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hagbard_celine

24-05-2009, 08:30 PM

element

24-05-2009, 08:42 PM

It's like all this bollocks about blasphemy. Why would mere words offend God? How could they!?

'God', as the highest totalness beyond human understanding, wouldn't care about a word. But..if we use words in a cursing way, we are disconnecting ourself from source, even may it be a little. It's not the word, but the energy behind it we use, can effect our selves like so many other things.

Of course, it doesn't really matter whether someone is homosexual, heterosexual or bisexual, because this is all temporary bodily identification.
As I'm always saying, many religions are just happily playing their part in the whole materialism/bodily perception of life agenda. That's what is disconnecting ourselves from truth.

The article and video just show how silly so called spiritual institutions are.:D

danster82

24-05-2009, 08:52 PM

Hes 15 billion years old? I dont think you can give an age to God it gave birth to time.

Its certainly the human ego that has all these bickering because it makes God small by creating God in its own image, that image being jealous fearful and angry. It then acts as the voice for this jealous angry fearful God.

I cant even understand the statement "if God exists" that statement in itself is of a graven image of God, how can you even ask that question if God didn't exist? Its like the question is being asked if some image within the mind of the questioner exists "out there" somewhere without enquiring into the source prier to where the question itself arises.

As Jesus said the Kingdom of heaven does not come with observation, say not here or there for behold the kingdom of heaven is within you.

hagbard_celine

24-05-2009, 08:53 PM

Hes 15 billion years old? I dont think you can give an age to God it gave birth to time.

Its certainly the human ego that has all these bickerings because it makes God small by creating God in its own image, that image being jealous fearful and angry.

God is an infinite age. I was using a hyperbole.:cool: It 's the kind of thing I'd say in a debate with a religious person.:D

hagbard_celine

24-05-2009, 08:55 PM

'God', as the highest totalness beyond human understanding, wouldn't care about a word. But..if we use words in a cursing way, we are disconnecting ourself from source, even may it be a little. It's not the word, but the energy behind it we use, can effect our selves like so many other things.

I must concede there is an issue there. I'd never say anything self-(universally) destructive. But supposed blasphemies like ""Christ on a bike" or "Step on the Pope's toe" are really harmless.

uncia

24-05-2009, 10:18 PM

Unfortunately the Church of Scotland is rapidly turning apostate. Gay ministers is not the only problem. There are many who simply aren't up to the job, believing Christianity to be mainly about the redistribution of wealth. One of the reasons is money: if they don't fall in with the crowd, the crowd does not pay them - or so they see it. They have vast numbers of expensive church buildings to maintain. Therefore social justice is their preoccuption rather than godliness as it ought. Church these days is a business first and a church second. That's why they are turning apostate.

Luckily people in Scotland have a choice Free Presbyterians in Scotland. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Presbyterian_Church_of_Scotland)

In Arabic Allah is a standard word for "the deity". Muslims have no more right to it than anyone else as it was used in pre-Islamic times to refer to the moon god etc.

miracles

25-05-2009, 09:48 AM

uncia

25-05-2009, 02:24 PM

Is the gay misiter celebate or can he be seen regularly down at the weekly underwear night at the gay bar and is he a regular paticaipator in pig sex nights? For me that would be the question...
There are no celibate gays; and even if there were, it would make no difference as he would be a condoner rather than a practicer which is an equal or even worse sin. In fact to even admit the natural state of being "gay" is to partially condone it, because it is to excuse it. As all true Christians know, those who say they are gay are in fact demon possessed.

It should be noted by all true Christians that those who condone, approve or excuse homosexuality are under the same wrath as those who practice it.

Rom 1:32 Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

merlincove

25-05-2009, 02:42 PM

Check out these news stories:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8065597.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/north_east/8065563.stm

If God exists... He must be shaking His head and laughing at us!:D:rolleyes:

Good grief! He's at least 15 billion years old, He sees everything and hears everything, He can read our thoughts... don't you think he'd have risen above all this!?:cool:

It's like all this bollocks about blasphemy. Why would mere words offend God? How could they!?

Do religious people really think so little of God? That is surely the ultimate blasphemy!

Yeah, i think that giving God the credence of man, the concept that what is man's understanding is also Gods, what offends man will offend God is not only condensing the concept of god into a lesser being, but also raising mans stautus to a more god-like pinicle.

People claim to represent God, what has been blasphemed is in all likelyhood their own sense of devotion, what they seem to miss is that God is all forgiving.

People say the same thing about cats and dogs that have have a certain charactersistic that can be likened to a human characteristic, 'that dog / cat thinks he is a human' - what graver insult can you level to conclude that something with a purety and innocense is something that it is not.

majorlee

25-05-2009, 02:48 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNy6ziOyxoA

uncia

25-05-2009, 03:34 PM

Yeah .... what they seem to miss is that God is all forgiving.
2Pe 2:6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned [them] with an overthrow, making [them] an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;

uncia

25-05-2009, 10:36 PM

Pedophilia
(http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/the_psychopathology_of_homosexuality)
Child molestation and pedophilia occur far more commonly among homosexuals than among heterosexuals on a per capita basis, according to a new study.

Abel also found that non-incarcerated "child molesters admitted from 23.4 to 281.7 acts per offender … whose targets were males."

"The rate of homosexual versus heterosexual child sexual abuse is staggering," said Reisman, who was the principal investigator for an $800,000 Justice Department grant studying child pornography and violence. "Abel’s data of 150.2 boys abused per male homosexual offender finds no equal (yet) in heterosexual violations of 19.8 girls."

-- Report: Pedophilia more common among 'gays' April 29, 2002

uncia

25-05-2009, 10:49 PM

Homosexual Lies (http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexual_lies_-_what_percentage_of_the_population/)

”How many people are homosexual?” is widely disputed.

The Washington Times says “10 percent of American men are homosexual and 5 percent of women are lesbian (Nov. 19, 1991). USA Today refers to 25 million gay men and lesbians (Nov, 13, 1991), based on 250 million population in the United States. The American Psychological Association claims that homosexuality is “an orientation found consistently in about 10 percent of the male population and approximately 5 percent of the female population.“17 The famous figure of 10 percent is often cited when referring to numbers of homosexuals in the United States. Where does this figure originate?

The figure comes from a study conducted in the 1940s. In 1948 Dr. Alfred Kinsey and others published Sexual Behavior in the Human Male, in which they cited the 10 percent figure based on their findings. What is not generally acknowledged, however, is that their study was seriously flawed.

* Approximately 25 percent of the 5,300 individuals in the study were prison inmates who by the nature of their confinement couldn’t have heterosexual sexual relations. Moreover, 44 percent of these inmates had had homosexual experiences while in prison.18

* Kinsey admitted that “several hundred male prostitutes” were used in his sample.19

* Because people responded to an ad to take part in the study, a “volunteer bias” was evident. “Research has shown that those responding to a study as intimate as the one Kinsey was doing would not be representative of the general population. In fact, the widely renowned psychologist Abraham Maslow pointed this out to Kinsey before his findings were published, but he refused to listen.“20

In addition, contrary to what is often reported, the study did not contend that 10 percent of the U.S. population was homosexual. Rather, Kinsey’s conclusion was that “10 percent of White American males were ‘more or less’ exclusively homosexual for at least three years between the ages of 16 and 65.

