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chandrakavi
24-07-2007, 11:09 AM
I see the awareness about the NWO has been raised in english speaking countries. In Latin America nothing is known about it, if someone mentions
the NWO is is looked as strange since none of this is in any book, David Icke's books are not any bookstore, television never mentions this ,nor the newspapers, and only a samall elite of people that are latin Americans that speak english well, have been able to read the information.

But then again THIS IS PRECISELY WHAT THE ILLUMINATI WANT, ignorance over the many by the few. It's not about being FOR or AGAINST THIS, people simply don't know. And having people in the dark with no knowing of this, makes life easier for the Illuminati, not the people in these countries.
Millions of people live in each Country if you simply add the population of each one, TOO MANY PEOPLE DESINFORMED. David Icke has not been translated to spanish and the rest of languages. Has been to Japane, Chinese, Portuguese, as JulieRay a friend from the Forum has said, David Icke should be translated TO ALL LANGUAGES, and we are running against time.

It would also be interesting if the forum could be in English, spanish, and other languages.

Also that David ICke's DVDs have an option of subtitles to the language you choose.

I have talked to some friends about this, but after that ,for them there is no Forum, nothing to keep in contact day to day, at the most THE DA VINCI CODE was translated to spanish ,so when I speak about this , they believe I liked that book and are touching about the subject.

E-books would be a good solution, and there are a lot of computer solutions that can be given to this, not having to have money blocking the way.

I understand, those who speak english feel its not their problem, but think again, if millions of people HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT THIS ,and only a privileged few do, then WHO IS WINNING THE GAME OF MIS-INFORMATION?

People feel strange things are happening ,but can't understand why,
they look for answers on the media, but naturally the media won't give it to them ,and not allow themselves to be criticised.

One can only talk to all the people ,and expect them to wake other people ,although there is nothing to read ,or videos to watch in their language, some don't find it too unreal once they listen well ,specially those who are strongly into one or another type of politics. But this has to be more than just a conversation piece after lunch that you can forget easily.

Here the Illuminati RULE, as David Icke as said In THE BIGGEST SECRET,
" A PERSON WHO THINKS HE IS FREE WILL NOT COMPLAINT THAT HE IS NOT",
because you don't rebel against something you don't know exists.
Even people who do have this information don't believe it, or misunderstand it, or find it looney, what to say of those who cannot have an opinion.
Defenitly TV will never do that.

There are none nor will there be panels on this.
One can only hope for some miracle to happen
but I don't see it coming for those who are blocked by a language barrier,
IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE WORLD. This is not a local thing,
every one has to get on the ball.

I would appreciate some feed-back on this

Infinite love to ALL

sheartemis
24-07-2007, 10:04 PM
One of the reasons might be that English speaking countries play the leading role implementing the NWO. It comes only naturally that they were to expose it first. :D

I come from a country where English is taught at schools as a forign language. Still, there are many people who do not speak English or any other foreign language. On the other hand, there is a topic about David Icke on every decent forum, his books are being translated (The Biggest Secret), he was interviewed in one of the popular programmes about the edge sciences, that interview (translated for the programme) can be found to download (together with many other material, which I probably should not be saying, but – the word is being spread);) on many sites accross the ex-Yu internet. I found myself extremely interesting stuff.

I am not saying anything but there is a group (not coordinated, not conducted from a source, not paid, not anything...) who enthusiastically work on the same idea. It might be the case that they do not even mention or do mention sporadically David Icke, but they are about the same or common „spirit“. If you ask around, the majority would either not know at all or say he is a fruitcake. Still as it has always been and always will be – there is something and there are some that have managed to avoid (or be spared) and there are those who are seekers for answers, who feel, who are not (entirely) programmed...

Yes, the language barrier is a serious issue. Many are not privileged to use the internet, to read books or to get in touch in any way with what we are talking about here. We – who are privileged have to deal with various barriers too.

Yes, this is what the Illuminati want. But they are not getting it. :D
This is so important. We should not be afraid nor worried. Just do what we have to do. They might not here David Icke's word – they might here someone else's simple sentence which will open a little window somewhere and they will see better. When the time comes, they might understand much quicker and better. Who knows – we all have our paths. What I am saying is not that God works in mysterious ways,:D what I am saying is – the forces are there and they support people like us, too.

The Illuminati (or whoever, whatever) in their greed, blodthirsty cruel arrogancy – miss something crucial. A little man. Ordinary people. Working class. So called, that is – never mind, these are just words (although they may be very powerful). Poor people, illiterate people, their slaves, their food, the ones they treat with so much arrogance they even do not see them as living beings, the ones that the Illuminati treat and consider either food or garbage – will cost them the hell a lot. This is where they will fall. This is the force they really really need to be scared of. The time will come.

