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andy_pandy
30-05-2009, 11:37 PM
please dont say they have $300Trilon ,that's Utter nonsense.

If you add up all the money in the world, it is less that $50T.

1337
30-05-2009, 11:40 PM
i thought it is 500 trillion in gold.

there is money stolen in the last few months , then the world has ever seen.

i dont know i just go by what i hear, but i dont want to perpetuate internet rumors . peacce

whiterain
30-05-2009, 11:46 PM
please dont say they have $300Trilon ,that's Utter nonsense.

If you add up all the money in the world, it is less that $50T.

if your estimate is correct then the 13+? trillion the us has been giving to the banks is a far greater scandal.

i believe the derivative market alone is for at least 500 triliion. not that it means anything as its all worthless. as for the rothschilds, when you control the right to use, create and legislate the financial system, why would you ever bother putting a figure on it?

smoke n mirrors
30-05-2009, 11:47 PM
They are too rich in cash term and poor in every other respect. Lets see where their money gets them when the system falls down round their ears. :)

asha loka
30-05-2009, 11:50 PM
Supposedly the total value of all of the gold ever mined in history is just over $4 trillion. So this seems unlikely.

At around 150,000 tonnes you'd need your own special country to keep it in.

And it would be kind of hard to sell all of it - unless you agreed to take a cheque.

tom bombadil
30-05-2009, 11:52 PM
If I was as rich as the Rothschilds then I could be richer.....I would do a bit of window cleaning on the side.



Nelly. Sorry.

bones
30-05-2009, 11:53 PM
who gives a fook?? im here poor as a poor man can be in the uk , ]

ive got 4 great kids a veg garden (organic) and a fab wife!!!

im pissed as a twat and happy... them rothchildes can go kiss my hairy beanbag! cos money is just pants....


ha ha nite nite all, im off to bed....wine oh hell!!!

flickflack
31-05-2009, 12:09 AM
please dont say they have $300Trilon ,that's Utter nonsense.

If you add up all the money in the world, it is less that $50T.

Isn't the US alone spending more than 50 Trillion dollars a year on Medicaid and Medicare?

andy_pandy
31-05-2009, 12:20 AM
I found what looks like a great answer at Google Answers though it may be a little bit out of date, so I'm going to go ahead and give you the information they list. But first, there are a couple of things that need defining:

Because (in principle) money is anything that can be used in settlement of a debt, there are varying measures of money supply. The narrowest (i.e., most restrictive) measures count only those forms of money available for immediate transactions, while broader measures include money held as a store of value

The most common measures are named M0 (narrowest), M1, M2, and M3. In the United States they are defined by the Federal Reserve as follows:

* M0: The total of all physical currency, plus accounts at the central bank that can be exchanged for physical currency.
* M1: M0 - those portions of M0 held as reserves or vault cash + the amount in demand accounts ("checking" or "current" accounts).
* M2: M1 + most savings accounts, money market accounts, small denomination time deposits and certificate of deposit accounts (CDs) of under $100,000.
* M3: M2 + all other CDs, deposits of eurodollars and repurchase agreements.

The UK also has this measure:

* M4: Cash outside banks (ie. in circulation with the public and non-bank firms) + private-sector retail bank and building society deposits + Private-sector wholesale bank and building society deposits and CDs.
Money supply - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And now the answer:

According to the Federal Reserve, here are the M1, M2, and M3 money
supplies as of January.

M1 - $1.353 trillion
M2 - $6.430 trillion
M3 – $9.467 trillion

Obviously, you’re familiar with these numbers. Unfortunately, the M3
money supply is really impossible to calculate in many countries. The
European Central Bank keeps similar statistics, however. According to
the ECB ( HYPERLINK "http://www.ecb.int/press/pdf/md/md0412.pdf"
http://www.ecb.int/press/pdf/md/md0412.pdf), the M3 money supply for
the European Common Market was 6.529 trillion euros at the end of
December, the latest month for which data is available.

Based on the Feb. 23 spot exchange rate of $1.3211 per euro, the
European M3 money supply is $8.625 trillion in U.S. dollars. European
M2 is quite similar to the American M2. In U.S. dollars, the European
M2 is $7.352 trillion.

