Spiritual Mediums

[rubes]

I have been real interested in these people for quite some time now, we see the likes of Colin Fry, John Edward, derek Acorah etc on Sky TV,

We have also been to see Derek Acorah 3 times at his 'live' shows, for me though until I personally get some kind of validation from someone like this i guess part of me is a bit skeptical, but i do like to think i am 'open minded'

Just wondering what anyone thinks about the likes of the above or others, people tell me Derek is a fake and an alcoholic, their words not mine (i'd like to know how they come to this assumption), or are there other mediums you recommend to view :)

Cheers :)

[hurr]

Mediums are either fakes or connected with demonic forces.
They do it just for the money. To be avoided

[rubes]

Mediums are either fakes or connected with demonic forces.
They do it just for the money. To be avoided

What all of them:(

[pinnochio]

No not all of them hurr probably had a bad experience maybe.

I've had a couple of good experiences. Yeah there are fakes out there, but not all of them.

[rubes]

ok cool, i mean people like colin fry, derek acorah, john edward, james van pragh etc etc , not the ones you pass at the seaside on the end of the pier ;)

[nirvana]

Im going to a spiritualist church at moment.So far all ive really seen is something like cold reading.
But this may change



Peace:)

[marpat]

Mediums are either fakes or connected with demonic forces.
They do it just for the money. To be avoided

How would you know? what would you suggest

[anahata]

I think there are people in the world who can act as a go between, but that most ACT as a go between. Some people have more insight into given situations but certainly with some of my beliefs it would be feasiable for a few beings to have this ability.

I'm curious about this too though, I'm part of a yoga school whose spiritual master is a mystery to me. He got into serious trouble years ago... apparently from teaching yoga in a communitst society.. as you'd imagine he went underground but was then under surveillance by the government, bugged arrested and tortured before apparently escaping a maximum security prison?!!! :eek: :confused:

Hard to say whether any of them are authentic unless you can meet and experience it yourself. I'd like to say I could, but I can't.

[marpat]

I think there are people in the world who can act as a go between, but that most ACT as a go between. Some people have more insight into given situations but certainly with some of my beliefs it would be feasiable for a few beings to have this ability.

I'm curious about this too though, I'm part of a yoga school whose spiritual master is a mystery to me. He got into serious trouble years ago... apparently from teaching yoga in a communitst society.. as you'd imagine he went underground but was then under surveillance by the government, bugged arrested and tortured before apparently escaping a maximum security prison?!!! :eek: :confused:

Hard to say whether any of them are authentic unless you can meet and experience it yourself. I'd like to say I could, but I can't.

The true master is within.

[runlikehell]

Ive been to S,C (spiritualist churches) lot's of times in the past (Don't go now though) I diden't always accept a message though, exspecialy if i had one a week or two before.

I hate these people that are there every week (or a few times a week) who get messages reguarly, and keep accepting, message, after message.

They should let the mediums use their time to goto someone else, who is new or dosen't go that often.

It's not the mediums falt, just gready people :(

Im afraid most of the stuff ive been told is shit, exspecialy one time, years ago a medium told me:

I see you studying, taking some kind of collage course, uni,
(It was made clear she was refering to highter education) and see it lasting a few years, i see you with your study book's, doing this, doing that, ect!

LMFAO! Studying i have not intention to study anything, or going to collage or Uni when i know in advance that ive no intention of doing what their saying, that's how you spot a good fake!

All in All,it's a lot of shit, don't waste your time.

[darryl84]

I'm curious about this too though, I'm part of a yoga school whose spiritual master is a mystery to me. He got into serious trouble years ago... apparently from teaching yoga in a communitst society.. as you'd imagine he went underground but was then under surveillance by the government, bugged arrested and tortured before apparently escaping a maximum security prison?!!! :eek: :confused:




Is his name Michael Scofield!? :D

[anahata]

If only! :D I'd believe anything he'd tell me!!

