Habits

[chandrakavi]

Our habits can come to a point were if repeatedly made can by
our enemies be used against us. Knowing our tastes, schedules, likings and deslikings, imitating our opinions(speaking , and repeating them doesn't mean they believe them ,they are talking in your language, the way you like to see things, it is like talking in a different language, not believing it ,not attached).

If you break the pattern, the schedule, the way of thinking, likes and deslikes, they will not be able to put a label on you and control you easily.

They will look friendly, but will always be your enemies, looking as if they want to help you out, but simply are out to get INFORMATION for themselves
to see how the MANIPULATION can be improved.

When someone is taken to court and is told "everything that you do or say can and will be used against you", that's exactly what the Illuminati will always do ,with the exception that they are not telling you, they are simply doing it ,and mocking at you.

Illuminati IS A STATE OF MIND, the person does not have to work necessarily for the politicians, but would do a fine job if they did, and maybe will end up with them, or very close so.

Playing on people's habits is what behaviorist do, to modify your behavior, to change you, remember an enemy ALWAYS wants to change you ,so you end up beeing and agreeing with him, and serving him. To CONTROL your moods,
then they've got you , you are their slave.

So being unpredictable with them is the best, predictable the worst.
With your friends only, real friends, you can relax.

The reason why they are interested in trying to CHANGE YOU, is because they are void os spiritual understanding of themselves, AFRAID OF KNOWING THEMSELVES, because they know that if they see themselves in the inner they will suffer, and are afraid to, so the ytry to fix someone elses life,
they look at people as if they are on top, and whoever they see is at the bottom.

A real relationship is when two people are always and truly standinng in front
of each other, no one is higher no one is lower, no one is "higher than thou",
facing each other with no masks, no ego, and from the heart, , the rest is the hypocrite political manipulation ,a fake that does not want you to realize that IT IS A FAKE, a good fake that looks real , but is not so.

The true warmth of people can be FELT, in silence most of the time, not in listening to too much talk ,because in silence, no warmth can be felt, you can really feel how they are ,from the mind, a false one, out to get everyone,
where you are also included.

These people NEED LOVE, or else they wouldn't be unhappy like the Illuminati struggling only for power, living in a world without LOVE.

Socrates when he was being judged in the apology, says " They are so strong they have almost made me forget who I am", that's exactly so, they
see what the world of human needs that can be covered with money is, but besides that they know they are void. They can not have BOTH WORLDS
material and spiritual , which is the balance.

So be careful of repetitions, of what a person says all the time, it means he or she will do that.
And don't let them manipulate your life as politicians have always done.
As David Icke has said Politics means "a blood sucking insect"
So what else can you expect?

Hide your habits, live in love, and never let them forget who you are,
knowing who you are is the meaning of Meditation, and life, and happiness.
Never deceive yourself, be true and know yourself.

[chandrakavi]

The longest voyage
is FROM THE HEAD TO THE HEART :D

[chandrakavi]

Illuminati is a state of mind, they don't necessarily have to work for the politicians, although they would do a great job for the Illuminati if they did.

Being an Illuminati does not mean working for the government only.

[nikolaijovanovic]

[QUOTE=chandrakavi;158673]Illuminati is a state of mind, QUOTE]

I think this is the point. The feelings of oppression etc are real, I don't doubtthat. But I am the most cynical person you can imagine. I don't believe anyone, and this is the last of my worries.

I have far more importast fish to fry than a load of idiots in aprons wittering on about the temple of Solomon.
People starving when there is more than enough food in the world. Clean water being a luxury for the majority of the planet for another. Poor people exploited by greedy corporations. Criminals like Union Carbide getting away with paying 10,000 rupees to the victims of their negligence.

Now that is worth getting angry about. Frankly the 'Great Plot to Enslave Us' all is way down my to-do list.

[adimon]

Our habits can come to a point were if repeatedly made can by
our enemies be used against us.

If you break the pattern, the schedule, the way of thinking, likes and deslikes, they will not be able to put a label on you and control you easily.

Playing on people's habits is what behaviorist do, to modify your behavior, to change you, remember an enemy ALWAYS wants to change you ,so you end up beeing and agreeing with him, and serving him. To CONTROL your moods,
then they've got you , you are their slave.

So being unpredictable with them is the best, predictable the worst.
With your friends only, real friends, you can relax.