The statistic for females was 5 percent. The actual percentage of those thought to be exclusively homosexual for their entire lives was only 4 percent of men and 2 or 3 percent of women.“21 This was all based on his allegedly representative sample of the population.

Other studies have been recently conducted with different results. One study conducted between 1984 and 1987 by David Forman, senior staff scientist at the Radcliffe Infirmary (Oxford. England), found that only 1.7 percent of men in the sample had ever had homosexual intercourse.22 And a 1989 study conducted at the University of Chicago resulted in a figure “less than 1 percent exclusively homosexual.“23

uncia

25-05-2009, 10:52 PM

Homosexual Lifespan (http://www.familyresearchinst.org/2009/02/violence-and-homosexuality/)

A study of 6,714 obituaries (22) in gay newspapers across the U.S. revealed that 3% of 6,574 gays and 20% of 140 lesbians had died violently:

• 1.4% of gays and 7% of lesbians were murdered (rates over a hundred times those of non-gays);

• 0.6% of gays and 5.7% of lesbians committed suicide (rates dozens of times those of non-gays); and

• 0.6% of gays and 4.3% of lesbians died in motor vehicle accidents (over 17 times the rate of non-gays)

These events, coupled with various STDs (especially AIDS) gotten from other gays, resulted in a median age of death of 40 among gays and a median age of death of 45 among lesbians. In the same study, comparison samples of married men had a median age of death of 75 and married women a median age of death of 79. For divorced or single persons the median age of death was 57 for men and 71 for women.

uncia

25-05-2009, 10:58 PM

Serial Killers (http://www.familyresearchinst.org/2009/02/violence-and-homosexuality/)

The top six U.S. male serial killers were all gay:

• Donald Harvey claimed 37 victims in Kentucky;

• John Wayne Gacy raped and killed 33 boys in Chicago, burying them under his house and in his yard;

• Patrick Kearney accounted for 32, cutting his victims into small pieces after sex and leaving them in trash bags along the Los Angeles freeways;

• Bruce Davis molested and killed 27 young men and boys in Illinois;

• A gay sex-murder-torture ring (Corll-Henley-Brooks) sent 27 Texas men and boys to their grave; and

• Juan Corona was convicted of murdering 25 migrant workers (he “made love” with their corpses).

Lesbian Aileen Wuornos laid claim in 1992 to “worst female killer” with at least 7 middle-aged male victims. She singlehandedly topped the lesbian nurse team of Catherine Wood and Gwen Graham, who had killed 6 convalescent patients in Grand Rapids, Michigan.

The association between serial murder and homosexuality isn’t recent. Two gays compete for the spot of “world’s worst murderer.” During the Nazi reign of terror, Auschwitz executioner Ludwig Tiene strangled, crushed, and gnawed boys and young men to death while he raped them. Though his grand total is uncertain, he often murdered as many as 100 a day. Gilles de Rais (Bluebeard) brutally destroyed the lives of 800 boys. Each lad was lured to his home, bathed and fed. Just as the poor boy thought “this is my lucky day,” he was raped, then killed by being ripped or cut apart and either burned or eaten.

A study of 518 sexually-tinged mass murders in the U.S. from 1966 to 1983 determined that 350 (68%) of the victims were killed by those who practiced homosexuality and that 19 (44%) of the 43 murderers were bisexuals or homosexuals.(2)

Though probably less than a majority of mass murderers are homosexual, given that no more than 3% of the populace is gay, homosexual murderers show up much more frequently than one would expect (even Richard Speck engaged in homosexuality). Along with serial murder, there appears to be a connection between homosexuality and murder. Evidence from before the gay rights movement is limited. Of 444 homicides in one jurisdiction from 1955-1973, investigators noted 5 clear “sexual motivation” murders. Three of the 5 involved homosexuality and 2 involved heterosexuality. (3)

Probing more deeply into the connection between murder and homosexuality, Jim Warren, who worked as a counselor at the Washington State Corrections Center, did the intake interview for almost all the younger murderers (i.e., under age 36) in the state of Washington from 1971-82 (during the growth of the gay rights movement). He was “probably the only one who examined the entirety of each of their case files.” Warren testified (4) that he was struck with how frequently homosexuality turned up in the cases.

Starting with a trickle of 2 or 3 murders/year in 1972 until dozens/year by the 1980s, he noted a recurrent pattern: Although the motive listed in the report was often robbery or theft, “about 50% of the time” it was also associated with homosexuality. Typically, a homosexual would meet someone at a bar or park and invite him to his home. Before the morning, an argument would ensue and he or his visitor would be dead.

mephibosheth

25-05-2009, 11:05 PM

Where are the stats on how many and what named demons are possessing all those gay people? What, no studies being done on this???

uncia

25-05-2009, 11:10 PM

Deliberately Infecting Others During Sex (http://www.familyresearchinst.org/2009/02/violence-and-homosexuality/)

In 1992 three London STD clinics reported that almost half of their homosexual patients who knew they were infected with HIV had then gotten rectal gonorrhoea. (14) These gays were not permitting their deadly infection to spoil their sexual fun. By 1993 over 100,000 U.S. gays had died of AIDS and tens of thousands had died of hepatitis B. Most of these had been infected, many deliberately or carelessly, by other homosexuals.

cinder_darkskys

25-05-2009, 11:11 PM

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=387&pictureid=3587

Sorry God has nothing agaist GAYS Its just not holy. In the Passed the Church may have many gay men with in the Church, But that was different times, These are these times. An in these time peaple do any thing to have you beleieve What there saying, up to an including the site owner.

NO GAY wedding in CHURCHS, sorry Who ever told you LOVE within and by it self, will by your way in to HEAVEN alone, lied to you. There many sharp interments in HEAVEN. < WEAPONs ) We all know alittle about limbo, I call it TIME STOP, These are the ones who didnt make it in to heaven. wait for redemption. But the question is realy, Why would god worry about these peaple who when agaist him in life. I meen they had no time for him, in life, Why should he make time for them, in death. Beside he's got so many willing GOOD peaple willing to do it his way. an not there own way, those are the peaple that count, not the fallin
Again I say burn. to bad so sad

Why is it not holy, 2 men can not create life 2 ladies can not create life.

Burn

Simple as that, not matter how much you like your way. Its just not going to happen. It why we all dieing now an cant get off this Rock.

So find a Judge but dont bring your GAY ass fucking self in to a Church to be wed.
An say well I like to wedded in a Church, even tho its NOT holy. I dont want it in my church. If your gay an you like to worship the lord your god, fine. your in Join we love to have you. But Gay weddings, I pass on. Again go fine a Judge

Why would I want to insault my GOD, With your sodomy.

