

[paradise_1000]

http://s5.directupload.net/images/user/080923/4a7bik7d.jpg



now it isnt anymore do i think.


lol now that is better

[steevo]

lol now that is better

Yes it's more suitable for children to see now.

[holy_wood]

and here is anoter yet uncensored maoam pervert picture:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1303/1195815159_16096bb954.jpg?v=0

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1403/1170695445_1453f146d3.jpg

[size_of_light]

Yeah, it's not in yer face explicit and it's pretty funny. If I did had designed that packaging and knew people were getting offended by it and discussing it on forums it would make my fookin day :D

I'm sorry to hear that.

[unusual_suspect]

Look at the pervert face that green guy is pulling in the cherry one - he's lovin' it!

[sedate_solution]

Look at the pervert face that green guy is pulling in the cherry one - he's lovin' it!

LoL

Stop winding em' up, let em' go back to sleep !

[unusual_suspect]

LoL

Stop winding em' up, let em' go back to sleep !

Sorry, I can't help being a wrongun, I am just finding this thread and those sweets to be totally hilarious. :o

[holy_wood]

cartoons are pervert too! i forgot this:

Subliminal Messages In Cartoons - YouTube

[paradise_1000]

Yes it's more suitable for children to see now.


yes it is but its an adult mind that will see the naughty things in the cartoon the child mind just opens the packet and gets to the sweet ?? its not like the child will even contemplate the image he or she is more interested in whats inside the package !

[steevo]

yes it is but its an adult mind that will see the naughty things in the cartoon the child mind just opens the packet and gets to the sweet ?? its not like the child will even contemplate the image he or she is more interested in whats inside the package !

The images go into the child's subconcious mind.

[size_of_light]

yes it is but its an adult mind that will see the naughty things in the cartoon the child mind just opens the packet and gets to the sweet ?? its not like the child will even contemplate the image he or she is more interested in whats inside the package !

Why not feed your baby from a bottle shaped like a dildo?

He won't understand it and you and all your friends can stand around his crib laughing your asses off because you guys 'get it'.

[unusual_suspect]

cartoons are pervert too! i forgot this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU9FPflW9Xk

You're not wrong, most kids cartoons are far, far worse than these sweet wrappers, have you seen the costumes they wear, Japanese cartoons are the worst.

I was watching Yu Gi Oh with my son and the girl character had huge gazzonga's, planty of cleavage on show, and there were plenty of up the skirt shots :eek:

You practically get to see naked people on shower gel ads, people dress their pree teen girls up like slappers. Now that's bad, these sweet wrappers are just funny.

[paradise_1000]

I think we as adults here are taking this TO seriously kids rip open packages and eat sweets hardly taking any notice of the wrapper I did as a kid so did you all


What kid looks at wrappers of sweets and goes omg subliminals :confused:

they eat the sweet and throw the wrapper in the bin


at worst here is a cartoonist having a joke thats all ffs

[paradise_1000]

The images go into the child's subconcious mind.

what kid looks at wrappers in detail when there is a sweet inside ???

[paradise_1000]

Why not feed your baby from a bottle shaped like a dildo?

He won't understand it and you and all your friends can stand around his crib laughing your asses off because you guys 'get it'.

any dickhead that does that is warped imo

what do you do then go hide in a cave because of subliminals ?

[steevo]

what kid looks at wrappers in detail when there is a sweet inside ???

They SEE it. They dont have to look "in detail".

[paradise_1000]

They SEE it. They dont have to look "in detail".


yeah right YOU see it my kids do NOT they eat the sweet and see fruit people they have no comprehension of sexual positions

[size_of_light]

any dickhead that does that is warped imo

what do you do then go hide in a cave because of subliminals ?

No. But a good place to start is to stop laughing and taking perverse pleasure in them when genuine examples are presented.

[steevo]

any dickhead that does that is warped imo

what do you do then go hide in a cave because of subliminals ?

No we have just got to be aware of subliminals and then the subliminals no longer will have the effect. And when we ALL become aware of subliminals, then they no longer will work cos we would spot them immediately. The people making these subliminals would then NATURALLY give it up as a bad job I suspect. There is no need for censorship of anything, we just need to be AWARE of what we are seeing and how it effects us.

[steevo]

yeah right YOU see it my kids do NOT they eat the sweet and see fruit people they have no comprehension of sexual positions

They see it but dont CONCIOUSLY think of sex. They store the image in their subconcious.

[paradise_1000]

No. But a good place to start is to stop laughing and taking perverse pleasure in them when genuine examples are presented.


I do not take any perverse pleasures I am genuinely astounded at people getting worked up about things this is not a very good example as I agree these images do have a certain context

but I have read about other things like the rec film Bolt

there is a time when you have to say WTF

[octopusrex]

Hi dont know if you already knowed this, but i will post it :)

there are candys called "maoam"

http://www.maoam.de/

you may ask, why there is something pervert?

well just take a look at this pictures, this says it all!

http://www.sagen.at/texte/gegenwart/images/maoam_sex.jpg

http://jetztimg.sueddeutsche.de/upl/images/user/de/derive/515832.jpg

http://images.google.com/images?hl=de&q=Maoam&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
this is what we give to our children...

this is also pervert:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU9FPflW9Xk

horrible!
and still not forbidden.

Too cool. Where can I buy them anyhow?

[size_of_light]

I do not take any perverse pleasures I am genuinely astounded at people getting worked up about things this is not a very good example as I agree these images do have a certain context

but I have read about other things like the rec film Bolt

there is a time when you have to say WTF

Fair enough.

Another poster or two apparently find this sort of mind-fuckery hilarious though, and the only conclusion I can draw from that is that their amusement is derived from the fact that something sexually subversive is being slipped under the radar of children in the packaging of a product that they like to consume.

That attitude is so disturbing to me it's depressing.

[sedate_solution]

Fair enough.

Another poster or two apparently find this sort of mind-fuckery hilarious though, and the only conclusion I can draw from that is that their amusement is derived from the fact that something sexually subversive is being slipped under the radar of children in the packaging of a product that they like to consume.

That attitude is so disturbing to me it's depressing.

Why let something beyond your control depress and disturb youself ?

[size_of_light]

Why let something beyond your control depress and disturb youself ?

Because adults should act in ways that protect children. Not laugh when they're made the unknowing targets of sick sexual jokes.

[sedate_solution]

Because adults should act in ways that protect children. Not laugh at them because they're the unknowing targets of sick sexual jokes.

You're still not getting it with all that has been said. YOU ARE THE ONE READING THIS SHIT INTO THINGS, what you think and feel is devining your reality right this moment !

So chillax, freak out a little !

[unusual_suspect]

Because adults should act in ways that protect children. Not laugh when they're made the unknowing targets of sick sexual jokes.

Sorry, but do you not think you are taking this a tad too seriously, I have seen far worse blatant and in yer face sexual imagery in kids TV programmes. This is the least of your worries if you are concerned about the sexualisation of children.

[size_of_light]

Sorry, but do you not think you are taking this a tad too seriously, I have seen far worse blatant and in yer face sexual imagery in kids TV programmes. This is the least of your worries if you are concerned about the sexualisation of children.

I'm not taking it over-seriously. I'm treating it as another example of the growing trend towards directing this sort of sick shit at kids. I agree that it's everywhere and often a lot, lot worse, but that doesn't mean you shrug and laugh it off when you see something like this.

[size_of_light]

You're still not getting it with all that has been said. YOU ARE THE ONE READING THIS SHIT INTO THINGS, what you think and feel is devining your reality right this moment !

So chillax, freak out a little !

Thanks for your input.

[pinnochio]

It makes me laugh but is so blatant too,

Hidden in plane site!!

The closer you are to danger the further you are from harm.

[sedate_solution]

Thanks for your input.

You're welcome !

[steevo]

It makes me laugh but is so blatant too,

Hidden in plane site!!

The closer you are to danger the further you are from harm.

I have eaten those sweets quite a few times in the past (not anymore though) and I had never noticed those pics. I notice stuff like that quite easily nowadays.

[sedate_solution]

I have eaten those sweets quite a few times in the past (not anymore though) and I had never noticed those pics. I notice stuff like that quite easily nowadays.

I would have never noticed if it wasn't for this thread !

[steevo]

I would have never noticed if it wasn't for this thread !

We just dont EXPECT those types of things to be on kiddies sweet wrappers, so we never bother checking them.

[sedate_solution]

Whenever I cought sight of em' I always thought 'bright and cheerfull' Mmmmm

Thanks to this thread my mind has been perverted now and I will find it hard to see em' in the same light !

Anyone getting it yet ?

[pinnochio]

There still so juicy good though!!

[antiem]

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/58/l_060486dc70cd440da2ae27ad4fa05731.jpg

And of course (talking of childrens comics) the classic, Walt Disneys Little Mermaids cover:
http://www.newsfollowup.com/id/images/little_mermaid.jpg
http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/37/l_3bfb3d2f2ebb4277a21055bea8d02f63.gif


There's tons of more information about that topic on

http://sub-lim.blogspot.com/

[octopusrex]

Seems like you folks never heard of ADVERTIZING. Sex is as old as mankind, and this might surprize you but SEX SELLS. It sells to kids, to old people, even to.. Catholic Nuns!

So.. Will you get a life already? What are you gonna do? Go into some remote cave where nobody ever heard of Camel Cigarrettes or Mickey Mouse? Or will you chillax yourself into realizing that maybe, just maybe the world is not such a bad place and you can be perfectly happy eating a Happy Meal?:D

[holy_wood]

this is subliminal messaging too:

take a look!

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67649

[sade]

http://cmtvarok.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/doh.jpg

[unusual_suspect]

I'm not taking it over-seriously. I'm treating it as another example of the growing trend towards directing this sort of sick shit at kids. I agree that it's everywhere and often a lot, lot worse, but that doesn't mean you shrug and laugh it off when you see something like this.

Sorry, I do agree with you to an extent, but compared to much that our kids are exposed to through the media I actually thought this was pretty funny and far more innocent than Disney and the like.

I respect your views, however I do wonder if the sweet wrappers may be a publicity stunt.

[paradise_1000]

Walt Disneys Little Mermaids cover:
http://www.newsfollowup.com/id/images/little_mermaid.jpg
http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/37/l_3bfb3d2f2ebb4277a21055bea8d02f63.gif


wtf :eek:

[cafetimes1991]

And let's not forget the other infamous erection later on in the same film:D

http://www.animatedbuzz.com/WB/images/minister01.jpg

[element]

http://jetztimg.sueddeutsche.de/upl/images/user/de/derive/515832.jpg
.

Only perverted adults who have nothing to do except making loony conspiracies see something in this...

Most will see happy fruits..

Go look up for the Burger King Spongebob thread..where children are seeing dancing girls with butts and skirts on. That is more serious then this.

[cafetimes1991]

One more:

http://slightlywarped.com/crapfactory/subliminal/images/coke.jpg

[revolutionary_jam]

lol that is pretty blatant

[romas]

http://s5.directupload.net/images/user/080923/4a7bik7d.jpg



now it isnt anymore do i think.


'lmfao

Might as well add "THIS IS NOT PORNOGRAPHY" with big neon letters somewhere there. Just to be sure kids don't find out about reproduction.

[masonicboom]

Sorry, I do agree with you to an extent, but compared to much that our kids are exposed to through the media I actually thought this was pretty funny and far more innocent than Disney and the like.

I respect your views, however I do wonder if the sweet wrappers may be a publicity stunt.

The wrappers weren't seemingly a publicity stunt, then my face fell off and d I realized they were sweet but inside was radioactive hell designed by me for me by cern. Is that right?

[shodan]

make no mistake all children are under attack subliminally. the sweet wrappers are shiny and funny on one level, but there's more to it than that. Nobody can speak with authority about the intention of them, maybe its just advertising, maybe they have interesting shareholders and owners with an agenda.



http://www.putoslokos.com/images/lion%20king%20sex.jpg

the above picture has nothing to do with advertising, its a direct subliminal into the heads of children

[unusual_suspect]

make no mistake all children are under attack subliminally. the sweet wrappers are shiny and funny on one level, but there's more to it than that. Nobody can speak with authority about the intention of them, maybe its just advertising, maybe they have interesting shareholders and owners with an agenda.



http://www.putoslokos.com/images/lion%20king%20sex.jpg

the above picture has nothing to do with advertising, its a direct subliminal into the heads of children

Well I like to keep a healthy degree of cynicism about these things, but that clearly says sex :eek:

[masonicboom]

I'm not familiar with that particular constellation.

