Israel Is Pushing For War With Iran...

[december]

Israel's ambassador to the United States, Sallai Meridor, said Wednesday that Israel and the free world are under attack by Iran, with a combination of fanaticism, terrorism and nuclear capability posing the most serious threat since the 1930s.

"We must prevent this nightmare," Meridor said at the "Night to Honor Israel" event, part of the second annual Christians United for Israel summit in Washington, D.C. "The world must act and act now."

Meridor said Israel would take any steps necessary to ensure that Iran does not develop a nuclear bomb. "All options are on the table, and no matter what, they will not be able to get a nuclear weapon," he said.

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"It's 1938 all over again," said Hagee. "Iran is Germany, Ahmadinejad is Hitler and he is talking about killing the Jews. The only way to prevent a nuclear war is to make certain it never starts."

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THIS IS JUST CRAZY!!!!

[Anders Lindman]

I think that they are threatened by the Islamic banking Sharia principle: "In particular, Islamic law prohibits usury, the collection and payment of interest, also commonly called riba in Islamic discourse."

From: Islamic banking - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Anders Lindman]

I think that they are threatened by the Islamic banking Sharia principle: "In particular, Islamic law prohibits usury, the collection and payment of interest, also commonly called riba in Islamic discourse."

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_banking

My own view is that I don't know which is better, to have an interest-charging economy, or an interest-free economy. I think both alternatives should be examined and compared in great detail to see which one is best. Wasn't Jesus Christ against charging interest?

[john white]

My own view is that I don't know which is better, to have an interest-charging economy, or an interest-free economy. I think both alternatives should be examined and compared in great detail to see which one is best. Wasn't Jesus Christ against charging interest?

Yes, he certainly was (the stories say). That prohibition lasted 1,500 years until the seduction of the ability of the bankers to finance the "conqest" of the "new world" with imaginary credit became too much for the then vatican administration to resist: that was the start of vatican banking, that led inexorably to the rise of Mammon in the world today

[Anders Lindman]

Yes, he certainly was (the stories say). That prohibition lasted 1,500 years until the seduction of the ability of the bankers to finance the "conqest" of the "new world" with imaginary credit became too much for the then vatican administration to resist: that was the start of vatican banking, that led inexorably to the rise of Mammon in the world today

I imagine that without charging interest, bankers would lose much of their power. Hmm... Maybe Jesus was on to something.

[synergy777]

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/july2007/240707_b_Syria.htm

Syria to Employ Hezbollah Strategy

Kurt Nimmo
Tuesday July 24, 2007

Back in October, 2005, the Mossad’s favorite propaganda source, DEBKAfile, fretted over the sale of advanced Russian Iskander SS-26 missiles to Syria. According to DEBKAfile, Putin reneged on a deal not to sell the hardware to Syria, a lamentable situation for the Israelis as NATO and the United States “have nothing in their missile arsenal to match its unique attributes,” in other words, Israel is helpless to stop the Iskander if Syria decided to use it. So impressive is the missile “that in 2004, the Americans sought to include it in various treaties signed with Russia for precluding the manufacture and sale of certain weapons. Moscow balked. A Western missile expert says: ‘Even a small quantity of these missiles is capable of radically changing the balance of strength in local conflicts.’ It is a strategic weapon for countries with a small area like Syria.”

Strategic, indeed. Fast-forward to July, 2007, and witness Israel bemoaning the Iskander once again. “Syria sees the next war with Israel as involving missile attacks on civilian infrastructure and front-line guerilla warfare, an anonymous senior official in the Syrian Ministry of Defense told Defense News Weekly, in an interview appearing Monday. Syria prefers to avoid a direct, ‘classic’ confrontation with Israel, he said. Instead, the next war will involve Katyusha rocket and ballistic missiles that will target strategic points in Israel, especially civilian infrastructure,” reports Arutz Sheva. “According to Arab affairs expert Dr. Guy Bechor, the Syrian assessment is a result of the Second Lebanon War. After that war the Syrians understood that they do not need a large ground force to defeat Israel, but rather missiles aimed at dense Israeli population centers. For the past two years the Syrians have been engaged in massive acquisitions from Russia, after an $11 billion debt was partially forgiven by Russia in 2005, and partially covered by Iran…. The London-based daily Al-Sharq al-Awsat recently reported that Syria has deployed Chinese C-802 cruise missiles, which it acquired from Iran. In addition, Russia has expressed its willingness to sell the Syrians its Iskander missile, which has a range of 280 kilometers, more than enough to strike at any destination in Israel. The missile features an optical GPS navigational system that allows operators to guide it to their targets.”

