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Anders Lindman

23-07-2007, 11:48 AM

It's a good idea to let other people control you. In that way, the other person or group of people actually do the work for you. But there is a threshold, a level, that must be reached. If you let a telemarketing person control you, then that is usually not a good idea. :D You must be able to trust the person you allow to control you. One way of doing that is to rely on long-time friendship or partnership, but for me that is.......yuck! I don't want to base my trust solely on past experience. The person I trust may be untrustworthy tomorrow, and I believe that that is up to the other person who has his or her own free will and integrity.

Instead, a much more efficient way of determining whether to trust someone or not is to use intuition, and especially emotional intuition. I don't want to have to use rational thinking for this kind of trust. That's way too slow, messy, burdensome and inaccurate. I want to use Jedi-like reflexes for this. Like a Samurai: if you use rational thinking your opponent will be able to chop your head off before you could even finish the first rational thought. So trust must be like an instinct. A reptile-fast reflex!

Anders Lindman

24-07-2007, 11:56 AM

I forgot at least one exception. When you let your boss control you, then instead of the boss doing the work for you, you will be a slave to the boss and do the work for him or her. That's an altogether repulsive affair. And that's unfortunately a very prevalent theme in today's society.

When you rely on authority, it is you who should make the demands on the authority; not have the authority making demands on you. The whole purpose of authority is as something you can outsource responsibility to, and thus it is the authority that should work for you, and you make the demands, and if the authority is not doing its job properly, you choose another authority to outsource your responsibility to. You are the customer.

myeika

24-07-2007, 12:15 PM

Hi Anders.....

Just wanted to thank you for your post......It was like a reminder from my Ku to take control of the situation today..... ;)

I am at the dentist today and have been thinking about my visit....

Normally I go in there and they just get on and do what they want... but reciently things have changed for me, and I know what I need and dont need!

So you sorta just reminded me, no inforced with me that I can go in there and take control!

Thank you for this...

In Love and service......

Anders Lindman

24-07-2007, 12:40 PM

There is hierarchical control, and there is network control. Today, most of society is based on hierarchical control, meaning a rigid, top-down, power-over pyramid, where those higher up in the pyramid control those below them.

In a network structure, all nodes (persons) have equal power and equal control. If you let other people control you in a hierarchical structure, you will be a slave to those 'above' you. If you let other people control you in a network structure, then they will do the work for you.

Baboon societies, for example, are purely hierarchical. We humans have not outgrown that kind of organization. For authority, hierarchical structures are needed, but it's not the purpose of authority to control people. In a modern society, authorities serve people. In a baboon society, authorities dominate and control people.

Anders Lindman

24-07-2007, 12:42 PM

Anders Lindman

24-07-2007, 01:21 PM

Basically, authority is just a bunch of rules, so hierarchical structures are only needed for practical administrative purposes. If the rules are good and acceptable, there is no need for you to break them, because you accept them and can follow them without having anyone 'above' you needing to control you or dictate to you what to do.

If you go to a doctor, then you can let him or her tell you what to do because the doctor has special equipment and usually more expert knowledge about medical conditions than you have yourself. So the doctor can give you advice and you can make your own decisions based on the advice given. You let the doctor control the medical examination without the doctor being 'above' you in some silly pyramid of control.

Anders Lindman

24-07-2007, 02:04 PM

In my example above, the doctor is not an authority. The doctor is an expert.

The same with the police for example. When a society has good, and for me acceptable laws, then the police doesn't need to control me or tell me what to do. But if I decide: "Screw the law. Screw the police. I'm going to rob someone", then the police becomes an authority in the old sense instead of the police serving me, and then the old type of authority is useful, because by robbing a person I not only break the law but also disregard the integrity of the other person.

myeika

24-07-2007, 07:08 PM

May the Control be with you! :cool:

Hi Anders.....

It sure was thanks :)

Best visit to the dentist I have ever had!

In love and service

Anders Lindman

24-07-2007, 08:37 PM

Hi Anders.....

It sure was thanks :)

Best visit to the dentist I have ever had!

In love and service

Cool.

Anders Lindman

26-07-2007, 11:18 AM

When you let your boss control you, then instead of the boss doing the work for you, you will be a slave to the boss and do the work for him or her. That's an altogether repulsive affair.