In the real world these misguilded peaple hold all of us back from leaving the planet, an not just the GAY peaple
God knows his word is diverity, with in good morial conduct.

uncia

25-05-2009, 11:28 PM

Myth: Psychiatrists believe that homosexuality is not an abnormality. (http://www.scribd.com/doc/6270136/Myths-About-Homosexuality)

The American Psychiatric Association voted in 1973 to take homosexuality off of its list of abnormalities. The vote was based on politics – not on medical or scientific facts. The vote passed because of immense pressure from the National Gay Task Force, and because only-quarter of the membership voted. In spite of this, subsequent surveys revealed that a majority of psychiatrists still regard homosexuality as an abnormality that should be treated.

danceswithbunnies

25-05-2009, 11:48 PM

Pedophilia
(http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/the_psychopathology_of_homosexuality)

Most christian priests and pastors are gay?

I have had MANY gay friends and not a single one of them was remotely attracted to children...whereas i have had many christian acquaintances whom i cannot say the same thing about.

That is an utter load of shit...that gays are predisposed to pederasty..

I have one gay friend that i have known for over a decade and he is currently in a long term relationship.

PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULDN'T CAST STONES.the old testament verdict for adultery was stoning, just like homosexuals.

I also read that the divorce rate for most "christians" is higher than the divorce rate of secular people, and the amount of adultery is higher too...currently trying to find that article.

OHHHHH But that is persecution when we say it about the hypocritical christian, but it is fair game for them to say it about gay people.

Dude, you really need to read this book by Cohen and find out how TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY screwed up believing the bible makes you.

http://www.amazon.com/Mind-Bible-Believer-Edmund-Cohen/dp/0879754958/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1243287160&sr=8-1

CHRISTIANITY causes mental problems:
http://geocities.com/questioningpage/mhealth7.html

angelx777

25-05-2009, 11:51 PM

god is very commercialized on sky-tv here, we got got.tv godshop.com god services, adverts on buy gods stuff bla bla bla, good dumbass target industry, ££££££££

danceswithbunnies

26-05-2009, 12:08 AM

There was an actual academic paper that showed that in fact evangelicals in the US were much less moral than their liberal or secular counterparts.
I will find that paper eventually but there are other resources..

Here we go..

Fundies have the Top Divorce Rate.
http://www.jcnot4me.com/Items/evangelical_ath/Christianity_Does_Not_Work_as_Advertised.htm#Fundi es_Have_The_Top_Divorce_Rate

Evengelicals are Habitual Liars:
Documented Fact- 75% of "Born-Again" Fundies are HABITUAL LIARS

http://www.saveus.org/sam/lighthouse.htm

· 77% of mainline protestants do not believe in absolute truth. While only 71% of the nation at large does not embrace absolute truth.

· 64% of "born-again" Christians do not believe in absolute truth.

· 40% of evangelical Christians do not believe in absolute truth.

· 75% of "born-again" Christians lie regularly - conscious, premeditated lies.

The result - We have become a nation of liars. We have fractured our covenant with God and with each other. When truth is lost, trust is lost. When trust is lost, tyranny waits.

The "covenant community" provides neither covenant nor community.

· The divorce rate among fundamentalist "Christians" now exceeds the nation as a whole by 4%.

· The divorce rate among pastors now equals the national rate.

· 70% of pastors admit they have no friends.

· 73% of evangelicals claim its getting hard to make friends compared to only 58% of the nation at large. The more "religion," the less "relationship." Shocking!

· 52,000 people per week are leaving the back doors of America's churches.

When covenant is lost, community is lost. When community is lost, chaos prevails

in fact CHRISTIANITY corrupts good morals:
http://www.jcnot4me.com/Items/evangelical_ath/Christianity_Does_Not_Work_as_Advertised.htm#Chris tianity_Corrupts_Good_Morals

uncia

26-05-2009, 12:24 AM

Proportion of serial killers who are known to have had homosexual experience is over 43%.

List of Homosexual serial killers (http://www.adherents.com/misc/hsk.html)

Cannibals more likely to be homosexuals (http://encyclopedia.kids.net.au/page/ca/Cannibalism)

Existing cases of sexualized cannibalism involve homosexuals to a disproportionate extent. Some observers have linked this to the higher likelihood of homosexuals to suppress their sexual urges.

The Vampire of Hanover
(http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2008/10/18/2008-10-18_the_butcher_of_hanover.html)
His name was Fritz Haarmann, a fleshy 45-year-old butcher with a Charlie Chaplin mustache and the voice of an old lady.

Born in 1879, Haarmann was the sixth, and last, child of a hard-drinking railroad worker, known in his community as Sulky Olle, and his frail dim-witted wife, Johanna.

Father and son were locked in battle from the start, and both would carry their hatred to their graves. But Johanna, who was bedridden after the birth of her youngest child, adored the boy and indulged his every whim, even when that included playing with dolls and dressing up in his sister's clothes.

From an early age, Fritz had a fascination with knives, and would loiter around the butcher's stalls, watching the cutters at work.

As a young man in military school, Haarmann fell on his head during gymnastics practice and suffered a concussion, which sparked epileptic fits and blackouts. He left the school in 1895.

Fritz tried to find a life, first in a doomed marriage, then in the army, but nothing worked. In 1901, he suffered a breakdown, and the army discharged him with a pension.

After that, he was frequently in trouble with the law, with charges including robbery, fraud and molesting young boys. In 1913, he landed in jail for five years, emerging into a Germany that was the starving, demoralized and impoverished loser of the first World War.

Hanover then was called the "Sodom of Germany," a magnet for vagabonds, orphans, broken and beaten soldiers, gamblers and criminals.

It was a perfect world for Haarmann. He cobbled together a nice living by smuggling and selling meat, which was in scarce supply after the war, and by working as a political spy, hired by authorities to keep tabs on Communists.

Along the way, he picked up a partner, Hans Grans, a handsome male prostitute, 20 years his junior.

They set up housekeeping in a tenement in a seedy section known as the "ghost district." By day, Haarmann peddled his steaks and sausages. By night, he haunted the streets, picking up runaways and vagrants at the railroad depot. It went on like this for six years.

The ugly truth would not be known until the spring of 1924, when skulls started washing up on the banks of the Leine. Identifying characteristics confirmed that these bones were the remains of some of the boys and young men who had gone missing, starting around 1918.

Haarmann's long history of sexual assault made him a person of interest, but his work as an informant had gained him many friends among the police.

So detectives did not look too hard, even when the trail of some missing people led to Haarmann's door. Once, police interrupted Haarmann in bed with a child. He was arrested and served time on an indecency charge.

Haarmann would later boast that the police had walked right past an important clue to his more serious crimes - the severed head of one of his young victims, tucked behind a stove.