[jp13]

http://s5.directupload.net/images/user/080923/4a7bik7d.jpg



now it isnt anymore do i think.

Now it looks perverted, for some reason the black outs make it look worse!

[friendsinthesky]

Too bad they aren't depicting homosexuality, it may change a few minds of so called parents in this thread. You wouldn't be saying, "cute" "harmless" "i think there funny"...well I'm not a parent and I think it's sick advertising.

[d9d9d9]

Too bad they aren't depicting homosexuality, it may change a few minds of so called parents in this thread. You wouldn't be saying, "cute" "harmless" "i think there funny"...well I'm not a parent and I think it's sick advertising.

I'm with you.

[d9d9d9]

From the same website:

:confused:

http://sub-lim.blogspot.com/

http://a627.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/121/l_89c8f76af3f91ce5f5b97be1c23600fa.jpg

:confused:

[leviathanstaar]

I shake my head at anyone that thought having no sex organs makes it alright.

Everything you see and hear is symbolism of sorts.

While it may not be that bad, to completely dismiss it is just the simple minded programming that is desired from you.

[solarwindspirit]

We are not all the 'same'
Men think of sex every 52 seconds and that exploitation of a 'weak' mind
is directed at Men. . .You're lame to say we are created 'all' the same

Women merely formed you and can go without sex for nine months
A woman 'feels' her children as they are one and has nothing do with 'empathic emotions' but her children are the very essense of herself.


This woman has every right to be concerned when innocent looking 'candy' wrappers are having a forlicky gooD time and it's the candy not the wrapper that is meant to be eaten by her children. . SOOO

yes the adult mind can interpret this much differently.

Children were abused in catholic church. Trusted clergy men of the 'cloth' displacing suppressed sexual appetites on children to the point of ritual abuse. . . .even the monasteries had become a 'haven' for this repulsive lack of respect to 'nature' and that of the mind of a child.

You see a woman, a man and a child are all different. . .in their natures and psychological makeup.

If she believes it's not harmless. . .LISTEN to her, respect her.

[tjohn]

Hi dont know if you already knowed this, but i will post it :)

there are candys called "maoam"

http://www.maoam.de/

you may ask, why there is something pervert?

well just take a look at this pictures, this says it all!

http://www.sagen.at/texte/gegenwart/images/maoam_sex.jpg

http://jetztimg.sueddeutsche.de/upl/images/user/de/derive/515832.jpg

http://images.google.com/images?hl=de&q=Maoam&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
this is what we give to our children...

this is also pervert:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU9FPflW9Xkhorrible!
and still not forbidden.So why are those sweets perverted??? Is laughing and touching and being natural perverted?? No. Has sensuality or any suggestion of having fun got to be perverted? No! I gather you must be religious, then here's what Paul said:

Colossians 2
20Since you died with Christ to the basic principles of this world, why, as though you still belonged to it, do you submit to its rules: 21"Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!"? 22These are all destined to perish with use, because they are based on human commands and teachings. 23Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence.

There was a time when it was seen as a sin to enjoy sex with one's wife, and a lesser sin to go with prostitutes - because it was taught by 'the church' that enjoying sexual pleasure defiled her. How perverse is that? Frankly, I think that those who deny anything to do with "the flesh" are perverts.

[thetonic]

http://s5.directupload.net/images/user/080923/4a7bik7d.jpg

Now it looks perverted, for some reason the black outs make it look worse!

Thats because the actual genitalia are the only bits they left out. Your mind will make the connections subconsciously and insert what little they left out

You people just dont fucking get it

This is a world wide effort to distort and program your reality starting from birth

Your children see this and instantly map the images permanantly into their subconscious mind

You all pretend to be fighting the illuminati , what a fuking joke , theyve already got you all beat... And whats worse , some of you seem to enjoy the manipulation and have been so taken in by it that you will willingly replicate it. Youre doing their job for them! Then you go on forums and complain about the state of the world today.

Just more victims of the Serpent

GET A CLUE PLEASE!

[measle_weasel]

I LOLed at these wrappers :D

[tjohn]

http://s5.directupload.net/images/user/080923/4a7bik7d.jpg



Thats because the actual genitalia are the only bits they left out. Your mind will make the connections subconsciously and insert what little they left out

You people just dont fucking get it

This is a world wide effort to distort and program your reality starting from birth

Your children see this and instantly map the images permanantly into their subconscious mind But there's nothing wrong with those pictures, except for some pathetic black squares!

You all pretend to be fighting the illuminati , what a fuking joke , theyve already got you all beat... And whats worse , some of you seem to enjoy the manipulation and have been so taken in by it that you will willingly replicate it. Youre doing their job for them! Then you go on forums and complain about the state of the world today.

Just more victims of the Serpent

GET A CLUE PLEASE!The Serpent? That old Illuminati inspired religious nonsense about the Serpent and original sin? Sorry but it is such religious ideas that have caused untold suffering that has helped to put the world in the dreadful state it is in today. Then you guys worry about a bag of sweets. GET A CLUE PLEASE!

[tjohn]

this is also pervert:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU9FPflW9Xkhorrible!
and still not forbidden.I am not trying to be rude but I think you are a prude. The word "SEX" is not pervert, nor is it "horrible." Sex isn't pervert, unless it's perverted sex such as for instance, by attempts to be celibate priests when by nature, they can't. Sex can be a very loving thing to share, that's why it's called making love. Making love is natural and wonderful. Nothing wrong with that - so why is the word "SEX" so bad?

Dare we not utter the word SEX to our children? They will have to find out sometime won't they - otherwise they are not as likely to have children of their own, are they.

[brainfreeze]

http://s5.directupload.net/images/user/080923/4a7bik7d.jpg



Thats because the actual genitalia are the only bits they left out. Your mind will make the connections subconsciously and insert what little they left out

You people just dont fucking get it

This is a world wide effort to distort and program your reality starting from birth

Your children see this and instantly map the images permanantly into their subconscious mind

You all pretend to be fighting the illuminati , what a fuking joke , theyve already got you all beat... And whats worse , some of you seem to enjoy the manipulation and have been so taken in by it that you will willingly replicate it. Youre doing their job for them! Then you go on forums and complain about the state of the world today.

Just more victims of the Serpent

GET A CLUE PLEASE!

Fruit don't have genatalia, so no, the genatalia are not missing from these pics, my kids know that as the truth!

[tjohn]

Fruit don't have genatalia, so no, the genatalia are not missing from these pics, my kids know that as the truth!Then isn't it silly with the black squares? :D lol

[brainfreeze]

Then isn't it silly with the black squares? :D lol

I think a forum member added the squares to illistrate a point, though what that might be I'm not too sure, other than how their mind works. All I get from this is, some adults see these pics as sexual and hey, I had a giggle when I saw them grouped together like that. I already tried it out on my kids, only when they saw the pics grouped together did they say someone was trying to be rude. Seeing the wrappers individually they saw the fruit as having fun.

[friendsinthesky]

Hidden sexual organs (inside the red circle)...and he's also licking his own cherry balls. (sick bastards)

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/5782/maoamsexcopy.jpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/i/maoamsexcopy.jpg/)

[size_of_light]

Maoam:

1. To display strong feelings of affection for a person or object.

2. To snog the face off someone.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=maoam

[rhydra]

Notice that the fruit is green, the strawberry looks to have green scales! Lo! Proof! :D

[friendsinthesky]

MaoaM is MaoaM spelt backwards.:eek:

[lottie]

I dont think that children see it as 'sexual' due to their innocence and we do because we arnt innocent anymore but thats the whole point of 'subliminals'.
According to Wilson Bryan Key...

'In a visual perception , as little as 1/1000 of the total perception registered in the brain actually surfaces in consciousness. The remainder lies dormant within memory. Emotionalised repressed information remains in the memory system for long periods, prehaps for a lifetime. In embedded pictures nothing is actually hidden- certainly not by the artist . Once viewers learn perceptual flexibuility, the 'embeds' are readily available to consciousness.

If you ask me...those fruits are implying they are doing rudies to each other lol... and its not necessary for my children to see that... why arnt they just holding hands together if its so innocent and they are 'just happy'??

I'd also like to add, the green fruit (whatever the hell that thing is lol) always seems to be the instigator- he's the 'male' figure or more dominant with his evil grins of satistfaction...!

[apekteina lordosis]

and he's also licking his own cherry balls. (sick bastards)


more like "lucky bastard".

[thirdwave]

Hi dont know if you already knowed this, but i will post it :)

there are candys called "maoam"

http://www.maoam.de/

you may ask, why there is something pervert?

well just take a look at this pictures, this says it all!

http://www.sagen.at/texte/gegenwart/images/maoam_sex.jpg

http://jetztimg.sueddeutsche.de/upl/images/user/de/derive/515832.jpg

http://images.google.com/images?hl=de&q=Maoam&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
this is what we give to our children...

this is also pervert:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU9FPflW9Xk

horrible!
and still not forbidden.


I would no say this is perverse... its just sex...

Not the first time people have tried to put sex in people minds to sell something..

[haukipesukone]

The pic with the lemon is a bit too "cuddly".

[thirdwave]

Yes, but that lemon is quite clearly getting shagged!

So does this mean that kids who eat these sweets are going to want to start shagging Lemons? :)

The thing is, if a child can see the sexual implications in these pictures its because understanding is already there anyway... a younger child would not see anything other than a colourful and happy image.

it kind of reminds me of the old program "Rainbow"

here

UK Childrens TV (Rainbow) show with double entendres - YouTube

Now this was perfectly innocent when I used to watch it.... now?, dear me it was blatant!

Mind you, I will agree that as much as I do not subscribe to the belief that this is taking kids innocents away... I find that does not really make sense as sex is a hormonal thing.. and is effected by our emotional states as we grow older.. not how we are introduced to simple sexual activities which are not harmful at all... However, It would not surprise me if there is a hidden sinister side to it hanging over children's innocence... who ever is behind it all.

[lottie]

So does this mean that kids who eat these sweets are going to want to start shagging Lemons? :)

The thing is, if a child can see the sexual implications in these pictures its because understanding is already there anyway... a younger child would not see anything other than a colourful and happy image.

it kind of reminds me of the old program "Rainbow"

here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej7yHgNktmE

Now this was perfectly innocent when I used to watch it.... now?, dear me it was blatant!

Mind you, I will agree that as much as I do not subscribe to the belief that this is taking kids innocents away... I find that does not really make sense as sex is a hormonal thing.. and is effected by our emotional states as we grow older.. not how we are introduced to simple sexual activities which are not harmful at all... However, It would not surprise me if there is a hidden sinister side to it hanging over children's innocence... who ever is behind it all.


Thats the point though TW... the child isnt meant to 'see' its implications...children just see 'happy fruit' cuddling and licking each other... thats the point in subliminals... ive just been going over David Ickes 'subliminal advertising ' section in one of his books.... its the subconsciuos mind and the conscious mind recieving two differing messages.

[thirdwave]

Thats the point though TW... the child isnt meant to 'see' its implications...children just see 'happy fruit' cuddling and licking each other... thats the point in subliminals... ive just been going over David Ickes 'subliminal advertising ' section in one of his books.... its the subconsciuos mind and the conscious mind recieving two differing messages.

I agree that might be the case and is with certain things.. But in this case, what is being told to the kids subliminaly?, that sex is fun and sweet?.. what else?...

If there are no hormones there to be effected by such things then how can it have an effect on a kid?, the whole horrific thing about child sex abuse is that they do not speak the sexual lingo so to speak... and it is the ultimate rape....

saying these images are subliminally damaging kids is like calling them kid porn for kids, and implying kids are sexually active.

for example, in that vid I posted, when I saw it I was shocked, I used to watch that when young and got nothing at all sexual from it... in that clip it is quite clearly a script referring to sex... but all these years later I never knew until my hormones were alive and I spoke the lingo..

I would say these sweets are marketed by people who feel that grown ups still buy sweets and this will grab them subliminally, while at the same time give off a fun and bubbly image that kids like... and it will also probebly get the attention of kids going through puberty who still like sweets and also want to cop hold of that pretty girl in class and give her the lemon treatment.