Do you have any tips to suggest? Are we not naturally creatures of habit though? Is it not pretty stressful to exhibit deceptive behaviour as well as emotive behaviour?

As David Icke has said Politics means "a blood sucking insect"

Hide your habits, live in love, and never let them forget who you are,
knowing who you are is the meaning of Meditation, and life, and happiness.
Never deceive yourself, be true and know yourself.

It seems to be that believing all politics is blood-sucking insects could constitute a habit. Do you ever pretend you see value in some areas of politics? Is Icke not political in many ways?

Politics is a far bigger thing than party-politics. I know most people on this forum seem to believe that party politics is controlled from above, but what about the rebels fighting the tide?

[chandrakavi]

If you have seen what behaviorists have done, to alter people.
It's up to you to avoid being programmed. If not stay the way you are.

You seem to like politics, you still believe in politicians as respectful people,
no, I see nothing respectful in a large Maffia, no matter how powerful they are, MIGHT IS NOT RIGHT.

What David Icke tells---is the truth, telling the truth is not being political,
I suggest you read some books of David Icke, see what his analysis are,
instead of having a media opinion, without you doing any reading on it.
What books of David Icke have you read.? if any?
Titles?
If you had read any of them, you would have many of your questions answered,
If you are interested in the answer, not merely posing the question.
You can be "a creature of habit" if you want, and not be a "creature of habit" if you decide to stop being a cousin of the apes, it's a personal decision.

Have politicians ever lied to you?....Do they tell you the truth?, wars?
corruption?
I presume you to be an Ok guy, wether you agree with me or not, that's beside the point, But they are not OK, and continue in time to prove they are not worthy of your trust, take a look at what THEY DO, not at what they SAY...
Are you alive thanks to them or merely due to your own work?
Or are you one of them?...

[adimon]

chandrakavi said:-

You seem to like politics, you still believe in politicians as respectful people,
no, I see nothing respectful in a large Maffia, no matter how powerful they are, MIGHT IS NOT RIGHT.

Yes, I have a large amount of friends who work in politics. Remember there is more than just parliament/senate/congress in the world. Politics is a lot more complex than that. I think you're silly just to dismiss it. Most politicians I know are trying to do what they think is right, even many of the ones I don't agree with at all.

Mafia is an interesting term. What comparisons do you draw between organised crime and legislation?

What David Icke tells---is the truth

All of it? And you can be absolutely SURE of that?

telling the truth is not being political,

Please explain why you believe this to be true.

I suggest you read some books of David Icke, see what his analysis are,
instead of having a media opinion, without you doing any reading on it.

Oh thanks for telling me I had a media opinion - I was so blind before, and now I can see...no wait...maybe I have got a valid opinion drawn from valid experience and valid research. Yep, that's right. Sorry went funny for a minute there.

What books of David Icke have you read.? if any?
THE SECRET HISTORY OF USA
ALICE IN WONDERLAND & WTC
HOW BUSH AND BLAIR KNEW THE CHINA SCENARIO
REPTILIAN RESEARCH ARCHIVES
SINCE WHEN IS THE TRUTH NEGATIVE
THE HIDDEN GEARS OF FREEMASONRY
THE ILLUMINATI MILLENNIUM RITUALS
THE REPTILIAN CONNECTION
THE ROTHSCHILD DYNASTY
THE ROUND TABLE BILDERBERG NETWORK
WAS HITLER A ROTHSCHILD?
CHILDREN OF THE MATRIX
THE BIGGEST SECRET
I AM ME I AM FREE
and quite a few of his earlier ones that I can't remember the titles of.

If you had read any of them, you would have many of your questions answered,

You seemed to have already judged me and made up your mind that I hadn't read any!

If you are interested in the answer, not merely posing the question.

Some of what Icke says I agree with. Other stuff I'm not so sure on. Other stuff yet I think is pure bullshit. Is that the answer I should have got, or did I read it wrong? Maybe I posed the question wrong as you suggest. Silly me.

You can be "a creature of habit" if you want, and not be a "creature of habit" if you decide to stop being a cousin of the apes, it's a personal decision.

Oh right, so if I disagree with you I'm more simian than you. Oh, ok, I didnt know that. Thanks for your enlightenment.

Have politicians ever lied to you?....Do they tell you the truth?, wars?
corruption?

Yes, Yes, Yes and Yes.