This article in the International Herald Tribune ( HYPERLINK
"http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/02/17/bloomberg/sxbriefs.html"
http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/02/17/bloomberg/sxbriefs.html) lists
the Chinese M2 money supply for January at 25.8 trillion yuan, or $3.1
trillion in U.S. currency. I visited the site of the People’s Bank of
China ( HYPERLINK "http://www.pbc.gov.cn/" http://www.pbc.gov.cn/ - a
useful site) and was not able to find the January 2005 number.
However, I checked out the growth of the money supply in 2004 at
HYPERLINK "http://www.pbc.gov.cn/english/diaochatongji/tongjishuju/gofile.asp?file=2004S14.htm"
http://www.pbc.gov.cn/english/diaochatongji/tongjishuju/gofile.asp?file=2004S14.htm
and determined that the newspaper’s figure is probably correct.

According to the Japanese central bank, the M2 money supply plus CD
balances totaled 700.3 trillion yen at the end of January ( HYPERLINK
"http://www.boj.or.jp/en/stat/stat_f.htm"
http://www.boj.or.jp/en/stat/stat_f.htm). Assuming an exchange rate of
104.89 yen per dollar, the Japanese money supply was $6.677 trillion.

Let’s recap:

M2 money supply:

U.S. $6.430 trillion.
EU $7.352 trillion.
China $3.1 trillion.
Japan $6.677 trillion.

While the definitions of the M2 money supply differ from country to
country, they are fairly similar. And that’s going to have to be good
enough, because there is no way to effectively strip out portions of
the numbers provided by the government, at least not without a team of
auditors with extremely high security clearances.

I have no idea about the money supply of Bangladesh or Botswana, but
the economies above represent the four largest economic forces in the
world. We could visit the central banks of a dozen countries to
further refine our estimate, but the four numbers listed above should
be sufficient for our purposes.

According to the CIA Factbook ( HYPERLINK
"http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/xx.html#Econ"
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/xx.html#Econ) the
world’s gross domestic product was estimated at $51.48 trillion in
2003. In 2000, the CIA estimate was 2000 was $43.6 trillion. That
makes for an annualized growth rate of 5.69% from 200, through 2003.
Let’s assume a similar growth rate for 2004, and the estimated world
domestic product is $54.4 trillion.

We're going to determine the percentage of the world domestic product
that comes from the four powerhouses above. We'll use that percentage
to extrapolate the money supply for the world. Money supply tends to
be highly correlated with GDP, but the ratio of money supply to GDP
varies greatly from nation to nation, depending on their growth rates
and the composition of their economies.

However, while differences in growth rates and economic maturity of
developing nations will make future predictions very difficult, what
we’re doing is taking a snapshot of the global economy at a particular
moment in time. It's an inexact estimate, but one we can defend
logically and economically.

So, here is the GDP:

* Japan's GDP as of December 2004 was $530.8 trillion yen, or $5.061
trillion in U.S. currency.
* The U.S. GDP in the December quarter was $10.976 trillion.
* The EU reports GDP by quarter
(http://www.ecb.int/stats/prices/accounts/html/index.en.html#data),
with the latest figure available being the September 2004 quarter. The
trailing 12-month GDP for the EU is 7.470 billion euros, or $9.868
trillion in U.S. currency.
* China's GDP was $1.65 trillion for 2004
(http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-01/25/content_412097.htm)

I collected the Japan and U.S. GDPs from a proprietary database,
though they must be available on the Internet. I just grabbed them
from my database because it was faster.

The U.S., European Union, China, and Japan combine to generate about
$27.555 trillion in gross domestic product, which represents 50.65% of
the world domestic product.

For estimation purposes, we'll assume they also control 50.65% of the
world money supply. The four regions combine for an M2 money supply of
$23.559 trillion. That translates to a world money supply of $46.513
trillion.

