Argentinian Girl Commits Suicide With Train (CCTV)

[real6]

LiveLeak.com - Argentinian Girl Commits Suicide With Train (CCTV)

Moderator note: This video is very shocking. Do not click the link if you are easily disturbed.

[cafetimes1991]

God, that was depressing. :(

[cafetimes1991]

Really put me off that add above the video: "Meet Sexy Women in your Area!".

[merlincove]

God, that was depressing. :(

What can you expect from the headline, Argentinian Girl Commits Suicide With Train (CCTV)?

Not watched the clip btw, just wondered why people would want to watch it?

[cafetimes1991]

What can you expect from the headline, Argentinian Girl Commits Suicide With Train (CCTV)?

Not watched the clip btw, just wondered why people would want to watch it?

In case anyone wanted confirmation? To put me off suicide.

[truthinlove]

i guess the level of desensitization isn't quite there yet?

i didn't click the link. i'm just disgusted at this thread...

what is this horrifying shit we are posting?

[entrangermercenary]

Strange that people would want to watch such a thing. Hey what ever gets you going tho !!

[deem]

The train didnt even stop, hopfully she was killed instantly by the impact and wasnt concious under the wheels. Disturbing

[and justice for all]

i guess the level of desensitization isn't quite there yet?

i didn't click the link. i'm just disgusted at this thread...

what is this horrifying shit we are posting?

I agree

[steevo]

I dont need to see it so I wont click on the link.

[kappy0405]

disgusting.. her hands go up a split second before the impact as if she regretted it.. =(

seriously, why was this posted? It's not much better than those snuff videos of people beheading people.

[comma berenices]

I can't watch it,i can't bear to see an ant killed let alone a young girl.

[veritasvoice]

Some things I don't EVER need to see to understand that they are horrifying, and it makes me wonder why all of a sudden we are seeing vids like this.

I realised the other day with the US conservative talk show host lining up to get waterboarded...we have acts of torture on YouTube now.

Can anyone else see some idiot doing it to their mates for a bet/prank/dare, to stick up on YT to get rated?

I've even seen people arguing that they should do this to their friends or to members of the public (with a waiver!) in order to "prove" to them that it really is torture...and they don't seem to realise why I am horrified when I point out "hold on...YOU know its torture, and you're willing to torture someone to prove your point?"

[skyfish]

Some things I don't EVER need to see to understand that they are horrifying, and it makes me wonder why all of a sudden we are seeing vids like this.

I realised the other day with the US conservative talk show host lining up to get waterboarded...we have acts of torture on YouTube now.

Can anyone else see some idiot doing it to their mates for a bet/prank/dare, to stick up on YT to get rated?

I've even seen people arguing that they should do this to their friends or to members of the public (with a waiver!) in order to "prove" to them that it really is torture...and they don't seem to realise why I am horrified when I point out "hold on...YOU know its torture, and you're willing to torture someone to prove your point?"

Why don't we just face the truth eh guys? We haven't changed since the days we used to take our family for a day out at the ampitheatre to watch slaves get pulled apart by lions. Or the more recent days when we'd gather at the gallows for hot tea 'n' hangings.

Human race = sick

[nayan]

Please, this tread should be removed immediatly. I did click on the link and that 'sexy women' advert put me off, i never watched it, just took it off. Why the hell do people want to watch it anyways?

Why don't we just face the truth eh guys? We haven't changed since the days we used to take our family for a day out at the ampitheatre to watch slaves get pulled apart by lions. Or the more recent days when we'd gather at the gallows for hot tea 'n' hangings.

Human race = sick

Y'know, it's just the way some people have been bought up. I can't say 'Human race = sick' because I know we're not all 'sick'. I've just finished school, in lessons students talking like 'hey, there is a fight today, 3:15, you coming?'. I can't believe how people can watch these things, how they are entertained by it.

[rydeon]

Please, this tread should be removed immediatly. I did click on the link and that 'sexy women' advert put me off, i never watched it, just took it off. Why the hell do people want to watch it anyways?



Y'know, it's just the way some people have been bought up. I can't say 'Human race = sick' because I know we're not all 'sick'. I've just finished school, in lessons students talking like 'hey, there is a fight today, 3:15, you coming?'. I can't believe how people can watch these things, how they are entertained by it.

You can all wrap yourselves in cotton wool if you want to, I looked and it just shows that in the real world, people do these things to themselves.

People do bad things all the time in the real world, don't be afraid of it or hide away. Experience it and be brave out there. Not like a frightened rabbit or mouse.

[monkfish]

Why would anyone want to watch this?
How was cctv footage released of this?
Its a sick world we are living in.

[real6]

Please, this tread should be removed immediatly. I did click on the link and that 'sexy women' advert put me off, i never watched it, just took it off. Why the hell do people want to watch it anyways?



Y'know, it's just the way some people have been bought up. I can't say 'Human race = sick' because I know we're not all 'sick'. I've just finished school, in lessons students talking like 'hey, there is a fight today, 3:15, you coming?'. I can't believe how people can watch these things, how they are entertained by it.




You can all wrap yourselves in cotton wool if you want to, I looked and it just shows that in the real world, people do these things to themselves.

People do bad things all the time in the real world, don't be afraid of it or hide away. Experience it and be brave out there. Not like a frightened rabbit or mouse.

You said it right. Although this is very sad, people need to wake up and stop living in this fake reality like this shit never happens.

If you dont like it, then dont watch it. It's also funny how everyone on here seems like they are a saint but i bet you more than 50% of you on here do some crazy shit no one knows about weather you watch snuff films, underage sex or just into blood and guts.

But Rydeon did say it best...

On to more pressing matters...

[dude111]

Its a sick world we are living in.Your just realizing this?

Very sad indeed....... I wonder what could have been so wrong in her life!

[darketernal]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=de5_1243442739

Moderator note: This video is very shocking. Do not click the link if you are easily disturbed.

Real6, I've added a note to your link.

[serenevasaline]

Poor girl =(. Let's hope she's happy where ever she is now

[nayan]

You can all wrap yourselves in cotton wool if you want to, I looked and it just shows that in the real world, people do these things to themselves.

People do bad things all the time in the real world, don't be afraid of it or hide away. Experience it and be brave out there. Not like a frightened rabbit or mouse.

I know people do bad things all the time in the real world, believe me. I'm not frightened, I just don't see the need to watch it, it's seems disrespectful.

[skunksmash]

Why would anyone want to watch this?
How was cctv footage released of this?
Its a sick world we are living in.

thank you...... they release this stuff for the chaos factor it unleashes, it doesn't just leak....

just like all those police brutality vids from department controlled CCTV, those vids are under heavy lock & key....

they hand them out like sweets to further create the ''us & them'' mentality :mad:



:(SK

[nayan]

You said it right. Although this is very sad, people need to wake up and stop living in this fake reality like this shit never happens.

If you dont like it, then dont watch it. It's also funny how everyone on here seems like they are a saint but i bet you more than 50% of you on here do some crazy shit no one knows about weather you watch snuff films, underage sex or just into blood and guts.

But Rydeon did say it best...

On to more pressing matters...

When Rydeon says 'experience it', experience means through real life, not through the interent watching some video.

Maybe 50% of people probably do, but this is serious shit we're talking here, a girl commiting suicide and worst, having someone posting a video of it.

[bulletproofheart]

Selfish cow,image how terrified the driver was.Why not stay home and take an overdose if you want to leave Prison Earth,its what I did (or tried)

[3stepsahead]

Why would anyone want to watch this?
How was cctv footage released of this?
Its a sick world we are living in.

each to his own´?
i think if someone wants to see what lies behind a persons (animals) death
they should do so. when someone gets certain un-normal feelings about it such as joy i could say its about time to stop pursuing these events.

i do think the final moments are very informational to a person that has heart.
and seeing any of such "death of a human" one or two times to actually learn something is quite worth it.

it made me horrified of death kind of and it makes me care for myself and others aswell knowing that those final momens are indeed something noone would enjoy. (oh exept you know, our governments maybe)

i didnt see this video and i wont, i seen stuff before and its quite enough, i saw a cat catch a bird yesterday and yeah i felt bad for the birdy. . . .


perhaps you need more coffe to read through gibberish, if not then i am joyful.
:)

[monkfish]

You said it right. Although this is very sad, people need to wake up and stop living in this fake reality like this shit never happens.

