Moscow vs London

[december]

In Symbolism...


The Coat of Arms of Moscow depicts a horseman with a spear in his hand slaying a dragon. The horseman is often informally identified with Saint George. The heraldic emblem of Moscow has been an integral part of the Coat of Arms of Russia since the 16th century. Its three colours – blue, red, and white – are believed to have inspired the colours of the Flag of Russia.

The emblem had its origins in a Byzantine tradition of depicting a patron saint of the ruling monarch on his seal and coins. Yaroslav the Wise was the first Russian ruler whose patron saint was Saint George. Accordingly, he built several cities and churches in the name of that saint.

Saint George was also the patron saint of his great grandson, Yury Dolgoruky, who founded the city of Moscow. Yury is thought to have honored his patron saint on his coins which represent a standing warrior holding a sword in his right hand.

Coat of arms of Moscow - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


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Coat of arms of the City of London

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http://wcp.sdf-eu.org/photos/dragon.png

http://www.stereoscopicsociety.org.uk/images/Comp2007/Cooper_LondonCityDragon.jpg

http://z.about.com/d/golondon/1/0/5/E/-/-/dragon.jpg

[december]

...and in life...

It seems like the Dragon has lost its mind.... :D


Russia demands evidence in Litvinenko case

25/ 07/ 2007

MOSCOW, July 25 (RIA Novosti) - The Russian Prosecutor General's Office has not yet received a single document in the Alexander Litvinenko murder case from Britain, a senior investigator said Wednesday.

In an interview with the daily Rossiiskaya Gazeta to be published Thursday, Andrei Mayorov said: "We have not received a single document in the Litvinenko case. Technically, we do not even know what he died of, as unfortunately, we have received all our information about the Polonium-210 poisoning from so-called open sources."

In early July, Russian prosecutors formally refused to extradite former Kremlin bodyguard-turned-businessman Andrei Lugovoi, accused by the U.K. of fatally poisoning former Russian security officer and Kremlin critic Litvinenko in London last November, citing the Constitution.

Mayorov told the paper that Britain's extradition request contained general conclusions lacking proof, and that Britain had not yet provided the results of its Litvinenko probe.

Reiterating earlier statements on the matter from Russian officials, Mayorov said in the request that Scotland Yard emphasized the political rather than the legal aspects of the case. "A huge part of the document was devoted to what they call the history of Litvinenko's struggle against allegedly illegal activities of the FSB [Federal Security Service]," he said.

British Prime Minister Gordon Brown earlier denied his country was politicizing the Litvinenko case. "We cannot tolerate a situation where all the evidence is that not only was one person assassinated but many other people were put at risk," he said.

A row over the murder has led to Britain expelling four Russian diplomats last week and announcing visa restrictions for Russian officials and similar measures from Moscow.

President Vladimir Putin said Tuesday Britain's demand that Russia extradite Lugovoi and amend its Constitution to this end showed the country retained a colonialist mentality, the remarks, which will likely to heighten the row.

"What they are proposing is obviously a vestige of colonial thinking," Putin said at a meeting with youth organizations at the presidential residence in Zavidovo, about 120 kilometers (75 miles) northwest of Moscow.

Putin said London was still harboring 30 people wanted in Russia on grave charges, including tycoon Boris Berezovsky, accused of massive fraud and plotting a coup in Russia, and Chechen emissary Akhmed Zakayev, considered a terrorist by Moscow. Russia's repeated requests for their extradition have been rejected by London.

"They do not extradite people who are hiding on their territory, including individuals suspected of or charged with terrorist activities, but make serious claims to other countries and give insulting recommendations to change the Constitution," Putin said.

The remarks came following Putin's attempt last week to play down what he called a "mini-crisis" with London, saying he was positive the problems would be resolved.

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20070725/69670195.html

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2006/yir/timeline/images/21.litvinenko.gi.jpg




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U.K. Embassy says visa restrictions in place for Russian officials

25/ 07/ 2007


MOSCOW, July 25 (RIA Novosti) - The British Embassy in Moscow said Wednesday Russian officials would be subject to visa restrictions announced earlier in July amid a row over the Alexander Litvinenko murder case.