While police swept the district, Haarmann continued to troll for victims. Pretending to be a detective, he'd offer young transients food and a place to spend the night. Many would never be seen again.

Bucket of blood

One of these boys, Keith Fromm, led to Haarmann's downfall. While at the depot, Fromm and Haarmann began to quarrel. Haarmann ran to the first officer he could find to report Fromm for traveling with false papers.

Fromm countered by accusing Haarmann of depravity. Police, siding with Fromm, arrested their old informant. A search of the prisoner's home yielded hundreds of garments that had belonged to the missing boys.

Confronted with this evidence, Haarmann spilled out his disgusting story - how he found his victims and how he killed. He confessed to 14 killings - although he insisted he couldn't remember the precise number.

No one would ever know exactly how many died at his hands.

After luring handsome kids to his apartment, he'd take them to bed, and "wrestle" with them, eventually whipping himself into a murderous frenzy.

"I'd bite into their Adam's apples," he said, and then drink their blood.

Haarmann would then methodically dismember the bodies, removing the intestines, organs and brains, legs and arms, then stripping off all the flesh and putting it in a bucket. The bones would be tossed out the window and into the river. The flesh he made into sausages to sell on the street and feed to friends.

Haarmann said Grans was aware of the killings, and insisted that his young, handsome accomplice was the mastermind. "In Grans' hands I was soft as wax," he said. He added that had he followed Grans' wishes, the death toll would have been in the hundreds.

'Chop my head off'

The bleached bones, bloody bucket and bed were displayed to the court during Haarmann's trial, which started on Dec. 4, 1924.

At times, the defendant seemed bored. "Stop this talk. It is all nonsense. Get it over with and chop my head off," he whined.

In a wild display of optimism, Haarmann hoped that he could be found guilty and sent to the guillotine before Christmas, so he could celebrate the holidays with his mother in heaven.

Eighteen days later, the jury granted him his wish, a verdict of guilty in 27 killings with a sentence of death, although not in time for Christmas. He died on the guillotine on April 15, 1925. Grans, found guilty of inciting to murder in two cases, was also given a death sentence, but that would later be commuted to 12 years in prison.

Throughout the trial, observers noted the German people, obsessed with the grisly actions of Haarmann and another similar but smaller case, were ignoring much more critical issues.

"Three days before the general elections, called the most important in Germany's republican history ... the national interest, instead of focusing on the vital political question is given almost entirely to the two most horrible mass murder cases in Germany's history," wrote legendary American newsman George Seldes.

It's likely no one was paying any attention to a much more important story - the rise of a political newcomer in Bavaria, who bore a striking resemblance to Haarmann.

In years to come, this charismatic politician, Adolf Hitler, would prove to be a spiritual brother to the Vampire of Hanover, and, like him, would give the world a new and horrifying definition of mass murder.

uncia

26-05-2009, 12:34 AM

Most christian priests and pastors are gay?

You are making it up.

I have had MANY gay friends and not a single one of them was remotely attracted to children...

Why should they tell you if they were? Homosexuals are devious.

whereas i have had many christian acquaintances whom i cannot say the same thing about.

I don't believe you.

That is an utter load of shit...that gays are predisposed to pederasty..

I have one gay friend that i have known for over a decade and he is currently in a long term relationship.

How do you know what he does in his spare time?

PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULDN'T CAST STONES.the old testament verdict for adultery was stoning, just like homosexuals.

I don't live in a glass house.

I also read that the divorce rate for most "christians" is higher than the divorce rate of secular people, and the amount of adultery is higher too...currently trying to find that article.

Irrelevant as it could be presumed that secualar people don't bother with marriage, and it could also be presumed that many so called Christian marriages are comprised of only one of the persons being a true CHristian, or even neither of them.

OHHHHH But that is persecution when we say it about the hypocritical christian, but it is fair game for them to say it about gay people.

Dude, you really need to read this book by Cohen and find out how TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY screwed up believing the bible makes you.

http://www.amazon.com/Mind-Bible-Believer-Edmund-Cohen/dp/0879754958/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1243287160&sr=8-1

CHRISTIANITY causes mental problems:
http://geocities.com/questioningpage/mhealth7.html
LOL! At least it does not turn them into pederasts, serial killers, cannibals, and infect them with deadly deseases .... and make their voices high pitched like women.

danceswithbunnies

26-05-2009, 12:35 AM

Actually Uncia,

Christian evangelical civilizations are worse for christian fundamentalism..
IT IS NOT THE GAYS THAT ARE THE PROBLEM
IT IS THE CHRISTIANS..

Here is the study and articles that show that:

Journal of Religion and Society
Cross-National Correlations of Quantifiable Societal Health with Popular Religiosity and Secularism in the Prosperous Democracies
(academic paper)
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html

here is an easier to read article about the study

Is Christian morality harmonious ?
http://goosetheantithesis.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-christian-morality-harmonious.html

have examined at length where Christian morality is located within the context of individual development. But what of the claim that religion in general is conductive to social peace and stability ?

Well, there is a way in which the question is trivial. From a memetic standpoint, Christianity, like all other religions, survives insofar as it follows the flow of other memes in society. In this sense, we can say not that Christianity is a stabilizing element, but rather that the stabilizing elements in society normalize Christianity (albeit slowly) and integrate it as a working mechanism of that society. The principles of memetic Christianity (i.e. the actual memes it is composed of, in the minds of believers) are conductive to social stability insofar as its repressive attitude supports social institutions and governments.

But nothing that pursues social stability by repression can possibly contribute to social peace, as peace is the opposite of repression. So a purely theoretical memetic answer would be pretty much negative : Christianity in itself is powerless, and is only a bludgeon of social stability because it is molded that way by impersonal forces.

From an emergentist standpoint, we have to be equally negative. Social interactions are composed of individual moral decisions. If those individual moral decisions are dysfunctional (as Christianity is), then the resulting social interactions will be dysfunctional as well.

Going from the theoretical to the practical, do we have tangible evidence either way ? Definitely. A much-discussed recent study by Gregory Paul has demonstrated that higher levels of religion cause higher levels of social ills such as homicide, juvenile and early adult mortality, STD infection rates, teen pregnancy and abortion. Furthermore, it has been obvious for a long time that the United States is the most dysfunctional of all developed countries - to the extent that sociological studies do not include it within the group of developed countries, as it is an outlier for most social variables. Finally, regions with the greatest levels of religiosity (The Middle East, West Africa - 99% and Latin American - 96%) exhibit higher levels of violence than regions with the lowest levels of religiosity (SE Asia - 77% Western Europe - 88%), except in the area of suicide, according to "Epidemiology of violent deaths in the world", by Reza, Mercy and Krug (note that I don't agree with every conclusion of this study, but the violence data is clear). The United States also shows higher violence than the average of developed countries in all aspects except suicide, the same pattern of religiosity repeating here. Finally, the individual correlation between society-disrupting behaviour and religiosity is well-established, including the correlation between religiosity and criminality.Can there be a harmonious Christian society ? Even the United States can hardly be called harmonious, at least compared to the average. There is a certain level of disharmony to be expected, by virtue of human nature. So the question becomes - does Christianity improve on this, or regress ? Christians would say the former, but the data shows the latter.

