US, Koreas prepare for peninsula war...

[real6]

The start of WWIII?

http://www.prisonplanet.com/us-koreas-prepare-for-peninsula-war.html

South Korean and US troops go on higher alert amid Pyongyang’s threats of ‘a powerful strike’ and growing fears of a full-scale war in the peninsula.

“As of 7:15 am Thursday (2215 GMT Wednesday), the US-South Korea Combined Forces Command upgraded Watch Conditions by a notch to Stage Two,” Seoul’s Defense Ministry said in a statement released on Thursday.

“Surveillance over the North will be stepped up, with more aircraft and personnel mobilized,” AFP quoted spokesman Won Tae-Jae as saying.

The remarks come in response to North Korea’s Wednesday announcement, saying it was withdrawing from the armistice that ended the 1950-53 Korean War.

The North also warned that it could launch a military offensive on the South as it faced further pressure over test-firing an atomic bomb for the second time on Monday.

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Following the test fire, Seoul said it planned to join the US-led Proliferation Security Initiative (PSI), which is aimed at halting shipments of weapons technology.

The decision enraged the North which said it would respond to “any tiny hostile acts…, including the stopping and searching of our peaceful vessels,” with a strong military strike.

Responding to the threats, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned North Korea against “provocative and belligerent” and highlighted the US firm commitment to the armistice and defending South Korea and Japan — both in easy range of North Korean missiles.

White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said Pyongyang’s angry rhetoric will only aggravate its isolation, and that the peace has held despite the North’s repeated threats to end the truce.

Nearly 28,500 US troops remain stationed in South Korea in what Washington calls a deterrent force against Pyongyang.

Won said the surveillance step-up — the fourth since 1982 — to stage two would be focused along the borderline Demilitarized Zone, the Joint Security Area at Panmunjom village and the disputed Yellow Sea border of Northern Limit Line.

He added the tight defense measure was aimed at preventing the North’s military provocations, vowing “the military will deal sternly with provocative acts.”

[guuna]

No chance of any war. The US and UK simply don't have the spare troops at the moment.

nice for them to crank up the old fear factor though.

[void]

The start of WWIII?

Well we get this every few weeks on here whenever something kicks off somewhere.

[realy]

"One strike, two purposes


This difficult decision to make a nuclear first strike was arrived at because the threat of North Korea invading South Korea once hostilities resume was too great a danger to world stability. The world does not need or want another large, lengthy war.


The decision to use a nuclear first strike serves another purpose as well: sending a clear message to countries like Pakistan, India and Iran about what they can expect if they continue traveling down the nuclear road.


The thinking in Washington, Beijing and Moscow is that the world needs to send this message and there will not be a better reason or better time to send it than now."




http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/war/bushs_north_korea_war/news.php?q=1243532445

:confused:this seems serious right now.

[onourwayto2012]

This makes me sick.......absolute insanity.....

Sources with acute knowledge of the plans for North Korea have confirmed to TRN that a US nuclear first strike is going to be launched.

The first strike will be carried out through submarine-launched, BGM-109 Tomahawk cruise missiles, model TLAM/A whose explosive payload can be "dialed" to be anywhere from 100 kilotons to one point five megatons nuclear yield per missile.

There will be no warning. North Korea will not be able to track the incoming cruise missiles via radar. The only way they will know the attack is taking place is when they see a blinding white flash as the temperature rises to ten thousand degrees and the wind gusts to 650 miles per hour.

North Korean troops along the Demilitarized Zone (DMZ) will be hit first to prevent them from invading south Korea. Multiple cruise missiles using Time of Arrival (TOA) control will detonate simultaneously along the DMZ, wiping out over one million North Korean troops in seconds.

Minutes later, after the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) confirms that the North Korean leadership has been told by their own command structure that their troops at the DMZ have all been killed, Kim Jung Il will be contacted and asked if he is willing to surrender. It is expected he will not.

At that point, a B-2 Stealth Bomber will be sent in to deliver the final blow. Pyongyang will be hit with a surface detonation of a massive nuclear bomb, wiping out the entire city and the entire government of North Korea.