If you dont like it, then dont watch it. It's also funny how everyone on here seems like they are a saint but i bet you more than 50% of you on here do some crazy shit no one knows about weather you watch snuff films, underage sex or just into blood and guts.

But Rydeon did say it best...

On to more pressing matters...

Its not about being a saint is it? We all know this happens..do we need people to film it for us just to be certain? Would you watch it if this girl was a member of your family?
Yeah each to there own,but that girls family have to live with this and also live with the fact that a video of there daughters suicide is being gloryfied on youtube and is being passed around phone to phone.

[helloperator]

I watched it.

If the thread title had have been:

Dogs (or any animal) mutilated on CCTV

I wouldn't have watched it. I can't handle that. But I am ok with watching something like this.

Is there something wrong with me?

[romas]

I think taking joy or entertainment of something like this shows the mental level. There's no wonder violence would be more popular among the young. See origins of aggression and all the stages of human growth.

When you say "this is real world", well yes and no, this not all there is, but are we supposed to see all and know all the shit and all the joy that's happening every minute? If seeing warm blooded mammals suffering triggers disgust in your brain, why keep it up?

[3stepsahead]

Its not about being a saint is it? We all know this happens..do we need people to film it for us just to be certain? Would you watch it if this girl was a member of your family?
Yeah each to there own,but that girls family have to live with this and also live with the fact that a video of there daughters suicide is being gloryfied on youtube and is being passed around phone to phone.

if it was my family member, i do not know but i might have wanted to see at least once what happened. mostly for the reasons i wrote about it being information that quite well can help us aviod beeing so recklessly in evryday life, but thats just me i cant say what other people would gain from it, and i know MANY people might rather just watch it for their own inner bates enjoyment and such.

what you need to consider is there is no difference between death of a human versus any other beings.

i agree that the video shouldve not been released to the open public and its terrible for the close family. and that is why i am not going to see it.

(i was writing a lot more but i dont really want to go to much off topic so itll end here)

[big_al]

jees...some of you need to get a life: theres shit loads of stuff out there 100 times worse than that. If you cant handle a black and white grainy video that shows next to nothing how can you come here and demand 'truth'?

[brainfreeze]

jees...some of you need to get a life: theres shit loads of stuff out there 100 times worse than that. If you cant handle a black and white grainy video that shows next to nothing how can you come here and demand 'truth'?

Regarding the toruture pics, theBF and I were discussing last night how it is that peeps in the military can perform such horrendous acts and we came to the conclusion that it's down to catching the lads at an impressionable age and desensitisation.

A few of the desensitised have popped up on this thread. I feel sorry for them for believing the rest of us who can't/don't want to watch that video should get a life.

I'm sorry you find this video "normal" and have seen worse.

[alzee]

Why don't we just face the truth eh guys? We haven't changed since the days we used to take our family for a day out at the ampitheatre to watch slaves get pulled apart by lions. Or the more recent days when we'd gather at the gallows for hot tea 'n' hangings.

Human race = sick

Exactly. People were morbid back then and they still are now. Surely youve all experienced the 'slow-down' of traffic on a motorway/highway when there's an accident and folks start rubber-necking?? Same thing.

You can all wrap yourselves in cotton wool if you want to, I looked and it just shows that in the real world, people do these things to themselves.

People do bad things all the time in the real world, don't be afraid of it or hide away. Experience it and be brave out there. Not like a frightened rabbit or mouse.

^^

Selfish cow,image how terrified the driver was.Why not stay home and take an overdose if you want to leave Prison Earth,its what I did (or tried)

I used to work in London and used the tube-trains on a daily basis. In my years there there were 2 suicides from people jumping in fron of the tube. Both times I was hugely pissed off at the lack of consideration for the driver and stranded passengers. If you're gonna top yourself, don't make other people suffer as a consequence. Selfish doesn't really quite cover it for me.

[brainfreeze]

Exactly. People were morbid back then and they still are now. Surely youve all experienced the 'slow-down' of traffic on a motorway/highway when there's an accident and folks start rubber-necking?? Same thing.



^^



I used to work in London and used the tube-trains on a daily basis. In my years there there were 2 suicides from people jumping in fron of the tube. Both times I was hugely pissed off at the lack of consideration for the driver and stranded passengers. If you're gonna top yourself, don't make other people suffer as a consequence. Selfish doesn't really quite cover it for me.

The question is, did you stop for a moment and feel sorry for a family who were about to receive bad news those days? Or were you too full of what is important to you to even consider them, maybe send them a silent blessing?

[nayan]

Its not about being a saint is it? We all know this happens..do we need people to film it for us just to be certain? Would you watch it if this girl was a member of your family?
Yeah each to there own,but that girls family have to live with this and also live with the fact that a video of there daughters suicide is being gloryfied on youtube and is being passed around phone to phone.

That's true, think about the how the family have to live with this.

You've said it right mate.

[nightwalker]

Selfish cow,image how terrified the driver was.Why not stay home and take an overdose if you want to leave Prison Earth,its what I did (or tried)

Who the hell are you to judge her? You have no idea what was going through her mind for her to do that. Who gave you the right to sit on your high horse and pass condemnation and call her selfish?

If you have attempted suicide as you alledge or have any understanding of depression etc (and no we are not talking about just having a bad day) then I would have thought you would demonstrate more empathy and much much less ignorance.

Lucky for people like Alzee who dont know what it is to truly want to kill yourself - I am glad that you dont as I wouldnt wish it on anyone. How sad they were such an inconveniece to your busy and important little life.

[alzee]

The question is, did you stop for a moment and feel sorry for a family who were about to receive bad news those days? Or were you too full of what is important to you to even consider them, maybe send them a silent blessing?

No I didnt.

Did you stop to consider the poor driver who was traumatised byt this selfish girl?

If people want to kill themselves, that's their prerogative. But ffs, have a little respect for those still living and try not to traumatise them for the rest of their lives!

[brainfreeze]

No I didnt.

Did you stop to consider the poor driver who was traumatised byt this selfish girl?

If people want to kill themselves, that's their prerogative. But ffs, have a little respect for those still living and try not to traumatise them for the rest of their lives!

I did consider the driver and the passengers and I find it all very sad and awful, too awful to want to watch, never mind imagining inadvertantly being involved in it. I thank my lucky stars that I'm not in a painful place like that girl was to think that to jump is the only out.

[big_al]

Regarding the toruture pics, theBF and I were discussing last night how it is that peeps in the military can perform such horrendous acts and we came to the conclusion that it's down to catching the lads at an impressionable age and desensitisation.

A few of the desensitised have popped up on this thread. I feel sorry for them for believing the rest of us who can't/don't want to watch that video should get a life.

I'm sorry you find this video "normal" and have seen worse.
I never said i found it normal. I do however find all the wailing abnormal particularly when you consider all the suffering that goes on in this world.
I

[nightwalker]

No I didnt.

Did you stop to consider the poor driver who was traumatised byt this selfish girl?

If people want to kill themselves, that's their prerogative. But ffs, have a little respect for those still living and try not to traumatise them for the rest of their lives!


Its probably not possible for someone like you to comprehend but when someone gets to the stage where they feel they have no other option but to take their own lives - funny enough that tends to outweigh anything else. I doubt very much she went out and thought 'oh I'll traumatise a train driver today and cause inconvenience to passengers' - it is likely all she thought of was the overwhelming desire to be dead.

It makes me laugh people like you on here who pretend to be awake blah blah blah and yet you are devoid of common compassion and empathy. FFS I dont know who is worse, the ptb or people like you.

[brainfreeze]

I never said i found it normal. I do however find all the wailing abnormal particularly when you consider all the suffering that goes on in this world.
I

There are plenty of us wailing about that on forum boards too. I find it odd that you're quite happy to accept it's not normal but to watch it because God knows worse happens. What sort of mind set is that?