All advertising is evil and subliminal anyway.. that's what it is, a way of tricking people into buying something... but kids don't buy sex.

the video I posted, I would say the script was written by someone with maybe a sinister view point... thats my view anyway..

[apekteina lordosis]

for example, in that vid I posted, when I saw it I was shocked, I used to watch that when young and got nothing at all sexual from it... in that clip it is quite clearly a script referring to sex... but all these years later I never knew until my hormones were alive and I spoke the lingo..

that "episode" of rainbow was never broadcast, it was actually filmed for a inhouse xmas party... aka it was made to amuse adults.

[thirdwave]

that "episode" of rainbow was never broadcast, it was actually filmed for a inhouse xmas party... aka it was made to amuse adults.

really?, where did you hear that?

it says it was an official broadcast..? aired at 3pm

[skyfish]

He certainly is :D

I have sneaked risque images in to design work and slipped double entendres in to copy for web pages before.

I think people do this out of boredom and to give themselves a cheap laugh so they can brighten up an otherwise shitty, boring and thankless job. Well, that was my motivation for it, and a kind of "up yours" to my boss.

I wouldn't worry too much about it, it's nothing to do with a sinister plot to further the agenda nof the elite, more like a bored designer keeping themselves amused ;)

I agree with this poster. Just a bored designer having a laugh.

It won't harm the kids because they will not be spending their time mulling over these images, but scoffing the chemical-filled crap contents within while the wrapper rots in the bin.

[lottie]

I agree with this poster. Just a bored designer having a laugh.

It won't harm the kids because they will not be spending their time mulling over these images, but scoffing the chemical-filled crap contents within while the wrapper rots in the bin.

I get what you're saying and i hate jumping into this mindset that everything's a bloody conspiracy but surely if it had no effect on the kids...why do it in the first place? everyone knows advertising plays a huge part in selling and desirablity!!

[skyfish]

I get what you're saying and i hate jumping into this mindset that everything's a bloody conspiracy but surely if it had no effect on the kids...why do it in the first place? everyone knows advertising plays a huge part in selling and desirablity!!

Well they're bright and colourful and the fruit looks happy but I think that's where it ends for kids. I don't think the average child is going to be critically analysing their sweet wrappers! Although I understand other posters' comments about subliminal messages and I myself always mute adverts because I've had "compare the meerkat" going around in my head at 3am! :eek:

But we are looking at these from the perspective of adults. I teach 9 year olds and we've just studied how advertisers use different techniques to persuade their target audience. Trust me, even the brightest in the class would have to have all of these laid out in front of him and removed from the context of eating them in order to make the connections people are making on this forum.

[moondancer]

more like "lucky bastard".

:D made me laugh..

I dont think that children see it as 'sexual' due to their innocence and we do because we arnt innocent anymore but thats the whole point of 'subliminals'


Well they're bright and colourful and the fruit looks happy but I think that's where it ends for kids. I don't think the average child is going to be critically analysing their sweet wrappers! Although I understand other posters' comments about subliminal messages and I myself always mute adverts because I've had "compare the meerkat" going around in my head at 3am! :eek:

But we are looking at these from the perspective of adults. I teach 9 year olds and we've just studied how advertisers use different techniques to persuade their target audience. Trust me, even the brightest in the class would have to have all of these laid out in front of him and removed from the context of eating them in order to make the connections people are making on this forum.

Yeah but... like lotts said.. its more subtle than that..and why go there? why not just make them innocent? Nope, doubt they wouldnt be analysing their sweet wrappers...

It seems to be all part of layering it up in their minds..via subliminal messages in so many things around them.. little by little, building it into the subconscious.

How long have you been teaching? Do you reckon there is a change how kids are now about sex/at younger ages? Just wondered :)

Im hoping.. us who do get the vibe this isnt quite right.. are wrong and actually there is no harm being done.. hmmm

Over the designers just doing it for a laugh... more than likely.. but that kind of 'cultural thing / everyone does it' amongst a group of people/profession, has been created or started somewhere... who knows :rolleyes:

I'd also like to add, the green fruit (whatever the hell that thing is lol) always seems to be the instigator- he's the 'male' figure or more dominant with his evil grins of satistfaction...!

Im not interested in randy the pear.. im likin the look of mr orange... its the eager face and enthusiasm that does it :p

[queenofleon]

Holy I think you are correct. If you have watched the dajjal videos they go into details about this. It is a subliminal to put sex into the minds of our children from young. Disney are renowned for it.

They are BLATANTLY sexual, the cherries are having a gang bang!! This just reminds me of a Disney ride of Donald Duck , he is sat on his back with a very satisfied look on his face and his hands behind his head, this child straddles Donald Duck and Mummy puts in a quarter and Donald and said child start "RIDING" !!

It is sick, it is obvious and anyone saying otherwise has their heads in the sand.

You tube "the antichrist dajjal will be a reptilian shapeshifter" and "disney subliminal sex messages!" .....You'll see.

[apekteina lordosis]

really?, where did you hear that?

it says it was an official broadcast..? aired at 3pm

there's a few links on t'net explaining, here's one of them...
http://rainbow.arch.scriptmania.com/rainbow_tv_episode.html

not that some kids tv shows don't have humour that is meant more for the adults who might be watching, i can remember many a saturday morning episode of "going live" that was "naughty", especially when trevor and simon were performing sketches.

[lottie]

I agree with this poster. Just a bored designer having a laugh.

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The other thing is... these people cant be 'bored and just having a laugh' i mean c'mon... these are professionals, these logos will have had to have been started and sketched from a drawingboard idea...then several different protoype ideas drawn up then 'sold' to the company maoam afer a 'presentation'...and possibly several rejections of "no- thats not what we're looking for...something more suggestive maybe?" (LOL:D) its serious money with consequences if they arn't marketed properly- i dont think designers 'get bored' its their career on the line if they do... there's more to it than.. "make us a sweetie wrapper"..."ok...oh i cant be bothered...brainstorm...think...think......im thinking..fruit...licking...juicy...oh sod it lets just randomly draw some fruit pleasuring each other for a laugh and maybe maoam wont notice..." :D

[lottie]

Holy I think you are correct. If you have watched the dajjal videos they go into details about this. It is a subliminal to put sex into the minds of our children from young. Disney are renowned for it.

They are BLATANTLY sexual, the cherries are having a gang bang!! This just reminds me of a Disney ride of Donald Duck , he is sat on his back with a very satisfied look on his face and his hands behind his head, this child straddles Donald Duck and Mummy puts in a quarter and Donald and said child start "RIDING" !!

It is sick, it is obvious and anyone saying otherwise has their heads in the sand.

You tube "the antichrist dajjal will be a reptilian shapeshifter" and "disney subliminal sex messages!" .....You'll see.


yeah like the Aladdin film when the genie whispers 'take off your clothes, take off your clothes'... why the outrage if children dont pick up on this stuff? why the outrage at Disney cartoons inuendo's and subliminal penises if it has no effect on kids? I dont get it?!

[thirdwave]

there's a few links on t'net explaining, here's one of them...
http://rainbow.arch.scriptmania.com/rainbow_tv_episode.html

not that some kids tv shows don't have humour that is meant more for the adults who might be watching, i can remember many a saturday morning episode of "going live" that was "naughty", especially when trevor and simon were performing sketches.

ahh thanks, bloody youtube bullshitters, still the points the same...

[thirdwave]

It seems to be all part of layering it up in their minds..via subliminal messages in so many things around them.. little by little, building it into the subconscious.


But how can a child who's sexual hormones are not even working view these images as anything but fun bubbly stuff with two bits of fruit licking each other on a sweet packet?

Ok, its perfectly possible for subliminal stuff to get into peoples minds but are you saying subliminally kids are sexually active?

Also these is nothing twisted here... its simply a suggestion that sex is fun... as kids will go to the sweet shop and get off on sweets grown ups go around looking for sex.... there is nothing twisted about it..

as the child grows older what effect will these sweet packets have that would alter what a child would develop into anyway?...

[brainfreeze]

But how can a child who's sexual hormones are not even working view these images as anything but fun bubbly stuff with two bits of fruit licking each other on a sweet packet?

Ok, its perfectly possible for subliminal stuff to get into peoples minds but are you saying subliminally kids are sexually active?

Also these is nothing twisted here... its simply a suggestion that sex is fun... as kids will go to the sweet shop and get off on sweets grown ups go around looking for sex.... there is nothing twisted about it..

as the child grows older what effect will these sweet packets have that would alter what a child would develop into anyway?...

If they're well balanced kids they'll grow up and see the sweet packet as perhaps a little fruity.

Others will grow up seeing all sorts of nasties in all sorts of things.

[lottie]

But how can a child who's sexual hormones are not even working view these images as anything but fun bubbly stuff with two bits of fruit licking each other on a sweet packet?

Ok, its perfectly possible for subliminal stuff to get into peoples minds but are you saying subliminally kids are sexually active?

Also these is nothing twisted here... its simply a suggestion that sex is fun... as kids will go to the sweet shop and get off on sweets grown ups go around looking for sex.... there is nothing twisted about it..

as the child grows older what effect will these sweet packets have that would alter what a child would develop into anyway?...

Its about it staying in the subconscious until a time when prehaps homones do kick in...and any tbh mate... the feel good hormones are there they just arnt as obvious and developed... anyone knows kids 'do stuff' in order to 'find their bits' and get a nice feeling...they may not know what it is/means but its a pleasureable experience for them!

Its like a documentary i was waching about homosexuality ages ago - a gay man was trying to find out if his brain was gay or if it was just his desire... his brain was monitored and cat scanned etc and he was subjected to images of various things... his brain actually responded to all the things that were heterosexual and not the homosexual things yet he still maintained he was homosexual even though the results proved his brain wasnt!

You never know how the subconscious works and what it stores ad why... imo- maybe a child wouldnt be as ready to engage in sexual practices at such a young age or even have the interest had it not had its subconscious mind subjected with images throughout its childhood but i could be wrong! Maybe if it hadnt had any subliminal influence the child may remain happy to be innocent until teenhood or something- but its just my hypothesis. There must be a reason for using these subliminals or else why would they bother?

[lottie]

In DI's tales from the timeloop, he says that we are actually a sexually repressed society (i disagree but never-the-less) and that by using subliminals we engage peoples subconscious desire in sexual activity and then in conscious time we condemn them for it!

IE; we chastise people's sexual choices like engaging in porn yet most of us secretly desire it too but on the surface we have to appear to condemn it- i suppose thus leaving our minds in a state of confusion. Like when we say 'porn is sick'... after trawling through lots of images of it in order to come up with that opinion.

[thirdwave]

Its about it staying in the subconscious until a time when prehaps homones do kick in...and any tbh mate... the feel good hormones are there they just arnt as obvious and developed... anyone knows kids 'do stuff' in order to 'find their bits' and get a nice feeling...they may not know what it is/means but its a pleasureable experience for them!

Well lets say that was the case then, what harm is it going to do?.. as when the hormones kick in what are these distant subliminal message of sexual implications going to do?.. there is nothing twisted about sex.

The only thing that is twisted about this is that someone wants to sell sweets using peoples sexual desires to lure them into buying them.

Its like a documentary i was waching about homosexuality ages ago - a gay man was trying to find out if his brain was gay or if it was just his desire... his brain was monitored and cat scanned etc and he was subjected to images of various things... his brain actually responded to all the things that were heterosexual and not the homosexual things yet he still maintained he was homosexual even though the results proved his brain wasnt!
Could this documentary have been putting subliminal stuff out ? ;)

But no, I agree subliminal stuff can have a big effect on people and even confuse a persons sexuality... but while the hormones are dormant then it certainty will not have an immediate effect on a child and these images are not twisted enough to effect them as they get older anyway.... there is nothing wrong with sex... nothing negative about it...

I think for subliminals to have a negative effect its what it crossed over .... what the message is sarounded by ... and what the message is implying.

these images are simply saying sweets and sex are fun... infact telling a kid that when they get older they will find sex a little bit like sweets, is not exacetly going to create a Ted Bundy.

Maybe if it hadnt had any subliminal influence the child may remain happy to be innocent until teenhood or something- but its just my hypothesis. There must be a reason for using these subliminals or else why would they bother?
But a child can and would remain innocent looking at these, any child that would pick up these sweets and think "what are those fruits doing?... are they sexually interacting" .. should have their brains studied!... I think they would be to busy munching on them to even give a thought...