As soon as that surface detonation takes place, several hundred additional cruise missiles carrying conventional payloads and launched from land, air and sea sites, will hit every North Korean military facility in the entire country, instantly crippling their entire command and control system. Carrier based Aircraft will then fly in to clean up whatever resistance remains.

It is expected the war will be over within one or two days. Korea will be reunited. It's Capitol will be Seoul and its government will be democratically elected.

[cafetimes1991]

Wow.

[cafetimes1991]

I'm not saying I don't believe you, onourwayto2012. On the contrary, what you posted sort of resonates with me. Do you have any links where I can read more, or maybe you could post more for us? Thanks!

[bealert]

The start of WWIII?

http://www.prisonplanet.com/us-koreas-prepare-for-peninsula-war.html

South Korean and US troops go on higher alert amid Pyongyang’s threats of ‘a powerful strike’ and growing fears of a full-scale war in the peninsula.

“As of 7:15 am Thursday (2215 GMT Wednesday), the US-South Korea Combined Forces Command upgraded Watch Conditions by a notch to Stage Two,” Seoul’s Defense Ministry said in a statement released on Thursday.

“Surveillance over the North will be stepped up, with more aircraft and personnel mobilized,” AFP quoted spokesman Won Tae-Jae as saying.

The remarks come in response to North Korea’s Wednesday announcement, saying it was withdrawing from the armistice that ended the 1950-53 Korean War.

The North also warned that it could launch a military offensive on the South as it faced further pressure over test-firing an atomic bomb for the second time on Monday.

(ARTICLE CONTINUES BELOW)

US, Koreas prepare for peninsula war 250509BANNER

Following the test fire, Seoul said it planned to join the US-led Proliferation Security Initiative (PSI), which is aimed at halting shipments of weapons technology.

The decision enraged the North which said it would respond to “any tiny hostile acts…, including the stopping and searching of our peaceful vessels,” with a strong military strike.

Responding to the threats, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned North Korea against “provocative and belligerent” and highlighted the US firm commitment to the armistice and defending South Korea and Japan — both in easy range of North Korean missiles.

White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said Pyongyang’s angry rhetoric will only aggravate its isolation, and that the peace has held despite the North’s repeated threats to end the truce.

Nearly 28,500 US troops remain stationed in South Korea in what Washington calls a deterrent force against Pyongyang.

Won said the surveillance step-up — the fourth since 1982 — to stage two would be focused along the borderline Demilitarized Zone, the Joint Security Area at Panmunjom village and the disputed Yellow Sea border of Northern Limit Line.

He added the tight defense measure was aimed at preventing the North’s military provocations, vowing “the military will deal sternly with provocative acts.”
Only a mad man would use nuclear weapons knowing what the consequence would be. If North Korea were to use nuclear weapons the Americans would respond like wise. North Korea is flexing its muscles nothing else.

[neomagic]

This makes me sick.......absolute insanity.....

Sources with acute knowledge of the plans for North Korea have confirmed to TRN that a US nuclear first strike is going to be launched.

The first strike will be carried out through submarine-launched, BGM-109 Tomahawk cruise missiles, model TLAM/A whose explosive payload can be "dialed" to be anywhere from 100 kilotons to one point five megatons nuclear yield per missile.

There will be no warning. North Korea will not be able to track the incoming cruise missiles via radar. The only way they will know the attack is taking place is when they see a blinding white flash as the temperature rises to ten thousand degrees and the wind gusts to 650 miles per hour.

North Korean troops along the Demilitarized Zone (DMZ) will be hit first to prevent them from invading south Korea. Multiple cruise missiles using Time of Arrival (TOA) control will detonate simultaneously along the DMZ, wiping out over one million North Korean troops in seconds.

Minutes later, after the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) confirms that the North Korean leadership has been told by their own command structure that their troops at the DMZ have all been killed, Kim Jung Il will be contacted and asked if he is willing to surrender. It is expected he will not.

At that point, a B-2 Stealth Bomber will be sent in to deliver the final blow. Pyongyang will be hit with a surface detonation of a massive nuclear bomb, wiping out the entire city and the entire government of North Korea.