[alzee]

I did consider the driver and the passengers and I find it all very sad and awful, too awful to want to watch, never mind imagining inadvertantly being involved in it. I thank my lucky stars that I'm not in a painful place like that girl was to think that to jump is the only out.

As do I.

If suicide wasn't such an inherently selfish act I probably wouldn't react to it the way I do. But it is, and I do.

Its probably not possible for someone like you to comprehend but when someone gets to the stage where they feel they have no other option but to take their own lives - funny enough that tends to outweigh anything else. I doubt very much she went out and thought 'oh I'll traumatise a train driver today and cause inconvenience to passengers' - it is likely all she thought of was the overwhelming desire to be dead.

It makes me laugh people like you on here who pretend to be awake blah blah blah and yet you are devoid of common compassion and empathy. FFS I dont know who is worse, the ptb or people like you.

lol! Clueless much? Rant away, pal, whatever gets you through the day :)

[real6]

jees...some of you need to get a life: theres shit loads of stuff out there 100 times worse than that. If you cant handle a black and white grainy video that shows next to nothing how can you come here and demand 'truth'?

This is kind of why i posted it, just to see peoples reaction. To me it's very sad, but hey, that's life. And it should have not been put into public eye, but hey, that's the way the world works with technology now a days.

[breezinreezin]

What can you expect from the headline, Argentinian Girl Commits Suicide With Train (CCTV)?

Not watched the clip btw, just wondered why people would want to watch it?


Ditto. And neither have I watched any of the hostage beheadings, Saddam hanging, etc. By watching it, I perpetuate it.

Naturally I now have to say to the OP, what did you want to acheive by posting this?. What possible reason can you see to post the final moments of some poor, suffering girl?

[breezinreezin]

This is kind of why i posted it, just to see peoples reaction.

Jeez, there are some real sickos on this forum:mad:

[nightwalker]

As do I.

If suicide wasn't such an inherently selfish act I probably wouldn't react to it the way I do. But it is, and I do.



lol! Clueless much? Rant away, pal, whatever gets you through the day :)

Ah another little person who has been well trained to think selfish is a dirty term - oh the shock horror of someone being being selfish :eek:

Clueless? Yes you are, most definitely.

[nofuture]

If it was George Bush or any of the neo con crew I could watch it all day.:o

[nightwalker]

If it was George Bush or any of the neo con crew I could watch it all day.:o

And so you are different to them how? Is that how it will be? We replace once bunch of sick people for another?

[real6]

Jeez, there are some real sickos on this forum:mad:

O, so i'm a sicko because i have posted this?

[alzee]

Ah another little person who has been well trained to think selfish is a dirty term - oh the shock horror of someone being being selfish :eek:

Clueless? Yes you are, most definitely.

I see your text but all that comes across is blah blah blah

[bulletproofheart]

I assume no one knew the woman on a personal level?

You see worse things on the news.

[real6]

I see your text but all that comes across is blah blah blah

Bwhahahhahaahahha

[nightwalker]

I am blown away by your sophisticated wit and repartee Alzee.

Have a great day :)

[nofuture]

And so you are different to them how? Is that how it will be? We replace once bunch of sick people for another?

Some people who commit evil deeds are haunted by them, when karma compels them in whatever direction, it's a good lesson for all.

[sharpiesix]

Why post this shite?

[decim]

Necrophilia

Research

In 1958, Klaf and Brown[6] commented that, although rarely described, necrophilic fantasies may occur more often than is generally supposed.

Rosman and Resnick[8] (1989) theorized that either of the following situations could be antecedents to necrophilia (pp. 161):

1. The necrophile develops poor self-esteem, perhaps due in part to a significant loss;

(a) He/she is very fearful of rejection by women/men and he/she desires a sexual partner who is incapable of rejecting him/her; and/or
(b) He/she is fearful of the dead, and transforms his/her fear — by means of reaction formation — into a desire.

2. He/she develops an exciting fantasy of sex with a corpse, sometimes after exposure to a corpse.

The authors also reported that, of their sample of 'necrophiliacs,':

* 68 percent were motivated by a desire for an unresisting and unrejecting partner;
* 21 percent by a want for reunion with a lost partner;
* 15 percent by sexual attraction to dead people;
* 15 percent by a desire for comfort or to overcome feelings of isolation; and
* 11 percent by a desire to remedy low self-esteem by expressing power over a corpse (pp. 159).

At the end of their own report, Rosman and Resnick wrote that their study should only be used like a spring-board for further, more in depth, research.

Minor modern researches conducted in England have shown that some necrophiles tend to choose a dead mate after failing to create romantic attachments with the living[cit]

Necrophilia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[nayan]

This is kind of why i posted it, just to see peoples reaction. To me it's very sad, but hey, that's life. And it should have not been put into public eye, but hey, that's the way the world works with technology now a days.

Yeah, that's the way the world works with technology, but who said you had to contribute to 'the way the world works'.

[real6]

Yeah, that's the way the world works with technology, but who said you had to contribute to 'the way the world works'.

But who said you had to contribute to 'the way YOU THINK the world works?'

[monkfish]

jees...some of you need to get a life: theres shit loads of stuff out there 100 times worse than that. If you cant handle a black and white grainy video that shows next to nothing how can you come here and demand 'truth'?

Its not about handeling it mate,ive seen far worse in real life trust me. But thats just not the case,its the gloryfying it thats wrong in my eyes...its no different than people passing beheadings around on there phones.
And demanding the truth aint watching girls jumping infront of trains..neither is it going to change the system we live in..just adds to it.

[hawk]

People need to understand the reason this is posted is to wake you up to the reality that happens everyday here in this world. People die everyday here on our planet. We hear about people getting killed in the Iraq conflict and now its happening in Afghanistan and Pakistan,but they never show you the real pictures.
It's becuz people can't take the sight of real horrors. Nobody wants to believe that things like this really happen but they do. If people were really exposed to this and saw it themselves, I honestly believe then we would all rise up together and demand that something be done to change it. There would be a war, a possible world war like nobody has ever seen.
People want to be sheltered from reality, they can't take horrors like this.It is too much mentally and emotionally draining for them to deal with.
But I do believe it is necessary.
Tell the truth, all of you: would you rather be told the truth, the real truth of what is really going on right now? Or are you just saying that you want to know when in fact you cannot mentally cope with what might be the ultimate horror?
It's like those pictures of those Prisoners being abused and raped by those US and Iraqi soldiers. They banned it becuz nobody wants to believe it's real but they also banned them becuz people can't look at something so terrible and stay sane. Your mind cannot comprehend those things as to why somebody would do this to another human being.
I would rather face the ugly truth than live my life being lied to all the time. I would rather live in the light than live in the dark.

[rhydra]

I watched it until she came into view then I stopped it and closed the window, don't think I really needed to see any more, quite depressing really.

[teardropexplodes]

I can tell you with a fairly high degree of certainty why that poor woman did what she did.
Her mind and soul had been ripped apart and twisted by years of pills prescribed for some "mental disorder" or other.

[moondancer]

People need to understand the reason this is posted is to wake you up to the reality that happens everyday here in this world. People die everyday here on our planet. We hear about people getting killed in the Iraq conflict and now its happening in Afghanistan and Pakistan,but they never show you the real pictures.
It's becuz people can't take the sight of real horrors. Nobody wants to believe that things like this really happen but they do. If people were really exposed to this and saw it themselves, I honestly believe then we would all rise up together and demand that something be done to change it. There would be a war, a possible world war like nobody has ever seen.
People want to be sheltered from reality, they can't take horrors like this.It is too much mentally and emotionally draining for them to deal with.
But I do believe it is necessary.
Tell the truth, all of you: would you rather be told the truth, the real truth of what is really going on right now? Or are you just saying that you want to know when in fact you cannot mentally cope with what might be the ultimate horror?
It's like those pictures of those Prisoners being abused and raped by those US and Iraqi soldiers. They banned it becuz nobody wants to believe it's real but they also banned them becuz people can't look at something so terrible and stay sane. Your mind cannot comprehend those things as to why somebody would do this to another human being.
I would rather face the ugly truth than live my life being lied to all the time. I would rather live in the light than live in the dark.