Why is there sexual images on them?.. because grown ups by sweets for them selves and their kids... so with these sweets you have a bubbly fruit cover, and some subtle and fun sexual subliminal on them to lure the 16+ to them.

though like I say, I am open to there being a sinister side to it simply where the creators enjoy seeing kids eating this stuff not knowing what's on the cover... from you know who..

I guess none of us know the real deal behind them and we could all be wrong, But it does not do it for me.

[lottie]

Well lets say that was the case then, what harm is it going to do?.. as when the hormones kick in what are these distant subliminal message of sexual implications going to do?.. there is nothing twisted about sex.

I completely agree- there's nothing sinister about sex but sex is not just an 'off the cuff' act imo- its about Love and respect and vulnerability and many many other factors, i have no problem with children finding who they are and discovering sexual identity but there's a point i draw the line when actual children want to engage in intercourse or sexual acts when they dont have the emotions or understanding for it. Thats when you get all sorts of problems, number one in this country for instance is a complete lack of respect for humans in society. Kids having sex, teen pregnancies, STD's etc etc...it comes with all sorts of baggage....

The only thing that is twisted about this is that someone wants to sell sweets using peoples sexual desires to lure them into buying them.

Ok but why? I'd buy them anyway- just because the package is brightly coloured and tbh i havnt looked at the image before and ive seen them advertised for ages and seen 'em in tesco's, its taken someone to bring it my attention to realise the images anyway...but thats not to say i didnt subliminally 'see' the image along time ago!!


Could this documentary have been putting subliminal stuff out ? ;)

:p

But no, I agree subliminal stuff can have a big effect on people and even confuse a persons sexuality... but while the hormones are dormant then it certainty will not have an immediate effect on a child and these images are not twisted enough to effect them as they get older anyway.... there is nothing wrong with sex... nothing negative about it...

As i said above- nothing wrong with sex...when you're old enough and developed enough to engage in it- chidren dont and arnt ...not physically or emotionally!

I think for subliminals to have a negative effect its what it crossed over .... what the message is sarounded by ... and what the message is implying.

these images are simply saying sweets and sex are fun... infact telling a kid that when they get older they will find sex a little bit like sweets, is not exacetly going to create a Ted Bundy.

LOL..
But a child can and would remain innocent looking at these, any child that would pick up these sweets and think "what are those fruits doing?... are they sexually interacting" .. should have their brains studied!... I think they would be to busy munching on them to even give a thought...

Why is there sexual images on them?.. because grown ups by sweets for them selves and their kids... so with these sweets you have a bubbly fruit cover, and some subtle and fun sexual subliminal on them to lure the 16+ to them.

Prehaps try and see what the 'target age market' is... but i certainly dont think these images are aimed at the adults- possibly but the majority of adults dont eat sweets... thats not the target audience for sweets!

though like I say, I am open to there being a sinister side to it simply where the creators enjoy seeing kids eating this stuff not knowing what's on the cover... from you know who..

I guess none of us know the real deal behind them and we could all be wrong, But it does not do it for me.

I hope there isnt anything sinister but i doubt it- you know what the likes of Disney do...im sure you've read enough DI books by now TW...- if i was a marketing person i would steer welll away from selling sex to kids...its compliance in abuse imo! Some fruit laughing and holding hands would have been enough...:)

[friendsinthesky]

But how can a child who's sexual hormones are not even working view these images as anything but fun bubbly stuff with two bits of fruit licking each other on a sweet packet?

Ok, its perfectly possible for subliminal stuff to get into peoples minds but are you saying subliminally kids are sexually active?

Also these is nothing twisted here... its simply a suggestion that sex is fun... as kids will go to the sweet shop and get off on sweets grown ups go around looking for sex.... there is nothing twisted about it..



Fuck, you have lived a sheltered life. You never played "doctors and nurses"? Now where would a child get that idea?

[thirdwave]

I completely agree- there's nothing sinister about sex but sex is not just an 'off the cuff' act imo- its about Love and respect and vulnerability and many many other factors, i have no problem with children finding who they are and discovering sexual identity but there's a point i draw the line when actual children want to engage in intercourse or sexual acts when they dont have the emotions or understanding for it. Thats when you get all sorts of problems, number one in this country for instance is a complete lack of respect for humans in society. Kids having sex, teen pregnancies, STD's etc etc...it comes with all sorts of baggage....

I see where you are coming from here, but all this is mostly due to how sex is treated .... lots of boys will want sex because they feel they have to and if they get to a certain age and they are not getting it they are under pressure... they have sex because of this rather than because they have a natural desire... so on..

But this does not mean that if they become full of lust for one moment with a girl that it is bad and wrong... that moment could still be of value for there growing experience and development as a human... which is why it was so lustful... there is no reason two people cant have sex kiss and say "till next time" .. nothing horrid about that at all IMO.


Ok but why? I'd buy them anyway- just because the package is brightly coloured and tbh i havnt looked at the image before and ive seen them advertised for ages and seen 'em in tesco's, its taken someone to bring it my attention to realise the images anyway...but thats not to say i didnt subliminally 'see' the image along time ago!!
Sex sells, that's why Brittany spears is famous... its why Brad pit is a big actor... maybe allot of people here wont by the sweets because of the trick.. hence this thread... but many will, not knowing it, as you say, subliminally... I'm just saying that kids do not have that anywhere in their mind to get drawn to it..even subliminally...

"Gillette, the best a man can get"
"L'Oréal, because your worth it"

all these things work on the masses...


As i said above- nothing wrong with sex...when you're old enough and developed enough to engage in it- chidren dont and arnt ...not physically or emotionally!
I agree.


Prehaps try and see what the 'target age market' is... but i certainly dont think these images are aimed at the adults- possibly but the majority of adults dont eat sweets... thats not the target audience for sweets!
you would be surprised, those Haribos are quite tasty!

I hope there isnt anything sinister but i doubt it- you know what the likes of Disney do...im sure you've read enough DI books by now TW...- if i was a marketing person i would steer welll away from selling sex to kids...its compliance in abuse imo! Some fruit laughing and holding hands would have been enough...

Yeah with Disney and stuff it all goes on all right, but for me it is more symbolic than child kind control... its all about expressing the childs innocents which disturbingly is what they gain from...

[thirdwave]

Fuck, you have lived a sheltered life. You never played "doctors and nurses"? Now where would a child get that idea?

Are you saying that kids are sexually inspired when they play Docters and Nurses?...

No, they are not inspired by sex at all because they are simply not sexually active.... they do not look at nurses and think "Fwwwaaa Im going to get Kim at nursery school to dress up in that!"

No, sex is not on their mind, they are pure... even if they find a girl pretty it would be for face value ..not sexual.

Are they manipulated into playing such games for the sexual gratification of others?.. maybe so...

But I have very much emphasised that point already.

[free_soul]

he he he ... fantastic!
Laugh every time I look at them.
... and I'm not going to say sorry for finding them humorous.

and so you shouldnt! :P I like the one with the orange the lil wink the green thing givin it lmao

[free_soul]

Fuck, you have lived a sheltered life. You never played "doctors and nurses"? Now where would a child get that idea?

Erm you played doctors and nurses to make people better, or thats why i used to play it...

[friendsinthesky]

Erm you played doctors and nurses to make people better, or thats why i used to play it...

Ok, maybe you're an outcast, but most children who played "doctors and nurses" touched in places deemed inappropriate.

[size_of_light]

Ok, maybe you're an outcast, but most children who played "doctors and nurses" touched in places deemed inappropriate.

No kids I went to school with ever played such a game. How do you even play something like that in a schoolyard?

I always thought it was a myth.

[friendsinthesky]

No kids I went to school with ever played such a game. How do you even play something like that in a schoolyard?

I always thought it was a myth.

most children "who played"...I didn't say all children played.

[friendsinthesky]

Are you saying that kids are sexually inspired when they play Docters and Nurses?...

No, they are not inspired by sex at all because they are simply not sexually active.... they do not look at nurses and think "Fwwwaaa Im going to get Kim at nursery school to dress up in that!"

No, sex is not on their mind, they are pure... even if they find a girl pretty it would be for face value ..not sexual.

Are they manipulated into playing such games for the sexual gratification of others?.. maybe so...

But I have very much emphasised that point already.

I disagree.:D

[holy_wood]

however, fact is that our children are being "prepared" with subliminal messages for the future...

and that is something very bad, so i really wondered, why at the first 1-3 pages of thuis thread people could only laugh wat this and make fun of it ...

but now, it seems like there is some understanding more of this ;)

i do not forbid, or want to forbis to laugh at something, but this is how it his :)

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[friendsinthesky]

however, fact is that our children are being "prepared" with subliminal messages for the future...

and that is something very bad, so i really wondered, why at the first 1-3 pages of thuis thread people could only laugh wat this and make fun of it ...



Here here, but the truth will be drowned out.

[netta]

Yeah that's pretty messed up, but it's funny.

[thirdwave]

I disagree.:D

that was not the question though... but seeing as I am clearly no where near agreeing with you, maybe there is no point in the debate...

I'm quite shocked you think any kids who choose to play doctors and nurses are being sexual.... in fact it is quite a freaky perspective and one the perverts would dream of.

[metacomet]

Yeah it's pretty blatant. Funny, too. But blatant.

Never ceases to amaze me how naive people are though.

Anyone who doesn't see sexual imagery here is a fucking 'tard. Sorry.

[thetonic]

Yeah it's pretty blatant. Funny, too. But blatant.



When does it stop being funny?

When your(not you meta) 13 year old daughter comes home and tells you she's pregnant and needs you to shell out $500 for an abortion?

When your 10 year old son tells you he thinks hes gay?

When your neighbor goes to prison for child molestation?

Teen pregnancy on the rise. Pedophilia running rampant. Degradation of values/morals, broken homes left , right , and center . Its a laugh riot I know

These issues need correcting or humanity is finished... You are looking at the beginning of the NWO... Do you want to know the end result? Hell on earth.

Time to choose which future you would like your children to have

[free_soul]

No kids I went to school with ever played such a game. How do you even play something like that in a schoolyard?

I always thought it was a myth.

Thankyou someone else wasnt a horny todler lol

If people want to winge about games we used to play in the ground would prbs be cops and robbers...

[unusual_suspect]

When does it stop being funny?

When your(not you meta) 13 year old daughter comes home and tells you she's pregnant and needs you to shell out $500 for an abortion?

When your 10 year old son tells you he thinks hes gay?

When your neighbor goes to prison for child molestation?

Teen pregnancy on the rise. Pedophilia running rampant. Degradation of values/morals, broken homes left , right , and center . Its a laugh riot I know

These issues need correcting or humanity is finished... You are looking at the beginning of the NWO... Do you want to know the end result? Hell on earth.

Time to choose which future you would like your children to have

I think you should be more concerned about the filth they churn out on the disney channel, Nickelodeon, and the adverts aimed at kids.

I can see your point about the sweet wrapper, but TV has a lot more to answer for - but that's only my opinion.

[thirdwave]

Yeah it's pretty blatant. Funny, too. But blatant.

Never ceases to amaze me how naive people are though.

Anyone who doesn't see sexual imagery here is a fucking 'tard. Sorry.

anyone who has over looked the fact that no one at all on the thread has claimed to not see sexual implication on these sweet packets but implys some have, may also be a tard, sorry.

[thirdwave]

the thing is, people have seen this as negative subliminal mind control, but they have not actual stated what damage it is doing?

Sex is not a negative oppressive thing and kids should not be taught it is IMO.

So if a child is to young to understand sex... then they would be to young to understand the implications on the packets... no?

if they are old enough to understand sex and are subliminally effected by sexual implications.. (on a sweet packet) then what is the concern?, we see sex sold on TV, radio, and magazines all over the world?

should we ban kids going into super markets for fear of them seeing a woman pouting on the front cover of a magazine...?

Here is another example.. I remember when I was young and I watched the "Blue Lagoon" ... it was a family film and kids loved it.

there was a part when they were both going through puberty and become sexually frustrated with each other...

one scene shows him with his back to the cam leaning against a rock masturbating... it was done in a way that it was like he could have bee fishing... but a grown up will see its clearly him having a wank... The girl
asked him what he was doing and he told her to go away...