Of course, it would be great to translate the works of David Icke and many more authors like him in as many languages as possible – and do it fast (somehow I feel the internet will not stay as free as it is now for much longer, but that is all another issue). We should support that. All I wanted to point out is that – the time will come. Everybody has their role and their experiences to go through – their path to walk. Even those – especially those – who might be and are treated and considered as the weak, forgotten, unprivileged, poor. Because, when they come out – the world will shake. This is the force that will cost Illuminati (or whoever, whatever) thier illuminated shit, no matter what the situation may look like now.

hagbard_celine
24-07-2007, 11:08 PM
I'd like to see David's books translated into every minority language in the world! A get a warm, fuzzy feeling in my soul whenever I hear that someone can't speak English. I'm from a Welsh-speaking family in Wales, yet my dad was born in Bristol and never spoke it. I had to learn it as a foreign language and feel I've been robbed of my brithright by... yes, I'll say it: lingustic genocide!

Apart from whales and dolphins, humans are probably the only known species on Earth which uses complex spoken languages. It gives us an enormous ability to analyze, exchange ideas, explore and cogitate about the universe; exactly the opposite of what the Illuminati want us to do.

There are about 4000 languages spoken in the world today. That might sound like a lot, but if you go back only to the 17th Century there were more than 15,000! So more than 2/3 of human languages have died out in the last 300 years and most of them have perished on the sword of English:mad:. It gets worse! Of the 4000 survivors, over 99% of people in the world speak only the top 100 most widely-spoken of those languages. It means that 3800 of today's languages are under threat. These include Gaelic in this country. My own ancestral tongue, Welsh, came very close to extinction during the early 20th Century.

I think that the Illuminati plan is to have just a handful of languages in the NWO; English, Chinese and maybe one more, Spanish or Hindi perhaps. but these languages would not be the rich, creative vehicles of thought and expression that Shakespeare and Li Po used. No they would all be degenerated into a basic, plastic verbal instruction code for practical daily purposes only; in other words Orwell's "Newspeak". English would be reduced to a vocabulary of about 2000 simple words; and they probably wouldn't be words as we know them, but 3-letter codes. The grammar would be regularized, e.g.: the strong past participle of verbs like "run" would become "runned" rather than the natural English "ran". The conditional tense would probably be removed altogether.

So by speaking natural language (and translating books into them) you are fighting back against the Illuminati in a very important way. If you speak a minority ancestral language then use it! That's good advice for myself; I'll work hard to better my Welsh and keep in contact with my Welsh family.

chandrakavi
25-07-2007, 12:16 AM
It is true the English speaking countries living the Illuminate farse, have exposed it first.

Another thing is that ENGLISH has become the WORLD LANGUAGE, the language one uses in business. There are more countries in the world that speak Spanish for example, but they are not world power countries , all required to know English, so the governments can do trade and business, and because the USA is a world power. If China comes to be a Business power, many people will learn Chinese. Chinese Mandarin, the Chinese business language is being taught in Latin America to kids from Basics and high School, as the possible business language of the future. I don't know if it will be so, but they are preparing for that eventuality. At any rate I know nothing of the Chinese language, but the idea is strong.

It is absolutly right that the Illuminati can get strong surprises from very simple people ,not the almighty powerful alla the time ,since they are the working force of any country, and they have to know about the NWO, either by word of mouth,
passing this way the information, not everyone has access to internet, as it has been said, some can't read, BUT THEY CAN LISTEN,somewhere in some part of the world someone will show them a video of David Icke, or something that speaks about the world order, and make them take concience of it.

Most likely ENGLISH will be the language of the NWO, it already is the world language, ahs been for a long time, it is a beautiful language, hope they keep it as it is and don't make it basic, it would be a crime.

In one way or another, in non-english speaking countries, through tv and commercials, much slang penetrates ,so in some time it will be easy to penetrate the mentality, and chagne the language to a coming generation easily. They haven't been able to do so yet, because all countries have different customs, natives that preserve their traditions, and this stops tttthem in their plan so far.

I love rock and Roll, but realize that it is also used as a tool for this, wetheer people realize it or not, people want to know what the lyrics of the songs say, and look up the words in non-english speaking countries, this is a way of LEARNING ENGLISH ,slowly but surely. I wouldn't mind having english as a world language ,but what matters is that NOW the information does not spread to everyone, the best books of everything are written in english, and people get to read that, ONLY if a specific book IS TRANSLATED, if it isn't the information is lost, or arrives too late. This way things are kept in a click, an elite who know the language, and millions who don't are left out.