Hiya hawk :)

I understand what you mean about people turning a blind eye...thats how things are allowed to happen.. noone standing up to it / pretending its not happening.

Crimes such as whats happening to people and kids over in iraq or any other part of the world, of course people shouldnt turn a blind eye.. and those pics maybe should be put out there, to make people sit up and take notice.. (and I say maybe, cause on on the other hand, as the world is now and what we know.. who knows.. it could be photoshopped and just done to cause unrest..)

But surely.. everyone knows that suicide goes on and people have been throwing themselves under trains for years..

Im not sure how watching someones kid do this, enlightens anyone? this sort of stuff is more like people slowing down on the motorway when they see a bad crash.. its just morbid fascination? Im not sure what the learning point is?

(by the way.. ive seen a couple of nasty comment about your pic/avatar which were totaly uncalled for.. I think you have a lovely pic :) x )

Cant remember who said it about people who commit suicide are selfish.. but just to say.. i knew someone who tried to take their life and were found.. he said to me after, that when you cross that very fine line/balance in your mind and decide to go ahead and take your life.. your mind goes onto a totally different level.. a level most of us will most likely never know...

So, although its difficult for the people left behind and can be perceived as a selfish act.. by the sounds of it, all logical thoughts and consideration about the destruction and pain they leave people with, has long gone by the time they do the act..

I think this explains why some people do it in a place where loved ones will find them.. its not a pre planned notion.. 'im going to do it here as my kids / family will find me and thats what i want..'

sad days :(

[moondancer]

Hiya hawk :)

(and I say maybe, cause on on the other hand, as the world is now and what we know.. who knows.. it could be photoshopped and just done to cause unrest..)

reading that back.. its pretty silly of me to say that those kind of pics could be photoshopped.. but i just meant.. its hard to know anymore what is real and what isnt.. and what is created to cause reaction

[steevo]

reading that back.. its pretty silly of me to say that those kind of pics could be photoshopped.. but i just meant.. its hard to know anymore what is real and what isnt.. and what is created to cause reaction

Youre right, we DO have to consider that it could all be photoshopped. It is POSSIBLE.
Question EVERYTHING.

[moondancer]

Youre right, we DO have to consider that it could all be photoshopped. It is POSSIBLE.
Question EVERYTHING.

:( yes.. like i say, i imagine it would be pretty difficult to photoshop something like that.. on the other hand.. its mindblowing really what actually can be done..

cheers steevo

[real6]

People need to understand the reason this is posted is to wake you up to the reality that happens everyday here in this world. People die everyday here on our planet. We hear about people getting killed in the Iraq conflict and now its happening in Afghanistan and Pakistan,but they never show you the real pictures.
It's becuz people can't take the sight of real horrors. Nobody wants to believe that things like this really happen but they do. If people were really exposed to this and saw it themselves, I honestly believe then we would all rise up together and demand that something be done to change it. There would be a war, a possible world war like nobody has ever seen.
People want to be sheltered from reality, they can't take horrors like this.It is too much mentally and emotionally draining for them to deal with.
But I do believe it is necessary.
Tell the truth, all of you: would you rather be told the truth, the real truth of what is really going on right now? Or are you just saying that you want to know when in fact you cannot mentally cope with what might be the ultimate horror?
It's like those pictures of those Prisoners being abused and raped by those US and Iraqi soldiers. They banned it becuz nobody wants to believe it's real but they also banned them becuz people can't look at something so terrible and stay sane. Your mind cannot comprehend those things as to why somebody would do this to another human being.
I would rather face the ugly truth than live my life being lied to all the time. I would rather live in the light than live in the dark.

Thank you. Alot of people live in a fare reality and are blinded by their emotions. They turn away and rather not see what's going on. All i say to that is: wake the fuck up and snap the fuck out the matrix...

What if aliens came down and attacked us? Or what if Terminators really existed and you were in hiding with a few people for your life? And here comes along some people looking for fuel but you say its just for us and if you hide and take cover the terminators will never come looking for you? Turning away people on the run?

Same scenario...

People have to see whats going on around them, i know its tough but you have to see. People mistake their emotions for saying "O the OP/Person posting this is glorifying it...

[moondancer]

Thank you. Alot of people live in a fare reality and are blinded by their emotions. They turn away and rather not see what's going on. All i say to that is: wake the fuck up and snap the fuck out the matrix...

What if aliens came down and attacked us? Or what if Terminators really existed and you were in hiding with a few people for your life? And here comes along some people looking for fuel but you say its just for us and if you hide and take cover the terminators will never come looking for you? Turning away people on the run?

Same scenario...

People have to see whats going on around them, i know its tough but you have to see. People mistake their emotions for saying "O the OP/Person posting this is glorifying it...

Hiya,

totally understand where youre coming from.. if the shit hit the fan.. alot of people wouldnt cope... but I still dont get how watching some poor lass commit suicide teaches us anything?

Im not saying you shouldnt have posted it.. thats up to you.. but like i say, I dont see what we can learn from this video? it seems pointless...

[angelx777]

not disturbing at all, looks like a mannequin anyways

[brainfreeze]

not disturbing at all, looks like a mannequin anyways

*Pats angelx777 on the back*

No go watch a hanging or something :rolleyes:

[whatistruth]

If you people think this is bad, check out theync.com, a site i'll never look it again.
I don't know what's sicker, the videos or the comments.

I remember one vid where these soldiers behead this women, worst thing i've ever seen, the sound was the worst.
First they gagged her and she was squirming around in terror, then they laughed as they slit her throat and she struggled to breathe.
Laughing like sick kids with a magnifying glass killing ants...

Then some guy wrote on the comment "Damn this sucks, i want to see real suffering, they should of disembowled her first then burned her a bit".
Someone else claimed the video sexually aroused them.




We're a sick species and if hell exists, it's this planet.
Even as you read this, many people all over the world are suffering more than you can imagine.

[brainfreeze]

If you people think this is bad, check out theync.com, a site i'll never look it again.
I don't know what's sicker, the videos or the comments.

I remember one vid where these soldiers behead this women, worst thing i've ever seen, the sound was the worst.
First they gagged her and she was squirming around in terror, then they laughed as they slit her throat and she struggled to breathe.
Laughing like sick kids with a magnifying glass killing ants...

Then some guy wrote on the comment "Damn this sucks, i want to see real suffering, they should of disembowled her first then burned her a bit".
Someone else claimed the video sexually aroused them.




We're a sick species and if hell exists, it's this planet.
Even as you read this, many people all over the world are suffering more than you can imagine.

Yet people are afraid of aliens and reptiles? Ha! They should be afraid of us. God knows I am!

[hawk]

No, people should be afraid of the truth.
Look at this horror. This is reality.
www.rotten.com.

Look up cab driver. That's what goes on somewhere in this world everyday.
we are not protecting ourselves by lying to each other and ourselves.

[largejack]

I had a friend who did it this way that's all I'm going to say on the matter

[big_al]

If you people think this is bad, check out theync.com, a site i'll never look it again.
I don't know what's sicker, the videos or the comments.

I remember one vid where these soldiers behead this women, worst thing i've ever seen, the sound was the worst.
First they gagged her and she was squirming around in terror, then they laughed as they slit her throat and she struggled to breathe.
Laughing like sick kids with a magnifying glass killing ants...

Then some guy wrote on the comment "Damn this sucks, i want to see real suffering, they should of disembowled her first then burned her a bit".
Someone else claimed the video sexually aroused them.




We're a sick species and if hell exists, it's this planet.
Even as you read this, many people all over the world are suffering more than you can imagine.

I would quite agree. Its not so much the fact that extreme reality video is available it is how people seem amused by it. But that's what it is - reality. I work for a transport authority and part of it owns a metro service and we get one suicide every 3 to 6 months, so this happens locally to where I live.

Part of my point is it is right to empathize with the victim/family/witnesses etc but they the way some people write about their reactions you give me the impression your scared to get out of bed. This shit happens all the time, its not nice, but it happens, so just get on with living your life until its your turn.