Britain expelled four Russian diplomats last week and said it would impose visa restrictions for officials over Moscow's refusal to extradite London's chief suspect in the fatal poisoning of the former FSB officer and British national in London last November.

Press secretary Anjoum Noorani said the embassy had set out the changes made to the visa regulations to the Russian authorities and would not discuss the details in public.

Earlier Wednesday, the Russian Foreign Ministry's official spokesman denied any changes.

"The Foreign Ministry has received requested explanations from the British Embassy in Moscow," Mikhail Kamynin told journalists. "They said no changes had been made [to visa regulations], and that the [new] rules introduced in April are still in effect."

But Kamynin said Russia would treat future visa requests from Britain adequately.

In early July, Russian prosecutors formally refused to extradite former Kremlin bodyguard-turned-businessman Andrei Lugovoi, accused by the U.K. of poisoning former Russian security officer and Kremlin critic Litvinenko with radioactive polonium, citing the Constitution.

Moscow responded to London's measures by expelling British diplomats and promised similar visa restrictions. The countries also suspended cooperation against terrorism.

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20070725/69678059.html

[december]

Russia begins to expel British diplomats (back to their Dragon Land) :)

The head of the British Embassy's economic section was one of four diplomats told to leave Russia in the tit-for-tat diplomatic expulsions that have followed the poisoning of Kremlin critic Alexander Litvinenko in London.

Economic Counsel Andrew Levi is to leave Russia on Sunday, Dow Jones Newswires reported, citing unnamed sources. The report said Levi is one of the four British diplomats sent home in response to Britain's decision to expel four Russian diplomats after Moscow refused to extradite the main suspect in the killing of Litvinenko.

Neither Levi nor his assistant were answering their phones on Thursday.

The embassy press service said it was standard diplomatic practice never to comment on expulsions.

The names of the expelled Russian diplomats have not been made public, so it was unclear whether Russia's expulsion of Levi was a tougher move.

The Moscow Times, the first to report Levi's expulsion, said he had played a major role in negotiations last year over a giant gas project on Russia's Pacific Coast which led to state-controlled gas monopoly Gazrpom buying control from Royal Dutch Shell PLC after months of regulatory pressure.

Gazprom's arrival at the Sakhalin-2 project was seen as part of the Kremlin's push to recapture control of major oil and gas projects.

In June, BP PLC's joint venture in Russia, TNK-BP, agreed to be bought out of the development of another giant gas field by Gazprom. The Kovykta project had also faced considerable pressure from Russia's environmental oversight body.

Despite the cases of Kovykta and Sakhalin-2, economic relations between Russia and Britain are strong. Britain is the second-biggest foreign investor in Russia with a total of US$12 billion invested as of 2006.

http://english.pravda.ru/news/russia/26-07-2007/95320-british_diplomats-0

[december]

Expelled Russian diplomats leave Britain


27/ 07/ 2007




LONDON, July 27 (RIA Novosti) - Four Russian diplomats, expelled by U.K. authorities amid a dispute over the Alexander Litvinenko murder case, have left Britain, a Russian Embassy official said Friday.

"The diplomats mentioned in the British Foreign Office's announcement of the expulsion are no longer in Britain," the official said.

The diplomats were ordered to leave over Moscow's refusal to extradite Andrei Lugovoi, charged in the U.K. with killing former Russian security officer and Kremlin critic Litvinenko in London last November. The diplomats, whose names have not been officially announced, were obliged to leave the U.K. by Friday's deadline.

Russia, which argues that Lugovoi's extradition is impossible under the country's Constitution, responded to Britain's move with similar expulsions. Both countries have also imposed visa restrictions for officials and suspended cooperation against terrorism.

Litvinenko defected to the U.K. in 2000 and received British citizenship shortly before his death. A note purportedly written by him on his deathbed accused President Vladimir Putin of orchestrating his murder, an allegation the Kremlin dismissed as ridiculous.

