EU parties want traffic sex ban

[real6]

http://politiken.dk/newsinenglish/article720397.ece

Candidates for the EU elections are calling for a ban on sex with trafficked prostitutes.
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Several candidates for Danish parties running in the EU elections on June 7 want to make it as criminal to have sex with trafficked prostitutes as it is to steal a B&O audio system from the back of a lorry.

“It is a crime to abuse women who are kept prisoner. The customer goes in like a man and comes out as a rapist,” says Social Democratic candidate Britta Thomsen.

Denmark does not have a law preventing sex with trafficked women or other prostitutes. A trafficked woman picked up by the police can be given a three-month residence permit if she cooperates in finding those behind trafficking. If not, she is deported.

EU legislation is less strict. Trafficked women have the right to remain in a country for three months irrespective of whether they cooperate with police.

New law
New proposals are on their way from the European Commission to the European Parliament which would criminalise the purchase of sexual services from trafficked women.

“We will be working for this. These women are simply modern slaves,” says Thomsen.

The Socialist People’s and the Social-Liberal parties say they too will be working to have customers of trafficked women criminalised.

“The only way to stop this is to go for the customers. As long as we maintain a market, the kingpins of the trade will continue to force these women into having sex,” says Socialist People’s Party Margrethe Auken.

Opt-outs
Irrespective of whether the EU adopts such a ban, Denmark would not be forced to accede to it, as the country has an opt-out to legal cooperation within the EU.

“We have wanted to get rid of this opt-out for a long time as EU legislation is much better for women. So the opt-out should be lifted as soon as possible,” Auken says.

[anthony65]

Reading between the lines...

“It is a crime to abuse women who are kept prisoner. The customer goes in like a man and comes out as a rapist,” says Social Democratic candidate Britta Thomsen.

and

“The only way to stop this is to go for the customers. As long as we maintain a market, the kingpins of the trade will continue to force these women into having sex,” says Socialist People’s Party Margrethe Auken.

equals...

Men who are caught visiting these prostitutes will be treated as rapists...

How this helps the women involved?

While the pimps and and the mafia continue to ply their trade...

[ronisron]

If there's no demand, the supply will dwindle. Sexual Prostitution in any form is sad business.

There seems to be a rush to make as many criminals, in as many ways as possible -- jail = slave labor.

[oneup]

Men who are caught visiting these prostitutes will be treated as rapists...

And they should be.

[anthony65]

If there's no demand, the supply will dwindle. Sexual Prostitution in any form is sad business.

There seems to be a rush to make as many criminals, in as many ways as possible -- jail = slave labor.

More criminals yes...

Dwindling supply?

Prohibition comes to mind.

If anything they'll push it underground into even seedier conditions..

The question is... Why not go for the traffickers of the trafficked women?

And the use of language here makes you think that they really want to hammer any customers "rapists" they find.

[anthony65]

And they should be.

You don't think they're approaching this from the wrong side?

Like the ban on legally held guns in the UK that didn't lead to less guns, but more guns in the hands of criminals...

Treating these men as rapists is not going to help these women, or stop the men who are trafficking them and really raping them?

[anthony65]

Something else that stands out here...

New law
New proposals are on their way from the European Commission to the European Parliament which would criminalise the purchase of sexual services from trafficked women.

and

Opt-outs
Irrespective of whether the EU adopts such a ban, Denmark would not be forced to accede to it, as the country has an opt-out to legal cooperation within the EU.

and

“We have wanted to get rid of this opt-out for a long time as EU legislation is much better for women. So the opt-out should be lifted as soon as possible,” Auken says.

Put them all together and you have the following...

Human trafficking is a terrible business.

Everybody agree?

Yes.

Okay, well the EU have come up with a tough new law but Denmark's opt-out condition prevents it becoming valid in Denmark.

So, because everyone deplores human trafficking, Denmark should scrap the opt-out clause as soon as possible, which means that Denmark will tow the line to Brussels just like all the other countries.

[pinkgrapefruit]

“The only way to stop this is to go for the customers. As long as we maintain a market, the kingpins of the trade will continue to force these women into having sex,” says Socialist People’s Party Margrethe Auken.

This is just another crime to add to the million other offences that can be commited in the EU.

There are more 'Customers' than 'Traffickers' so it stands to reason that to "go for the customers" will produce far more criminals for the system than a few pimps.

[anthony65]

Who feels that racism is deplorable?