People who write the things they do like on websites like The YNC - dont worry they'll get their comeuppance.

[monkfish]

No, people should be afraid of the truth.
Look at this horror. This is reality.
www.rotten.com.

Look up cab driver. That's what goes on somewhere in this world everyday.
we are not protecting ourselves by lying to each other and ourselves.

Oh great...now your advertising sick websites like that one.
We know what happens and we know what a dead body looks like! So how are we protecting ourselves by looking at this shit?
I remember all those people in derby urging that kid to jump off the building so they could film it on there phones...would they really bother if people like this wouldnt watch it...or see how many hits on youtube.
Makes me fucking sick!

[jojo]

And demanding the truth aint watching girls jumping infront of trains..neither is it going to change the system we live in..just adds to it.

well said! in full agreement.

[jojo]

i have no desire to watch a human being end their life. you can feel the intense negative emotion of the situation in your solar plexus, and i do not want to feel their death cry in my own body.


why someone would want to watch this shit is beyond me tbh.

[jojo]

People who write the things they do like on websites like The YNC - dont worry they'll get their comeuppance.

yes... im sure they will

[brainfreeze]

No, people should be afraid of the truth.
Look at this horror. This is reality.
www.rotten.com.


Look up cab driver. That's what goes on somewhere in this world everyday.
we are not protecting ourselves by lying to each other and ourselves.

So you believe to see the horrors is the only way to know the truth?

Yes, horrible things happen every day, sick people sit back watching and recording these horrors to post onto internet sites to titilate those with the same mindset as themselves.

I don't need to see it to know it's nasty. I don't need to see it to know horror is everywhere.

Why do you need to look? What do you get from it?

It simply makes me sick, not with denial, but of the senseless waste.

[breezinreezin]

i have no desire to watch a human being end their life. you can feel the intense negative emotion of the situation in your solar plexus, and i do not want to feel their death cry in my own body.


why someone would want to watch this shit is beyond me tbh.

Yes, this is true and I believe it is damaging to us to witness this stuff. I feel like a part of me has died as well on the few occasions I've seen monsters perform for the camera. And I say again to people here, what do you think you profit from viewing this suffering?

[offspring of eve]

It makes you wonder if I uploaded a clip of me hanging a great grand child of mine and whacking its' teeny bot "" totally fictious"" as I'm only 43 how many people would view it ?? Are people who post these threads trying to justify their voyerism for the extreme ??? The world has allways been a strange place and I'm now wondering if this site has become some kind of site for "Mis Fits !" Either way I'm signing off for a few weeks, I've had enough.

[bulletproofheart]

I did not know this woman so it did not offend me.Spare a thought for how terrified the driver must have been.

[nayan]

But who said you had to contribute to 'the way YOU THINK the world works?'

No one said i had to contribute, I wasn't thinking how the world should work. But hey, there is no human nature, there is human behaviour.

[hawk]

No brain freeze. People are afraid of death. Simple as that. You know it and so does everyone else here.
Stop and think what is the one thing you cannot stand to see happening to someone else? Something you know that you would just lose your sanity over?
It's a person either being killed or dying in some awful way.
I think the human psyche cannot deal with horrors like that so people shut it off. They mentally shut down so they don't have to. They become emotionally unattached so that it does not affect them as harshly.
Its life, right?
Nobody thinks of an animal being killed or hunted for food, right? Its hard to do when you have to put the family pet to sleep.
The mental and emotional trauma is terrible to bear. But it does happen.
If a friend of yours came up to you and confessed to you that they killed someone you knew, how would you feel?
Or if someone you knew committed suicide, what do you think you would go thru?
I've had people in my life that I knew who did commit suicide and its hard enough to deal with. One boy committed suicide while I was in high school. I dreamt that he did it, with a gun, his stepfather's 38 caliber pistol. He had an orange towel wrapped around him and he had a green bedspread on his bed.
He simply lay down on the bed, put the gun in his mouth and pulled the trigger. It was over before it started. His mother found him.
The next person who did it was a friend of mine who I met over the internet. Wolfie and I were real close. He was an ex-marine who was discharged due to the fact that he developed diabetes overnight. His pancreas shut down and he went into a sudden coma which he stayed in for three weeks. By the time he was let out of the hospital, he had lost 40 pounds and he was discharged from the Marines.
He was known as a brittle diabetic. He really couldn't control his diabetes. Whenever we talked, he would always mention the fact that he wanted to kill himself. I hated the thought of it so I would say something to him. We all would but most in the chat room were afraid to even confront him about it becuz they figured it was simply a ploy to get attention. I knew better, I had this gut feeling he was serious.
I was right.
Later on, the group broke up when some girls came in and shut down the site and the chatroom. We lost contact with each other.
I went on about my life but i never knew what happened until one night I dreamt that he injected himself with his insulin. It was over in a few mins. Then it changed and I saw people opening the apartment door and finding his body. Then it changed again and i saw myself with my family they were at a carnival or something,and I was busy doing something. Wolfie suddenly showed up out of the blue and hugged me. He kissed me good bye and said he had to leave. I remember I told him I loved him,too and I knew he was dead, but he had to come and say good bye.
It was 4 yrs later that I thought of looking him up just to see if I could make contact. I found his obituary on Google. It confirmed my dream.
Wolfie could not accept the fact of living as a diabetic all the rest of his life possibly going blind or losing a leg or a ft or a hand or whatever. He loved being in the Marines,too. And it was all he wanted to do.
So I'm familiar with suicides.
Maybe it's why I feel the way I do about life in general.
Can you understand now?

[grannymoose]

Really put me off that add above the video: "Meet Sexy Women in your Area!".

i would like to see if they could around here! :rolleyes:

[nayan]

No brain freeze. People are afraid of death. Simple as that. You know it and so does everyone else here.
Stop and think what is the one thing you cannot stand to see happening to someone else? Something you know that you would just lose your sanity over?
It's a person either being killed or dying in some awful way.
I think the human psyche cannot deal with horrors like that so people shut it off. They mentally shut down so they don't have to. They become emotionally unattached so that it does not affect them as harshly.
Its life, right?
Nobody thinks of an animal being killed or hunted for food, right? Its hard to do when you have to put the family pet to sleep.
The mental and emotional trauma is terrible to bear. But it does happen.
If a friend of yours came up to you and confessed to you that they killed someone you knew, how would you feel?
Or if someone you knew committed suicide, what do you think you would go thru?
I've had people in my life that I knew who did commit suicide and its hard enough to deal with. One boy committed suicide while I was in high school. I dreamt that he did it, with a gun, his stepfather's 38 caliber pistol. He had an orange towel wrapped around him and he had a green bedspread on his bed.
He simply lay down on the bed, put the gun in his mouth and pulled the trigger. It was over before it started. His mother found him.
The next person who did it was a friend of mine who I met over the internet. Wolfie and I were real close. He was an ex-marine who was discharged due to the fact that he developed diabetes overnight. His pancreas shut down and he went into a sudden coma which he stayed in for three weeks. By the time he was let out of the hospital, he had lost 40 pounds and he was discharged from the Marines.
He was known as a brittle diabetic. He really couldn't control his diabetes. Whenever we talked, he would always mention the fact that he wanted to kill himself. I hated the thought of it so I would say something to him. We all would but most in the chat room were afraid to even confront him about it becuz they figured it was simply a ploy to get attention. I knew better, I had this gut feeling he was serious.
I was right.
Later on, the group broke up when some girls came in and shut down the site and the chatroom. We lost contact with each other.
I went on about my life but i never knew what happened until one night I dreamt that he injected himself with his insulin. It was over in a few mins. Then it changed and I saw people opening the apartment door and finding his body. Then it changed again and i saw myself with my family they were at a carnival or something,and I was busy doing something. Wolfie suddenly showed up out of the blue and hugged me. He kissed me good bye and said he had to leave. I remember I told him I loved him,too and I knew he was dead, but he had to come and say good bye.
It was 4 yrs later that I thought of looking him up just to see if I could make contact. I found his obituary on Google. It confirmed my dream.
Wolfie could not accept the fact of living as a diabetic all the rest of his life possibly going blind or losing a leg or a ft or a hand or whatever. He loved being in the Marines,too. And it was all he wanted to do.
So I'm familiar with suicides.
Maybe it's why I feel the way I do about life in general.
Can you understand now?