Now, When I was younger and watched it, I had never masturbated before and was quite young... And I remember asking my mothers "mum... what was he doing?"... and I remember my mum and friends laughing and then just saying something like he was doing some fishing to take his mind off the girl... or something like that... and I was happy with the answer...

It was only when I watched the vid after I had grown up that I could see what he was really doing... but it had no effect on me at all as I was ignorant to what was going on at the time...

I dont understand that if a child is ignorant to what the implications mean on the packet then how it can effect them...

I will also point out that I dont think there would have been anything wrong with my mother at the time being a bit more informative of what the guy was doing in the film... I really dont.

[lottie]

the thing is, people have seen this as negative subliminal mind control, but they have not actual stated what damage it is doing?


I agree- we're all guilty of jumping on the bandwagon and saying... 'subliminals...outrageous' but clearly none of us seem to know what damage they are really doing to children inparticular... (or no-one's said so if they do) Im just going on what ive read in Ickes books and the few you tube vids ive watched regarding subliminals and also the 'common sense' in my head which says... the elite have an agenda (thats why they use subliminals) and they dont 'care' about us at all. and asking why does sonmething that appeals to a child need to have a sexual connotation...especially if children dont understand sex. Maybe the PTB know more than we do? Why do they use subliminals in cartoons...ie-disney if it doesnt affect children?

Maybe we all need to do more research on what subliminals actually do?! :)

[unusual_suspect]

I agree- we're all guilty of jumping on the bandwagon and saying... 'subliminals...outrageous' but clearly none of us seem to know what damage they are really doing to children inparticular... (or no-one's said so if they do) Im just going on what ive read in Ickes books and the few you tube vids ive watched regarding subliminals and also the 'common sense' in my head which says... the elite have an agenda (thats why they use subliminals) and they dont 'care' about us at all. and asking why does sonmething that appeals to a child need to have a sexual connotation...especially if children dont understand sex. Maybe the PTB know more than we do? Why do they use subliminals in cartoons...ie-disney if it doesnt affect children?

Maybe we all need to do more research on what subliminals actually do?! :)

I agree, but part of me also thinks that what if the people doing this are just having a laugh and there is nothing more to it?

I think it's a bit of both tbh.

[lottie]

I agree, but part of me also thinks that what if the people doing this are just having a laugh and there is nothing more to it?

I think it's a bit of both tbh.

You cant rule out the possibility...but who exactly is 'having a laugh'???:confused:

.....the marketting and confectionary industries are billion dollar/pound industries... you dont just mess around and 'have a laugh' when billions of dollars/pounds are at stake!! its not like in the movies!! :D

[torus]

a big MAMA O

[torus]

president OMAMA

[unusual_suspect]

You cant rule out the possibility...but who exactly is 'having a laugh'???:confused:

.....the marketting and confectionary industries are billion dollar/pound industries... you dont just mess around and 'have a laugh' when billions of dollars/pounds are at stake!! its not like in the movies!! :D

You are right, maybe the packaging on these sweets was meant to be risque? Also, it's parents who have the money not kids and they do say that sex sells.

Maybe we are confusing subliminals aimed at children with subliminals aimed at adults who are actually the ones parting with the money? Maybe a mixture of all of the thing mentioned in this thread.

[thetonic]

I think you should be more concerned about the filth they churn out on the disney channel, Nickelodeon, and the adverts aimed at kids.

I can see your point about the sweet wrapper, but TV has a lot more to answer for - but that's only my opinion.

Its all connected sweety. Any medium they can use they will. Its not that they use sweet wrappers alone, they will use it on the t.v., in magazines, in toys etc... I told you this is a world wide effort by the secret societies

[thetonic]

I agree- we're all guilty of jumping on the bandwagon and saying... 'subliminals...outrageous' but clearly none of us seem to know what damage they are really doing to children inparticular... (or no-one's said so if they do)

Speak for yourself

Ive covered this topic ad nauseam in other threads and have given much information regarding the purpose of such subliminal manipulation

Nobody seems to notice or care

[thirdwave]

Speak for yourself

Ive covered this topic ad nauseam in other threads and have given much information regarding the purpose of such subliminal manipulation

Nobody seems to notice or care

care to answer my question then?

a, do you think that kids minds are sexually active enough to understand that there are sexual implications on these covers?

b, what is the damage in a child seeing something of a sexual nature where the only thing expressed is sweets and sex..?

I don't except vague implications and opinions.. we all have a right to be suspicious and sceptical and to an extent should be, as Lottie pointed out, ok... but if one is going to be stern and confident in there stance then my questions should be easy to answer...

[deem]

I think you see what you wanna see on those wrappers. i see fruit having fun tickling each other. most kids i know that eat them don't even look at the wrapper, they'r intent on getting to the sweets inside and stuffing them in their mouths with the ferouscity of wolves.

[thirdwave]

well regarding the post by "sade", i do not share these views of the people that go the other way around and still cant get it in their heads that subliminals are very real and very dangerous... UFO reports are very real as well, as real as many thing you may choose to believe in.... so on... so all that is an ignorance that is worse of all TBH......

Oh I believe the world is packed full of mind control and messages passing into the back of peoples minds (ironically it is due to this so many find it impossible to believe that UFO stuff is real)... I just don't agree with many peoples claims of the nature of certain agendas out there...

[thetonic]

[QUOTE]care to answer my question then?

a, do you think that kids minds are sexually active enough to understand that there are sexual implications on these covers?

You need to understand the difference between the subconscious and the conscious mind. The subconscious mind is that which absorbs everything, all external stimulus is taken in by the subconscious be it images, sounds, vibrations etc. So the subconscious acts as a recorder of life, your entire life is stored in your subconscious like a hard drive of a computer.

Your conscious mind will access the subconscious to obtain the meaning it will project onto your reality. It will process the stimuli it has absorbed and then formulate the reality that you are co-authouring/co creating.

So if you have been bombarded with sexual stimuli from day one then your mind will begin to shape your personality based upon that stimuli... YOUR VERY PERSONALITY is a result of various stimuli you have absorbed subconsciously and consciously throughout your life.

So to answer your question, childrens minds are being bombarded with sexual images/symbols to formulate their sexuality at as early an age as possible and with as twisted meaning to the concept of 'sex' as possible. Havent you noticed little kids becoming more sexually active / driven in these recent times? You dont need to answer that really if your are under 30yrs old because you wouldnt notice probably anyhow...

b, what is the damage in a child seeing something of a sexual nature where the only thing expressed is sweets and sex..?

refer to above and try to put two and two together for yourself... You can do that right?

keep in mind that sexual energy is very powerful and very important to ritual

[lottie]

Speak for yourself

Ive covered this topic ad nauseam in other threads and have given much information regarding the purpose of such subliminal manipulation

Nobody seems to notice or care

hey easy tiger.. im just asking questions... im sorry ive missed your threads.. i dont get to read every thread and there are long periods where im not online.

I certainly do care and will look at them now you've highlighted it!!

and thankyou for your explanation above that helps me to understand it a lot better... david icke talks about subliminals in his books but from what ive tried looking at over the last day or so in my copies has not been aimed at children... only society in general!

[thirdwave]

You need to understand the difference between the subconscious and the conscious mind.

LOL, No, I am perfeclty aware of that from first hand experiences.

The subconscious mind is that which absorbs everything, all external stimulus is taken in by the subconscious be it images, sounds, vibrations etc. So the subconscious acts as a recorder of life, your entire life is stored in your subconscious like a hard drive of a computer.

Yes, but you are just telling people what they already know... the fact that we only use 10% of our brains is also very relevant here, and that most of our DNA is out of our understanding..

Your conscious mind will access the subconscious to obtain the meaning it will project onto your reality. It will process the stimuli it has absorbed and then formulate the reality that you are co-authouring/co creating.
Ok.... :)

So if you have been bombarded with sexual stimuli from day one then your mind will begin to shape your personality based upon that stimuli... YOUR VERY PERSONALITY is a result of various stimuli you have absorbed subconsciously and consciously throughout your life.

Yes, you are simply explaining how the mind developse and can be manipulated...

but you are not covering the part where a child will assume that these images are sexual?... when they wont, they will only learn they are once they have sexual thoughts due to there hormonal development..

anyone that looks at these images and see's sex will have sexually active minds... and from then it will simply be about the sweet manufacturers trying to profit from that attraction.

And I point out again, even the way these sweets are depicting sex... teaching kids that sex is fun is not at all harmful... this seems to be some myth that is never explained other than "kids should remain innocent".. well ok, but kids do not stay kids and must also be taught and prepared.


So to answer your question, childrens minds are being bombarded with sexual images/symbols to formulate their sexuality at as early an age as possible and with as twisted meaning to the concept of 'sex' as possible.

ahh ok, so here we get to the point...

so you think images like this encourage sexual thoughts...

Ok, well if we are talking about people with sexually active minds, who can perceive it in these pictures... then we are talking about useing desires as a way of manipulating and inciting people..

this goes on all the time and it is nothing that is being planted into us.. it is something that is useing such things as a weakness...

it most sertianly is not targeted at young kinds who are not sexually active.. as they will simply not understand them... it is targeted at those who know what the images look like..



Havent you noticed little kids becoming more sexually active / driven in these recent times? You dont need to answer that really if your are under 30yrs old because you wouldnt notice probably anyhow...

Yes I have noticed, But this is because the human race have been sexually repressed and we are now seeing the backfire of such... how can you expect a sexually repressed race to suddenly be fine?...

No there are going to be all kinds of repercussions and this is what we see today... in all kinds of shapes and sizes.. sex has gone crazy...

and while most are sitting ducks with subliminal stuff... they are also packed full of sexual hormones that have and always will be there...


refer to above and try to put two and two together for yourself... You can do that right?
It is not putting 2 and 2 together.. it is simply a case of there being alot more than 2 and 2....

I refer to Bill Hicks... The hard on invented porn... porn did not invent the hard on.

if you repress the hard on... it will only get harder.


keep in mind that sexual energy is very powerful and very important to ritual
and is used to fuck with people everyday.

[entrangermercenary]

So just asked my 7 and 9 yr old to have a look at the op. I asked them what they thought of the pictures and both said they are ok. NO grinning or laughing of them just said it looks like fun !!In the background are my 2 eldest 15 and 12 pissing themsleves laughing.

So if you think its perverted for the little ones, no they see nothing like that but fun. For the 2 eldest well thats teenagers for you :D As for the adults ffs get a grip If u have young ones ask them yourself, You will find out for yourselves what they think.

[thetonic]

I certainly do care and will look at them now you've highlighted it!!



thanks lottie

more evidence

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=920384&postcount=44

and here

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1032498&postcount=6

[thirdwave]

So just asked my 7 and 9 yr old to have a look at the op. I asked them what they thought of the pictures and both said they are ok. NO grinning or laughing of them just said it looks like fun !!In the background are my 2 eldest 15 and 12 pissing themsleves laughing.

So if you think its perverted for the little ones, no they see nothing like that but fun. For the 2 eldest well thats teenagers for you :D As for the adults ffs get a grip If u have young ones ask them yourself, You will find out for yourselves what they think.


Many think these manifacturers sit down and think "lets creat a packet that will inject this and that into the human race!"..

No they don't..

they sit down and think how can we create a cover that is going to make lots of people buy our sweets!... that is the goal!

once they are a big company with their name everywhere then they are usually bought out and we start to see odd things go on...

I think that sometimes people are so filled with fear of stuff people might be taking in that this in its self is further manipulation from the elite as they clearly know many are aware of their behaviour and methods... i think in many cases they simply fuck with people as well..

[mountain]

What some of you fail to understand is that these are subliminals, hidden messages or symbols directed at the subconscious mind of ANY person, child and adult.

Its not about whether a child can perceive the message, the brain does.

So stop bickering people, its a known fact that they affect us until we are aware of their meanings and existence.

I found a Newport cigarette ad that had a d*ck big and plain as day in-between some jolly happy dancing couple, you know how they always use a jolly couples. It was done so sneaky I was so shocked but not anymore.

I will take a pic of the ad and post it as I begged the liquor merchant to let me have it....

[beldazar]

What some of you fail to understand is that these are subliminals, hidden messages or symbols directed at the subconscious mind of ANY person, child and adult.

Its not about whether a child can perceive the message, the brain does.

So stop bickering people, its a known fact that they affect us until we are aware of their meanings and existence.I found a Newport cigarette ad that had a d*ck big and plain as day in-between some jolly happy dancing couple, you know how they always use a jolly couples. It was done so sneaky I was so shocked but not anymore.