Call it the Hezbollah Strategy. It makes certain sense Syria, with its puny military—when stacked up against Israel, armed to the teeth by the United States—and its out-moded Russian tanks and planes, would eventually adopt Hezbollah’s winning strategy, as there is simply no way it can go up against Israel on the battlefield. Naturally, this new development pokes a big hole in the Likudnik and neocon agenda to take out all of Israel’s enemies in turn. Not even the United States, with its faltering Patriot missiles, can protect Israel against the mighty Iskander, also known as the “Stone.”

Recall, after Israel invaded Lebanon last summer, the neocons demanded Israel attack Syria. “George W. Bush and his neoconservative advisers saw the conflict between Israel and Hezbollah as an opportunity to expand the conflict into Syria and possibly achieve a long-sought ‘regime change’ in Damascus, but Israel’s leadership balked at the scheme, according to Israeli sources,” Robert Parry wrote at the time for Consortium News. “One Israeli source said Bush’s interest in spreading the war to Syria was considered ‘nuts’ by some senior Israeli officials, although Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has generally shared Bush’s hard-line strategy against Islamic militants.”

Nuts, indeed, as Israel was likely not fond of the prospect of Syrian missiles raining down on Tel Aviv, a feat Hezbollah was not able to accomplish with its short-range and highly inaccurate rockets.

“After rebuffing Bush’s suggestion about attacking Syria, the Israeli government settled on a strategy of mounting a major assault in southern Lebanon aimed at rooting out Hezbollah guerrillas who have been firing Katyusha rockets into northern Israel.” As we know, this strategy turned out to be a dismal failure, although Lebanese civilians paid a high price for Hezbollah’s reluctance to surrender.

“According to the neocon strategy, ‘regime change’ in Syria and Iran, in turn, would undermine Hezbollah, the Shiite militia that controls much of southern Lebanon, and would strengthen Israel’s hand in dictating peace terms to the Palestinians,” writes Parry.

Of course, this is nonsense, as the Israelis have no desire to enter into “peace terms” with the Palestinians, dictated or otherwise. Moreover, the neocons are not particularly concerned with undermining Hezbollah per se, as Hezbollah controls, or rather protects, only part of Lebanon. In fact, the neocons, often more Zionist than the fanatical Likudnik Jabotinskyites in Israel, want to sweep the entire board and render all Arab and Muslims nations in the region into politically ineffectual vassal states, unable to contest Israel’s hegemony and helpless to resist Greater Israel, from the Nile to the Euphrates, as Rabbi Fischmann, member of the Jewish Agency for Palestine, declared in his testimony to the U.N. Special Committee of Enquiry in July of 1947.

Now that Syria has declared the Hezbollah Strategy, all of this will be much more difficult for the Likudniks and the neocons. It is, as well, reassuring to note that the promise made to Israeli officials by former U.S. Undersecretary of State John Bolton will be far more difficult to deliver, i.e., Bolton and the neocons had little doubt America would attack Iraq, and that it would be necessary to deal with Syria, Iran and North Korea afterwards, although Iraq was regrettably invaded, occupied, and pitched into massive ruination and incalculable human suffering. Hopefully, Syria and Iran will now be spared a likewise fate.


russia/china are the global major players now, its them v uk/usa.

[Anders Lindman]

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/july2007/240707_b_Syria.htm

Syria to Employ Hezbollah Strategy

russia/china are the global major players now, its them v uk/usa.

Russia and China are also interest charging economies. I think the interest-charging elite are threatened by Syria and other Arabic countries, not because of weapons, but because of the Sharia law.