V


Other interesting links:

Economists’ estimates of the growth of the Chinese money supply.
HYPERLINK "http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-01/06/content_2421706.htm"
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-01/06/content_2421706.htm

Japan Central Bank page.
HYPERLINK "http://www.boj.or.jp/en/" http://www.boj.or.jp/en/

Financial data for central governments.
http://www.worldbank.org/data/wdi2004/pdfs/Table4_11.pdf

I hope that helps!!
Sources: http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=480224

flickflack
31-05-2009, 12:28 AM
Great find, Pandy.

hawk
31-05-2009, 01:35 AM
Well if I remember my history correctly, when the Depression hit, the citizens of the US were told they had to give up all their gold as it was illegal to have any. (which of course is bullshit.) People can buy gold if they want,but I damn sure wouldn't tell anybody I had any if I did, you know? ;)

darkman
31-05-2009, 01:42 AM
this is nonsense there is no riches in money or gold the only richesness to be find is in happiness with yourself and the peaple around you , no money or natural elemant of metal could surpass that and when you find happines with your self and nature around you , whats money , the rothchild and all the other familys at the top know this and thats why they set up the monetry system to make you feel unhappy
bones please dont get pissed it not good for forsight

and im very rich

newspresenter
31-05-2009, 02:04 AM
please dont say they have $300Trilon ,that's Utter nonsense.

If you add up all the money in the world, it is less that $50T.

If i remember correctly, in the documentary Ring Of Power, the narrator, daughter and grandaughter of 33rd degree freemasons, claims the Rothschild's are worth $500 Trillion, half the planets wealth.

The question should be, how much in physical currency is there compared to the electronic amount?

motleyhoo
31-05-2009, 04:53 AM
According to the Federal Reserve, here are the M1, M2, and M3 money
supplies as of January.

M1 - $1.353 trillion
M2 - $6.430 trillion
M3 – $9.467 trillion



And when has the Federal Reserve ever told the truth about anything? I wouldn't trust these numbers or anything else they say as far as I can spit. IMO, the FR gives new meaning to the term "mafia".

What's really stupid and sad is that 99% of Americans actually believe the FR is part of the govt. When I heard Rachel Maddow joke about Ron Paul supporters because they want to "privatize the federal reserve". Here we have a supposedly trusted news figure who actually does not understand that the Federal Reserve IS a private institution and that Ron Paul wants to put it back under the country's treasury where it belongs. Good grief!!!

And to one of the other posters. We don't spend $50T a year on medicare. The $50T figure is the unfunded liability that medicare and social security will see over the next 20 years or so as the baby boomers, and then their kids, retire. It's still a huge problem tho either way.

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siriusc
31-05-2009, 06:28 AM
Supposedly the total value of all of the gold ever mined in history is just over $4 trillion. So this seems unlikely.

At around 150,000 tonnes you'd need your own special country to keep it in.

And it would be kind of hard to sell all of it - unless you agreed to take a cheque.

Yes, but you have to figure in the off-planet gold too:rolleyes:

boots
31-05-2009, 09:16 AM
The budget for the DOD in America in 2002 was 7 Trillion, 3 Trillion which went missing LOL (black budgets anyone?)

I wouldn't believe anything that the CIA puts out.

GDP doesnt include the profit margins of corporations nor does it include the investment's in financial markets.

So it is quite plausible that the Rothschilds, over many years have accumulated $300 Trillion dollars.


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robdoo
31-05-2009, 02:51 PM
I found what looks like a great answer at Google Answers though it may be a little bit out of date, so I'm going to go ahead and give you the information they list. But first, there are a couple of things that need defining:

Because (in principle) money is anything that can be used in settlement of a debt, there are varying measures of money supply. The narrowest (i.e., most restrictive) measures count only those forms of money available for immediate transactions, while broader measures include money held as a store of value

The most common measures are named M0 (narrowest), M1, M2, and M3. In the United States they are defined by the Federal Reserve as follows:

* M0: The total of all physical currency, plus accounts at the central bank that can be exchanged for physical currency.
* M1: M0 - those portions of M0 held as reserves or vault cash + the amount in demand accounts ("checking" or "current" accounts).
* M2: M1 + most savings accounts, money market accounts, small denomination time deposits and certificate of deposit accounts (CDs) of under $100,000.
* M3: M2 + all other CDs, deposits of eurodollars and repurchase agreements.