As soon as that surface detonation takes place, several hundred additional cruise missiles carrying conventional payloads and launched from land, air and sea sites, will hit every North Korean military facility in the entire country, instantly crippling their entire command and control system. Carrier based Aircraft will then fly in to clean up whatever resistance remains.

It is expected the war will be over within one or two days. Korea will be reunited. It's Capitol will be Seoul and its government will be democratically elected.

Sounds a tad extreme to me.

[onourwayto2012]

I'm not saying I don't believe you, onourwayto2012. On the contrary, what you posted sort of resonates with me. Do you have any links where I can read more, or maybe you could post more for us? Thanks!

It's the fourwinds link right above my post.
Yeah......it's a TAD extreme

[cafetimes1991]

It's the fourwinds link right above my post.
Yeah......it's a TAD extreme

Voops.

[bealert]

The start of WWIII?

http://www.prisonplanet.com/us-koreas-prepare-for-peninsula-war.html

South Korean and US troops go on higher alert amid Pyongyang’s threats of ‘a powerful strike’ and growing fears of a full-scale war in the peninsula.

“As of 7:15 am Thursday (2215 GMT Wednesday), the US-South Korea Combined Forces Command upgraded Watch Conditions by a notch to Stage Two,” Seoul’s Defense Ministry said in a statement released on Thursday.

“Surveillance over the North will be stepped up, with more aircraft and personnel mobilized,” AFP quoted spokesman Won Tae-Jae as saying.

The remarks come in response to North Korea’s Wednesday announcement, saying it was withdrawing from the armistice that ended the 1950-53 Korean War.

The North also warned that it could launch a military offensive on the South as it faced further pressure over test-firing an atomic bomb for the second time on Monday.

(ARTICLE CONTINUES BELOW)

US, Koreas prepare for peninsula war 250509BANNER

Following the test fire, Seoul said it planned to join the US-led Proliferation Security Initiative (PSI), which is aimed at halting shipments of weapons technology.

The decision enraged the North which said it would respond to “any tiny hostile acts…, including the stopping and searching of our peaceful vessels,” with a strong military strike.

Responding to the threats, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned North Korea against “provocative and belligerent” and highlighted the US firm commitment to the armistice and defending South Korea and Japan — both in easy range of North Korean missiles.

White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said Pyongyang’s angry rhetoric will only aggravate its isolation, and that the peace has held despite the North’s repeated threats to end the truce.

Nearly 28,500 US troops remain stationed in South Korea in what Washington calls a deterrent force against Pyongyang.

Won said the surveillance step-up — the fourth since 1982 — to stage two would be focused along the borderline Demilitarized Zone, the Joint Security Area at Panmunjom village and the disputed Yellow Sea border of Northern Limit Line.

He added the tight defense measure was aimed at preventing the North’s military provocations, vowing “the military will deal sternly with provocative acts.”
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=96397&sectionid=351020405

doubts about nuclear test

[kappy0405]

No chance of any war. The US and UK simply don't have the spare troops at the moment.

nice for them to crank up the old fear factor though.

why do you say that? I was under the belief that only around 15% of our (US) troops are stationed overseas.. and that's not even accounting for the 800,000 or so soldiers in reserve units..

[cafetimes1991]

Okay, here's the article in full, as unbelievable as it seems:

May 27,2009
Washington, DC (TRN) -- North Korea yesterday withdrew from the Armistice that halted the Korean War. Today, official Washington is abuzz with not so secret "Top Secret" plans for the United States to make a limited nuclear first strike to wipe out the North Korean threat in one fell swoop.
Russia has been alerted to "make plans" for radiation fallout in its eastern border area.
In consultations with China, the U.S. Ambassador to Beijing was said to be stunned when he was told by the Chinese government "Kim Jung Il is out of control and dangerous. He has become a serious liability for China. Do what must be done, but please do it in a manner that minimizes risk to China."
China was then briefed about US plans and asked to prepare its southern population areas for radiation fallout. It is expected that prevailing weather patterns will disperse fallout over the sea, causing it to thin out dramatically before moving over land.
Worst development since World War 2
Our source in the State Department explained today why this situation got so bad, so fast. "The Korean War legally never ended." he said. "There is no peace treaty, there is only an Armistice, a formal cease-fire. When North Korea officially withdrew from the Armistice yesterday, it automatically brought us back into a hot war. "he continued.
Speaking on condition of anonymity because he is not authorized to speak to the media, the high ranking state department source told Turner Radio Network (TRN):
"Of all the scenarios involving North Korea, withdrawing from the Armistice was the one thing we thought they never would do. Since the War, everyone has known that withdrawing from the Armistice means the cease-fire is over. Today, that cease fire is over; we are back at war with North Korea and this time, the outcome will not be negotiated. Withdrawing from the Armistice was the last mistake North Korea will ever make. Their leadership must surrender now or they are nothing more than dead men walking. It's over for them" he finished.
Pentagon: Nuclear first strike "Likely"
Early in the evening on Tuesday, President Barack Obama gave permission for the US Military to airlift "Patriot Missile Air Defense" systems to South Korea and additional units to bolster 16 systems already in Japan. Those systems were airborne hours later and arrived in South Korea and Japan today.
The model of Patriot Missile systems sent is "PAC-3" and they were accompanied by M-901 control stations and AN/MPQ-53 phased array radar.
Sources with acute knowledge of the plans for North Korea have confirmed to TRN that a US nuclear first strike is going to be launched.
The first strike will be carried out through submarine-launched, BGM-109 Tomahawk cruise missiles, model TLAM/A whose explosive payload can be "dialed" to be anywhere from 100 kilotons to one point five megatons nuclear yield per missile.
There will be no warning. North Korea will not be able to track the incoming cruise missiles via radar. The only way they will know the attack is taking place is when they see a blinding white flash as the temperature rises to ten thousand degrees and the wind gusts to 650 miles per hour.
North Korean troops along the Demilitarized Zone (DMZ) will be hit first to prevent them from invading south Korea. Multiple cruise missiles using Time of Arrival (TOA) control will detonate simultaneously along the DMZ, wiping out over one million North Korean troops in seconds.
Minutes later, after the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) confirms that the North Korean leadership has been told by their own command structure that their troops at the DMZ have all been killed, Kim Jung Il will be contacted and asked if he is willing to surrender. It is expected he will not.
At that point, a B-2 Stealth Bomber will be sent in to deliver the final blow. Pyongyang will be hit with a surface detonation of a massive nuclear bomb, wiping out the entire city and the entire government of North Korea.
As soon as that surface detonation takes place, several hundred additional cruise missiles carrying conventional payloads and launched from land, air and sea sites, will hit every North Korean military facility in the entire country, instantly crippling their entire command and control system. Carrier based Aircraft will then fly in to clean up whatever resistance remains.
It is expected the war will be over within one or two days. Korea will be reunited. It's Capitol will be Seoul and its government will be democratically elected.
One strike, two purposes
This difficult decision to make a nuclear first strike was arrived at because the threat of North Korea invading South Korea once hostilities resume was too great a danger to world stability. The world does not need or want another large, lengthy war.
The decision to use a nuclear first strike serves another purpose as well: sending a clear message to countries like Pakistan, India and Iran about what they can expect if they continue traveling down the nuclear road.
The thinking in Washington, Beijing and Moscow is that the world needs to send this message and there will not be a better reason or better time to send it than now.
Additional details on tonight "Hal Turner Show" airing from 9:00 - 11:00 PM eastern U.S. time (GMT -0400) tonight, Wednesday 27 May 2009 .,
Tune-in free by clicking the LISTEN LIVE logos at the top left of this blog
http://TurnerRadioNetwork.blogspot.com

[resistance]

It's highly unlikely that anything will come of this, let alone any nukes being used, it's just more doomsday talk that will lead to nothing.
There's no point in worrying over all of this shit in Korea, I mean even if a nuclear war did happen, what could we do about it and where would we all run too anyway??
I seriously doubt if nuclear war is high up on the list of options for the PTB, they're going to take the worlds populations down slowly, in the next 30-50 years by covert means i.e GM foods, sterilisation, disease, famine ete etc (while becoming richer and more powerfull in the process).
Why would they want to risk destroying the earth's natural balance with a nuclear holocaust, if they plan on inheriting it for themselves? I can't see it myself, maybe i'm wrong.. but thats just my take on things.