[synergy777]

sharia law is open to intepretation and is not the main tenet of islam, its more oral law. the ban on usury is one of the reasons why the elite hate islam, and also as its the correction to vatican christianity. but people only see extreme isalm, they don't see real islam. a ban on interest would free many many people, the elite completely detest islam due to its equality/ethics.

i'm not even muslim, but i don't fall for the hype from the good christians bush and co.

[Anders Lindman]

sharia law is open to intepretation and is not the main tenet of islam

As I understand it, Islamic banking strictly follow the Sharia law, not as an interpretation, but as an actual law against charging interest.

Islamic banking - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[synergy777]

sharia law is based on lesson etc given by mohammed/imams. somethings are good, some bad. i think it was best used in those days, in a time of political upheval etc. in this day and age, i think liberal democractic laws would be the best option, with people free to choose their religion and laws etc.

see the interpretation of sharia law is dependant upon the imam's perception.

[Anders Lindman]

sharia law is based on lesson etc given by mohammed/imams. somethings are good, some bad. i think it was best used in those days, in a time of political upheval etc. in this day and age, i think liberal democractic laws would be the best option, with people free to choose their religion and laws etc.

see the interpretation of sharia law is dependant upon the imam's perception.

When it comes to Islamic banking, the use of the Shariah is a strict business law, not some arbitrary interpretation i read:

"Islamic banking refers to a system of banking or banking activity that is consistent with Islamic law (Shariah) principles and guided by Islamic economics. In particular, Islamic law prohibits usury, the collection and payment of interest, also commonly called riba in Islamic discourse."

From: Islamic banking - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[synergy777]

i'm not disputing usury, but sharia law a whole body of legislation needs discernment. some laws are tribal, especially when it comes to marriage, criminal cases etc. i personally love the idea of the ban on usury, its ethical. can you imagine the number of converts islam would get, interest free loans, mortages, people would flock, lol

[Anders Lindman]

i'm not disputing usury, but sharia law a whole body of legislation needs discernment. some laws are tribal, especially when it comes to marriage, criminal cases etc. i personally love the idea of the ban on usury, its ethical. can you imagine the number of converts islam would get, interest free loans, mortages, people would flock, lol

Yeah, the sharia law in general probably covers lots of things. I would like to extract the business part and show it to the Christian community who would say: "Wow, this is exactly what Jesus Christ promoted" :D

Charging interest could be good for the overall economy, but maybe not in the long run. I would like to see some economic experts really investigating and comparing interest-free economy and economy based on charging interest.

[synergy777]

yashuah/jesus is known as issa in teh koran, jesus is in the koran, his whole life, all the prophets from abraham, moses, etc are in the koran.yashuah said fatehr/the creator, the arabic for creator is guess what, al = the, lah = creator, allah = creator, a title not a name. this is the level of ingorance teh media spews out on purpose. like burg al arab, the tower of/the arabia, al is prefix. the problem with asians, is that we are rather hot headed/quick temper, hence fight, when sometimes we should just calm down and explain. but this trait is given to us, as in the bible, sons of ismael. we just are emotional, our languages, actions, etc, vibrant.

ismael was the first son of abraham, it said we would be wild, a multitude of nations (asia/africa/south europe/americas), and everyones hand will be against us, whose public enemy number one, us asians. whoopee, its our turn, lol

[synergy777]

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/economics/article2139608.ece

Chancellor urges clear path for foreign investors
Alistair Darling says the UK must welcome globalisation, not "retreat behind national borders"

on the power shift, whats driving it, the usage of dollar reseves before the dollar tanks, cashing in on the value.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=6401
by Richard C. Cook

Global Research, July 23, 2007

U.S. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson: Coming Financial Crash Shows Need for Immediate Monetary Reform

To accomplish this, the government can and should make direct cash allocations to individuals without recourse to taxation or borrowing. This infusion of purchasing power is needed because income from jobs cannot keep up with total production when a large portion of industrial earnings is withheld for future innovation, as must be done in today’s technology-rich environment.

For a business entity to remain profitable, it must save and reinvest. These savings are recovered through prices that exceed purchasing power distributed through wages, salaries, and dividends. This leaves a “gap” which today is filled by bank-credit. But it’s the wrong way to run an economy. The gap, which is a normal feature of industrial production, should instead be filled by free government-distributed credit through what has been called a National Dividend.