The UK also has this measure:

* M4: Cash outside banks (ie. in circulation with the public and non-bank firms) + private-sector retail bank and building society deposits + Private-sector wholesale bank and building society deposits and CDs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_supply

And now the answer:

According to the Federal Reserve, here are the M1, M2, and M3 money
supplies as of January.

M1 - $1.353 trillion
M2 - $6.430 trillion
M3 – $9.467 trillion

Obviously, you’re familiar with these numbers. Unfortunately, the M3
money supply is really impossible to calculate in many countries. The
European Central Bank keeps similar statistics, however. According to
the ECB ( HYPERLINK "http://www.ecb.int/press/pdf/md/md0412.pdf"
http://www.ecb.int/press/pdf/md/md0412.pdf), the M3 money supply for
the European Common Market was 6.529 trillion euros at the end of
December, the latest month for which data is available.

Based on the Feb. 23 spot exchange rate of $1.3211 per euro, the
European M3 money supply is $8.625 trillion in U.S. dollars. European
M2 is quite similar to the American M2. In U.S. dollars, the European
M2 is $7.352 trillion.

This article in the International Herald Tribune ( HYPERLINK
"http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/02/17/bloomberg/sxbriefs.html"
http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/02/17/bloomberg/sxbriefs.html) lists
the Chinese M2 money supply for January at 25.8 trillion yuan, or $3.1
trillion in U.S. currency. I visited the site of the People’s Bank of
China ( HYPERLINK "http://www.pbc.gov.cn/" http://www.pbc.gov.cn/ - a
useful site) and was not able to find the January 2005 number.
However, I checked out the growth of the money supply in 2004 at
HYPERLINK "http://www.pbc.gov.cn/english/diaochatongji/tongjishuju/gofile.asp?file=2004S14.htm"
http://www.pbc.gov.cn/english/diaochatongji/tongjishuju/gofile.asp?file=2004S14.htm
and determined that the newspaper’s figure is probably correct.

According to the Japanese central bank, the M2 money supply plus CD
balances totaled 700.3 trillion yen at the end of January ( HYPERLINK
"http://www.boj.or.jp/en/stat/stat_f.htm"
http://www.boj.or.jp/en/stat/stat_f.htm). Assuming an exchange rate of
104.89 yen per dollar, the Japanese money supply was $6.677 trillion.

Let’s recap:

M2 money supply:

U.S. $6.430 trillion.
EU $7.352 trillion.
China $3.1 trillion.
Japan $6.677 trillion.

While the definitions of the M2 money supply differ from country to
country, they are fairly similar. And that’s going to have to be good
enough, because there is no way to effectively strip out portions of
the numbers provided by the government, at least not without a team of
auditors with extremely high security clearances.

I have no idea about the money supply of Bangladesh or Botswana, but
the economies above represent the four largest economic forces in the
world. We could visit the central banks of a dozen countries to
further refine our estimate, but the four numbers listed above should
be sufficient for our purposes.

According to the CIA Factbook ( HYPERLINK
"http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/xx.html#Econ"
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/xx.html#Econ) the
world’s gross domestic product was estimated at $51.48 trillion in
2003. In 2000, the CIA estimate was 2000 was $43.6 trillion. That
makes for an annualized growth rate of 5.69% from 200, through 2003.
Let’s assume a similar growth rate for 2004, and the estimated world
domestic product is $54.4 trillion.

We're going to determine the percentage of the world domestic product
that comes from the four powerhouses above. We'll use that percentage
to extrapolate the money supply for the world. Money supply tends to
be highly correlated with GDP, but the ratio of money supply to GDP
varies greatly from nation to nation, depending on their growth rates
and the composition of their economies.

However, while differences in growth rates and economic maturity of
developing nations will make future predictions very difficult, what
we’re doing is taking a snapshot of the global economy at a particular
moment in time. It's an inexact estimate, but one we can defend
logically and economically.

So, here is the GDP:

* Japan's GDP as of December 2004 was $530.8 trillion yen, or $5.061
trillion in U.S. currency.
* The U.S. GDP in the December quarter was $10.976 trillion.
* The EU reports GDP by quarter
(http://www.ecb.int/stats/prices/accounts/html/index.en.html#data),
with the latest figure available being the September 2004 quarter. The
trailing 12-month GDP for the EU is 7.470 billion euros, or $9.868
trillion in U.S. currency.
* China's GDP was $1.65 trillion for 2004
(http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-01/25/content_412097.htm)

I collected the Japan and U.S. GDPs from a proprietary database,
though they must be available on the Internet. I just grabbed them
from my database because it was faster.

