Why does my vision suck?

[cleft_asunder]

Ever since I was a kid I've had to wear glasses. I had to sit in front of the class to see the board, and currently I have a very strong prescription. The worst thing about it is that glasses destroy your vision--they are like a guarantee that you're going to be blind in the futture. The Illuminati totally control optomitry, so what that means is that anything that works to improve your vision is suppressed.

So does anyone know REAL reason to poor vision and REAL cures?

[william_mac]

Ever since I was a kid I've had to wear glasses. I had to sit in front of the class to see the board, and currently I have a very strong prescription. The worst thing about it is that glasses destroy your vision--they are like a guarantee that you're going to be blind in the futture. The Illuminati totally control optomitry, so what that means is that anything that works to improve your vision is suppressed.

So does anyone know REAL reason to poor vision and REAL cures?

I would assume something to stimulate blood flow, particularly in that area, and widen blood vessels. Or something that promotes cell growth and blood vessels to continue to widen and spread further.

Laser eye surgery doesn't sound bad either.

I am in no way a doctor, or even doctor like person, but I do quite a lot of drugs and I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night with a French hooker.

Hope this helps.



-William

[Anders Lindman]

I would assume something to stimulate blood flow, particularly in that area, and widen blood vessels. Or something that promotes cell growth and blood vessels to continue to widen and spread further.

Laser eye surgery doesn't sound bad either.

I am in no way a doctor, or even doctor like person, but I do quite a lot of drugs and I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night with a French hooker.

Hope this helps.



-William

I remember hearing about (I could remember wrong so these things have to be verified):...

That even scientists themselves now say that laser surgery will make people's sight dim when they get older. Experiments have shown that when the cells on the eye grow back again on the eyes that has been polished by laser, the growth is uneven and causes the surface to become milky white or something like that.

I believe with the right belief system, the cells on the eyes that has been treated by laser will grow correctly, but modifying belief systems enough on a deep subconscious level is difficult it seems. Bruce Lipton says that Psych-K and treatments like that are efficient and can change subconscious beliefs system very quickly, but I'm skeptical about such quick solutions, even though I know that my own skepticism itself can be a hinder.

Another thing scientists have changed their mind about is that reading in dim light is dangerous for the eyes. Now they say the opposite is true, that reading in dim light trains the eyes to become better.

[cleft_asunder]

It helps a little. It gives me some material to jerk off to.:(

[william_mac]

I remember hearing about (I could remember wrong so these things have to be verified):...

That even scientists themselves now say that laser surgery will make people's sight dim when they get older. Experiments have shown that when the cells on the eye grow back again on the eyes that has been polished by laser, the growth is uneven and causes the surface to become milky white or something like that.

I believe with the right belief system, the cells on the eyes that has been treated by laser will grow correctly, but modifying belief systems enough on a deep subconscious level is difficult it seems. Bruce Lipton says that Psych-K and treatments like that are efficient and can change subconscious beliefs system very quickly, but I'm skeptical about such quick solutions, even though I know that my own skepticism itself can be a hinder.

Another thing scientists have changed their mind about is that reading in dim light is dangerous for the eyes. Now they say the opposite is true, that reading in dim light trains the eyes to become better.

Concerning the dim light thing: amen. All my life I kept being told to turn on more lights, and that I was going to ruin my eyesite, and I would always think to myself "it seems like this would make my eye site better".

You can't trust scientist, and it's never really good to listen to them verbatim without personal research, or just not giving a fuck.

There was this jazz keyboardist that I spoke to one time as he took a break. He was sort of a short guy. A sixty-five year old black dude form New Orleans. I was out smoking a cigarette with him, and somehow we migrated to scientist saying various things are dangerous, then saying the opposite a few years later. Then we started talking about smoking, and he said to me "You know son, It's the fear that kills you. People want to eat all the right stuff, drink all the right things, take all the right pills, exersise all the right ways, but where does that get you? They're just scared, scared of dying, scared of living life to the fullest. I've been smokin' these here cigarettes since I've been 12, and I ain't never gave a second thought to them, and I ain't never bought into all that shit. It's the fear that kills you, not the things you do, just the fear"

I've always told people about that. And it's true, it lined up with what I thought. That sort of goes along with the thought process you were talking about.



-William

[_invisibleplane_]

I've come across some interesting stuff related to sungazing during sunrise/set to help vision...eating a lot of beta carotene maybe?

[Anders Lindman]

Concerning the dim light thing: amen. All my life I kept being told to turn on more lights, and that I was going to ruin my eyesite, and I would always think to myself "it seems like this would make my eye site better".


I will try to find some articles about this.