Well, to stamp out racism, the EU Commission is proposing new laws to be presented to the EU Parliament, a democratic body elected by the European peoples, that would make racist actions, words, behaviour and even the intent to commit racism as serious crimes.

Serious crimes because racism is a serious issue.

The EU aims to stamp out racism within the EU and the tough new laws will carry penalties of up to 10 years for a first time offence and life imprisonment for repeat offenders.

It is planned to extend the racism legislation to other areas such as gender and religion.

Although Denmark is not obliged to enact the new legislation, Margharete Svensson of the Socialist Women's Domination party said that Denmark should transfer it's remaining democratic powers to Brussels because they know best. Although Ms Svensson acknowledged that a European Parliament was itself ingherently racist and she believes that the future lies in a globally elected democratic body, elected by the people, for the people and of the people, with the people without the people and up the people.

The New World Order is the answer to our prayers said Ms Svensson, who was dressed in a red leather domina costume complete with face mask and whip to show her solidarity with Dominas in Distress, an organization dedicated to finding replacement sex slaves for Domina's who have flayed their slaves to death. All those who died gave their consent she stressed as she flicked out her whip and struck a smarting blow across the buttocks of the Danish Finance Minister Gunna Cumssoon...

[alzee]

Didn't they already introduce this 'law' in the UK?

I'm sure that not long after they announced legal brothels, they introduced a law as per the OP.

[anthony65]

Didn't they already introduce this 'law' in the UK?

I'm sure that not long after they announced legal brothels, they introduced a law as per the OP.

It's not so much the "law" that is interesting here, but the bits of information between the lines, the use of language, the target of the law, the origin of the law, the use of emotive topics to get Denmark to give up its opt-out clause, etc.

Did nobody read my post number 9? :(

:cool:

[dreamweaver]

I do see what anthony's getting at.

About 12 years ago, when the internet was a much wilder, freer place than it is today, governments passed new laws to give themselves more power to control the internet.

The reason they wanted these powers, they said, was to clamp down on paedophiles. And if anyone opposed the government having these powers, then of course they must be in favour of paedophiles.

Just as they say that anyone who opposes 56-day detention must be a terrorist or that if you have nothing to hide, you've nothing to fear...

It's the same old emotive smokescreen to cover their true intentions. As with any stage conjurer, ignore the rhetoric - watch what their hands are doing...

[anthony65]

I do see what anthony's getting at.

About 12 years ago, when the internet was a much wilder, freer place than it is today, governments passed new laws to give themselves more power to control the internet.

The reason they wanted these powers, they said, was to clamp down on paedophiles. And if anyone opposed the government having these powers, then of course they must be in favour of paedophiles.

Just as they say that anyone who opposes 56-day detention must be a terrorist or that if you have nothing to hide, you've nothing to fear...

It's the same old emotive smokescreen to cover their true intentions. As with any stage conjurer, ignore the rhetoric - watch what their hands are doing...

Smoker's bans are another example of legislation out of control.

I can't stand smoke, but the way they've criminalized smokers in the past few years is ridiculous.

Today on teh train, there was a woman checking the tickets with a fervour that was frightening. You could sense her thirst for a victim.

More and more people are being made into criminals!

[dreamweaver]

Smoker's bans are another example of legislation out of control.

I can't stand smoke, but the way they've criminalized smokers in the past few years is ridiculous.

Today on teh train, there was a woman checking the tickets with a fervour that was frightening. You could sense her thirst for a victim.

More and more people are being made into criminals!

Agree on all of this. It's the growth of all these new ways of criminalising people, as well as the recruitment of over-zealous jobsworths to enforce these laws, that made me pay attention to what DI was saying in the first place. All the ingredients are there for an Orwellian state, it's already started.

[ronisron]

The courts will have to clamp down on all this "criminal activity" sooner or later... they're just going to overload the system too quickly. There aren't enough jails. Dick Cheney and Albert Gonzalez are two examples of "people" who make money off of privately owned jails. Inmates make hospital and airline food, do laundry for hotels, restaurants and hospitals, make tools and machine parts, clean up roadside trash areas.... all for pennies a day in wages. It's a great scam.

As for prostitution and illegal traficked trade, the biggest beneficiaries and proponenets are always the elite. Will they be susceptible to the same rules and laws?? If the Jersey home (those kids.... that is sickening...) and places like that are any indication, the answer is NO. There are still places in Asia and South America where children are bought and sold daily... there are some sick, shitty people in this world. If there is to be a human cull, sex traffickers and their profiteers should be part of it.