The U.S., European Union, China, and Japan combine to generate about
$27.555 trillion in gross domestic product, which represents 50.65% of
the world domestic product.

For estimation purposes, we'll assume they also control 50.65% of the
world money supply. The four regions combine for an M2 money supply of
$23.559 trillion. That translates to a world money supply of $46.513
trillion.

V


Other interesting links:

Economists’ estimates of the growth of the Chinese money supply.
HYPERLINK "http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-01/06/content_2421706.htm"
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-01/06/content_2421706.htm

Japan Central Bank page.
HYPERLINK "http://www.boj.or.jp/en/" http://www.boj.or.jp/en/

Financial data for central governments.
http://www.worldbank.org/data/wdi2004/pdfs/Table4_11.pdf

I hope that helps!!
Sources: http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=480224


If I am not mistaken, the figures that you have posted from these reputable sources are all monies currently held within banking institutions around the world. Statistics from central, commercial and trade banks have been added up to give a grand total of 50 Trillion US dollars. This does not take into account all the assets around the world, e.g. Companies and stocks there-in, property, prime real estate, art works, antiques, interests, valuables (jewellery, precious metals and stones), oil, gas and other energy rights, etc etc

If the worlds financial markets, and assets were to be liquidated then I’m sure the overall worth of these assets would far exceed 1000trillion US dollars

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aZ1kcJ7y3LDM

Above is a recent article posted on Bloomberg.com and reports the findings of an Asian development bank report.

It states that: "The value of global financial assets including stocks, bonds and currencies probably fell by more than $50 trillion in 2008, equivalent to a year of world gross domestic product, according to an Asian Development Bank report"

If the value of world assets have fallen by $50trillion in one year, and world assets have shrunk by approximately 3-5% in this recession then it would be a fairly good indicator that this report values world assets (including stocks bond and currencies) at approximately $1000trillion

Obviously many valuables and personal assets would not be included and total assets of every, person, company, organisation, trust, charity, etc on earth if liquefied would dwarth the $1000trillion figure reported by the Asian development bank report from the Bloomberg article posted above.

The report that the original poster posted is the currency in circulation, currency that the banks print on a supply and demand policy.
It would be like a man sitting in a house that he owned and people determining that he was only worth the amount of cash in his wallet, without taking into account the value of his property...

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In regards to the Rothschild Family, a recent(2007) book entitled "The Rothschild Dynasty" by a Dr john Coleman asserted that the wealth of the Rothschild family (if all assets were liquidated) would reach $300 trillion. I have not read the book entirely but it is obvious that his final findings were based on speculation as there are not many who know the full extent to the Rothschild assets, it is one of the most closely guarded secrets.
They have used many different means to hide their extreme wealth, they have employed agents to work on their behalf, they distribute the wealth through their very large family (the patriarch(Amschel) had 10 children, so you can imagine how extensive their family tree now is, and how many different names they now have), they have acquired a huge array of antique's, artworks, real estate, precious metals, stones, and more recently an extensive portfolio of rights to fossil fuels and future energy sources.

I think it would be inappropriate for any one to put a figure on the Rothschild family wealth without truly knowing how the family were organised and what their true goals were at the time of their founding as a banking family.

A clue to the estimated wealth of the dynasty, was given by economists of the 1850's, who deducted that the Rothschild family should have an estimated net worth of £6billion. If that amount (£6billion) had never been added to, then their total net worth today would be hundreds of billions if not trillions of pounds, due to inflation alone!

Its all irrelevant though as in 1912 the Rothschild family and other wealthy bankers (predominantly from a German Jewish background) were given the right of issuance by US politicians/government, this allowed them to create the federal reserve and issue paper money as they saw fit. The point being is that they have the ability to print as much money as they deem necessary to allow the markets of the world to trade freely and ultimately have a huge amount of influence over the whole worlds financial markets.