Damn! I think I was wrong about this. Just as the doctor, the boss is an expert, not an authority, or at least the 'authority' role is only needed when people don't want to follow the expert's advice. In the case of the boss, he or she is a delegation expert.

yinon

26-07-2007, 03:22 PM

Damn! I think I was wrong about this. Just as the doctor, the boss is an expert, not an authority, or at least the 'authority' role is only needed when people don't want to follow the expert's advice. In the case of the boss, he or she is a delegation expert.

How can you know if your boss in not under the hierarchical control of the Elite?

Many big corporations are submit to the Elite Agenda. They use them to diffuse the new spiritual agenda through publicity and promotion. We are brainwashed with their wrong fundations. If they are blind at the top, how can you support your boss decision? I have few corporations in mind. Lobbyist operate in the shadow to push their own vision.
We are not stupid gang!

Peace is a lie - Religion another one - War an emotional reaction -

The soul is split in half - REPECT THIS SIMPLE TRUTH and we won't have to overuse their hierarchical control

yinon

26-07-2007, 03:29 PM

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yinon

26-07-2007, 03:30 PM

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yinon

26-07-2007, 03:41 PM

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Anders Lindman

26-07-2007, 04:29 PM

How can you know if your boss in not under the hierarchical control of the Elite?

As with the doctor, I must decide if I want to follow the advice given. This may be a drawback sometimes, because it's more convenient to 'just follow orders' as in a hierarchical structure. In a network structure, my actions are my responsibility, and I cannot then blame the boss and say: "my boss told me to do it". So even if my boss is himself or herself under nasty elite control, it is up to me to see through that and base my decisions on that.

Anders Lindman

26-07-2007, 06:07 PM

As with the doctor, I must decide if I want to follow the advice given. This may be a drawback sometimes, because it's more convenient to 'just follow orders' as in a hierarchical structure. In a network structure, my actions are my responsibility, and I cannot then blame the boss and say: "my boss told me to do it". So even if my boss is himself or herself under nasty elite control, it is up to me to see through that and base my decisions on that.

A practical example would be if I get a job at a big company with a hierarchy of bosses. The boss closest or nearest to me or whatever it's called, is my delegation expert. If the company is running ok, and my boss is a good enough delegation manager for me, then I can just go ahead and work with what I have been delegated, but if my boss starts making nasty, or even immoral demands, then it would be a good idea for me to try to find another job, or at least another position within the company. Also, even if I can get along quite well with my boss, I may find out that the top managers of the company are a ruthless bunch of psychopaths. Then maybe I should consider trying to find another job and move away from that company.

yinon

26-07-2007, 06:49 PM

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How can you not be parano?

Here's another one for few good friends

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yinon

26-07-2007, 06:56 PM

A practical example would be if I get a job at a big company with a hierarchy of bosses. The boss closest or nearest to me or whatever it's called, is my delegation expert. If the company is running ok, and my boss is a good enough delegation manager for me, then I can just go ahead and work with what I have been delegated, but if my boss starts making nasty, or even immoral demands, then it would be a good idea for me to try to find another job, or at least another position within the company. Also, even if I can get along quite well with my boss, I may find out that the top managers of the company are a ruthless bunch of psychopaths. Then maybe I should consider trying to find another job and move away from that company.

Then maybe I should consider trying to find another job and move away from that company.

lol. You must be rich Anders to talk as you talk. Not all have the courage
to transform their life.... To do it they need support and I know that you know it! Exactly what i have done to realize later that I have many ennemies.

I have a journalist in mind. He lost his job because he had the courage to face them and he loves what he is doing. How can you stay jounalist when you know how the machine works?

Anders Lindman

26-07-2007, 07:03 PM

Then maybe I should consider trying to find another job and move away from that company.

lol. You must be rich Anders to talk as you talk. Not all have the courage
to transform their life.... To do it they need support and I know that you know it! Exactly what i have done to realize later that I have many ennemies.

I have a journalist in mind. He lost his job because he had the courage to face them and he loves what he is doing. How can you stay jounalist when you know how the machine works?

Absolutely, it is difficult to move away from a job if it will be difficult for me to get another job. But I can at least begin to think in this direction, and even that simple thing will improve my courage.

The error the journalist did, was to fight them while still being dependent on them. It's better to first just walk away and then fight them. Or I myself would just walk away and not fight them. Or only fight them after I had started my alternative media channel.

Like David Icke says: "It's a piece of shit. Just walk away." :D