This has been going on for years and centuries ,so here the Illuminati have their Haven.

Variety is always good ,as long as freedom of opportunity is not lost on the way.

Thank you all for your feed-back:)

synergy777
25-07-2007, 05:08 PM
hagard you should know your mother language, good on you. but to say hindi, asian languages which there are loads are not beautiful is utter hogwash. arabic, hindi, etc have very rich vocabularies, look at asian poetry, we have words in which their is no english equivalent. even the form of the letters is poetic. look at hindi, arabic letters, its artistic, calligraphy. we were writing books in vedic sanskrit over 15,000 years ago.

quelyn
25-07-2007, 11:57 PM
I see the awareness about the NWO has been raised in english speaking countries. In Latin America nothing is known about it, if someone mentions
the NWO is is looked as strange since none of this is in any book, David Icke's books are not any bookstore, television never mentions this ,nor the newspapers, and only a samall elite of people that are latin Americans that speak english well, have been able to read the information.

But then again THIS IS PRECISELY WHAT THE ILLUMINATI WANT, ignorance over the many by the few. It's not about being FOR or AGAINST THIS, people simply don't know. And having people in the dark with no knowing of this, makes life easier for the Illuminati, not the people in these countries.
Millions of people live in each Country if you simply add the population of each one, TOO MANY PEOPLE DESINFORMED. David Icke has not been translated to spanish and the rest of languages. Has been to Japane, Chinese, Portuguese, as JulieRay a friend from the Forum has said, David Icke should be translated TO ALL LANGUAGES, and we are running against time.

It would also be interesting if the forum could be in English, spanish, and other languages.

Also that David ICke's DVDs have an option of subtitles to the language you choose.

I have talked to some friends about this, but after that ,for them there is no Forum, nothing to keep in contact day to day, at the most THE DA VINCI CODE was translated to spanish ,so when I speak about this , they believe I liked that book and are touching about the subject.

E-books would be a good solution, and there are a lot of computer solutions that can be given to this, not having to have money blocking the way.

I understand, those who speak english feel its not their problem, but think again, if millions of people HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT THIS ,and only a privileged few do, then WHO IS WINNING THE GAME OF MIS-INFORMATION?

People feel strange things are happening ,but can't understand why,
they look for answers on the media, but naturally the media won't give it to them ,and not allow themselves to be criticised.

One can only talk to all the people ,and expect them to wake other people ,although there is nothing to read ,or videos to watch in their language, some don't find it too unreal once they listen well ,specially those who are strongly into one or another type of politics. But this has to be more than just a conversation piece after lunch that you can forget easily.

Here the Illuminati RULE, as David Icke as said In THE BIGGEST SECRET,
" A PERSON WHO THINKS HE IS FREE WILL NOT COMPLAINT THAT HE IS NOT",
because you don't rebel against something you don't know exists.
Even people who do have this information don't believe it, or misunderstand it, or find it looney, what to say of those who cannot have an opinion.
Defenitly TV will never do that.

There are none nor will there be panels on this.
One can only hope for some miracle to happen
but I don't see it coming for those who are blocked by a language barrier,
IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE WORLD. This is not a local thing,
every one has to get on the ball.

I would appreciate some feed-back on this

Infinite love to ALL
YES, good on all this! Hoping this happens very soon!
However, what about the poor countries and all the people that can't read in ANY language???????
DVD's translated in ALL languages or subtitles? Perhaps

chandrakavi
26-07-2007, 12:34 AM
Here in my Country when the news are on TV, in some channels, not all, to the right side of the screen is small square with a woman doing the silent language translation with hands, for those who are deaf, can't read and know this language. A law was passed so this could happen.

I suppose some people who are illiterate simply won't be able to reach the information, unless someone tells them speaking about it, and I don't know if they'll believe it even so, Even literate people don't believe it, sounds like science-fiction if you have never heard of this before, if it doesn't come out on TV, people won't believe it, if they see it on TV, it means to many, that it is AUTHORIZED, and it is so, to many if they saw it on TV IT IS TRUE. And I doubt it ever will, unless someone shows something of this, and is willing to loose his job on TV,
like it has happened very few times, sometimes.

But to the reading population, if the information comes to them in their language, all languages, they can make up their minds about it ,others will have read about it and have an opinion about it, but no information--no opinion,
it is that simple.

But the truth gets eventually where it has to go, and we don't know about it. DVDs translated to ALL languages would be an excellent move. Also doubling the voice to different languages ,so the eye does not get distracted in reading the subtitle's letters and can SEE and HEAR
the DVD live in their language, like it happens in english now.