How can we explain this data, and prove causality ? Well, we can say that Christianity is immoral in its doctrines and its principles, and that this immorality is reflected in the individual's decision-making process, and therefore his actions. This is a perfectly valid argument, even if it is rather generalized...

Now let's look at the issue from the perspective of moral development. As I've proven before, Christianity is an order-based morality - a morality adapted for babies and little children - imposed on adults. So you necessarily have a tension there. [/What you get, is a society full of repressed children, grown adults who hoot and holler at sexuality and bodily functions as if they were schoolchildren, like a lot of Americans. People who are morally retarded in this fashion cannot truly appreciate the finer things of life. This tension results in the fight against alternative lifestyles, alternative worldviews, censorship, and the breakdown of responsibility and civility (for example, people dealing with each other by lawsuits and public recrimination).

The second tension is between order-based morality and natural morality. As adults, Christians still have the brain development, the instincts, the desires that all adults have. But on the other hand, their order-based morality directly contradicts all of these elements, in fact attacks these elements as being of "the world", "anti-Christian".and "sinful". So we end up with a situation where people are conflicted and feel tremendous guilt about their own mind and their own actions. This is not the recipe for a healthy society, but rather the recipe for an oppressive society. We see the results of this tension in high teen pregnancy, high rates of adultery and divorce, high rates of obesity and preponderence of violent crimes born out of insecurity and frustration..

The third moral tension is between Christianity in general and Western civilization. This civilization of ours, regardless of its many faults, was founded on the tearing-down of authority, on the progress brought about by reason and science, on trade and material progress, on the freedom of being (through "human rights"), belief and lifestyle. Although we may have strayed from these ideals in the past century, we can still identify living Western values, such as material gain, romantic love and sexuality, equality, tolerance and respect, the importance of life – as well as our most noble and venerable institutions – the discovery and application of scientific principles, peaceful trading and commercialism, as well as acting and being judged based on one’s values.

In this cultural struggle, therefore, Christianity stands directly in opposition to these foundations, values and institutions. Christians proclaim, as an order from God, that doctrine is more important than science, that doctrine is more important than lifestyle or love, that spirituality is more important than material progress, that salvation is more important than human rights, equality or tolerence, that the culture of death is more important than the culture of life. That is "Christian valuing". So this form of tension also creates a tremendously destructive ideological current in our societies.

The individual, of course, is not "Western civilization" or "Christainity". The individual, however, can decide to promote and affiliate himself with either, or in my case, a rational alternative that sees the good in many Western values but would rather see them validated by rational thought once again, as they were during the Enlightenment. Either way, such a decision must be taken from the foundation of one's personal values, not on the basis of child abuse, indoctrination, intimidation or political wrangling. Individualism is really what we're fighting for. Individualism we shall have, or Western society will sink to the depths of the culture of mysticism, repression and death that Christianity represents.

Another article :Christianity (not Homosexuality) INCREASES Immorality:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article571206.ece

(christianity causes societal ills)

uncia

26-05-2009, 12:43 AM

miracles

26-05-2009, 12:51 AM

Most christian priests and pastors are gay?

I have had MANY gay friends and not a single one of them was remotely attracted to children...whereas i have had many christian acquaintances whom i cannot say the same thing about.

That is an utter load of shit...that gays are predisposed to pederasty..

I have one gay friend that i have known for over a decade and he is currently in a long term relationship.

PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULDN'T CAST STONES.the old testament verdict for adultery was stoning, just like homosexuals.

I also read that the divorce rate for most "christians" is higher than the divorce rate of secular people, and the amount of adultery is higher too...currently trying to find that article.

OHHHHH But that is persecution when we say it about the hypocritical christian, but it is fair game for them to say it about gay people.

Dude, you really need to read this book by Cohen and find out how TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY screwed up believing the bible makes you.

http://www.amazon.com/Mind-Bible-Believer-Edmund-Cohen/dp/0879754958/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1243287160&sr=8-1

CHRISTIANITY causes mental problems:
http://geocities.com/questioningpage/mhealth7.html

There will be a slew of books like this coming out, anything to discredit christianity and christians will go straight to the top of the charts. Its just another sign of the end times. Dispicable in my opinion.

danceswithbunnies

26-05-2009, 01:02 AM

Uncia,

Special pleading won't help you.

Also taking a few bad eggs from the homosexual community and generalizing to the entire homosexual population is very much analogical to the argument of saying that Christians being responsible for the Inquisition and Crusades automatically makes ALL christians inherently brutal and evil.

Miracles,

Anything that shows the actual repurcussions of the christian worldview is "despicable" instead of the whitewashed vision you hold in your head?

Did you understand that the ancient greeks had ideas that were only rediscoverd in the modern world because christianity slammed the western hemisphere into one thousand years of darkness, which we have yet to recover from?
Humanities development was ARRESTED thanks to the christian church.
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On a personal note, i am a much better person having left christianity,much more loving, much happier (much to the shock of my fundie friends) . Further having a truly good friend who is gay, and is morally superior to most christians (the volunteer work this guy does is astounding) helped me along the way to understand how backwards and immoral christianity actually is.

That's right go ahead and label me apostate.

uncia

26-05-2009, 02:31 AM

That's right go ahead and label me apostate.
Yes it is as you say though whether you were ever Christian I cannot say. Unfortunately you are exceedingly deluded about the world and yourself. All your arguments are very shallow - in fact you seem to be relying on mere propaganda for almost everything you say. I don't think the statistics about homosexuals point to only a "few". You don't seem to know very much or anything about religion at all. Yet it is clear you are virulently anti Christian. Is your long term gay friend your lover?

measle_weasel

26-05-2009, 02:43 AM

Do religious people really think so little of God? That is surely the ultimate blasphemy!

Well said.

danceswithbunnies

26-05-2009, 03:19 AM

Yes it is as you say though whether you were ever Christian I cannot say. Unfortunately you are exceedingly deluded about the world and yourself. All your arguments are very shallow - in fact you seem to be relying on mere propaganda for almost everything you say. I don't think the statistics about homosexuals point to only a "few". You don't seem to know very much or anything about religion at all. Yet it is clear you are virulently anti Christian. Is your long term gay friend your lover?

Fine have it your way...
(using your own standards of argumentation replete with logical fallacies)

those FEW homosexuals weren't REAL homosexuals...obviously they would not be molesting children, or infecting each other if they were REAL homosexuals.

I don't think that the statistics on christians point to only a few christians, they are all a bunch of violent hypocritical (as per the studies) hate mongers, bigots, and mass murderers (as per history).

You rely on MERE PROPAGANDA too, called the Bible.