[nightwalker]

ok cool, i mean people like colin fry, derek acorah, john edward, james van pragh etc etc , not the ones you pass at the seaside on the end of the pier ;)

Please tell me you dont think Derek (I get possesed every five seconds) Acorah is genuine? :(

[rubes]

Please tell me you dont think Derek (I get possesed every five seconds) Acorah is genuine? :(

I'm open minded on all of them really, i think the possession thing was more to gain popularity for the Most Haunted Series, to draw people in, but until i personally get some kind of validation from someone like these guys i guess i will always bit a tad skeptical if i'm honest :rolleyes:

[osiris111]

i have trained in mediumship at the college in stanstead and can say that yes it is real and no im not saying all mediums are true because there is a hell of a lot of mediums out there who are fakes. i have seen the so called fakes working in the snu churches also as well as other places.

as for advice on going for a reading....

consider what you want from this reading first, then find a good medium by word of mouth and i mean a really good one, you will know they are good by how much they charge. you will get the best reading for free remember that.

as to whether its real or deamonic i do not know as i came out of it as fast as i went in and now no longer practice mediumship as i believe my attention should now be on my family at this point in time due to the world situation we are living in.

consider this?

how much would you charge to pass a message from your mum to your sister?


:D
also as a last note, i was also taught and still believe that any human being can learn to do this all it takes is practice and a bit of motivation.

[rubes]

I understand what your saying pal, my old man has always told me that there are way too many in it for 1 thing........money :( .......and that whatever message shold be given without payment, dont get me wrong if someone was to come to my place and give me a reading then i'd have no worries sorting them out for their time etc, but i bet the ones that appear on the TV would cost a small fortune to get a reading off one of them guys.......the problem is how do you find a good one, is it just a case of going to the churches and taking things as they come and make sure you go when different mediums are on........i would love a reading for personnal validation that the other side is real and that our loved ones that have passed really do see us in our lives and the things we do........i aint the sort of guy that would be asking what the lottry numbers are gonna be.......

i have trained in mediumship at the college in stanstead and can say that yes it is real and no im not saying all mediums are true because there is a hell of a lot of mediums out there who are fakes. i have seen the so called fakes working in the snu churches also as well as other places.

as for advice on going for a reading....

consider what you want from this reading first, then find a good medium by word of mouth and i mean a really good one, you will know they are good by how much they charge. you will get the best reading for free remember that.

as to whether its real or deamonic i do not know as i came out of it as fast as i went in and now no longer practice mediumship as i believe my attention should now be on my family at this point in time due to the world situation we are living in.

consider this?

how much would you charge to pass a message from your mum to your sister?


:D
also as a last note, i was also taught and still believe that any human being can learn to do this all it takes is practice and a bit of motivation.

[eternalwheel]

Hi,
having watched so many old episodes of Most Haunted, I just think Derek Acorah is such a big old fraud who loves hamming it up with his 'possession' acts. They are truly hilarious and a great comedy act.

Having said that, there is something about the other psychic on the show -David Wells - which makes me feel he is completely genuine. He is always very sincere and takes it seriously. Unfortunately he doesn't do the show any more. Not sure about the new guy Brian.

[exmicrochipmafia]

Mediums are either fakes or connected with demonic forces.
They do it just for the money. To be avoided


Wow. I haven't laughed that hard in a long time.

I am one and I'm not connected with demonic forces. My wife is an even better medium than I. Mind you, we don't go around like the people on t.v. but we do enjoy a good haunted property, and have done 'battle' with dark forces, cleansing them from peoples' homes. And just to head off any argument, my wife is a bonafide shaman (native medicine woman/healer, etc) and not connected with satanism.
Personally, in my encounters I have been hit HARD in the back to the point I doubled over in pain, and have received bite marks for some of my efforts. :) I've had spirits hold doors shut and blow lights around me and my wife and my wife has had windows blow out from the inside out and had a ceiling fan nearly decapitate a client of hers while she was cleansing a property. It is real, let me assure you.