I will take a pic of the ad and post it as I begged the liquor merchant to let me have it....

Well Said Mountain!

(I dunno, some people :rolleyes:)

[itsallinus]

You should take into account the amount of crap they put in cows milk which effect your hormones which are causing children to become sexually active younger and younger (goat's milk seems a safer option?).

It's make's sense they are trying to get to kids the most, they are our future and also the future enforcers for tptb if they can condition there innocent and vulnerable minds that the police state, the watching, the corruption and porn and most of all, the conditioning that this is all there is and can be, that it's (the nwo) the best possible future for them.

[entrangermercenary]

You should take into account the amount of crap they put in cows milk which effect your hormones which are causing children to become sexually active younger and younger (goat's milk seems a safer option?).

It's make's sense they are trying to get to kids the most, they are our future and also the future enforcers for tptb if they can condition there innocent and vulnerable minds that the police state, the watching, the corruption and porn and most of all, the conditioning that this is all there is and can be, that it's (the nwo) the best possible future for them.

Yep so true. Hidden amongst the lego in my 7 and 9 yrs room was a packet of fruit flavoured condoms and some ticklers :eek:. FFS had to ask them for advice which was the best :o :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[thirdwave]

What some of you fail to understand is that these are subliminals, hidden messages or symbols directed at the subconscious mind of ANY person, child and adult.

Its not about whether a child can perceive the message, the brain does.


this is all very ground braking stuff, where did you descover this?

that a person does not even have to know the slightest thing about something, yet understand it?

can you elaborate?


So stop bickering people, its a known fact that they affect us until we are aware of their meanings and existence.
I want to point out that it is you who is bickering...

it is not a known fact and you are simply stating your opinion.

I will point out again that if a child does not understand what sex is and does not have sexual urges, then seeing a lemon rub up against a green cartoon man is not going to make them think of sex... IMO thinking they would is incredibly silly.

I wish people would focus on things we are aware of and understand rather than throwing out speculation and opinions as if they are some scientific fact we should all live by...

it is not a way for people to learn or solve the worlds problems IMO.


I found a Newport cigarette ad that had a d*ck big and plain as day in-between some jolly happy dancing couple, you know how they always use a jolly couples. It was done so sneaky I was so shocked but not any more.

Usually people who smoke are sexually active people and more people probably smoke more when they need sex... so I don't see the relevance here.. other than subliminal advertising goes on... when brands use sex to lure sexually active people into buying their products.. Yep, I think it has been assessed that this goes on a tad :)

here

Pornography - Bill Hicks - YouTube


I will take a pic of the ad and post it as I begged the liquor merchant to let me have it....

but what has it got to do with two bits of fruit getting fruity on a sweet packet?..

can you prove that children who are not sexually active or aware will view two bits of fruit rubbing up against each other as anything else other than two bits of fruit enjoying them selves?

I am all ears. You have attempted to teach us the "facts"... so by all means go on...

[thirdwave]

Well Said Mountain!

(I dunno, some people :rolleyes:)

by all means take over from her and answer the question if you like..

I am ready to learn about this.. :)

[thirdwave]

You should take into account the amount of crap they put in cows milk which effect your hormones which are causing children to become sexually active younger and younger (goat's milk seems a safer option?).



I should?... why?, where you get this from?... so now I should believe that milk makes people more sexually active?

did you dream this..?... here it on TV?... where did this come from??

I promise you I will take it into account if you can forward my this info?

Also why do you think the elite want to make people more sexually active?.. so the population grows?...

I am the kind of guy that likes to learn things but I find these subjects a real pain to sink my teeth into..

[metacomet]

anyone who has over looked the fact that no one at all on the thread has claimed to not see sexual implication on these sweet packets but implys some have, may also be a tard, sorry.

:rolleyes: Dude, you don't always have to try so hard to argue the opposite point with me all the time.

It's tiresome and predictable. Yeah, we get it, you're so not prude and even though I said it was funny, I must be prude because I said it's sexual imagery.

Two fruits getting it on is sexual imagery and my statement remains true. You are either retarded or are simply being stubborn to say that the imagery isn't sexual.

I didn't say it was terrible, I didn't say it was anything. It is sexual innuendo.

The only argument I heard from you is 'well nobody in here thinks it's sexual.[/i]

Fuckin lame, dude. I can count at least a dozen people in here who said the same thing I did. "Haha yes that is sexual imagery."

Now go ahead and tell us we're all a bunch of prudes. Wave that banner of progressive moral relativity high in the sky! You are the leading edge!

This rant isn't so much directed at you as everyone in here who thinks they are somehow being progressive or practical by claiming the imagery isn't sexual. Bunch of stubborn asses.

[metacomet]

When does it stop being funny?

When your(not you meta) 13 year old daughter comes home and tells you she's pregnant and needs you to shell out $500 for an abortion?

When your 10 year old son tells you he thinks hes gay?

When your neighbor goes to prison for child molestation?


I suppose it would stop being funny right about then.

But for now it's imagery of fruits banging eachother so I will still giggle a little.

Hey, at least I'm not covering my eyes and claiming it's not sexual at all. Yikes.

[metacomet]

I want to point out that it is you who is bickering...


:confused: Mountain has hardly posted in this thread, dude.

The only person I see rallying full page rebuttals "it's not subliminal! It's not hurting the children!" Is YOU.


I will point out again that if a child does not understand what sex is and does not have sexual urges, then seeing a lemon rub up against a green cartoon man is not going to make them think of sex...

I knew what sex was by the time I was 6 years old. If you didn't, it would explain alot about your opinions.

I think you're just rallying for the ever-so-popular 'progressivist' mind-set where nothing is wrong and everything can be explained away.

You want to say that children are so innocent that their mind is unaffected by sexual imagery that adults might pick up. Hey, that's fine.

Just stop trying so hard to make everyone else seem crazy for noticing the obvious.

[thirdwave]

:rolleyes: Dude, you don't always have to try so hard to argue the opposite point with me all the time.

lol, flattering your self a tad their dude :)


Two fruits getting it on is sexual imagery and my statement remains true. You are either retarded or are simply being stubborn to say that the imagery isn't sexual.

Ok... are you just being ignorent or obnoctios?

I have not said that the imagery is not sexual.. and unless you are going to actually read my posts then I would advice to not reply to them :rolleyes:


I didn't say it was terrible, I didn't say it was anything. It is sexual innuendo.
well thanks for bringing that to light ... :rolleyes:

The only argument I heard from you is 'well nobody in here thinks it's sexual.[/i]
maybe you have been drinking or something.. I said no body here does not think its sexual .... like I say you are either expressing ignorance or simply being obnoxious.


Fuckin lame, dude. I can count at least a dozen people in here who said the same thing I did. "Haha yes that is sexual imagery."

LOL!!... *chucks another bit of pop corn in his mouth*... :)

Now go ahead and tell us we're all a bunch of prudes. Wave that banner of progressive moral relativity high in the sky! You are the leading edge!

Its much better hearing you speak.. :)


This rant isn't so much directed at you as everyone in here who thinks they are somehow being progressive or practical by claiming the imagery isn't sexual. Bunch of stubborn asses.

LOL!!!!

you need to slow down and read and only speak when you have something to say.

lol

[metacomet]

I have not said that the imagery is not sexual.. and unless you are going to actually read my posts then I would advice to not reply to them :rolleyes:


Here's your post.


anyone who has over looked the fact that no one at all on the thread has claimed to not see sexual implication on these sweet packets but implys some have, may also be a tard, sorry.

So, you said nobody in this thread has claimed that there isn't sexual implications to the imagery.

My bad.

That's still wrong.


I don't see perversion - just cuddling kissing and touching - the fruits have no sex organs or discernable age - so where is the perversion


I think the OP is overreacting...

Why cant you just see the innocence, and not make a mountain out of a molehill?
...
The lemon flavour is the only one which looks dodgy.

I actually think the cherries seem to be giving the most jolly of the rogerings. :p


the OP is overreacting


Are you kidding me, OP? Do you have a sick mind that you see something "perverted" in those pictures?
They remind me of a dog licking a child's face.
WAIT. THAT'S PERVERTED TOO! NOOOOO.

And on and on...

there are 22 pages here so I'm not really going to dig all of these up.

Plenty of people in here denying the sexual innuendo in the imagery. Why? I don't know. Maybe they are retarded... that was a theoretical aimed at everyone, not just you by the way.


LOL!!!!

you need to slow down and read and only speak when you have something to say.

lol

:confused: Alrighty. I'll just spew a bunch of lol's and rolleyes like yourself next time. Sorry to break decorum.

By the way - you are stalking this thread like a club bouncer or somethin. Put the war club down.

[thirdwave]

:confused: Mountain has hardly posted in this thread, dude.

The only person I see rallying full page rebuttals "it's not subliminal! It's not hurting the children!" Is YOU.

How many posts Moutain has posted is not really relevant though is it... ?

does it??

I knew what sex was by the time I was 6 years old. If you didn't, it would explain alot about your opinions.
Wow you was an early started dude! lol


I think you're just rallying for the ever-so-popular 'progressivist' mind-set where nothing is wrong and everything can be explained away.

Well feel free to think that, I can only put my views in the texts here, if you chose to completely overlook what I say, then its not really my issue.


You want to say that children are so innocent that their mind is unaffected by sexual imagery that adults might pick up. Hey, that's fine.


Well if we are still talking about the images on these sweet packets then Yes I stand by that %100 ... if a child see;s a man banging a woman doggy style then that child would then be introduced to something other than a lemon rubbing his tummy against a green cartoon character on some fruit flavoured sweets...

but if you feel they are two oif the same thing then maybe it has something to do with you be sexually active since 6?... :eek:


Just stop trying so hard to make everyone else seem crazy for noticing the obvious.

I have no intention of taking that advice thanks.. and must point out to you that it is in fact my self that is putting forward the opportunity for people to explain and teach their views on this.. but it is you with the oppressive mind set and actually telling me to simply withdraw my opinion ...

Of course you have about as much chance as that as you have of making sense :)

[mountain]

this is all very ground braking stuff, where did you descover this?

that a person does not even have to know the slightest thing about something, yet understand it?

can you elaborate?


I want to point out that it is you who is bickering...

it is not a known fact and you are simply stating your opinion.

I will point out again that if a child does not understand what sex is and does not have sexual urges, then seeing a lemon rub up against a green cartoon man is not going to make them think of sex... IMO thinking they would is incredibly silly.

I wish people would focus on things we are aware of and understand rather than throwing out speculation and opinions as if they are some scientific fact we should all live by...

it is not a way for people to learn or solve the worlds problems IMO.



Usually people who smoke are sexually active people and more people probably smoke more when they need sex... so I don't see the relevance here.. other than subliminal advertising goes on... when brands use sex to lure sexually active people into buying their products.. Yep, I think it has been assessed that this goes on a tad :)

here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcefX9TPlkY&feature=related



but what has it got to do with two bits of fruit getting fruity on a sweet packet?..

can you prove that children who are not sexually active or aware will view two bits of fruit rubbing up against each other as anything else other than two bits of fruit enjoying them selves?

I am all ears. You have attempted to teach us the "facts"... so by all means go on...

I am not the bickering type, mind you....

Just google 'subliminals' and you'll get ya answers. Or have a good read of Icke's 'Tales From The Timeloop' where he explains it like a pro.

[thirdwave]

Here's your post.

So, you said nobody in this thread has claimed that there isn't sexual implications to the imagery.

My bad.

Horray!!!! Well done!!! *claps*... lol


That's still wrong.


lol, naturally :rolleyes:






Plenty of people in here denying the sexual innuendo in the imagery. Why? I don't know. Maybe they are retarded... that was a theoretical aimed at everyone, not just you by the way.


LOL

your not having any of my energy old chap.... though you can keep trying :)



By the way - you are stalking this thread like a club bouncer or somethin. Put the war club down.

Dont let it beat you up so much...

[thirdwave]

I am not the bickering type, mind you....

Just google 'subliminals' and you'll get ya answers. Or have a good read of Icke's 'Tales From The Timeloop' where he explains it like a pro.

Ok, so just ignore my whole point and point me to the fact that subliminal mind control exists... thanks.