No official statement on the reasons of Litvinenko's death has been published yet by U.K. authorities, but doctors said traces of radioactive polonium-210 were found in his body.

http://en.rian.ru/world/20070727/69817555.html

THE EMBASSY OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION

IN THE UNITED KINGDOM

http://www.russialink.org.uk/embassy

[synergy777]

st geoge has nothing to with russia, he was a hebrew born in the middle east/turkley, the knights of europe adopted him due to him being christian martyr, borat.

secondly putin and the english elite are all part of the same cabal/cartel, you ignorant fool. are you that deluded that you really think that there are countries and leaders not in the grip of the illuminati. all this theatre is merely setting the stage for their prs/ww3, get back to crayola.

i think you were brainwashed by the kgb, to be the cyber spin doctor aka the russian alistair campbell.

[synergy777]

cheers sensi, blunt time is 4/5 hours away, lol. i enjoy these little skirmishes with december, its been a long time since i had this much fun, lol not like the old days on the old forum, lol.

you have spliff too, one love bro.

[synergy777]

Why? Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth. And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there? Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission. How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror. I know why you did it. I know you were afraid. Who wouldn't be? War, terror, disease. There were a myriad of problems which conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sense. Fear got the best of you

[lifeofbrian]

synergy, ignore the fucker, your just feeding him. light a blunt and enjoy all the other posters on this forum. take care man...:D

He is no more a fucker than you. Who are you by the way?

How many threads of worth have you started on this site?

Shit stirrer.

[december]

He is no more a fucker than you. Who are you by the way?

How many threads of worth have you started on this site?

Shit stirrer.

The question is not who HE is but why does MODERATOR LIMELADY allow him to post hate messages?

[eternal_spirit]

He is no more a fucker than you. Who are you by the way?

How many threads of worth have you started on this site?

Shit stirrer.
......................

fair point, this could be a good thread.

[sensimillia]

He is no more a fucker than you

how would you know?

Who are you by the way?

i´m me, clear?

How many threads of worth have you started on this site?


none, why?

Shit stirrer

you´re a sweetie

fair point, this could be a good thread.

did i say close this thread?

continue your mensa meeting, by all means...:D

[eternal_spirit]

[quote=synergy777;85597]st geoge has nothing to with russia, he was a hebrew born in the middle east/turkley, the knights of europe adopted him due to him being christian martyr, borat.
.....................
George patron saint of England? I remember hearing he was from the middle east a few years ago it was on the News on Tv.
So here in the Uk we have a false Royal family from European bloodlines , possibly originating from even farther a field, obsessed with Egyptian symbology. We have a false patron Saint from Turkey. And to add to our loss of self we have Christianity another foreign religion forced onto us from an early age at school.

Of course whenever the USA with it's Jewish element of Zionism starts a War we have to follow and get involved. This has in the past included saving the so called Holy lands of Jerusalem, which is nothing but a bloodbath of hypocrisy fought by religious fools who think they are God's chosen ones and so do their opposition.

[eternal_spirit]

What the hell are all these dragons symbolic of?

[phoebe]

What the hell are all these dragons symbolic of?

The R-complex in your brain
By which you are able to be 'controlled'

[december]

I see lots of BLAH... BLAH.. BLAH... in this thread...

Are you Brits afraid even to think about the crimes of your government?


Russia demands evidence in Litvinenko case

25/ 07/ 2007

MOSCOW, July 25 (RIA Novosti) - The Russian Prosecutor General's Office has not yet received a single document in the Alexander Litvinenko murder case from Britain, a senior investigator said Wednesday.

In an interview with the daily Rossiiskaya Gazeta to be published Thursday, Andrei Mayorov said: "We have not received a single document in the Litvinenko case. Technically, we do not even know what he died of, as unfortunately, we have received all our information about the Polonium-210 poisoning from so-called open sources."

In early July, Russian prosecutors formally refused to extradite former Kremlin bodyguard-turned-businessman Andrei Lugovoi, accused by the U.K. of fatally poisoning former Russian security officer and Kremlin critic Litvinenko in London last November, citing the Constitution.

Mayorov told the paper that Britain's extradition request contained general conclusions lacking proof, and that Britain had not yet provided the results of its Litvinenko probe.