I understand, thank you

[breezinreezin]

No brain freeze. People are afraid of death. Simple as that. You know it and so does everyone else here.
Stop and think what is the one thing you cannot stand to see happening to someone else? Something you know that you would just lose your sanity over?
It's a person either being killed or dying in some awful way.
I think the human psyche cannot deal with horrors like that so people shut it off. They mentally shut down so they don't have to. They become emotionally unattached so that it does not affect them as harshly.
Its life, right?
Nobody thinks of an animal being killed or hunted for food, right? Its hard to do when you have to put the family pet to sleep.
The mental and emotional trauma is terrible to bear. But it does happen.
If a friend of yours came up to you and confessed to you that they killed someone you knew, how would you feel?
Or if someone you knew committed suicide, what do you think you would go thru?
I've had people in my life that I knew who did commit suicide and its hard enough to deal with. One boy committed suicide while I was in high school. I dreamt that he did it, with a gun, his stepfather's 38 caliber pistol. He had an orange towel wrapped around him and he had a green bedspread on his bed.
He simply lay down on the bed, put the gun in his mouth and pulled the trigger. It was over before it started. His mother found him.
The next person who did it was a friend of mine who I met over the internet. Wolfie and I were real close. He was an ex-marine who was discharged due to the fact that he developed diabetes overnight. His pancreas shut down and he went into a sudden coma which he stayed in for three weeks. By the time he was let out of the hospital, he had lost 40 pounds and he was discharged from the Marines.
He was known as a brittle diabetic. He really couldn't control his diabetes. Whenever we talked, he would always mention the fact that he wanted to kill himself. I hated the thought of it so I would say something to him. We all would but most in the chat room were afraid to even confront him about it becuz they figured it was simply a ploy to get attention. I knew better, I had this gut feeling he was serious.
I was right.
Later on, the group broke up when some girls came in and shut down the site and the chatroom. We lost contact with each other.
I went on about my life but i never knew what happened until one night I dreamt that he injected himself with his insulin. It was over in a few mins. Then it changed and I saw people opening the apartment door and finding his body. Then it changed again and i saw myself with my family they were at a carnival or something,and I was busy doing something. Wolfie suddenly showed up out of the blue and hugged me. He kissed me good bye and said he had to leave. I remember I told him I loved him,too and I knew he was dead, but he had to come and say good bye.
It was 4 yrs later that I thought of looking him up just to see if I could make contact. I found his obituary on Google. It confirmed my dream.
Wolfie could not accept the fact of living as a diabetic all the rest of his life possibly going blind or losing a leg or a ft or a hand or whatever. He loved being in the Marines,too. And it was all he wanted to do.
So I'm familiar with suicides.
Maybe it's why I feel the way I do about life in general.
Can you understand now?


You seem to think you've put forward some sort of good argument but you haven't given one single good reason to watch this kind of stuff here. So once again how do you think people profit from watching people either being tortured or dying? And don't patronize us by saying to wake people up, you have no idea about how much suffering or death people who oppose this sort of voyeurism have seen, either in their personal or professional lives. Believe me I've seen enough and I say to watch this stuff is no innoculation to the fear of death. On the contrary, it just desensitizes people to other peoples suffering.

[moondancer]

You seem to think you've put forward some sort of good argument but you haven't given one single good reason to watch this kind of stuff here. So once again how do you think people profit from watching people either being tortured or dying? And don't patronize us by saying to wake people up, you have no idea about how much suffering or death people who oppose this sort of voyeurism have seen, either in their personal or professional lives. Believe me I've seen enough and I say to watch this stuff is no innoculation to the fear of death. On the contrary, it just desensitizes people to other peoples suffering.

Yes... that was my point, you put it much better.. :) just pointless, morbid fascination.. waste of energy

[geezer661]

jees...some of you need to get a life: theres shit loads of stuff out there 100 times worse than that. If you cant handle a black and white grainy video that shows next to nothing how can you come here and demand 'truth'?


too true, You have people coming on this site looking for truth but cant face that truth. This is what happens in the world and you cant face it. We live in the west were we are brought up to be shielded from stuff like this. In places like the middle east were we see people bein beheaded and think how can this happen. They are brought up not shielded by this. Imagine being in Iraq and havin yr family blown up by american imperialist bombs. They have to face slaughter on a daily basis thats why they are not so sensitive, its all about what envioronment yr brought up in. So stop all bein whiny little bitches and face the truth of life. And to all the people who cry about this thread. Why the fuck do you feel the need to post on it then and keep it going.

[decim]

The only thing that changes is the technology.

Gilles de Rais

In Jean Benedetti’s biography of Gilles de Rais, he explains what happened to the children - both boys and girls:

The child was pampered and dressed in better clothes than it had ever known. The evening began with a large meal and heavy drinking, particularly hippocras, which acted as a stimulant. The child was taken to an upper room to which only Gilles (de Rais) and his immediate circle were admitted. The child would then be confronted with the true nature of its situation. The shock thus produced on the child was an initial source of pleasure for Gilles.

An accomplice in many of the crimes, Etienne Corrillaut, known as Poitou, testified that de Rais then raped the child as they were hung from a hook by the neck. Before the victim died, Gilles took the child down, comforted them, repeated the rape and either killed the child himself or had the child slain.

Poitou testified that the child victims were murdered “sometimes by decapitating them, sometimes by cutting their throats, sometimes by dismembering them, sometimes by breaking their necks with a stick, and that there was a weapon specifically for their execution, known as a braquemard.”

Gilles de Rais rarely left a child alive for more than one evening’s pleasure, Poitou claimed. Many times they were dealt mortal wounds before de Rais sodomized them. He would then take his pleasure as the child died. Occasionally, he would perform a sex act with a dead child.

In his own confession, Gilles testified that “when the children were dead he kissed them and those who had the most handsome limbs and heads he held up to admire them, and had their bodies cruelly cut open and took delight at the sight of their inner organs; and very often when the children were dying he sat on their stomachs and took pleasure in seeing them die and laughed…”

Bodies were cremated in the chamber of horrors. The fires burned slowly over time so as to minimize the smell, testified Henriet Griart, another co-conspirator. Poitou also claimed the ashes were then dumped in the cesspool or moat.

Gilles de Rais - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Be as happy to watch your daughter, mother, sister jump in front of a train?

[hawk]

Well then breezin, since you can't handle it, then leave the rest of the people alone. The point is,the girl is dead, my question is this, why the hell didn't the train operator stop as soon as he realized he hit somebody? It seems like that damn train goes on forever when you watch the clip. Now if that were me, I would have hit the brakes probably as soon as I saw her knowing that I was already too late to stop but trying to anyway. You know as well as the rest of us,the damn driver was freaked out and probably didn't know what to do anymore than most people. There probably wasn't much of a body left after he did try to stop the train, when they went back to look for her.

There will be alot more suicides when the shit really hits the fan becuz people will not know how to cope. And what can you do? They put their trust in money and then suddenly the banks will be shut down, you paychecks you cannot cash them, so what are you gonna do for money?

Now they are trying to implement more control with new ID cards just so people can cross the Canadian/Mexico borders? There are people right now trying to buy gold but there are back order and to be honest, not everyone will get gold or silver anything. Suicides will be on the increase becuz people have put their trust in a system that no longer works for anyone anymore. It won't be just the poor, it will be these small banks and these other businesses who suffer the most. People will panic becuz nobody will know what to do.
I'll tell you what to do, go back to the old bartering system and use that to survive until people can figure out how to get back on their feet. But you watch, this sort of thing will be commonplace everywhere once the banks shut down.
I suppose people will become numb to that, too, huh?

[breezinreezin]

Well then breezin, since you can't handle it, then leave the rest of the people alone.