You don't seem to know anything about real life at all, or even religion outside of your narrowly defined idea of what constitutes christianity.
Your arguments are purile.

It is clear that you hate humanity.

Are you a closet homosexual being so virulently anti-gay?
Most of the christians i know who were like that were in the closet.

uncia

26-05-2009, 08:29 AM

FEW homosexuals weren't REAL homosexuals...obviously they would not be molesting children, or infecting each other if they were REAL homosexuals.

Why so? Don't real homosexuals molest children?

I don't think that the statistics on christians point to only a few christians, they are all a bunch of violent hypocritical (as per the studies) hate mongers, bigots, and mass murderers (as per history).

Non sequitur. (1) Hypocrites aren't Christians according to Christ (2) Christians cannot be blamed for God hating sin.

You rely on MERE PROPAGANDA too, called the Bible.

The bible is history. Check it out. It is also true, so it is not propaganda.

You don't seem to know anything about real life at all, or even religion outside of your narrowly defined idea of what constitutes christianity.
Your arguments are purile.

Don't forget that I was once a non Christian too. So on your basis for argument, I do know something about "real life".

It is clear that you hate humanity.

A certain proportion of humanity has always been recognized as fit for the gallows. That's why gallows were invented.

Are you a closet homosexual being so virulently anti-gay?
Most of the christians i know who were like that were in the closet.
No such thing as a closet homosexual. Just a scurrilous term invented by homosexuals to cast aspersions of homosexuality on people who aren't. I am light years away from being a homosexual and have never in my entire life participated in such revolting practices.

danceswithbunnies

26-05-2009, 03:24 PM

Why so? Don't real homosexuals molest children?

Non sequitur. (1) Hypocrites aren't Christians according to Christ (2) Christians cannot be blamed for God hating sin.

The bible is history. Check it out. It is also true, so it is not propaganda.

Don't forget that I was once a non Christian too. So on your basis for argument, I do know something about "real life".

A certain proportion of humanity has always been recognized as fit for the gallows. That's why gallows were invented.

No such thing as a closet homosexual. Just a scurrilous term invented by homosexuals to cast aspersions of homosexuality on people who aren't. I am light years away from being a homosexual and have never in my entire life participated in such revolting practices.

You apparently cannot understand what i was doing

IF you are taking issue with what i said, it is because you are taking issue with your own fallacious argumentation.

I was using YOUR OWN ARGUMENTATION. I merely substituted "christian" For "homosexual" and "homosexual" for "christian" in a number of your "arguments", and baldly asserted things without evidence the way you do.

When you take issue with these "arguments", you are taking issue with your own arguments.

It is fairly clear from your posts that you are not able to grasp this.

You think argumentation and debate consists of much words, obfuscation,and asserting things that you take as true with no justification; instead of reason.

Just because you assert something does not make it true..i know that is hard for you to grasp. Many people believing that something is true is also not an argument that something is true.

OTOH Your posts are helping me a great deal, because i can see just how insane,warped, sadistic, and downright evil christianity is and it is helping me to shed any lingering doubts i have about leaving it behind. What a blessing.

uncia

26-05-2009, 05:33 PM

... it is helping me to shed any lingering doubts i have about leaving it behind. What a blessing.
... for a little while, then the cursing.

danceswithbunnies

26-05-2009, 06:02 PM

... for a little while, then the cursing.

I curse quite creatively now with or without Joe Hovah's permission.
Try it you might enjoy yourself.

pinnochio

26-05-2009, 06:11 PM

uncia

26-05-2009, 07:40 PM

Uncia. Are you a member of the westboro family church?

surley we're at a stage in our evolution now where people can get over this. To hate anyone is a bad waste of your energy. Hate is baggage.

You ever seen that film the Mist. Where that crazy christian lady ends up brainwashing all the people to turn against the few who are actually trying to help them.
No I don't watch TV. I practice reverse hate - if you had not noticed. My strategy is to make sure every gay I meet ends up hating my guts. That way they are damned, or realize that they are damned, more effectively.

You see its important with the unrepentant that they know the church treats them with contempt. That is the reason for excommunication: Paul was very insistent that people who do not obey God's word get excommunicated. The only way to save them is to damn them as much as possible in this life: fill their souls with hatred and cursing, so that in their last days they might realize who they are and what their destiny is.

pinnochio

26-05-2009, 08:28 PM

You know what. You believe what you believe and thats cool!

Namaste

element

26-05-2009, 08:36 PM

No I don't watch TV. I practice reverse hate - if you had not noticed. My strategy is to make sure every gay I meet ends up hating my guts. That way they are damned, or realize that they are damned, more effectively.

You see its important with the unrepentant that they know the church treats them with contempt. That is the reason for excommunication: Paul was very insistent that people who do not obey God's word get excommunicated. The only way to save them is to damn them as much as possible in this life: fill their souls with hatred and cursing, so that in their last days they might realize who they are and what their destiny is.
You are advocating violence.

Have you been raped by a homosexual?

http://dayeight.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/god-hates-fags.jpg

You should join them....

uncia

26-05-2009, 11:38 PM

You should join them....
They were invited to preach in a town near me in the UK, but the sodomite loving government barred them entry into the UK.

cinder_darkskys

27-05-2009, 10:05 AM

Peaple hate peaple

An so they lay blame, on every one but there lazzy selfs

God cares no more or no less for gay peaple then he cares about anyone else

If a gay person fallows the way of the lamb, he or she is wellcomed in to heaven.

to be WED under GOD within his graces there must be procreation. or the act, nor love is not enought to make it holy, of atempting procreation, this why, to be with in the bounds of a religion it is HOLY. an it all has to do with creation an death of life, your life your family your friends an your little loud mouth mut to

See this why Gays want to be married in a church. Sorry Holy Sodomy lol. GROW a BRAIN painless. Peaple have no understanding of a religion of there own, The whys the hows, lest all count Jewish Goat to gether.

Some times I wonder if a famaily member was right when he said, it seem to him that out 6,600,000,000. I seem to be the only preson on the BLOOD rock that knows this enity we call god, and his workings, an why. I meet no one here that has the even the slited idea of whats realy going on.

It seem to me that all these books truth are right there for you to read, but I gusss it my be easier, just to blame the Christan or the Jews, or maybe its Islamb. but

when you asked your mommy or your daddy about god. It seem to me they said he was like Santa Clause. here lay the trouble.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=372&pictureid=3440
this ghostly IMAGE is a MARS GLYPH But is taken of there preseptive of this Son of Earth. An his frenids. this is a NET IMAGE which has been display on many site, Its also a special image. The MASTER Image is very large, will never be seen

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=372&pictureid=3441

This Image stands alone also a mars GLYPH never seen in public. The master will NEVER be seen in public, part the Holy Grail.

Now if what you call ET believes in GOD. maybe you might wanta take a second look, I meen after all, there more advance are they knot.

