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heterophobia
01-06-2009, 04:31 PM
Im interested in what you guys think about former Atheist Howard Storm's descent into Hell and being rescued by benevolent forces urging him to pray to "God." It could be an act of intense imagination or holographic projection, but it is possible that it really did occur. Im not sure what to believe. It sounds comforting, but it could easily be a misinterpretation. However, his experience made him a more pleasant and optimistic individual to be around, as well as a believer in God.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Storm

http://paranormal.suite101.com/article.cfm/heavenly_predictions_howard_storm

http://www.relfe.com/near_death_experiences.html

"In 1985, Mr. Storm, 38, and his wife, Beverly, were in Paris on the last day of an art tour. Buckled over by searing pain in the middle of his stomach, he was rushed to the hospital. Awaiting emergency surgery, he knew he was dying. He said good-bye to his wife and drifted into darkness.

Standing up, he realized he was between two hospital beds. He looked at Beverly, who was motionless, staring at the floor, sitting in the chair next to his bed. He spoke to her, but she didn't seem to hear. As he bent over to look at the face of the body in the bed, he was horrified to see the resemblance that it had to his own face. But he knew that was impossible because he was standing over the person and looking at him. Off in the distance, outside the room in the hall, he heard voices calling him. They were pleasant voices, male and female, young and old, calling to him in English. "Come out here," they said. "Don't you want to get better?"

He stepped out into the hall, full of anxiety. The area seemed to be light but very hazy, and he couldn't make out any details.
He followed them shuffling along in his bare feet with the memory of pain in his belly, yet feeling very much alive. The fog thickened as they went on, and it became gradually darker. Overwhelmed with hopelessness, he told them he would go no farther and that they were liars. He could feel their breath on him as they shouted and snarled insults. Then they began to push and shove him about, and he began to fight back. A wild frenzy of taunting, screaming and hitting ensued. As he swung and kicked at them, they bit him.

Even though he couldn't see anything in the darkness, he was aware there were dozens or hundreds of them all around and over him and that his attempts to fight back only provoked greater merriment. They began to tear off pieces of his flesh, and he realized that he was being taken apart and eaten alive, methodically, slowly, so that their entertainment would last as long as possible. In that wretched state he lay there in the darkness. Suddenly remembering a prayer from childhood Sunday School class, he said, "Yea though I walk in the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for thou art with me."
To his amazement, the cruel merciless beings were incited to rage by his prayer. They screamed at him, 'There is no God! Nobody can hear you!" But at the same time they were backing away. He realized that saying things about God was actually driving them away, and he became more forceful. They became more rabid, cursing and screaming against God, but in time, they retreated back into the distant gloom beyond his hearing.

Alone, destroyed, and yet painfully alive in this horrible place, he yelled out into the darkness, "Jesus, save me." Far off in the darkness, he saw a pinpoint of light like the faintest star in the sky. The star became brighter and brighter. As it came closer, he realized that he was right in its path, and he might be consumed by its brilliance. This was a living being approximately 8 feet tall and surrounded by an oval of radiance. The brilliant intensity of the light penetrated his body. Ecstasy swept away the agony. Tangible hands and arms gently embraced him and lifted him up. He slowly rose up into the presence of the light, and the torn pieces of his body miraculously healed before his eyes. "

danceswithbunnies
01-06-2009, 06:00 PM
I have read his book, and watched several of his videos.


It leads me to believe that the mind itself is what you step into when you die.

Storm was raised in a fundamentalist christian household. That programming was buried deep in his subconscious...Remember that everything that happens is filtered through YOUR MIND.

Doubtless Storm's mind probably was a mess, and when he died, that level of consciousness was what he stepped into. Then he remembered to call on Jesus to save him, and the Christ answered, ..this is most likely the higher self (the guardian angel Matt 18:10
Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven. )

Spiritual Masters always tell people : "dig your well on your own property, not in your neighbor's property"..

In other words, unfortunately for everyone who has grown up in a christian country, it is better to use the vehicle of christianity for spirituality because society at large has buried it so deeply in the subterranean depths of your consciousness, that this IS what is going to come up in archetypes when you plumb those depths.

Christianity was suppossed to be overt esotericism (the way Buddhism is overt esotericism)
Mark 4:22
For there is nothing hid, which shall not be manifested; neither was any thing kept secret, but that it should come abroad.

The different gospels are written for different levels of consciousness.
In all the synoptic gospels, Jesus spoke in parables .

In the Gnostic gospel of John is the plainest:
John 18:20
Jesus answered him, I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing.


This is the Apostle that leaned on Jesus' chest, the most beloved disciple...the closest to truth.


Orthodox Christianity has taken away the key of knowledge and the keys of the kingdom, and not only do they not go in, but they prevent others from going in, and they compass sea and land to make converts:
Matt 23
13But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in [yourselves], neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in....
15Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

Why?because

the letter killeth the spirit giveth life.

That said, it is very very difficult to find the keys in orthodox christianity...they have done their best to bury the truth and to gain power by falsifying and forging texts..

There is truth there, but you have to know what you are looking for to find it...
Like i said though, these are the archetypes that will come up for us, and we are almost forced to work with them because the society we were raised in is inundated with the christian worldview...you have to use what you are given.