You've made no attempt to answer any of my questions, so there's no point in trying to reason with you. And judging by this comment, you're clearly not very bright. I'll mark you as one to ignore in future.

[hawk]

What it comes down to breezin is you're just afraid to face reality. The girl is dead, there's nothing anyone can do now. Just admit that you don't have the stomach for stuff like this but yet you can go to a funeral and touch a person who is lying there in that coffin.
Nobody profits anything from a suicide or senseless killing. I'll bet you even money that if your life were in mortal danger you couldn't even pull the trigger to save yourself. That's what this is really about,isn't it?
You're so full of love for your fellow man but you can't kill another person just to help save yourself even if it was the right thing to do. I guess you expect somebody else to help protect you from the big bad meanies.
Sorry, but that's not the way life works. You have to help take care of yourself and if that means that someday you have to fight for your own life,then you'd better be ready to do it. :mad:

[breezinreezin]

What it comes down to breezin is you're just afraid to face reality. The girl is dead, there's nothing anyone can do now. Just admit that you don't have the stomach for stuff like this but yet you can go to a funeral and touch a person who is lying there in that coffin.
Nobody profits anything from a suicide or senseless killing. I'll bet you even money that if your life were in mortal danger you couldn't even pull the trigger to save yourself. That's what this is really about,isn't it?
You're so full of love for your fellow man but you can't kill another person just to help save yourself even if it was the right thing to do. I guess you expect somebody else to help protect you from the big bad meanies.
Sorry, but that's not the way life works. You have to help take care of yourself and if that means that someday you have to fight for your own life,then you'd better be ready to do it. :mad:

You're talking like a fruit loop. Seriously. There's just too much here to take issue with and life's too short.

[hawk]

I got your fruit loop, breezin' Right here.:mad:

[moondancer]

What it comes down to breezin is you're just afraid to face reality. The girl is dead, there's nothing anyone can do now. Just admit that you don't have the stomach for stuff like this but yet you can go to a funeral and touch a person who is lying there in that coffin.
Nobody profits anything from a suicide or senseless killing. I'll bet you even money that if your life were in mortal danger you couldn't even pull the trigger to save yourself. That's what this is really about,isn't it?
You're so full of love for your fellow man but you can't kill another person just to help save yourself even if it was the right thing to do. I guess you expect somebody else to help protect you from the big bad meanies.
Sorry, but that's not the way life works. You have to help take care of yourself and if that means that someday you have to fight for your own life,then you'd better be ready to do it. :mad:

But.. Im still not getting it.. How does watching this help to enlighten us or prepare us? As you say.. she is dead.. its suicide... something we all know goes on.. its surely not turning a blind eye, if you already know about it..

I agree that not turning a blind eye to the cruelty and suffering thats going on around the world would help us (a bit) if the shit hits the fan... and thats where we would be more prepared than many.. I just dont believe that watching a clip like this, does anything apart from add to the distress of the family n friends...

O well.. im bored now.. and wont be bumpin it again :p

as for the driver slowing down.. im not sure what the stopping distance is for a train travelling at high speed..but im thinking, you would have to prepare for your 'emergency stop' a good 5 if not 10 mins before the incident.. and to confirm, when someone gets hit by a speeding train, you sometimes have to walk about a mile down the track, collecting the bits

And even though emergency crews see alot of shit within their jobs.. and even after doing the job for years, they will be called to something on a normal day, and still it can floor um

[amandaooo]

I've personally seen enough suffering, murders and suicides to last me a lifetime. I admit at first it was a morbid curiosity about death and the body.

At one point, I thought about becoming a forensic psychiatrist until I studied it for a year and realised I wouldn't be able to carry around such weight as turning up to someone's perhaps horrific death.

I do think that we should not watch this video for the reason that it is someone's daughter and the familly must be suffering right now. Imagine if your closest friend or family member died and you realised there was a post of their death on the internet and people were discussing it with such points as: "Oh think of the poor train driver" (Although I do agree it's a selfish act to put all those people on the train at risk, people are not the most rational when attempting suicide).

As someone else stated about their solar plexus and the loss of energy you give to negativity I agree with. It's also a moral question. Why on earth view a murder (as that is what suicide is - hatred turned in on itself) of another human being. They should surely not be the sole token of who they are. It was just but a moment in their lives - their last and weakest - but just a moment and to just view one moment and desensitise yourself to the beuaty of what could have been their life is doing you (the watcher) harm to your strength, faith and compassion.

Although I do agree that children murdered and raped by soldiers should be made available to the public in a non-sanitised way.

On the whole, I think this could all be another psy-op to desensitise us a la (more and more as I listen to him) Alex Jones and his ilk.

By banging on about how the elite have complete control and how the police now have all these powers and are in fact thugs - repeated, basically becomes a fact.

First time you see a guy being tased/a girl committing suicide/people saying "JUMP!" to a man on a bridge you feel outraged.

If you are saturated with all this, sooner rather than later you say "Oh that's just another guy being tased " and people (on the comments have you noticed this of late?) blame the victim.

The only way in my opinion to peace is in daily prayer and study of the bible and a knowing that Jesus Christ is the way the truth and the light - reaching out to your fellow man/woman/child with empathy and compassion and always looking to light rather than darkness as an example of just how great humanity can be.

[hawk]

Moon dancer, The girl is dead,just try to think of her suffering as ended. She /her soul has been released from it's physical prison,right? Shes in a much better place now.
The one thing that sticks out in my mind is that once the soul determines that it's time to move on, then nothing the mind/ego,or the body can do to stop it. She is no longer suffering, and to all those people who say that she's in Hell. Again we have the power of logic. Nobody knows if Hell is real or heaven right?
How about this?
I think George Carlin described it best.

George Carlin - Death - YouTube
Listen to this.

[amandaooo]

Good old George got it wrong this time!

In the bible it clearly states not to talk with people you love who have died as it will always be evil spirits The dead are basically dead until the "second coming". Still - I love his rants! What a cantankerous old man he was - in some ways he reminds me a little of my dad! :)

[1971]

what a sad post OP :(

I actually witness a suicide by train, obviously a tramatic time, I was the key witness, police, inquest etc. Can't believe that someone actually got the cctv and distributed it online. Actually I can, some sick people about....:mad:

[geezer661]

Good old George got it wrong this time!

In the bible it clearly states not to talk with people you love who have died as it will always be evil spirits The dead are basically dead until the "second coming". Still - I love his rants! What a cantankerous old man he was - in some ways he reminds me a little of my dad! :)

yea it also says we should stone women and homosexuals to death. Just a crazy work of fiction a dangerous one at tht

[moondancer]

Moon dancer, The girl is dead,just try to think of her suffering as ended...

yes... dont worry.. im not upset

She /her soul has been released from it's physical prison,right? Shes in a much better place now..

yes.. lets hope so :)

The one thing that sticks out in my mind is that once the soul determines that it's time to move on, then nothing the mind/ego,or the body can do to stop it. She is no longer suffering.

yep... can relate to that...

and to all those people who say that she's in Hell. Again we have the power of logic. Nobody knows if Hell is real or heaven right?.

yes.. totally... I doubt shes in hell to be fair.. I doubt there is a hell.. although, coming back as a slug would be a shitter, depending which garden you were in

But remind me again... what value do we get / how does it add to our own journey in life, to see her final moment, stuck up on some shitty website for people to call, judge, whatever...? I bet deep down youre glad your diabetic mate wasnt up there in his full on, darkest moment of this lifetime, ey.. ? Although to be fair, I suppose you would think that would be benefical for people to see.. so, thats your view.. I was just trying to make sense of it

Actually, dont bother reminding me again .. :) we are on a different wave length over this and I have strawberries to eat and my binoculars are callin ;)

How about this?
I think George Carlin described it best.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5m2fmLdyDo
Listen to this..

havent listened to this...im tempted to say I dont need too... as I think I have my head around death.. but thanks for sharing..

[amandaooo]

"yea it also says we should stone women and homosexuals to death. Just a crazy work of fiction a dangerous one at that "

Well no that is not in fact true. Jesus told people that those without sin were to cast the first stone at Mary Magdalene (who was accused of being a prostitute) then the oldest ones left first, followed by the younger ones.