Reiterating earlier statements on the matter from Russian officials, Mayorov said in the request that Scotland Yard emphasized the political rather than the legal aspects of the case. "A huge part of the document was devoted to what they call the history of Litvinenko's struggle against allegedly illegal activities of the FSB [Federal Security Service]," he said.

British Prime Minister Gordon Brown earlier denied his country was politicizing the Litvinenko case. "We cannot tolerate a situation where all the evidence is that not only was one person assassinated but many other people were put at risk," he said.

A row over the murder has led to Britain expelling four Russian diplomats last week and announcing visa restrictions for Russian officials and similar measures from Moscow.

President Vladimir Putin said Tuesday Britain's demand that Russia extradite Lugovoi and amend its Constitution to this end showed the country retained a colonialist mentality, the remarks, which will likely to heighten the row.

"What they are proposing is obviously a vestige of colonial thinking," Putin said at a meeting with youth organizations at the presidential residence in Zavidovo, about 120 kilometers (75 miles) northwest of Moscow.

Putin said London was still harboring 30 people wanted in Russia on grave charges, including tycoon Boris Berezovsky, accused of massive fraud and plotting a coup in Russia, and Chechen emissary Akhmed Zakayev, considered a terrorist by Moscow. Russia's repeated requests for their extradition have been rejected by London.

"They do not extradite people who are hiding on their territory, including individuals suspected of or charged with terrorist activities, but make serious claims to other countries and give insulting recommendations to change the Constitution," Putin said.

The remarks came following Putin's attempt last week to play down what he called a "mini-crisis" with London, saying he was positive the problems would be resolved.

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20070725/69670195.html

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2006/yir/timeline/images/21.litvinenko.gi.jpg

[december]

Lockerbie and Lugovoi: history repeats itself

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27/ 07/ 2007

MOSCOW. (RIA Novosti political commentator Boris Kaimakov) - Russia and Britain have had a falling out over the murder in London of former Russian spy Alexander Litvinenko, and this is not a quarrel where the two sides can just kiss and make up-that much is now clear.

As usual, diplomats were the first scapegoats. International experience shows that countries usually resolve their differences after similar moves. Occasionally, however, mutual expulsions make the clash even worse.

Television is a good litmus test for the degree of one country's hostility towards another. Russian TV used to treat Britain as an enigmatic country that played host to the Russian Nouveau Riche and, for reasons unknown, harbored controversial tycoon Boris Berezovsky and fugitive Chechen terrorist chieftains. Now, the U.K. is presented as a land of centuries-old Russophobia, where Russians are thought of as savages.

This biased coverage whips up the public's desire for a fight. But anyone can see that demands that Russia amend its Constitution to allow the extradition of its nationals, let alone the proposal for a Berezovsky-Lugovoi extradition barter, are the last thing that will move Moscow and London towards a rapprochement.

Ironically, the Russian-British quarrel coincided with the end of Libya's international isolation. The bombing of a Pan Am airliner on December 21, 1988 killed all 259 passengers and crew and eleven people on the ground in Lockerbie, Scotland, causing public outrage in Britain and the desire to bring the culprits to justice.

The parallel between the two events might be far-fetched-but it might help us understand what's going on and extrapolate from the past tragedy to the current drama to predict how it will develop. When Libya refused to extradite the Lockerbie killers, Britain managed to put pressure on it from all sides. The United Nations introduced economic, political and technical sanctions. Overseas Libyan bank accounts were frozen, diplomatic relations severed, and a trade embargo imposed. The sanctions were finally lifted in 1999, after Libya agreed to extradite the terrorists on condition that they would be tried in a third country-though Britain had been demanding a trial in Scotland from the start.

There is a world of difference between Russia and Libya, but signs of similar pressure are discernible even now. Britain is hinting that it will take tougher steps than the expulsion of diplomats. Long-established educational and cultural exchanges, and a collaborative counterterrorist effort between the two countries' secret services, are threatened. Britain can be expected to impede Russia's accession to the World Trade Organization, according to information leaked from the Foreign Office. Prime Minister Gordon Brown said repeatedly that harsh steps would be taken to put Andrei Lugovoi in the dock.