About the laser surgery: I did a quick web search and found for example:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/category/story.cfm?c_id=204&ObjectID=10412475

And even and older article about some other dangers:

http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/1999/02/18/lasereye990218.html

[Anders Lindman]

I've come across some interesting stuff related to sungazing during sunrise/set to help vision...eating a lot of beta carotene maybe?

Correct nutrition is probably needed. Another important thing needed is I think to hold the muscles in, behind and around they eyes relaxed. Not too limp, nor too strained, but a balanced relaxed state. Tensions in muscles, fascia, blood vessels etc in and around the eyes - caused by emotional stress and other things - surely must make their shape distorted.

[orgo knight]

Carrots are good for the eyesight.But you'd have to eat a ton. If you have an electric juicer at home try juicing organic carrots mixed with some apple and ginger.The juice is absorbed easily without the body having to burn up energy digesting. You will feel shit loads better also :)

[lookfar]

Ever since I was a kid I've had to wear glasses. I had to sit in front of the class to see the board, and currently I have a very strong prescription. The worst thing about it is that glasses destroy your vision--they are like a guarantee that you're going to be blind in the futture. The Illuminati totally control optomitry, so what that means is that anything that works to improve your vision is suppressed.

So does anyone know REAL reason to poor vision and REAL cures?

Hey cleft, I can fully sympathise with ya here.

I was born with bad eyes (hereditary cataracts) & have the same problem. I'd be really lost without my contact lenses, they're a godsend to me.

I've also been wondering about the suppression of correction techniques, as things have moved on leaps & bounds over the last 30 years, but still feel that the available options are very limited :confused:

Good thread & I'm interested in what others have to say about it too...

I am in no way a doctor, or even doctor like person, but I do quite a lot of drugs and I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night with a French hooker.

William mac, that line just cracked me up, LOL!!:D ;)

[limelady]

Dr Mercola is a trusted natural health doctor. Here is a link
to his site and a technique he touts as very effective for
improving your vision.


The Natural Eyesight Habits Program (http://www.mercola.com/forms/seminars/teleclinic/vision/indexdl.htm)

LL :)
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/2499/lovelimeoa6.jpg

[Anders Lindman]

I've also been wondering about the suppression of correction techniques, as things have moved on leaps & bounds over the last 30 years, but still feel that the available options are very limited :confused:


There is probably more money to make from contact lenses than from correction techniques, and even if someone tried to promote correction techniques they would quickly be crushed by a big-profit-interest boot.

I wonder if one's eyes could become better just by changing belief system. I suspect that it could be possible.

[notaslave]

I heard about this years ago and to me it seems like the right way to fix your eyesight problems. I havent tried it though and I need to wear reading specs.

It was a method pioneered by a Master Bates (following on from a previous posting in this subject!) Here it is .....

Dr. W. H. Bates, a New York ophthalmologist, is considered the pioneer of vision training. In the early 1900s, he developed the Bates Method for vision improvement which focuses on breathing, relaxation, memory, imagination and eye drills. In over thirty years of research, he showed that vision defects are usually the result of functional problems that can be overcome, and not permanent flaws in the shape of the eye. His work was not accepted by most ophthalmologists.

Vision Training: Improving Your Eyesight

Improving vision starts with specific exercises including the following: head movements to loosen the neck area and relax the mind; swinging your torso from side to side while looking between your two outstretched arms; placing your palms over your eyes for relaxation; near and far focusing; blinking; blinking into sunlight; scanning; stretching the eye muscles; crossing your eyes; breathing; acupressure (for more information, see earlier part of this section) and non-staring. Visual aids such as glasses and contacts should be removed for at least a few hours a day so that the eyes have an opportunity to function naturally and regenerate.

Eye patches are also used to stimulate perception and peripheral vision. Rate of improvement depends on the effort you put into the program and the severity of your vision deficiency. Be patient and relax–emotional strain will also affect your vision.

Vision Exercises

Here are a few simple vision training exercises you can use for your own self-help. Palm your eyes after these exercises to relax the eyes.

Strain from Close Work and Reading

* Changing Focus Distance: Frequently look away from your work to an object in the distance.

* Near and Far: Shift focus between a near object and a far object several times.

* Blinking: Blink every three seconds.

* Crossing Eyes: Cross your eyes by focusing on an object that you bring to touch the bridge of your nose.

* Scanning: Move your eyes quickly to different objects within your visual field.

Tension

* Palming: Rub palms together and place over your closed eyes, but not touching your eyes, to block all light and relax for a couple of minutes. When you are completely relaxed, you should see pure black.

* Neck Stretch: Stretch your head down to the chest. Repeat ten or more times.