I presume you to be an Ok guy, wether you agree with me or not, that's beside the point,

Actually, I posted on your thread to ask you some questions because I was genuinely interested in whether you had suggestions on how to break up your routine and eschew habits, but you were so kind and unpatronising to me with your words, I felt compelled to write so much more than I had intended.

But they are not OK, and continue in time to prove they are not worthy of your trust, take a look at what THEY DO, not at what they SAY...

THEY? As in John Carpenter's "They Live"?

Are you alive thanks to them or merely due to your own work?

Bit of both I'd say, like everyone else.

Or are you one of them?...

Do you want to know if I'm a politician?
Or if I'm an Illuminated Seer of Bavaria?
Or a mason?
Or a reptile?
Or some generic NWO type evil man?

Maybe I'm just me and you shouldn't try to pigeon hole me, and should not jump down someone's throat when they ask you for clarification and expansion. :mad:

I can't recommend calling people simian to impress them either. :mad:

[chandrakavi]

If you doubt David icke, I wonder why visit websites you don't like?
you say you have read all of David icke's books if you had, you would
have your questions answered.

Didn't mean to hurt you in any way, if I did I'm sorry about that.
It was not my intention. In this website we deal with different ideas all different points of views, attack ideas, nothing personal. I understand you can disagree with some of the Icke stuff, many people don't or have doubts with other stuff, I can understand that.

I wanted in this thread point out what BEHAVIORISTS PSYCHOLOGISTS,
have done to program people,

It is about this technique that is used on the many.
Read about this if you haven't, if you have fine.

In politicians there may be a few with good intentions,
the exception that confirms the rule,
sorry, but we won't agree on this point,

Best to you,

[adimon]

If you doubt David icke, I wonder why visit websites you don't like?

I do like this website. As I said before, I agree with some of what DI says, but not all. Hanging on his every word is not a prerequisite for membership as far as I can see. :)

you say you have read all of David icke's books if you had, you would
have your questions answered.

I don't start to read a book with specific questions in mind that I want it to answer, I read what is written and then analyse and research and cross-reference it.

Why do you say that I "would have had" my questions answered? Because that's what happened to you? Or because you know me so well?

I wanted in this thread point out what BEHAVIORISTS PSYCHOLOGISTS,
have done to program people,
It is about this technique that is used on the many.
Read about this if you haven't, if you have fine.

That's great, and I'm glad you did, but my question, which I now ask for the third time, is- "Do you have any tips/suggestions as to how to break habit in my life?"

I'm happy to agree to differ on politics - lets concentrate on the habits?

[chandrakavi]

On breaking habits, which can only be done by ourselves,
one should be able to recognize if you are being LED to
ACT, which is the best, or MERELY REACT, which is the worse,
It happens to All of us,
we are being led in one way or another to REACT,
by the media, whatever we think of it, we all watch it more or less,
TV,RADIO, NESPAPERS etc.
and meet people that have had being led to think the same way

When one ACTS, takes action, one is not reacting to what a third party is saying.

When one is insulted one is being led to REACT, it is up to each one
to do it or not. Most of us do at some time, until we become aware of what is happening, and stop reacting with anger, or any other feeling as it is expected of us. If you break that pattern yourself, without the help of others then you can say there is progress, you have changed a habit.

Example: Let's say a guy almost bumps into your car, and although the other
guy did the wrong driving, he gets out of the car, and starts insulting you,
with cuzz words, and saying what a bad driver you are.

You have two options 1) Insult him back 2) not fall at his level into all that negativity and simply decide not to answer back.
Sometimes silence speaks louder than screaming, but most people scream,
If you do the second option , you are aware of what you are doing. If you take the first, the other guy's anger has gotten you into reacting.
This IS NOT AN EASY THING.

Watch how many péople REACT to other people's actions.
attachment, to the way you set up things at home, with no change,
Always working on a same schedule, no change by you on that.

As it has been said many times: "Our golden cage may be valuable to us; it is not valuable tothe bird inside. For the bird to be free in the sky is the only
valuable thing in life. And the same is true for all human beings"

Observe when your actions are your own, and when you have been subtly influenced by others, by many mechanisms. When you are doing things on your own, or when (what we all do) turn the automatic pilot on many things,
like love, which cannot happen, if it is not done personally by one self.

If you have any ideas on this they are most welcome

Thank you
INFINITE LOVE TO YOU