We have to MAKE THE TRUTH AVAILABLE to all, and give it a hand.:)

chandrakavi
26-07-2007, 09:05 AM
After all we are all interconected. It is not a matter of taking care only of the part of the world where you live, it has to do with ALL of us.

december
06-08-2007, 10:54 PM
I see the awareness about the NWO has been raised in english speaking countries. In Latin America nothing is known about it, if someone mentions....

The Illuminati run US and EU ONLY, so the rest of the world simply don't care what's going on in these Zionist countries...

cruise4
07-08-2007, 01:18 AM
"The Illuminati run US and EU ONLY"

As deluded as ever:D

hagbard_celine
07-08-2007, 08:38 AM
hagard you should know your mother language, good on you. but to say hindi, asian languages which there are loads are not beautiful is utter hogwash. arabic, hindi, etc have very rich vocabularies, look at asian poetry, we have words in which their is no english equivalent. even the form of the letters is poetic. look at hindi, arabic letters, its artistic, calligraphy. we were writing books in vedic sanskrit over 15,000 years ago.


I didn't say they're not beautiful. I think natural langauges are all beautiful. I said that the Illuminati want to deaden them and strip them down through Newspeak.

aboriginees
16-08-2007, 12:13 PM
I wanted to help to translate David Icke's website to Polish, i called them to offer my help, but no one was interested. :confused:
If someone changes his mind just let me know, through PM on this forum.

geronimo
04-09-2007, 08:19 PM
I think that the Illuminati plan is to have just a handful of languages in the NWO; English, Chinese and maybe one more, Spanish or Hindi perhaps. but these languages would not be the rich, creative vehicles of thought and expression that Shakespeare and Li Po used. No they would all be degenerated into a basic, plastic verbal instruction code for practical daily purposes only; in other words Orwell's "Newspeak". English would be reduced to a vocabulary of about 2000 simple words; and they probably wouldn't be words as we know them, but 3-letter codes. The grammar would be regularized, e.g.: the strong past participle of verbs like "run" would become "runned" rather than the natural English "ran". The conditional tense would probably be removed altogether.

So by speaking natural language (and translating books into them) you are fighting back against the Illuminati in a very important way. If you speak a minority ancestral language then use it! That's good advice for myself; I'll work hard to better my Welsh and keep in contact with my Welsh family.

Spot on, Hagbard. A couple of things I have noticed; people in the bus, on the street, particularly young people, seem to be mumbling a lot. There are vague, sweeping terms such as 'he was like....' she was going like ....(meaning she was talking, coming from a point of view, several things or nothing at all) Isn't this the reduction of language, devolving, if you like, from a rich vocabulary to a limited set of 'trendy' buzzwords, jargon with no particular meaning - another tendency is to rush out very superficial comments about nothing in particular, at incredible speed, so that when you have figured out the gist of the conversation, you realise it's utterly banal. And they always seem to be grasping a mobile phone in the left hand, with wires coming out of their ears.
Sometimes I see people clasping the mobile to their left ear, when there is no specific conversation taking place, just a constant infusion of radiation into the brain. Yum.
In 40's and 50's films, they spoke with great clarity, fast, yes, but coherently, with a strong sense of individual persona. Now we have a dumbed-down, ipodded baggy-trouser brigade that can hardly speak at all, mainly because their eardrums are being constantly battered with 'muzak' wherever they go. Coherence has gone down the toilet, people text each other trivially in preference to speaking, books are getting read less and less often, dvds, the sit-down-and-switch-it on multimedia experience has nullified the richness of the written word and with it, TV destroys the ability of the brain to visualise, create, and think independently, actually reducing intelligence - a situation exacerbated by fast food, aspartame, MSG, flouride in the water, aluminium in toothpaste and increasing electromagnetic, microwave pollution, all of which suits the Illuminati jolly nicely.
OK I'm straying from the point , but what I meant to say was, you're right! we'll have the Euro, we'll probably have the Amero after the North American Union which the media says doesn't exist, so 'Newspeak' in some form is a certainty, how about 'Babel', 'Babble', i.e., incoherent gibberish, seems to be popular already.
It seems to me that degeneration and dumbing-down in language is occurring without any efforts to impose it, (not that efforts won't be made!) and this sadly reflects a declining mental, emotional, and physical state of the general population who are led to believe - falsely - that they have no power to effect change or the communicative skills to exercise it, existing, instead, in a kind of insulated bubble where nothing happens, except TV, soaps, and so on.