[realy]

the world isnt as static as tptb wish nor would it ever be, dont support there arrogant cause by thinking that they dont make mistakes, or that they wont lose. more related articles:

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0%2C7340%2CL-3722339%2C00.html

http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/6893/2/

[realy]

It's highly unlikely that anything will come of this, let alone any nukes being used, it's just more doomsday talk that will lead to nothing.
There's no point in worrying over all of this shit in Korea, I mean even if a nuclear war did happen, what could we do about it and where would we all run too anyway??
I seriously doubt if nuclear war is high up on the list of options for the PTB, they're going to take the worlds populations down slowly, in the next 30-50 years by covert means i.e GM foods, sterilisation, disease, famine ete etc (while becoming richer and more powerfull in the process).
Why would they want to risk destroying the earth's natural balance with a nuclear holocaust, if they plan on inheriting it for themselves? I can't see it myself, maybe i'm wrong.. but thats just my take on things.

they have bulit the underground bunkers and cities for more reasons than one, but nuclear war is one of the main ones.

[onourwayto2012]

It's highly unlikely that anything will come of this, let alone any nukes being used, it's just more doomsday talk that will lead to nothing.
There's no point in worrying over all of this shit in Korea, I mean even if a nuclear war did happen, what could we do about it and where would we all run too anyway??
I seriously doubt if nuclear war is high up on the list of options for the PTB, they're going to take the worlds populations down slowly, in the next 30-50 years by covert means i.e GM foods, sterilisation, disease, famine ete etc (while becoming richer and more powerfull in the process).
Why would they want to risk destroying the earth's natural balance with a nuclear holocaust, if they plan on inheriting it for themselves? I can't see it myself, maybe i'm wrong.. but thats just my take on things.
While you may be right about nothing coming of these, my point about it making me sick was the fact that they have these horrific scenarios all planned out and how obliterating an entire country is dealt with in such a matter of fact way.

[resistance]

the world isnt as static as tptb wish nor would it ever be, dont support there arrogant cause by thinking that they dont make mistakes, or that they wont lose. more related articles:

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0%2C7340%2CL-3722339%2C00.html

http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/6893/2/

Maybe so? and i'm sure that they do make mistakes (I never said they didn't)
and in the end I believe that they will loose, but that's in the future and this is now. The elite have gained imense wealth and power and own at least 3/4ths of the worlds resources, so I would say that how things stand at the momment things are pretty much going to plan for them, give or take the odd setback which is bound to happen with such a big (idea).

[resistance]

While you may be right about nothing coming of these, my point about it making me sick was the fact that they have these horrific scenarios all planned out and how obliterating an entire country is dealt with in such a matter of fact way.

Oh yer totally, we are dealing with utter psychopaths here at the top level and further down the hierarchy structure, who wouldn't and don't think twice about wipeing out billions. My point is , they don't favour useing nuclear weapons.

[simonlove]

I say thank God for Trident missiles. We are very lucky that the UK has its own nuclear deterrent. I believe the USA & UK should move all their nuclear missile submarines to the sea of Japan, then tell the knob-head leader of North Korea - "Anymore bullshit out of you and you'll be nuked immediately".

Thank God we've got bigger and better nuclear weapons than the North Koreans...

[neomagic]

I say thank God for Trident missiles. We are very lucky that the UK has its own nuclear deterrent. I believe the USA & UK should move all their nuclear missile submarines to the sea of Japan, then tell the knob-head leader of North Korea - "Anymore bullshit out of you and you'll be nuked immediately".

Thank God we've got bigger and better nuclear weapons than the North Koreans...

Can't say I agree with any of that to be honest.

[1977]

Welp, we're fucked.

[resistance]

I say thank God for Trident missiles. We are very lucky that the UK has its own nuclear deterrent. I believe the USA & UK should move all their nuclear missile submarines to the sea of Japan, then tell the knob-head leader of North Korea - "Anymore bullshit out of you and you'll be nuked immediately".

Thank God we've got bigger and better nuclear weapons than the North Koreans...

Yes of coarse now I get it, without the good ol atom bomb we would all be fucked, that good ol nuke keeping the peace hey...yu are joking right??

[decim]

http://macedoniaonline.eu/images/defcon.gif

Sources close to MiNa claim the US Army has moved their alert level to Defcon 2. This was initiated by the alarming situation in North Korea. The US Army has over 35,000 troops stationed in South Korea, well within reach of North Korean convential weapons.

North Korea has the largest artillery force (can be equipped with nuclear warheads) in the world, which adds more to the already tense situation.

Earlier today, N. Korea's leader Kim Jong issued threaths to the South Korean and US Navy ships for coming too close to North Korea's territorial waters. The South Koreans and the Americans, may be positioning themselves for a preemptive strike.

What is DEFCON?

The defense readiness condition (DEFCON) is a measure of the activation and readiness level of the United States Armed Forces. It describes progressive postures for use between the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the commanders of unified commands. DEFCONs are matched to the situations of military severity.

Standard peacetime protocol is DEFCON 5, descending in increasingly severe situations. DEFCON 1 represents expectation of actual imminent attack, and is not known to have ever been declared. During the Cold War, DEFCON 1 was feared because it would most likely precede an all-out nuclear war.

In a national state of emergency, seven different alert conditions known as LERTCONs can be issued. They consist of five Defense Conditions and two Emergency Conditions (EMERGCONs).

DEFCON 5
This is the condition used to designate normal peacetime military readiness. An upgrade in military preparedness is typically made by the Joint Chiefs of Staff and announced by the United States Secretary of Defense.

DEFCON 4
This refers to normal, increased intelligence and the heightening of national security measures.

DEFCON 3
This refers to an increase to force readiness above normal. Radio call signs used by American forces change to currently classified call signs. This was reached after 9/11.

DEFCON 2
This refers to a further increase in force readiness just below maximum readiness. The most notable time it was declared was during the Cuban Missile Crisis, although the declaration was limited to Strategic Air Command. It is not certain how many times this level of readiness has been reached.

DEFCON 1
This refers to maximum readiness. It is not certain whether this has ever been used, but it is reserved for imminent or ongoing attack on US military forces or US territory by a foreign military power.

http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/6893/2/

[guuna]

why do you say that? I was under the belief that only around 15% of our (US) troops are stationed overseas.. and that's not even accounting for the 800,000 or so soldiers in reserve units..

We are constantly told over here in the UK anyways, that the armed forces are at full stretch dealing with the insurgencies in Iraq and Afghanistan, from what I have gathered the situation is similar for US forces.(although there has, obviously been a large permanent US garrison along the Korean 38th parrallel since the end of hostilities there in the early fifties(detterant)

Problems seem to flair up in the korean penninsula from time to time. I don't beleive this one will amount to anything serious.

[cheeney1]

No chance of any war. The US and UK simply don't have the spare troops at the moment.

nice for them to crank up the old fear factor though.

Bullshit ,Conscript you Lot , Bring back The Draft . National Lottery Pull your Birthdays out of a Barrel , In The Army Now.. Don't Worry The Provost Marshalls will take could care of you, a bullet in the Front or a Bullet in the Back your Choice :rolleyes:

[rhydra]

Both sides are going to huff and puff then it will be business as usual.

[romas]

It's highly unlikely that anything will come of this, let alone any nukes being used, it's just more doomsday talk that will lead to nothing.
There's no point in worrying over all of this shit in Korea, I mean even if a nuclear war did happen, what could we do about it and where would we all run too anyway??
I seriously doubt if nuclear war is high up on the list of options for the PTB, they're going to take the worlds populations down slowly, in the next 30-50 years by covert means i.e GM foods, sterilisation, disease, famine ete etc (while becoming richer and more powerfull in the process).
Why would they want to risk destroying the earth's natural balance with a nuclear holocaust, if they plan on inheriting it for themselves? I can't see it myself, maybe i'm wrong.. but thats just my take on things.


I agree, supposedly there is an all encompassing group of rules though, they might use unconventional nuclear weapons, such as neutron bombs with lesser environmental deterioration