* Side-to-Side Neck Stretch: Stretch the head sideways to look over one shoulder then look over the other shoulder. Repeat ten or more times.

Stimulating

* Up-and-Down Eye Stretches: Keep head still and without straining look up and then down. Repeat three times.

* Side-to-Side Eye Stretches: Keep head still and without straining look left and right. Repeat three times.

* Left-to-Right Diagonal Eye Stretches: Keep head still and without straining look up and to the left and then down and to the right. Repeat three times.

* Right-to-Left Diagonal Eye Stretches: Keep head still and without straining look up and to the right and then down and to the left. Repeat three times.

* Crossing Eyes: Cross your eyes, by focusing on an object that you bring to touch the bridge of your nose.

What Can I Do?

When your eyes are tired, give them a break and stimulate them with some vision exercises. Take time to relax by breathing and stretching. Avoid looking sideways to prevent straining the eyes. Instead, move your head to look directly at what you want to see. When reading, use a 100-watt light source behind you and keep your work directly in front of you. A healthy lifestyle including exercise, proper nutrition, natural light and relaxation is also important

[Anders Lindman]

"Can Reading in the Dark Damage Your Eyes?
Most ophthalmologists say that while reading in the dark might strain your eyes and give you a headache, the age-old maternal warning about damaging your eyes is largely unfounded. Some argue that simply reading for prolonged periods as a child or young adult may contribute to the eyesight decline later in life, but genetic research shows that it is family history above all else that determines to what extent your vision will weaken.
As Reported by The New York Times"

From: http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/539178

[cleft_asunder]

Thanks for all the help, especially the Bates thing.

[cleft_asunder]

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[cleft_asunder]

Dr Mercola is a trusted natural health doctor. Here is a link
to his site and a technique he touts as very effective for
improving your vision.


The Natural Eyesight Habits Program (http://www.mercola.com/forms/seminars/teleclinic/vision/indexdl.htm)

LL :)
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/2499/lovelimeoa6.jpg

Thanks for the link, but you don't want to pay 396 dollars for info you can get at a fraction of the price. This guy is just trying to make loads of cash.

[davelove]

Ever since I was a kid I've had to wear glasses. I had to sit in front of the class to see the board, and currently I have a very strong prescription. The worst thing about it is that glasses destroy your vision--they are like a guarantee that you're going to be blind in the futture. The Illuminati totally control optomitry, so what that means is that anything that works to improve your vision is suppressed.

So does anyone know REAL reason to poor vision and REAL cures?

eye sight has been improved with hypnosis. shown on paul mckenna on his tv show in uk, 2 years ago. perhaps this may be of assistance

[roxanna222]

Find a good hypnotherapist, to quote my dearest friend, "did not jesus heal the blind man?"

You can find tips via the web on how to find a good hypno. Good luck with it and by the way cheaper then the laser option.

[chester]

Hi - about 20 years ago (I am now 50) I had to get glasses. I had to get new ones every few years. In 2003 I got my last script. I finally started to hardly ever wear them. Something in my gut told me that by wearing them i was making things worse.

Funny thing is that nothing has changed now in 4 years. why would I have needed a new perscription every year or so and now, even though my vision is not the greatest, because I stopped wearing the galsses, my level seems to have stablized?

I also had another strange thought... i noticed that i don't get distracted by the sense of sight like I used to but my intuition seems to have risen. I walk around at night with a good sense of where things are and without bumping into stuff... I just seem to know. weird, huh?

[Anders Lindman]

http://www.amazon.com/Relearning-See-Improve-Eyesight-Naturally/dp/1556433417/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-3254196-8122319?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1185319988&sr=1-1

That looks like an interesting book. I definitely think that many eyesight problems are related to strained or atrophied muscles etc in, behind and around the eyes.

[Anders Lindman]

Hi - about 20 years ago (I am now 50) I had to get glasses. I had to get new ones every few years. In 2003 I got my last script. I finally started to hardly ever wear them. Something in my gut told me that by wearing them i was making things worse.

Funny thing is that nothing has changed now in 4 years. why would I have needed a new perscription every year or so and now, even though my vision is not the greatest, because I stopped wearing the galsses, my level seems to have stablized?

I also had another strange thought... i noticed that i don't get distracted by the sense of sight like I used to but my intuition seems to have risen. I walk around at night with a good sense of where things are and without bumping into stuff... I just seem to know. weird, huh?

I believe that the eyesight can even become better, not just stabilized, with right practice or method. I will try it on myself and just try to reprogram my mind to believe that my eyesight will become better, and see what happens.

[magicmerlin]

Do you eat a high carbohydrate diet? Sugar/insulin attack the nerves in the eye. Leutin may also help your eye sight, as will natural anti-oxidants.