geronimo

hagbard_celine
06-09-2007, 08:50 AM
Spot on, Hagbard. A couple of things I have noticed; people in the bus, on the street, particularly young people, seem to be mumbling a lot. There are vague, sweeping terms such as 'he was like....' she was going like ....(meaning she was talking, coming from a point of view, several things or nothing at all) Isn't this the reduction of language, devolving, if you like, from a rich vocabulary to a limited set of 'trendy' buzzwords, jargon with no particular meaning - another tendency is to rush out very superficial comments about nothing in particular, at incredible speed, so that when you have figured out the gist of the conversation, you realise it's utterly banal. And they always seem to be grasping a mobile phone in the left hand, with wires coming out of their ears.
Sometimes I see people clasping the mobile to their left ear, when there is no specific conversation taking place, just a constant infusion of radiation into the brain. Yum.
In 40's and 50's films, they spoke with great clarity, fast, yes, but coherently, with a strong sense of individual persona. Now we have a dumbed-down, ipodded baggy-trouser brigade that can hardly speak at all, mainly because their eardrums are being constantly battered with 'muzak' wherever they go. Coherence has gone down the toilet, people text each other trivially in preference to speaking, books are getting read less and less often, dvds, the sit-down-and-switch-it on multimedia experience has nullified the richness of the written word and with it, TV destroys the ability of the brain to visualise, create, and think independently, actually reducing intelligence - a situation exacerbated by fast food, aspartame, MSG, flouride in the water, aluminium in toothpaste and increasing electromagnetic, microwave pollution, all of which suits the Illuminati jolly nicely.
OK I'm straying from the point , but what I meant to say was, you're right! we'll have the Euro, we'll probably have the Amero after the North American Union which the media says doesn't exist, so 'Newspeak' in some form is a certainty, how about 'Babel', 'Babble', i.e., incoherent gibberish, seems to be popular already.
It seems to me that degeneration and dumbing-down in language is occurring without any efforts to impose it, (not that efforts won't be made!) and this sadly reflects a declining mental, emotional, and physical state of the general population who are led to believe - falsely - that they have no power to effect change or the communicative skills to exercise it, existing, instead, in a kind of insulated bubble where nothing happens, except TV, soaps, and so on.

geronimo


Yes and what you describe is being promoted by the media as admirable and celebrities who use that kind of language and lifestyle are put on a pedastal. I'm thinking particularly of David Backham and Jade Goody who have been given status and presented role models. Luckily the comedy series "Little Britain" has come to our aid by lampooning them with their character Vicky Pollard.

I'm not an advocate of "King's English" as I said above. I love the variety of accents and dialects spoken around the world, but where in the past young people would speak their own accents more broadly, the individual accents are being replaced with this almost universal "speedpyke". It's defnitely a deliberate dumbimg down ploy; a Newspeak for teenagers.

geronimo
15-09-2007, 05:26 PM
Yes and what you describe is being promoted by the media as admirable and celebrities who use that kind of language and lifestyle are put on a pedastal. I'm thinking particularly of David Backham and Jade Goody who have been given status and presented role models. Luckily the comedy series "Little Britain" has come to our aid by lampooning them with their character Vicky Pollard.

I'm not an advocate of "King's English" as I said above. I love the variety of accents and dialects spoken around the world, but where in the past young people would speak their own accents more broadly, the individual accents are being replaced with this almost universal "speedpyke". It's defnitely a deliberate dumbimg down ploy; a Newspeak for teenagers.

'Texting' on mobiles has reached fever pitch and I watch in dismay as some of my best friends bounce each other juvenile nonsense back and forth obsessively, not knowing when to call it a day, and, young children, unaware of the radiation risks they are exposing their brains to, wave their phones around like lollipops. TV has also displaced interpersonal communication with a somnabulistic, mesmerised trance. As for celebrities, that's another obsession, the magazines are everywhere, the hype is endless, and everyone is pouring over the most superficial trivia of these wretched people's lives as if it were the most crucial matter in the entire universe. Aliens visiting this planet must think we are a bunch of brain-dead idiots...

geronimo

chandrakavi
06-10-2007, 09:53 PM
'Texting' on mobiles has reached fever pitch and I watch in dismay as some of my best friends bounce each other juvenile nonsense back and forth obsessively, not knowing when to call it a day, and, young children, unaware of the radiation risks they are exposing their brains to, wave their phones around like lollipops. TV has also displaced interpersonal communication with a somnabulistic, mesmerised trance. As for celebrities, that's another obsession, the magazines are everywhere, the hype is endless, and everyone is pouring over the most superficial trivia of these wretched people's lives as if it were the most crucial matter in the entire universe. Aliens visiting this planet must think we are a bunch of brain-dead idiots...

geronimo

Everyone is doing it....therefore it must be right
"The minority is always right"---NIETZSCHE