A National Dividend should not be tied to employment. It should be obvious that as fewer workers are needed to produce more and more goods and services, the benefits of rising productivity can only be realized if the government provides purchasing power to individuals and families whether they are working at the moment or not. Such allocations could be made without inflationary pressures as long as they did not exceed the economy’s producing potential.

Similarly, the system of public finance whereby the banking system creates credit out of nothing in order to lend money back to the government has never made sense. As Thomas Edison and others in U.S. history have pointed out, the government can just as well create and spend interest-free money directly into circulation as was done successfully with the Greenbacks during the nineteenth century.

A comprehensive system of reform measures suitable to today’s conditions would include 1) cancellation of substantial portions of existing debt; 2) direct issuance by the government of a guaranteed basic income/National Dividend that would average at least $12,500 per person per year; 3) direct spending by government on infrastructure improvements; 4) a new system of low-cost credit for consumers and small businesses; 5) abolishment of the Federal Reserve as a bank of issue with its retention only as a financial transaction clearinghouse; and 6) elimination from the capital markets of all bank lending for financial speculation through return to the “real bills” doctrine of lending.

[Anders Lindman]

this is the level of ingorance teh media spews out on purpose.

The western media seems to use Muslims as a potential threat. I'm sure that in the higher business world, Muslims and Christians, Jews, Hindus and Buddhists are good business friends.

[Anders Lindman]

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=6401
by Richard C. Cook

"For a business entity to remain profitable, it must save and reinvest. These savings are recovered through prices that exceed purchasing power distributed through wages, salaries, and dividends. This leaves a “gap” which today is filled by bank-credit."

If the bank-credit can be held at a constant level, maybe with some ups and downs but over time a constant gap, then that would maybe not be a problem, and maybe even a good thing.

But if the gap inevitably increases all the time, then surely that cannot be good.

[Anders Lindman]

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=6401
by Richard C. Cook

Global Research, July 23, 2007

"Similarly, the system of public finance whereby the banking system creates credit out of nothing in order to lend money back to the government has never made sense. As Thomas Edison and others in U.S. history have pointed out, the government can just as well create and spend interest-free money directly into circulation as was done successfully with the Greenbacks during the nineteenth century."


See! An interest-free economy is perhaps possible after all. At least interest-free money creation.

[synergy777]

see the solutions are here, our minds can create many solutions. most of the problems are from enthropic systems, bad design, why? to consolidate wealth, to support an agenda/system. rhis why teh knee jerk reaction, of ban money, anarchy etc is not the correct/best solution, its merely a an improvement/upgrade thats needed.

as for the elite, they only have one religion, thats satanism/lucifer, they just use the religions as marketing/pr. they use the cover of religion to give them justification/credibility/good image, then they do evil things, hence no one judges, and the the ones who see through it, move away from religion, after seeing their actions. not realising that its not religion that motivated their actions, but that they were merley using religion as a cover. so they win, people lose the connection/hope, they discredit religion, and further their agenda, a very good strategy. using religions, is no different to bush using democracy as a reason.

also have you noticed that the indian religions of hinduism/buddhism/sikhism, are never involved, its always the abrahamic religions. three sections of the same religion, manipulated against eachother.

[synergy777]

http://www.harunyahya.com/books/faith/did_not_die/jesus_did_not_die_02.php

Those who do not believe are the friends and protectors of one another. If you do not act in this way, there will be turmoil in the land and great corruption. (Qur'an, 8:73) one love.

Those who follow the Messenger, the Ummi, whom they find written down with them in the Torah and the Gospel, commanding them to do right and forbidding them to do wrong, making good things lawful for them and bad things forbidden for them relieving them of their heavy loads and the chains that were around them. Those who believe in him, honor and help him, and follow the Light that has been sent down with him, they are the ones who are successful. (Qur’an, 7:157)

Hold fast to the rope of God all together, and do not separate. Remember God's blessing to you when you were enemies and He joined your hearts together so that you became brothers by His blessing. You were on the very brink of a pit of the Fire, and He rescued you from it. In this way, God makes His signs clear to you so that, hopefully, you will be guided. (Qur'an, 3:103

Therefore, it is a matter of the greatest importance that all believers and those who wish to be protected from the Antichrist's evil should fully support Jesus (pbuh) and strive to prepare the best possible environment before he actually returns.