What might he mean by that? Most probably, Britain will seek to rally the world around measures to pressure Moscow under the banner of delivering a rebuke to state terrorism. Such allegations were made against Russia during the Chechen war-but the accusation was made officially only on rare occasions. The Lugovoi controversy might revive this dispute and justify legal action. If so, Russia will surely fight back by pointing at Berezovsky and Chechen rebel envoy Akhmed Zakayev, whom Britain has refused to extradite-but who will pay attention to such a tired old argument?

Other European countries are not of one mind about the Moscow-London clash, and are trying to walk a line between the two sides. However, their public statements do not necessarily reflect their true opinions, which can be discerned in the harsh words they use to refer to a wide range of problems, from democracy to energy security.

Moscow's response to London is best expressed in three impolite monosyllables: "Fig to you!" Russia can be excused for being provoked. Overwhelmed by emotion, British officials told it to amend its Constitution. The advice was too rash to be insulting. It was reminiscent of a Russian joke: "You can't have a drink on the job, man? Get another job!"

Mutual recriminations will only force both parties into a deadlock. One thing is clear: Lugovoi must go on trial. Bickering has made both countries forget important legal instruments at their disposal, which will clash with the Russian Constitution only if they are misinterpreted. There is a memorandum of understanding on cooperation between the Crown Prosecution Service and the Russian Prosecutor General's Office, which the two agencies signed on November 15, 2006, and which provides for cooperation in extraditions and other forms of mutual legal assistance.

Lugovoi is suspected of a serious crime, and the suspicion is a smear on his country. Even if Russia finds that the accusation does not hold water, it must make use of the legal instruments at its disposal.

Parallel lines never intersect in Euclidean geometry, but they do in Lobachevsky's. Which geometry will Russia and Britain choose?

The opinions expressed in this article are the author's and do not necessarily represent those of RIA Novosti.

http://en.rian.ru/analysis/20070727/69838514.html

[december]

Russia may try Lugovoy if London proves his guilt

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia said on Friday it might launch a criminal case against Andrei Lugovoy, whose extradition Britain is seeking on charges of murdering emigre Alexander Litvinenko, if London provides enough proof of his guilt.

"If we are convinced -- just like them (Britain) -- that this is a serious case, then we have a wealth of precedents when we would launch a criminal case of our own, hold court hearings and read out the verdict," Russian news agencies quoted Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov as saying.
Lavrov, making a stopover in China after a regional conference in the Philippines, said: "If the British side has the proof which convinced them 100 percent of Lugovoy's guilt, then we are ready to receive and study it."

Britain and Russia have each expelled four diplomats in a spat over the murder of Litvinenko, a former Russian security services agent who had become a British citizen.
Britain has demanded Moscow extradite Lugovoy, an ex-KGB bodyguard turned businessman, so that he can be put on trial in London for Litvinenko's murder.
Russia has refused to do so, citing its constitution, which forbids the extradition of Russian citizens.
Moscow's chilly relations with London have been exacerbated by Britain's hosting of anti-Kremlin emigres wanted by Russia.
They include London-based tycoon Boris Berezovsky, who has accused Putin of being behind Litvinenko's murder. The Kremlin has called these allegations nonsense.

Britain has refused to extradite Berezovsky to Moscow.

Asked whether Russia could, theoretically, exchange Lugovoy for Berezovsky, Lavrov replied: "Why on earth? As for Berezovsky, we sent to London all the materials which legally are in line with all extradition requirements."
"As for Lugovoy, we haven't seen such materials."

http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSL0383208120070803?src=080307_1539_DOUBLEFEATUR E_blame_begins

[lumukanda]

He is no more a fucker than you. Who are you by the way?

How many threads of worth have you started on this site?

Shit stirrer.

i've known sensi for ages, he's a good guy.