This IMAGE stands alone, again MArs Glyph. this how we as men should view our ladies, again this is a Holy Grail
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=372&pictureid=3442

These Images you could look up there for the next 1,000,000 years, you will NEVER find them or see them again. there gone

hagbard_celine

28-05-2009, 11:53 AM

Is the gay misiter celebate or can he be seen regularly down at the weekly underwear night at the gay bar and is he a regular paticaipator in pig sex nights? For me that would be the question...

As far as I'm concerned, whatever he does with consenting adults in his private life is his business.

As for the pigs... well it's kinder than slaughtering them after keeping them in dark pens for their whole lives.

uncia

28-05-2009, 12:50 PM

As far as I'm concerned, whatever he does with consenting adults in his private life is his business.
Who says anyone has a right to a private life outside of their own homes? One's life becomes public the moment one steps outside the front door. Never seen a homosexual conduct their business entirely within the confines of their own homes.

hagbard_celine

28-05-2009, 12:57 PM

Who says anyone has a right to a private life outside of their own homes? One's life becomes public the moment one steps outside the front door. Never seen a homosexual conduct their business entirely within the confines of their own homes.

That's very unreasonable:(:confused:. What do you want them to do? Pretend to be "just good friends"?:rolleyes: All they do is say "we're a gay couple" and maybe hold hands. They tend to be less physically affectionate in public than straight couples. But what if they want to be so? How's it hurting you? They're not asking you to join in!:p

uncia

28-05-2009, 05:23 PM

That's very unreasonable:(:confused:. What do you want them to do? Pretend to be "just good friends"?:rolleyes: All they do is say "we're a gay couple" and maybe hold hands. They tend to be less physically affectionate in public than straight couples. But what if they want to be so? How's it hurting you? They're not asking you to join in!:p
Fact of the matter is that all this toleration of homosexuality started off with BS about them ought to be allowed to do what they want in their own private lives, and low and behold, a few years later, they are demanding the right to be married and sue guest house owners who won't give them a room.

Its propaganda. Can't you see it? "Private lives" is just BS.

Fact is that homosexuals want to turn the country into Sodom!

danceswithbunnies

28-05-2009, 05:32 PM

Fact of the matter is that all this toleration of homosexuality started off with BS about them ought to be allowed to do what they want in their own private lives, and low and behold, a few years later, they are demanding the right to be married and sue guest house owners who won't give them a room.

Its propaganda. Can't you see it? "Private lives" is just BS.

Fact is that homosexuals want to turn the country into Sodom!

And the fact is that christians want to turn the US into a theocracy.
Maybe we can bar them from holding public office based on their private lives which usually consists of sodomy of little boys Whether it is catholic priests, Republican bible beating senators,or US military which uses pressure tactics to convert troops to christianity..Wherever they go they spread pederasty.

BTW...i can predict the response:
Those weren't REAL christians.
(despite the fact that they have had the same sordid ModusOperandi throughout history)

uncia

28-05-2009, 05:51 PM

And the fact is that christians want to turn the US into a theocracy.
Maybe we can bar them from holding public office based on their private lives which usually consists of sodomy of little boys Whether it is catholic priests, Republican bible beating senators,or US military which uses pressure tactics to convert troops to christianity..Wherever they go they spread pederasty.

BTW...i can predict the response:
Those weren't REAL christians.
(despite the fact that they have had the same sordid ModusOperandi throughout history)

Homosexuals comprise only about 3 percent of the population, yet commit aver 30 percent of molestations. This is at least a ten-to-one ratio.

As least 90 percent of the victims of homosexual papists (not Christians) are young boys and men.

Conclusions: homosexuals are more likely to be pederast-pedophiles.

http://ondix.com/pdf/docs/essays_study_essay_dissertation_1071167879.pdf

danceswithbunnies

28-05-2009, 06:03 PM

I agree there is an unbelievable amount of evil out there, but i think we should not be getting confused with labels...i really believe that the worst criminals are those who hide behind a shield of seeming righteousness (the NT even says this)they are often pillars of the community.
And yet when you peel back the layers...the horror is unmistakable.

If you look long and hard enough, you will realize that civilization itself is built on lies..you have to lie to yourself to participate.

The only question remains how adept at self deception you are.

Never mind..

This grows to tiresome,
Try to find some peace within yourself.

hagbard_celine

03-06-2009, 02:24 PM

Fact of the matter is that all this toleration of homosexuality started off with BS about them ought to be allowed to do what they want in their own private lives, and low and behold, a few years later, they are demanding the right to be married and sue guest house owners who won't give them a room.

Its propaganda. Can't you see it? "Private lives" is just BS.

Fact is that homosexuals want to turn the country into Sodom!

I'm opposed the Left-Wing establishment expoiting homosexuals for their own agenda, but simply giving Gays equal rights will not lead to that if we're wary. Why shouldn't same-sex couples have the same marital rights? Why shouldn't they have everything else straight couples have? If two people love eachother then that's something to celelbrate. There's precious little love to go around as it is.

Sodom!:rolleyes::eek::D That's an absurd exaggeration!

inverselogic

04-06-2009, 12:39 PM

I only have two religious views.

-There is a creator/higher intelligence
-I would not be so arrogant as to assume I know ANYTHING about it. I can respect it, I can do my best to honor it, but I do not know anything about it.

thethirdeye

29-06-2009, 12:16 PM

Dr. Linda Garnets of UCLA ("Our Erotic Personalities Are Unique as our Fingerprints,") says that limiting ourselves to heterosexuality places an unnecessary constriction on human potential. When we overcome our fears of homosexual expression, we will discover rich, creative possibilities.

Thus Dr. Garnets makes a statement of scientific fact (that people are capable of a wide range of sexual responsiveness) and then slips directly into an area that is the realm of philosophy and ethics (her judgment that sexual diversity is good). She ignores the is/ought distinction -- that "what is" is not necessarily "what ought to be."

Science cannot, of course, tell us whether a heterosexual ethic -- or a celebration of sexual diversity -- is right or wrong.