[metacomet]

but if you feel they are two oif the same thing then maybe it has something to do with you be sexually active since 6?... :eek:


:confused: Are you drunk?

Just because I said I knew what sex was by 6 doesn't mean I was having sex.

I knew what sexual imagery was even if it were two fruit banging eachother. I also knew what doggies were doing when they did their thing.

I think alot of people try to argue that children are totally ignorant about sexuality so that they can explain away obvious innuendo used in children's TV shows and in advertisement.


Of course you have about as much chance as that as you have of making sense :)
*shrug* I'm not the one throwing double negatives around. I also wouldn't make the mistake of calling someone 'sexually active' at 6 because they said they knew what sex was.

I think you have an itch to scratch which causes you to start bullshit arguments with... well... everyone. In every thread. That's why you try to tell people like Mountain to stop talking etc. when she's hardly said anything.

[metacomet]

Ok, so just ignore my whole point and point me to the fact that subliminal mind control exists... thanks.

She's doing us all a favor by not wasting her time on ya, dude. You would've just cherry picked statements and backpedalled on her points anyway :)

Please don't accuse me of trying to get your energy ever again. I like to snuff energy like yours out, not take it into myself.

[thirdwave]

Just because I said I knew what sex was by 6 doesn't mean I was having sex.

How did you know what sex was?.. because you saw a couple lemons going at it? lol

I knew what sexual imagery was even if it were two fruit banging eachother. I also knew what doggies were doing when they did their thing.

how did you learn this?.. where you a born sex guru?


I think alot of people try to argue that children are totally ignorant about sexuality so that they can explain away obvious innuendo used in children's TV shows and in advertisement.

Im one of them.. Kids do not have sexual thoughts and don't understand sex until they are taught about it or until they go through puberty...

Crazy I know.. :rolleyes:


*shrug* I'm not the one throwing double negatives around. I also wouldn't make the mistake of calling someone 'sexually active' at 6 because they said they knew what sex was.
Well I assumed you were keeping to the relevance of my point, obviously not ..

I think you have an itch to scratch which causes you to start bullshit arguments with... well... everyone. In every thread. That's why you try to tell people like Mountain to stop talking etc. when she's hardly said anything.

LOL, I was not aware asking questions was a sign of telling someone to stop talking... you are full of revelations LOL

:D
Have you finished Hi jacking the thread yet?.. or would you like to get back on topic?

[thirdwave]

Please don't accuse me of trying to get your energy ever again. I like to snuff energy like yours out, not take it into myself.

Just as long as you don't do it with a tazer then I should sleep ok...

your boring me now anyway...

ta da..

I will only reply to posts relevant to the thread topic ... and the points I raised.

[metacomet]

How did you know what sex was?.. because you saw a couple lemons going at it? lol


I mentioned dogs didn't I? Don't we all see dogs going at it when we're kids? :confused:

how did you learn this?.. where you a born sex guru?

No comment.


Im one of them.. Kids do not have sexual thoughts and don't understand sex until they are taught about it or until they go through puberty...


That's retarded, thirdwave!!!

There isn't anything overtly sexual about chasing little girls but we did it when we were kids. We stole kisses, we had crushes, it wasn't sexual but we understood the concept of attraction to the opposite sex.

I suppose that would be stretching the definition of sexual thoughts though.


LOL, I was not aware asking questions was a sign of telling someone to stop talking... you are full of revelations LOL

You accused her of bickering when, as I said, you're the one swinging at everyone's posts with a hatchet.


:D
Have you finished Hi jacking the thread yet?.. or would you like to get back on topic?

As long as you understand this is my territory now. :cool:

Seriously though, you never had a sexual thought when you were a kid? Not even a curious one?

[thirdwave]

As long as you understand this is my territory now. :cool:



Understood, is it ok If I continue to air my views here please?

[metacomet]

Understood, is it ok If I continue to air my views here please?

Now you're just being a puss.

I asked you a question. If you're really interested in a debate, get to it.

[thirdwave]

Now you're just being a puss.

I asked you a question. If you're really interested in a debate, get to it.

thanks big man!

:)

[thirdwave]

Ok..... anyone interested in what was being said just go back a page or two...

one thing I would like to add, Mr MC, do you think your seeing Dogs have sex when younger fucked with your head at all?... in the same way as seeing these sweet packets would?

Just a question, please don't get angry again.

[metacomet]

one thing I would like to add, Mr MC, do you think your seeing Dogs have sex when younger fucked with your head at all?

Probably. Not the same way that seeing a dog get hit by a car etc. would. Those are much darker things to be exposed to (I wasn't, but it's a good example.)

... in the same way as seeing these sweet packets would?
Yes, I do believe that imagery of fruit being in sexual positions could provoke just as much curiosity in a child to 'fuck with their head' a little.

The funny thing is they might not realize what they had seen until they were exposed to more graphic sexual imagery. Suddenly the light flicks on in their head and they tie past exposures in with it. This is what make subliminal imagery so effective.

[mountain]

Ok, so just ignore my whole point and point me to the fact that subliminal mind control exists... thanks.
You're welcome....

[thetonic]

Yes, but you are just telling people what they already know... the fact that we only use 10% of our brains is also very relevant here, and that most of our DNA is out of our understanding..


So you speak for everybody and their understanding of the mind? How audacious of you.

I would say all DNA is beyond your understanding gauging your poor grasp of most topics on this forum




Yes, you are simply explaining how the mind developse and can be manipulated...

but you are not covering the part where a child will assume that these images are sexual?... when they wont, they will only learn they are once they have sexual thoughts due to there hormonal development..

You obviously have missed the point of my post completely... You are certainly not an authority on how childrens minds develop. And a persons sexuality can be formulated long before puberty

anyone that looks at these images and see's sex will have sexually active minds... and from then it will simply be about the sweet manufacturers trying to profit from that attraction.

Wrong. You have completely missed the point again. Suprise!


And I point out again, even the way these sweets are depicting sex... teaching kids that sex is fun is not at all harmful... this seems to be some myth that is never explained other than "kids should remain innocent".. well ok, but kids do not stay kids and must also be taught and prepared.


So you are arguing now for the subliminal manipulation saying that "kids should not remain innocent" and that they need to be "taught and prepared" by the system... Whos side are you on again?

ahh ok, so here we get to the point...

so you think images like this encourage sexual thoughts...

Ok, well if we are talking about people with sexually active minds, who can perceive it in these pictures... then we are talking about useing desires as a way of manipulating and inciting people..


It does not take a 'sexually active mind' aka an adult to perceive that a sexual act is being portrayed



this goes on all the time and it is nothing that is being planted into us.. it is something that is useing such things as a weakness...

it most sertianly is not targeted at young kinds who are not sexually active.. as they will simply not understand them... it is targeted at those who know what the images look like..

You keep projecting your limited understanding of the mind. I think this topic is over your head

Yes I have noticed, But this is because the human race have been sexually repressed and we are now seeing the backfire of such... how can you expect a sexually repressed race to suddenly be fine?...

No there are going to be all kinds of repercussions and this is what we see today... in all kinds of shapes and sizes.. sex has gone crazy...


For gods sake lets hope you dont get sexually active and have a child. Your lineage should end asap.


and while most are sitting ducks with subliminal stuff... they are also packed full of sexual hormones that have and always will be there...


It is not putting 2 and 2 together.. it is simply a case of there being alot more than 2 and 2....

I refer to Bill Hicks... The hard on invented porn... porn did not invent the hard on.

if you repress the hard on... it will only get harder.


and is used to fuck with people everyday.



Im not going to even discuss this with you any further. In fact I usually make an effort to avoid your posts altogether. Your ignorance makes my head hurt. Do you actually even go back and read the inane drivel you type on this forum? Barely anything you type makes cognicent sense. Over 10,000 posts and you still have the grasping of a toddler what is going on around you.

Pathetic

[thirdwave]

Probably. Not the same way that seeing a dog get hit by a car etc. would. Those are much darker things to be exposed to (I wasn't, but it's a good example.)


Yes, I do believe that imagery of fruit being in sexual positions could provoke just as much curiosity in a child to 'fuck with their head' a little.

The funny thing is they might not realize what they had seen until they were exposed to more graphic sexual imagery. Suddenly the light flicks on in their head and they tie past exposures in with it. This is what make subliminal imagery so effective.

So do you think that seeing dogs have sex can fuck with a childs mind .. as seeing the sexual fruit pics can?

[metacomet]

Here's a really mild example of what most kids are exposed to by the time they're 6 (depending on where you live... I know the states are weird).

http://www.ridelust.com/wp-content/uploads/wyoming_library_mud_flap_girl.jpg

The mud flap girl is a widely recognized sexual image! When you're a kid it doesn't make much sense beyond "Men find that attractive." When you hit a certain age you realize "Men find that attractive because they want to have sex with women."

So... I compare it to the fruit having sex. A kid probably thinks "That's cheeky" but later on when they are exposed to the concept of sex it's going to pop into their head "Those fruit were DOING IT!"

[metacomet]

So do you think that seeing dogs have sex can fuck with a childs mind .. as seeing the sexual fruit pics can?

As far as provoking curiosity about sex, sure!

And if the child sees the fruit doing it doggy style (not actually the case here I suppose)... and he later sees Dogs going at it ... he will realize "The fruit were doing what the dogs are doing!"

[thirdwave]

So you speak for everybody and their understanding of the mind? How audacious of you.

I would say all DNA is beyond your understanding gauging your poor grasp of most topics on this forum


But I am speaking about what scientists have stated.. not what you think based on your views on my posts... and We are on a David Icke forum.. so forgive me for assuming that a few here have been given the run down on how mind control works... but feel free to claim to hold the revelation if it presses your button dude..



You obviously have missed the point of my post completely... You are certainly not an authority on how childrens minds develop. And a persons sexuality can be formulated long before puberty

I apologise i am simple trying to clarify your stance.. you were explaining to me how mind control works and this is what I highlighted.. what else can I say..

But I am not the one stating that I know... I am asking, as far as I know childrens minds are very detached from sex because there hormons are not yet developed so they are not manipulated by them.

These questions seem to be very hard work and it has now even creating much aggression.



Wrong. You have completely missed the point again. Suprise!
Its proving to be very hard to find this point...



So you are arguing now for the subliminal manipulation saying that "kids should not remain innocent" and that they need to be "taught and prepared" by the system... Who's side are you on again?
No, I have not said that kids should not remain innocent, although feel free to point out where I have...


It does not take a 'sexually active mind' aka an adult to perceive that a sexual act is being portrayed
But it does to be effected by it emotionally where the sexual impulses are effected... when as there are no sexual impulses.... and do you not think that it is worth drawing just a tiny line between lemons and strawberry's rubbing against each other on a sweet packet and a man and women naked banging the hell out of each other?

I think if a kid saw the latter it would not be subliminal would it?.. it would be a concious experience.... correct me if I'm wrong.


You keep projecting your limited understanding of the mind. I think this topic is over your head

Regardless of you being right or wrong about that... saying that to one who is asking questions is irresponsible IMO.


For gods sake lets hope you dont get sexually active and have a child. Your lineage should end asap.

Chilling words... Its interesting how people react to these questions.


Im not going to even discuss this with you any further. In fact I usually make an effort to avoid your posts altogether. Your ignorance makes my head hurt. Do you actually even go back and read the inane drivel you type on this forum? Barely anything you type makes cognicent sense. Over 10,000 posts and you still have the grasping of a toddler what is going on around you.

Pathetic

Ok, well Im not really talking about what you think of me and my views... I am talking about the subject in hand and if you cant handle someone defending their views then It is probably best you ignore my posts... you dont have to answer the questions and points I raise... its called freedom.

[thirdwave]

As far as provoking curiosity about sex, sure!

Ahh ok...

What I mean though is would it be damaging in the same way as the sweet packed is??, as that is what is being raised as an issue here.. or is your stance that you think making kids curios about sex is what is damaging??

or am I guessing wrong here?

And if the child sees the fruit doing it doggy style (not actually the case here I suppose)... and he later sees Dogs going at it ... he will realize "The fruit were doing what the dogs are doing!"

ok but the fruit is not doing it doggy style... had that been the case then maybe it would have been slightly more suggestive... that is not the case...

Are we to think then that because a child knows what sex is... that it is then active in their minds and they are responsive to it?

[thetonic]

Chilling words... Its interesting how people react to these questions.