[sensimillia]

thanks lumukanda, thats very nice of you. i get it you were a memeber on The forum then?:)

[december]

Russia-U.K. diplomatic conflict resolution depends on London - FM

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03/ 08/ 2007

BEIJING, August 3 (RIA Novosti) - A resolution on the current diplomatic conflict between Russia and the United Kingdom, which erupted after the murder of Alexander Litvinenko, depends on Britain, the Russian foreign minister said Friday.

"We are trying to react as reservedly as possible...it is up to British now," Sergei Lavrov said.

After Moscow officially refused in early July to extradite Andrei Lugovoi, accused by Scotland Yard of murdering Litvinenko, tensions escalated, and London expelled four Russian diplomats, a move mirrored by Russia.

Visa restrictions have also been slapped on Russian officials by Britain, and vice versa, and antiterrorism cooperation has been suspended.

http://en.rian.ru/world/20070803/70327715.html

[december]

Russia bans meat imports from U.K. over foot and mouth outbreak

06/ 08/ 2007


MOSCOW, August 6 (RIA Novosti) - Russia's veterinary watchdog has suspended imports of meat products from Britain as of August 6 due to the outbreak of foot and mouth disease in the country, a news release said.

Last Friday, U.K. authorities declared a nationwide ban on the movement of livestock after the virus was discovered on a farm in Guilford, Surrey. Some 120 cattle have been culled since then. The European Union is set to ban all meat and livestock exports from the U.K. within 48 hours if the British government fails to convince the 27-nation bloc that it can contain the highly-contagious disease.

British authorities have established a 3km (1.9-mile) exclusion zone and a 10km (6-mile) surveillance zone round the farm as a precautionary measure.

In the country's last foot and mouth outbreak in 2001, more than six million cattle were culled. Damages were estimated at over 8 billion pounds (over $16 billion).

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20070806/70431368.html

[december]

Are the Brits goofy or what?... :D

Britain unchanged on Lugovoi extradition - ambassador

07/ 08/ 2007


MOSCOW, August 7 (RIA Novosti) - Britain's ambassador to Russia said London intended to have the suspect in the Alexander Litvinenko murder case extradited from Russia, but believed cooperation with Moscow in the case was impossible at the moment.

Moscow officially refused in early July to extradite Andrei Lugovoi, accused by Scotland Yard of killing the ex-Russian security officer and Kremlin critic in London in November. The row has escalated into diplomatic expulsions and harsh rhetoric on both sides.

"A terrible murder has been committed in London. I believe Britain and Russia should cooperate. Unfortunately, such cooperation is impossible at the moment, but we are still expecting Russia to respond," Anthony Brenton said, speaking Russian, on the Ren-TV channel Monday night.

Brenton said Moscow's arguments against the extradition request were unconvincing. Moscow has said the Russian Constitution does not allow the extradition of Russian nationals and complained that Britain has failed to provide evidence substantiating Lugovoi's role in the murder.

Litvinenko was reported to have died of poisoning from radioactive polonium allegedly dropped into his coffee at a London hotel. Lugovoi, former Kremlin bodyguard-turned-businessman, met with him on the day and in the place where the crime is alleged to have occurred.

Asked to comment on the arrest of a Russian in London June 21 on suspicion of plotting to kill fugitive Russian oligarch and Moscow critic Boris Berezovsky, and his release without charge and deportation two days later, Brenton said he was not "an expert on the matter."

The anchorman asked why the evidence garnered by police was not enough to charge the Russian national, but enough to fan a scandal in the media.

"Thank God, I am not responsible for what our press says," Brenton said. He also said Britain had handed over material on the case to Russia, but gave no further details.

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20070807/70509680.html




Russia demands evidence in Litvinenko case

25/ 07/ 2007

MOSCOW, July 25 (RIA Novosti) - The Russian Prosecutor General's Office has not yet received a single document in the Alexander Litvinenko murder case from Britain, a senior investigator said Wednesday.

In an interview with the daily Rossiiskaya Gazeta to be published Thursday, Andrei Mayorov said: "We have not received a single document in the Litvinenko case. Technically, we do not even know what he died of, as unfortunately, we have received all our information about the Polonium-210 poisoning from so-called open sources."

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20070725/69670195.html

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2006/yir/timeline/images/21.litvinenko.gi.jpg