Still, had Dr. Garnets called instead for a monagamous, heterosexual ethic, she would have been dismissed as a heterosexist whose opinions should be limited to Sunday sermons. But when a psychologist's moral prescription calls for celebration of sexual diversity, her work is uncontroversial and is assumed to be a pronouncement of science. One cannot help but be taken by the irony.

why should psychologist from APA
as dr LInda is, claim such a thing…if she is
right we should have same sex atractions…
who knows, in the future, the heteresexuals might
be seen as sick degraded persons…
and the morality as prejuce…..if you thing that
it is nasty to have sex with your own gender,
you are in denial of yourself, and after that
there will come another religion that will
restrict the pervesies, and again and again...
and people will remain stupid, and another
people will have another standards, and will
spend their emotions on another theme, and as
Einstein said, there are 2 unlimited things,
the space and the human stupidity, but he said
that he is not sure about the first thing

there is an agenda and if you don’t believe that
READ THE BOOK AFTER THE BALL writen by two very
intelligent gay psychiatrists.There are many
tactics that show how to change straight America morality.

http://www.article8.org/docs/gay_str...r_the_ball.htm
(read this and tell me that you are not manipulated today..)

ohh yea, I have one more aditional comment to make…
we are not all bisexuals..folowing the idea that same sex is good as opposite sex is good as all gay activist claimed and claim..we can conclude that bisexuals are on higher level than heteroxexuals and homosexuals because they can enjoy the both genres(isnt this prejuice towards homosexuals and heterosexuals??? I would call it bisexism) but only if we folow that idea. that same sex atraction is good....who dont have same sex atraction is limited...but if we say that same sex atraction is pervesion..than we have heteroxexuality the most pure sexuality......and bisexuality and homosexuality as pervesion...........so it is all computer progaming...........there isn't such a thing as sexual orientation........should pansexuals be the most sofisticated creatures???they feel atraction towards, animals, kids, males females..they have capacity for everything HAHAHA funny

when somebody says that
we are all bisexuals he thinks of the capacity
for sex with the both genres…..Yea that's true,
we all have sexual “capacity” but the gender that
we are going to spend our capacity don’t have to
be our same sex gender……We all have capacity to
“love” children (pedophilia), to “love” animals
(zoophilia) to “love” dead bodies
(corophilia or necrophilia) etc….Aren’t we all
zoophiles, pedophiles etc….So some people like
to mistake the capacity with the object of desire...
Yea, under some circumstances everybody can become
bi–sexual, homosexual,zoophile, killer, drug
adict, we all have the potential to be junkies,
but that does not mean that we ARE ALL JUNKIES….
that is the distinction between IS and OUGHT TO BE…
that many people mistake…….Another argument is the
phrase ” we should love everybody and see everybodys
beauty”—-the confused bisexuals and homosexuals
think that because they have their emotional
romantic feelings everybody should have them…
But here is the contra argument……I love all my
friends, my parents, my crue, etc….I would die
for them…….I really love them…but that doesn’t
mean that I should feel sexual atraction towards
them….Love is the word that confuse many people,
it represents something beautiful, gorgeus,
so when it is mentioned by the LGBT community
we should feel guilty beacause we are not BISEXUALS
…funny….Mother Tereza wasn’t bisexual XD haha but
she loved all the world…..you see……it is all game
of words….and skillful propaganda…

It is intresty...how the morals of the people have been changed in this 40 years.....sex with the same sex.........was pervesion 40 years ago....now....we ARE ALL BISEXUALS..............this is fault logic....neither science or anything else can't tell us what is right and what is wrong...and are we all bisexuals or not........my opinion is that we are all computers...living in a Matrix...and the christian reality...is the same shit as satanistic reality........bisexuality, homosexuality and heterosexuality,,,are computer programs....not real events......if you ask a priest, homosexual behavior is sicknes in his reality...and for some it is even good.....so it is his word against theirs...nothing more or less........so don't be fooled by this stupid systems..............read about zionists.... all this deconstructionistic theories are not real.........

http://www.cerebromente.org.br/n11/m...ro-homens.html

males and females are very very diferent, biologicaly, psychologicaly and sexualy.............

if you say that you are male, female in male body, or the both etc....that JUST SHOWS the way you watch and see yourself....it depends of the object with whom you identificate with....If you identificate with your mother..you see yourself as female.....and the opposite if you identificate with your father you see yourself as a male...that doesn't mean that every human being have male and female part(but why some female would identificate herself with male, and the opposite :S it sounds stupid to me, but when it is supported by the political agenda and liberal sacred cows it is OK )......The most of the psychologists say that people that identificate theirselfes wrongly about their gender or age....(I am male but I think I am female...and it is not logical....because we all know that human mind is not really logical) than they have GID---gender identity disorder

thethirdeye

29-06-2009, 12:20 PM

September 25, 2006 - In a September 2006 issue of Radical Teacher, Emily Meixner, a teacher of English at The College of New Jersey, describes how she used lesbian, bisexual, gay, transgender and queer literature to bring about attitudinal changes in undergraduate students in an independent study course.

Meixner says she began the program after reading the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network National Climate Survey from 2003 that reported that 84% of LBGTQ students had experienced verbal harassment in school--and that more than 90% had overheard anti-gay sentiments in hallways, bathrooms, locker rooms, and in classrooms.

Meixner was drawn to the use of LBGTQ young adult literature because she "was curious about the power of stories to elicit empathy. I wondered if these stories could provide my students with an opportunity to experience (albeit vicariously) what their future LGBTQ middle and high school students might be going through--their feelings, their struggles, and successes, and the experiences through which they were and were not marginalized."

Her second reason for using LBGTQ literature was to help combat 'heterosexism' and 'homophobia' in the classroom. "At the time, I anticipated that a personal and pedagogical engagement with the literature would produce these kinds of political results."

Five students eventually volunteered for the program. All were heterosexual females with a variety of racial backgrounds and life experiences.

The goal of the course was to "teach queerly," and "'transgress' by requiring us to think beyond specific school or classroom instances of violence and examine the effects of the 'heterosexism' and 'homophobia' present in our own lives and the institutions with which we were associated," said Meixner.

Meixner continued, "At the time, although aware that I could not predict my students' responses to the readings or the course itself, I was fairly certain I had assembled enough evidence for them to understand why too many schools--by failing to advocate for and protect their LBGTQ students--become institutional sites of violence against them."

By mid-semester, Meixner noted a change in the group's responses to the readings. They had developed a heightened awareness of the dangers of cultural stereotypes and began viewing themselves as advocates for LBGTQ students. "In the last month of the course, as my students began to discuss their final projects, they determined that they wanted them to counteract 'heterosexism' and 'homophobia' by providing substantive and socially responsible learning opportunities for the students they would be teaching."

One of the ways they determined to deal with 'heterosexism' and 'homophobia' in the schools was to develop partnerships with public libraries to encourage these institutions to carry more texts "that dealt specifically with issues pertaining to adolescent gender and sexuality."

Meixner is unsure if her students will continue on their journey of becoming radical teachers. "... I worry that without regularly discomfiting experiences, they will lose their desire to look beyond their classrooms--to become radical teachers. Without sustained programmatic support, I fear that they will retreat from their active pursuit of institutional equity and focus their energy and attention on the consciousness-raising methodology that I now believe is not enough to combat 'heterosexism' and 'homophobia.' Even after conducting their research, my students evidenced this shift."

"Certainly, it is a good thing for students to understand how it feels to be socially marginalized," said Dr. Joseph Nicolosi, president of NARTH. "We don't disagree with this teacher's recognition of the need to develop empathy in students. The problem is when students are taught that they must agree with gay activism or be branded 'homophobic' -- and they must not think heterosexuality is the norm, or they will be guilty of 'heterosexism.' It's this new worldview being forced on kids by such teachers that is the crux of the problem." :):):D:D