On the one hand, Muslims must uncover the Antichrist's wickedness and deceptions and wage an intellectual struggle against those elements that comprise the ideological foundations of the Antichrist's system. On the other hand, they must prepare the groundwork for the great intellectual struggle that Jesus (pbuh) will wage after his return, and must prepare themselves to support him. The information provided in the Qur'an and the developments described in the (hadith) indicate that one of history's most important periods is approaching.

((hadith, like sharia, needs educated discernment, i don't know much about all the hadiths, all i know is that the ones that support the subjugation of women are not from the creator, they are tribal/social law falsely attributed to religion, to support the lusts/desires of man.))

Those who will enjoy the honor of living at such a historic time should feel great excitement at this prospect and should be aware of the scale of their responsibility. One of the first things that such people have to do is to prepare themselves and those around them for Jesus' (pbuh) return


not the usual media coverage hey, lol the muslim extremists are not real muslims, intellectual struggle/jihad. the osama/wahabbi are merely the opposame to zionist/british israeli/vatican, at the end of the day, they all eat from the same table. pikes letter to mazzini, even though the authorities have labelled it a fake, points this out, ww3, is about moslem/zionism/christianity, mutually destroying eachother. which looks very possible.

[december]

Poll: 71% of Israelis want U.S. to strike Iran if talks fail


Fully 71 percent of Israelis believe that the United States should launch a military attack on Iran if diplomatic efforts fail to halt Tehran's nuclear program, according to a new poll.

The survey, commissioned by Bar-Ilan University's BESA Center and the Anti-Defamation League, found that 59 percent of Israelis still believe the war in Iraq was justified, while 36 percent take the opposite view.

Some 65 percent believe that the United States is a loyal ally of Israel, with only 11 percent saying the opposite. A slightly higher proportion, 73 percent, described U.S. President George W. Bush as friendly. Forty-eight percent attributed U.S. support for Israel to strategic considerations, while 30 percent credited American Jewry and 17 percent cited shared values and a shared democratic tradition.

Regarding America's importance to Israel, there was near consensus: 91 percent said that close relations with the U.S. are vital to Israel's security. Some 51 percent of respondents predicted that the U.S. will ultimately impose an agreement on Israel and the Palestinians, while 43 percent disagreed.

In addition, 52 percent of respondents described American Jewish support of Israel as "sufficient," while 33 percent did not. About half of all Israelis believe that American Jewry is in danger of disappearing due to assimilation, the poll found.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/860903.html

[synergy777]

i thinks its funny, the fake christians/west, are goyim slaves to the zionists who killed yashuah, its so funny, you couldn't even make it up. tribe of dan, gog/magog, anglo elite and uk/usa.

[december]

No More Wars for Israel Conference: October 12-14 2007. Orange County, California.

http://pcapostate.blogspot.com/2007/08/no-more-wars-for-israel-conference.html

[december]

Iran says ready to strike back if attacked by Israel

19/ 09/ 2007

TEHRAN, September 19 (RIA Novosti) - Iran has drawn up plans for retaliation in the event of an attack from Israel, the deputy commander of the Iranian Air Force was reported by Fars news agency as saying on Wednesday.

Gen. Mohammad Alavi said Iran has missiles that can reach Israeli territory, while Israel is not in a position to pose a serious threat to Iran.

He also dismissed reports in Western media suggesting that pinpoint air strikes could be delivered against Iran, neutralizing the country's Air Force with surprise attacks.

"We are ready to stand up to any attack and will not allow enemy bombers to carry out such strikes," Alavi said.

He also said that Iran's radars are monitoring activities near its borders around the clock, and that the country has the capability to counter cruise missiles.

Iran has successfully tested Shahab-2 and Shahab-3 long-range ballistic missiles, as well as Scud-B, Fateh-110 and other missiles.

The country is believed to have one of the largest ballistic missile forces in the developing world, and is reportedly running an ambitious missile development program. Many countries also suspect it of developing nuclear weapons through its uranium enrichment program.

http://en.rian.ru/world/20070919/79708810.html

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