As for Derek Acorah; he started off great, but then something changed in him and it seemed he was always getting 'posessed'. I honestly feel that 75 percent of his posessions are embellished manure. I feel sorry for him because he's a VERY good medium.

David Wells, is better...no...different- a much more gentle soul and a great medium because of it.

[nightwalker]

Wow. I haven't laughed that hard in a long time.

I am one and I'm not connected with demonic forces. My wife is an even better medium than I. Mind you, we don't go around like the people on t.v. but we do enjoy a good haunted property, and have done 'battle' with dark forces, cleansing them from peoples' homes. And just to head off any argument, my wife is a bonafide shaman (native medicine woman/healer, etc) and not connected with satanism.
Personally, in my encounters I have been hit HARD in the back to the point I doubled over in pain, and have received bite marks for some of my efforts. :) I've had spirits hold doors shut and blow lights around me and my wife and my wife has had windows blow out from the inside out and had a ceiling fan nearly decapitate a client of hers while she was cleansing a property. It is real, let me assure you.

As for Derek Acorah; he started off great, but then something changed in him and it seemed he was always getting 'posessed'. I honestly feel that 75 percent of his posessions are embellished manure. I feel sorry for him because he's a VERY good medium.

David Wells, is better...no...different- a much more gentle soul and a great medium because of it.


May I ask a genuine question which I know I have asked on another thread? Does any of the spirit world seek to help man kind? If so then why cant we find people like Madeline etc why are there no warnings from the spirit world with regards to the ruling elite etc (I think you get my drift). This isnt an attack - this is something that really interests me to the extent that I am considering attending a beginners circle. I would appreciate your thoughts on how you perceive the spirit world and its relationship (or otherwise) with man kind :)

[osiris111]

ill try and answer them as best as i can.

do they seem to help mankind? in my personal experience i would say yes they try to help, but ... sometimes the help they give is not the help you want?

i do believe that certain things were put forward by mediums for some relevant ongoing investigations but i also strongly believe these people were ignored.

as for warnings reference the ruling elite personally i believe life is like a game and there are certain things we are not supposed to know, like whats happening in the background, the important thing is how you deal with the experience life is giving you personally.

ok the big one
my personal thoughts on spirit world and relationship with mankind?

this influences my opinion...

when i first started to develop as a medium i was ripped off by a sweet old lady for a few hundred quid. then went to a spiritual church and studied under a priest. very good teacher good results. then college at stanstead very good course. more studying then back to college second time. odd occurance on course, staff reluctant to discuss what happened and why. left course. attended other churches and circles and found i was getting bored of all the bravado from other so called mediums so started my own readings.

i never charged for any of the readings i have done and would not in the future, should i re start doing readings. it was the look on the persons face when you tell them something that only that person would recognise, thats why i did it and enjoyed it. i did try to charge once as my missus said i should accept money for time but after the reading i didnt want to ask so i didnt.



for me the relationship was very bumpy. one minute i could hear them then feel them then see them but never at the same time. i found that you have to put a lot of energy and time into that sort of work as it becomes very mentally draining. also after practising mediumship for over 4 years i would like to say i have never once spoken to or been spoken to by my guide? i was told his name once but never have i had any help from any form of spirit nor have i had any fantastical adventure that has made me believe that. i would say if you are thinking of entering the psychic side of things my advice would be find a good local circle and dont expect too much. it takes time and humans are not patient. but ill end on a good note, there are some fantastic mediums out there and they will help if you ask them.

[gilly]

My mum went to a spiritual church for the 1st time at the age of 50, and became quite a good medium. She never charged a penny. The only thing was, she'd often be picking up images that she couldn't interpret the meaning of.

She stopped after a few years, because she felt it was taking over her life too much.

I also had a distant aunt who was a medium - nutty as a fruit cake, & reminded me of Margaret Rutherford's character in 'Blithe Spirit'.

I'm sure there are charlatans about, but I wish some people weren't so quick to write off the whole thing because of them.