Read my other posts about sodomy - I don't want this ending up the rant room.

I wish people would read the good word of the bible themselves, rather than thinking what the media tell them as of course the aim of the world government is to banish all religions apart from their own.

My own opinion everytime is start either with Romans, Acts or the Gospels then work your way back as it were.

[hawk]

The point is, you have to love yourself first, before you can love others. This girl I truly believe is no longer suffering.We don't know her life or what made her do this.
I blame the person who posted it online. The train operator I'm sure has most likely quit his job,and he's probably going thru therapy now and will continue to do so for a long time.
But I am not going to listen to others tell me that shes in Hell,too. That's old religion talking there.
The train operator will never be the same after this, who can blame him? Who ever worked at that train station or possibly a cop when they were going thru this case and trying to find out what happened took this film and posted it on the internet. They have cameras situated on these trains in case something does come up like this. It's to protect the drivers in case of instances like this. So if anything, get angry at the person who posted it online. It's the after effects that you have to deal with.

[oddblock]

Not clicking link. Things like that make me feel shit :(

[moondancer]

The point is, you have to love yourself first, before you can love others. This girl I truly believe is no longer suffering.We don't know her life or what made her do this.
I blame the person who posted it online. The train operator I'm sure has most likely quit his job,and he's probably going thru therapy now and will continue to do so for a long time.
But I am not going to listen to others tell me that shes in Hell,too. That's old religion talking there.
The train operator will never be the same after this, who can blame him? Who ever worked at that train station or possibly a cop when they were going thru this case and trying to find out what happened took this film and posted it on the internet. They have cameras situated on these trains in case something does come up like this. It's to protect the drivers in case of instances like this. So if anything, get angry at the person who posted it online. It's the after effects that you have to deal with.

I must of missed someone telling you that she was in hell..

Alot of us were angry about it being posted on line..! and then you and some others got mad at us for not wanting to watching it / not seeing the benefit of watching it.. telling us that we were turning a blind eye, were weak and would hamper our development / preperation by not watching it..

Im glad to see you have changed your tact hawk... like we have dicussed, this is nothing about religion, preparing ourselves or being weak.. its about whats right n wrong.. and showing someones darkest moment being played out on the internet.. where friends and family could see it.. is wrong. End of debate really.

I have to say, the way you went at breezin... could do with an apology really.. but hey, thats just my opinion :)

[dude111]

The driver of the train must have been terrified!!

Im not shure why he didnt come to a grinding halt after this happend though!

[hawk]

That's what I couldn't get dude. Why didn't he stop right away? I mean it seems like he keeps driving. I would have tried to hit the brakes the minute I seen her. I can understand the tons of weight pushing the train along but still it seems that he just kept going and going.
I would have quit that job and never looked back.

[neutron flux]

That's what I couldn't get dude. Why didn't he stop right away? I mean it seems like he keeps driving. I would have tried to hit the brakes the minute I seen her. I can understand the tons of weight pushing the train along but still it seems that he just kept going and going.

A train can take up to a mile to stop from the moment the emergency brake is applied.

[hawk]

Well, then that means they didn't have much to go on after the train stopped. I can understand the tons of weight pushing it along,but still I think I would have tried to hit the brakes before I hit her, even if it was just to do something!

[johnthejedi24]

I have seen TONS of worse shit out there on the net, The worst was probably the torture and beating to death of some poor old guy with a hammer. I actually had to click that one OFF. That is one of the few I could never finish.

here is what happened
Dnepropetrovsk maniacs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I won't link to the video because it is pretty disturbing, but if you Google it you will find it. WARNING: WHAT IS SEEN CAN NOT BE UNSEEN!

Reality is harsh. Hopefully we will be able to turn our violent ways into some other kind of practice instead of killing ourselves over petty squables involving false religions, natural resources, and land borders.

[krakhead]

A train can take up to a mile to stop from the moment the emergency brake is applied.

Don't they also HAVE to keep going once they've hit someone to make sure the train is clear of them and not parked on top of them?

[gilly]

I used to have an uncle who was a train driver for decades (he's passed on now, bless him).

He experienced people throwing themselves under his train on 2 occassions, and I can promise you, there is nothing whatsoever a driver can do in those circumstances. Also, it is an extremely harrowing experience for them. So I'd say, whatever other opinions you may have, don't misdirect any anger towards the train-drivers - they're innocent victims themselves.

[neutron flux]

Don't they also HAVE to keep going once they've hit someone to make sure the train is clear of them and not parked on top of them?

Yes, so that the emergency services can do the grim task of retrieving the body. :(

[1eyeopen]

When i was 16 and staying ast a relatives who's house backs onto the district line in East Ham someone was struck by a train. I didn't see it happen but I did watch the body being recovered, with a black bag and a set of them pincer things that street cleaners have for picking up rubbish, so I'll give this clip a miss thanks.

[real6]

I used to have an uncle who was a train driver for decades (he's passed on now, bless him).

He experienced people throwing themselves under his train on 2 occassions, and I can promise you, there is nothing whatsoever a driver can do in those circumstances. Also, it is an extremely harrowing experience for them. So I'd say, whatever other opinions you may have, don't misdirect any anger towards the train-drivers - they're innocent victims themselves.

SO sad, i wonder how these people feel when they see this? Knowing there is nothing they can do and they have to keep going :(

[the nine]

disgusting.. her hands go up a split second before the impact as if she regretted it.. =(

seriously, why was this posted? It's not much better than those snuff videos of people beheading people.

her hands go up almost into the crucifix position, in full control of her own death. very sad.

not much better than a snuff video..silly comment!
I had this misfortune of watching a snuff movie about 20 years ago. those images are BURNED into my memory.
My girlfriends brother told us this was part of a film which had just won awards for best special effects, then about 10 mins in laughed and told us all smug " this in a genine sniff movie"
I watched in shock, and denial, I thought with each scene, that they couldnt possibly get worse than the last but they inevitabley did.. very grusome and psychologically very disturbing.
so the comparisons are ridiculous..


on a side note..interesting lyrics in an excellent tune, and relevent to this topic

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[nofuture]

Video: Failed train track suicide attempt caught on film

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/5430857/Video-Failed-train-track-suicide-attempt-caught-on-film.html

Published: 6:14PM BST 02 Jun 2009


The amazing CCTV footage comes from the Israeli Railroad Company and shows crossing in northern Isreal.

On Sunday the woman, circled in red, approached the tracks and a railway guard to the right of the screen tried to signal to her. She then appeared to lie down on the tracks as a high-speed train hurtles over her for several seconds.

Incredibly after the train passed, she appeared to get up and walk away.

The footage was broadcast on the Israeli TV network Channel 2. According to the station, police later caught up with the woman and escorted her to a local hospital were she received minor medical treatment for bruising to the head, and then was moved to psychiatric hospital in Northern Israel for further evaluation.

[alzee]

Video: Failed train track suicide attempt caught on film

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/5430857/Video-Failed-train-track-suicide-attempt-caught-on-film.html

Published: 6:14PM BST 02 Jun 2009


The amazing CCTV footage comes from the Israeli Railroad Company and shows crossing in northern Isreal.

On Sunday the woman, circled in red, approached the tracks and a railway guard to the right of the screen tried to signal to her. She then appeared to lie down on the tracks as a high-speed train hurtles over her for several seconds.

Incredibly after the train passed, she appeared to get up and walk away.

The footage was broadcast on the Israeli TV network Channel 2. According to the station, police later caught up with the woman and escorted her to a local hospital were she received minor medical treatment for bruising to the head, and then was moved to psychiatric hospital in Northern Israel for further evaluation.



wow thats pretty stunning. i wonder if she was glad that it didnt go as planned.

[hawk]

Its almost as if at a split second before the train hits her, she throws up her hands as if she changed her mind but it was too late.
If I were the train operator I would have been sick. You know it tore his nerves up when it happened.

[redman]

Not exactly todays news is it.


If I wanted to see this shit then I'd just go and visit one of the gore sites.