Sorry , I am having issues and frustrations relating to conveying non-conveyable knowledge... Not your fault

I need to get off the internet. Im being consumed by my anger with humanity and hatred of the illuminati all at once

[entrangermercenary]

Just read all this again. Wow !! Seems all the adults arguing are forgetting the point. In my previous post my 7 and 9 yr old, that's children imo just looked at the images shrugged there shoulders said it was fun and went off to play. :)

So what bit don't you get about young children seeing images in a different light to adolescent or adults.Its innocent to them until you start making an issue about it !!

So people are saying this is conditioning them , for what exactly?? That when they hit puberty or 11 and 12 they will become sex maniacs. Don't hormones and being inquisitive come into play at that age anyway ??

Just my view as Ive 4 boys from 7-15 so they are all at different levels of knowledge, with the youngest 2 running a mile with the football if you suggest a girlfriend or kiss, 12 yr old prefers his sport and the eldest both !!

[thirdwave]

Just read all this again. Wow !! Seems all the adults arguing are forgetting the point. In my previous post my 7 and 9 yr old, that's children imo just looked at the images shrugged there shoulders said it was fun and went off to play. :)

So what bit don't you get about young children seeing images in a different light to adolescent or adults.Its innocent to them until you start making an issue about it !!

So people are saying this is conditioning them , for what exactly?? That when they hit puberty or 11 and 12 they will become sex maniacs. Don't hormones and being inquisitive come into play at that age anyway ??

Just my view as Ive 4 boys from 7-15 so they are all at different levels of knowledge, with the youngest 2 running a mile with the football if you suggest a girlfriend or kiss, 12 yr old prefers his sport and the eldest both !!

Sometimes I get so wound up on this place when the point you try to make is simply ignored, though still argued against!. I have been trying to express this very point you have made but rather than people simply agreeing or expressing that they disagree that a child's mind cant really be manipulated with sexual subliminals as they are not really sexual responsive... or to explain why they think it may be possible...They just act like I am not aware of subliminal mind control and that I should read this and that... (not directing it at Lottie and beyond... more latter in the thread)

GGGrrrrr! Obviously not directing it at all on this thread who disagree with me but this is why I get aggravated sometimes, :eek: for me it shows how not all "awake" people are prepared to see truth all the time but to just reinforce their new belief system...

I have been into this stuff for a long time and for me most people in it are tricked by info on the internet and mislead by it in the exact same way as they used to be when they were blind to the way people were manipulated by mainstream news and stuff, building their whole outlook on info they are given... Its like David Icke wrote in a news letter once... you come out of one box but then simply just jump into a bigger box which still keeps you captivated.

I will no longer converse on this thread until someone can provide me with information that shows or even implies its possible for a child who is not sexually active to be able to be manipulated by subliminals targeting sexual impulses. and if anyone tries to teach me about how the mind can be effected by subliminal messages I will scream.

[entrangermercenary]

Well I had football training this morning. I run a under 7s team with some under 6s mixed in. At the end 1 of the parents offers my to boys a packet of maoams. So another little experiment :D I showed the mum and said what do you think of that ?? OMG she replied then showed her the others !! She was genuinly shocked. So I said watch this, asked her boy and said whats that then, he looked at me and said "sweets " then ran off with my 2 to play.
So there again us adults get it but the kids !! NO

Who has kids who has posted on this subject and who has asked them what is it , or what do they see. I would say the relevant age group is 5-10yrs that is the market I take it they are aimed at.

More input please :)

[thirdwave]

Well I had football training this morning. I run a under 7s team with some under 6s mixed in. At the end 1 of the parents offers my to boys a packet of maoams. So another little experiment :D I showed the mum and said what do you think of that ?? OMG she replied then showed her the others !! She was genuinly shocked. So I said watch this, asked her boy and said whats that then, he looked at me and said "sweets " then ran off with my 2 to play.
So there again us adults get it but the kids !! NO

Who has kids who has posted on this subject and who has asked them what is it , or what do they see. I would say the relevant age group is 5-10yrs that is the market I take it they are aimed at.

More input please :)

I agree and I think even above 10 to 13 or so, they would not get it ..maybe only if having it pointed out to them they might see something a bit suggestive, more weird than anything...

this is of course is not me implying that young children in general are not pumped with subliminal stuff, I just think you can only be manipulated by things you react to.. even if on a subconscious level.

[itsallinus]

I should?... why?, where you get this from?... so now I should believe that milk makes people more sexually active?

did you dream this..?... here it on TV?... where did this come from??

I promise you I will take it into account if you can forward my this info?

You could start by looking here: http://www.notmilk.com/

why do you think the elite want to make people more sexually active?.. so the population grows?...

It's not so much making them more sexually active but rather conditioning them into growing up seeing sexual activity to ensure they develop their carnal desires, the ego and reptilian brain.

[itsallinus]

So what bit don't you get about young children seeing images in a different light to adolescent or adults.Its innocent to them until you start making an issue about it !!

So people are saying this is conditioning them , for what exactly?? That when they hit puberty or 11 and 12 they will become sex maniacs. Don't hormones and being inquisitive come into play at that age anyway ?

By making children used to seeing sex on a daily basis if only through seemingly innocent pictures, when they do become sexually active they will feel more comfortable with sexual encounters (including pedophiles) and more easy to corrupt/control, it's like giving children's mind's poison on a drip, slowly corrupting them without anyone noticing..

[thirdwave]

You could start by looking here: http://www.notmilk.com/


So I have to spend 30 mins looking through some random website with loads of links on it?... you know where the info is, cant you at least direct me to the page of the factual information you feel is relevant?.. or is it not there?, copy and paste? I would guess it is talking about stimulating sexual hormones... not creating them.

I take it you are saying that milk makes kids sexually active sooner ...?

Ok well with out getting into a separate row about weather this is true or not... maybe it is maybe it is not..

but if it is then we are left with why if a child is then to become sexualy active sooner because of milk then what is the relevence of these sweet packets?.. see as the child would be getting a woody anyway??

could it be to subliminally trick them into thinking they should have sex with strawberry's?

now we are seeing two issues

Is it healthy to oppress sexually active beings?

if there really is a poison going around making children want to have sex... then is it the right thing to do to sexually oppress them?... will this help them?

and what effect would these sweet packets have on people who can get erections?

The only thing Im getting here from you guys is that your suspicious... but with your suspicions you create strong opinions and conclusions... not a great place to build a house IMO.


It's not so much making them more sexually active but rather conditioning them into growing up seeing sexual activity to ensure they develop their carnal desires, the ego and reptilian brain.

Ok and you don't think that puberty has anything to do with this also?

are you saying they want kids to go through puberty sooner?... if so why do you think they would do that?

[thirdwave]

By making children used to seeing sex on a daily basis if only through seemingly innocent pictures, when they do become sexually active they will feel more comfortable with sexual encounters (including pedophiles) and more easy to corrupt/control, it's like giving children's mind's poison on a drip, slowly corrupting them without anyone noticing..

a pubescent person thinks of sex everyday regardless of what they are shown... there are some monks who have to go through years of practice to get away from this part of nature.

I did not get sexually from seeing books or sweet packets... I got sexual when looking at another girl and having an urge to give her a good seeing to... because of that impulse many big companies use that desire i have to lure me into things they profit from... and so on...

they did not plant it there.. it was already there!

the bible even talks about sexual activity and about how misdirected it can be... and this was 2000 years ago!.. no sweet packets of odd milk back then!!.. it has always gone on!

[itsallinus]

I agree with what your saying thirdwave but I was talking about younger children, 7-10, that are becoming sexually active, they are too young to be dealing with these emotions and impulses. What effects do you think this will have on them later in life? And to add their bit tptb make sure kids get a good sex education, subliminally or not.

[thirdwave]

I agree with what your saying thirdwave but I was talking about younger children, 7-10, that are becoming sexually active, they are too young to be dealing with these emotions and impulses. What effects do you think this will have on them later in life? And to add their bit tptb make sure kids get a good sex education, subliminally or not.

Ok I see, well if there are substances out there that are making children go through puberty earlier than they should (which is still very much up for debate IMO) then that is a slightly different issue than subliminal messages making them think more of sex... as you dont need subliminals to make you think of sex.. they are there to make you think of something useing sex as the thing that pulls you towards it... like a sexy women with red lips drinking from a can of coke... so on... I dont belive cokes aim is to put sex in peoples minds... I think they use the fact that sex is in their minds to pull them towards their product.

you are talking about physical manipulation here... subliminal stuff would not really be relevant to this as the problem would be hormonal manipulation.. and they would be victims regardless of any subliminals.. they would be irrelevant.. the fact that such a young child does have sexual impulses would be an issue beyond those images...

but another point is, when one researches the history of the "elite" we can see the dictators and empires they have created .. over many many years... why all of a sudden are they obsessed with making people sexually active when in the past sex has been so sheltered and oppressed? What has changed their trend?

[take it easy]

i dont like this thread much, its bumpcity and not too keen on the title,
is it worth reading?

[entrangermercenary]

i dont like this thread much, its bumpcity and not too keen on the title,
is it worth reading?

Not for your inquisitive mind , a complete waste of time......bump :p

[entrangermercenary]

By making children used to seeing sex on a daily basis if only through seemingly innocent pictures, when they do become sexually active they will feel more comfortable with sexual encounters (including pedophiles) and more easy to corrupt/control, it's like giving children's mind's poison on a drip, slowly corrupting them without anyone noticing..


So what did your children say about it then?? That needs answering 1st :)

How do you know how they will feel about sexual encounters then?? So lets get this straight then children will feel more comfortable about sexual relations due to looking at a sweety packet with images on it?? When in fact and having asked several children the last few days about this all they think of is the sweets !! Yet the adults c the pictures in a sexual way , strange that eh. Can not children be innocent ffs, go out and play with there m8s, build dens, kick a ball around or throw a ball then eat a packet of sweets without thinking about shagging. :

So if that's the case the whole population is at it with pedophiles when they are younger and are easier to control!! ??

I suppose the BNP are getting the vote in certain areas because when I was growing up we ate black jacks and had golly wogs on the jam jars :eek


You'Ve noticed its seems thanks for the warning :D

[itsallinus]

So what did your children say about it then?? That needs answering 1st :)

My children certainly ask more questions than I did when I was young and I don't think it was just me.

How do you know how they will feel about sexual encounters then?? So lets get this straight then children will feel more comfortable about sexual relations due to looking at a sweety packet with images on it?? When in fact and having asked several children the last few days about this all they think of is the sweets !! Yet the adults c the pictures in a sexual way , strange that eh. Can not children be innocent ffs, go out and play with there m8s, build dens, kick a ball around or throw a ball then eat a packet of sweets without thinking about shagging. :

When we look into a room we only notice some parts and pay attention to much less yet our brains record the information for everything in sight, even the minute detail. Just because you don't notice something, upon reflection or through regression we can look back and see everything or conscious brains never registered.

So if that's the case the whole population is at it with pedophiles when they are younger and are easier to control!! ??

How did you come to that conclusion?

[metacomet]

Well I had football training this morning. I run a under 7s team with some under 6s mixed in. At the end 1 of the parents offers my to boys a packet of maoams. So another little experiment :D I showed the mum and said what do you think of that ?? OMG she replied then showed her the others !! She was genuinly shocked. So I said watch this, asked her boy and said whats that then, he looked at me and said "sweets " then ran off with my 2 to play.
So there again us adults get it but the kids !! NO


Hey congratulations. You've proven (for the second time) that kids can be naive about sex and sexual imagery!

That isn't groundbreaking, though. And it doesn't change the fact that sexual subliminals work on the mind in a way that a child wouldn't be able to grasp anyway.

Come to think of it, I don't think many adults grasp this either.

[ricko]

Hi dont know if you already knowed this, but i will post it :)

there are candys called "maoam"

http://www.maoam.de/

you may ask, why there is something pervert?

well just take a look at this pictures, this says it all!

http://www.sagen.at/texte/gegenwart/images/maoam_sex.jpg

http://jetztimg.sueddeutsche.de/upl/images/user/de/derive/515832.jpg

http://images.google.com/images?hl=de&q=Maoam&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
this is what we give to our children...

this is also pervert:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU9FPflW9Xk

horrible!
and still not forbidden.


rofl!!!!!!!!!11111111!!!!!!!!!!!

But seriosuly! WTF!? :D :eek: