Taking pride in participation

[william_mac]

I did this primarily as an example that I not only speak out on government issues and promote education and action, but I also take action myself every time I get the chance to, regardless of how effective, or seemingly ineffective it may be.

Everytime i send a letter to a senator or representative, or sign a petition, or stage a protest, I will begin posting it up for people to see, in order to show them that I too am not just talking, but taking action.

The following link goes to a 55 second question I posed to the CNN and YouTube sponsored Democratic Presidential Debate that allows people to submit questions via YouTube. It will be aired on Monday.

Preserving Net Neutrality (http://youtube.com/watch?v=vySqgNZLX-g)

[thomascovenant]

You don`t need to prove anything.
Maybe you can inspire people to stand up and be heard.
After all, in the 5-sense sense (sorry, couldn`t resist) a voice is all we have.
If we don`t use it, we may as well just roll over and die.

[william_mac]

You don`t need to prove anything.
Maybe you can inspire people to stand up and be heard.
After all, in the 5-sense sense (sorry, couldn`t resist) a voice is all we have.
If we don`t use it, we may as well just roll over and die.

On the contrary, I do need to prove something. I need to prove to my viewership and my readers that I am not simply sitting here behind my computer inside of my house ranting against the fact that my generation is uneducated, and is not taking action.

It is important for me to practice what I preach, so to speak. It is important for people to see that I am acting on the very things I am speaking about. This sets an example, and promotes a mentality that if "he can do it, so can I". What kind of person would I be if I did not illustrate this? Indeed, the answer is that I would be a hypocrite.



-William-Mac.com

[thomascovenant]

ranting is action.

[william_mac]

ranting is action.

I'm going to have to strongly disagree with that. Ranting is just ranting, and it accomplishes nothing at all. One might as well cry out in a vacuum if they are going to rant, or scream for help in space, no one is going to hear them.

Action, pure, and tangible action, the likes of which proves to be useful in all aspects, is the only thing that will even partially aid in curing a problem, or furthering an agenda of any time.

The problem with us so called activist, is that we really don't act on a fucking thing. We see our ideas as merely that, ideas, and we seldom work them into action, primarily because we are afraid. This is sickening. This is wrong. This is nothingness incarnate.

Speaking about these things, and not acting, is like the drunken degenerate reclining in the Lazy Boy whilst shouting at the news, and guzzling a 40oz. He thinks he's performing some kind of radical action, but his actions do nothing.

Speaking about these things on blogs, and forums, and chat rooms, and with other people may seem like the word is being spread, but without the demonstration of action everyone is only going to keep talking, and commenting, and growing incontent.

When you tell me that "ranting is action" and then believe the things you've said in both posts on this thread, i can only say that I fucking pity you. Not you as a person, but you as a lethargic personality. It makes me sick, it makes me angry, and it lends to yours, mine, and everyone else's problem!

You CAN'T sit there and tell me that ranting is some kind of important action. What are you going to do? Let everyone else do the work? What do you think? Do you think that some how you're a magic being who's ideas and rants are some how effecting people?

You can't tell me that inspiring other people to take action is action, if you yourself don't do a fucking thing. Yes! Let's tell everyone to go out and do something, while we ourselves sit back and relax, because at least we told someone else to do it.

YOU HAVE TO DO IT TOO!

You've GOT to fucking with me. Jesus this has made me so angry I can't contain myself. I want to scream.



-William-Mac.com

[montag]

Good stuff William-Mac, here is a letter I sent recently to opposition leader Kevin Rudd regarding his parties education reforms..

My letter to him;

Hello Mr. Rudd, I'm writing to give you my opinion on your education
reforms
as stated in this article.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/rudd-vows-education-revolution/2007/
01/22/1169330827940.html
I take exception to having my children referred to as human capital and
economic investment.. I'm not raising my children to be fodder for your
economic agenda, their life is not about providing a good bottom line
for
your mates in the business world..

Who are the real beneficiaries of your education revolution? The
children?
Or the economic world order?
Who do you work for Mr. Rudd? My guess is for the same people that mug
Howard is..

Kevin Rudd's response;

Dear Jamie,

Thank you for taking the time to send me your response to our Education
Revolution.

It is true that Labor's New Directions paper on education points to a
future of economic prosperity, because we see education as essential to
a strong Australian economy.

In that context we use the language of economics. In arguing that human
capital investment is at the heart of economic reform, I did not intend
to diminish individual human worth. Rather I intended to highlight the
potential for each human being to contribute to the prosperity of
Australia as a whole, and to position Australia as a competitive,
innovative, knowledge-based economy that can compete and win in global
markets. Our children are very special and contribute to the quality and
joy of our lives in so many ways.

Labor's Education Revolution is a broad strategy, and within that are
numerous policies to restore the right of all children to realise their
potential.

The "New Directions" we have announced so far include giving all
Australian four year olds the right to early childhood education;
boosting the numeracy and literacy skills of all children; investing in
a National Asian Languages in Schools program; providing financial
incentives to university students to study and teach maths and science;
funding the construction of shared facilities between government and
non-government schools; and, most recently announced, seeing new trades
training centres built in Australia's secondary schools; developing a
rigorous, consistent and quality curriculum for all Australian students
from kindergarten to Year 12.

These initiatives all relate to the prospect of personal fulfilment for
students undertaking any course of study, at any level, in any
educational institution in Australia. They are pointers to the new
direction which Labor wants Australia to take. You can view these
policies as they continue to be released on our website:

www.alp.org.au

My sincere apologies for having caused you offence.


Kind regards,

Kevin Rudd
Federal Labor Leader
Member for Griffith

[cruise4]

I agree... we have to do something or its just so much hot air. WHAT to do is the choice for the individual. None of us are all-knowing I suspect and if someone says praying/channelling/spirituality is the way forward for them... who am I to say they are wrong? My issue with this is what if it doesn't work?
For example lets imagine the whole world ascends in 2012. Our activist efforts would have been wasted maybe... but can we take that chance? I say No.

I have just written to the Co-op about the apalling Global Warming tissue of lies they just printed in their Summer 2007 magazine. Another sell out organisation on this and other issues. I shall be leafleting their car park next time I'm there.

[thomascovenant]

WM.judge me all you like.Prick.

[i_am]

Hey thomas Calm down mate :)

I agree with you. Some of us prefer to just do things. We don't need acknowledgement. We don't need to be seen to be doing things. The important thing is doing them. William is doing some great work. If he needs to prove it to himself or anyone else, that is his trip.

When you tell me that "ranting is action" and then believe the things you've said in both posts on this thread, i can only say that I fucking pity you. Not you as a person, but you as a lethargic personality. It makes me sick, it makes me angry, and it lends to yours, mine, and everyone else's problem!

You CAN'T sit there and tell me that ranting is some kind of important action. What are you going to do? Let everyone else do the work? What do you think? Do you think that some how you're a magic being who's ideas and rants are some how effecting people?

You can't tell me that inspiring other people to take action is action, if you yourself don't do a fucking thing. Yes! Let's tell everyone to go out and do something, while we ourselves sit back and relax, because at least we told someone else to do it.

YOU HAVE TO DO IT TOO!

You've GOT to fucking with me. Jesus this has made me so angry I can't contain myself. I want to scream.

William, you are passionate about what you are doing. That is obvious however, I think it would be a good idea if you didn't attack other members who don't see things the same way as you do. How do you know what anyone is doing? We don't all need to shout it from the rooftops but we are all on the one side.

Aren't we??

[william_mac]

Hey thomas Calm down mate :)

I agree with you. Some of us prefer to just do things. We don't need acknowledgement. We don't need to be seen to be doing things. The important thing is doing them. William is doing some great work. If he needs to prove it to himself or anyone else, that is his trip.



William, you are passionate about what you are doing. That is obvious however, I think it would be a good idea if you didn't attack other members who don't see things the same way as you do. How do you know what anyone is doing? We don't all need to shout it from the rooftops but we are all on the one side.

Aren't we??

I don't think you're quite understanding what I was attempting to do. I'm not trying to prove myself, I'm not trying to show off, I'm not trying to be better than anyone.

I speak often about these these things, have begun a website, am trying to spread the word to people aboue their obligation to action, and so forth. I thought it important to demonstrate that I was participating and not just asking others to. I can talk all I want, but actually letting other people know that I'm willingly taking part in what I talk about, is incredibly important.

I love to see people participating. If I don't see people do these things, I get worried. And I think it is the same way for a lot of other people.

As far as Thomas' comments, I was very civil to him on his first post. When he comes right back around again, and then says "ranting is action" then I couldn't hold the pose anymore. That is one of the most insane things I've ever heard in my life. And I"m COMPLETELY right on my stance. It came right out of his finger tips "ranting is action". No, ranting is not action.

Perhaps the cussing wasn't right, and perhaps I blew my top at the end of the comment, in fact I did. Yet, for good or ill, this is how I react to things sometimes, it doesn't mean that I'm any less right, I began civil, and simply worked myself up at the end, what can I say? I got angry. It's nothing to be ashamed about, and it certainly wasn't judging him, as far as I can tell I was getting angry at something he said, it's right there in black and white, how is that judging? I didn't say anything against him as a person, I responded strictly to what he said.



-William

[william_mac]

I agree... we have to do something or its just so much hot air. WHAT to do is the choice for the individual. None of us are all-knowing I suspect and if someone says praying/channelling/spirituality is the way forward for them... who am I to say they are wrong? My issue with this is what if it doesn't work?
For example lets imagine the whole world ascends in 2012. Our activist efforts would have been wasted maybe... but can we take that chance? I say No.

I have just written to the Co-op about the apalling Global Warming tissue of lies they just printed in their Summer 2007 magazine. Another sell out organisation on this and other issues. I shall be leafleting their car park next time I'm there.

Yes. Perhaps it all doesn't matter, and perhaps it's useless. That doesn't pardon people from doing it anyway. It's not activism in the hard, nailbiting, extreme form where people word very hard towards a revolutionary goal. Not at all.

Just write an article, send a letter, sign a petition, make a little video. Just make it something tangible. These are all very easy things to do.

And look, you're doing something awsome! And it was simple. You wrote a letter.

That's what I like to see, I just want to know that people are doing these things. If I know this, then i feel a lot better.

Anyway, I completely agree. I'm actually fairly certain it's all pointless. I'm just going to do it anyway, fuck it. Hah hah.



-William

[william_mac]

WM.judge me all you like.Prick.

Thomas, I got angry. I'm sorry. I unintentially launched a personal attack on your character, in which I do not know much about, instead of the issue I was angry about. For that I apologize, and I hope you don't think I was judging you as a person, I was simply judging the words you wrote.

I have a tendancy to be very hot headed, but I always make sure that I allow myself to calm down and issue an apology when it is needed, and in this case it is. That doesn't mean I'm retracting my comments on what you said, but I needed to clear up that I have NO right to judge your personality or your lifestyle. I have no right to speak about you as if I know you.

And I'll make sure somethingn like this doesn't happen again. Bare with me, I make mistakes when I argue. I really did just get a little too angry, is all, and I didn't pay attention to what I was saying, and how it might affect you.



-William

[william_mac]

Good stuff William-Mac, here is a letter I sent recently to opposition leader Kevin Rudd regarding his parties education reforms..

My letter to him;

Hello Mr. Rudd, I'm writing to give you my opinion on your education
reforms
as stated in this article.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/rudd-vows-education-revolution/2007/
01/22/1169330827940.html
I take exception to having my children referred to as human capital and
economic investment.. I'm not raising my children to be fodder for your
economic agenda, their life is not about providing a good bottom line
for
your mates in the business world..

Who are the real beneficiaries of your education revolution? The
children?
Or the economic world order?
Who do you work for Mr. Rudd? My guess is for the same people that mug
Howard is..

Kevin Rudd's response;

Dear Jamie,

Thank you for taking the time to send me your response to our Education
Revolution.

It is true that Labor's New Directions paper on education points to a
future of economic prosperity, because we see education as essential to
a strong Australian economy.

In that context we use the language of economics. In arguing that human
capital investment is at the heart of economic reform, I did not intend
to diminish individual human worth. Rather I intended to highlight the
potential for each human being to contribute to the prosperity of
Australia as a whole, and to position Australia as a competitive,
innovative, knowledge-based economy that can compete and win in global
markets. Our children are very special and contribute to the quality and
joy of our lives in so many ways.

Labor's Education Revolution is a broad strategy, and within that are
numerous policies to restore the right of all children to realise their
potential.

The "New Directions" we have announced so far include giving all
Australian four year olds the right to early childhood education;
boosting the numeracy and literacy skills of all children; investing in
a National Asian Languages in Schools program; providing financial
incentives to university students to study and teach maths and science;
funding the construction of shared facilities between government and
non-government schools; and, most recently announced, seeing new trades
training centres built in Australia's secondary schools; developing a
rigorous, consistent and quality curriculum for all Australian students
from kindergarten to Year 12.

These initiatives all relate to the prospect of personal fulfilment for
students undertaking any course of study, at any level, in any
educational institution in Australia. They are pointers to the new
direction which Labor wants Australia to take. You can view these
policies as they continue to be released on our website:

www.alp.org.au

My sincere apologies for having caused you offence.


Kind regards,

Kevin Rudd
Federal Labor Leader
Member for Griffith

I clicked on the link to find the original article, but I couldn't. From your letter and his response, however, It seems pretty clear as to what it said.

First off: YAY! I'm so happy people are writing letters and paying attention! Especially to stuff like this. Education reforms really have to be paid attention to, man they get me going. I am very bitter towards the American educational system, and it looks like they're using the same economically minded system there. Churning kids out as economic sprogs and cockets, it's utterly ridiculous! In my video (www.william-mac.com) I said "never mind education for education's sake, never mind free thought" and I think it holds true here.

Second off: He fucking wrote back! Brilliant! I send letters to people here and I don't get a word back. I get an automated response, yet, I still keep on sending the damned things. That is so cool, I think it's commendable that he spent the time to write back, I think that is a good thing for him as a person. However much I do disagree with what he said.

It seems as though he believes that, in order to measure the success of how well the school system is doing, he'll have to first measure the success of the economy. This is dangerous, it makes room for people to reform a school system as such to where people are not free thinkers, or necissarily educated, but only knowledgable enough that they will make good workers in a particular aspect of the economy.

It's quite common sense that the best workers are the push-overs, the drones, and the non-thinkers with a few firm handshaking skills and jokes up thier sleeve. And the rest of the ones that climb the rakes are just slithering snakes out for themselves. A hierarchy, if you will.

Either way, he did write back, and he spent the time to. That is very commendable in my opinion.

So cool, thanks for sharing that.



-William

[i_am]

Bravo William ;)

We have 7000 members here, all in different stages of their evolution. Some only woke up weeks ago, some of us many years ago. We all have different priorities. We all have different ways of handling the knowledge we have acquired. If we are ranting to someone in the pub, we are standing up and being counted.

[i_am]

Either way, he did write back, and he spent the time to. That is very commendable in my opinion.

So cool, thanks for sharing that.



-William

Just a note on Keven Rudd. He comes from Brisbane and I was talking to people in his electorate one day. They said he is the most genuine person and he always responds to invitations for fundraising/charity events, unlike 99% of the other politicians and community leaders who do not even acknowledge the invitation. They told me of times that he has donated bikes to needy kids and that he quite often got in, rolled his sleeves up and cooked the barbecue or helped out in other ways.

If he becomes our next prime minister though, how will that change him and what if he does not play the game? The education system sucks!

[william_mac]

Just a note on Keven Rudd. He comes from Brisbane and I was talking to people in his electorate one day. They said he is the most genuine person and he always responds to invitations for fundraising/charity events, unlike 99% of the other politicians and community leaders who do not even acknowledge the invitation. They told me of times that he has donated bikes to needy kids and that he quite often got in, rolled his sleeves up and cooked the barbecue or helped out in other ways.

If he becomes our next prime minister though, how will that change him and what if he does not play the game? The education system sucks!

Ooohhh, so he's trying to get elected to that? Has he always been this responsive before?

I wish that my own senators and representatives would just respond as well. I just want to know that my opinion is being heard, and that it was at least read.

I don't know much about what is going on in Australia, I do write for a guy based on the Gold Coast, though. I think it's interesting that the same educational problems are going on there.

I'm just so saddened by that. I'm a high school dropout, I never did well in school. I tried college, but I didn't do well in that either. Yes, I absolutely love learning, I love it so much and I have such a passion for it, and I get so excited to learn new things, but no one else my age, or who are in high school or college, seem to share this with me. I tell people what I'm learning about quantum mechanics, or history, or pshychology, or what new author I found, some obscure old book I found. I tell them about America's past political history, but they just shrug it off, tell me to stop talking about it so much.

That's what I just don't get. The schools never wanted to hear or discuss about what I was learning on my own, just what they were teaching me. And that's what I wonder about now, what happened to people who guininly want kids to simply learn, learn about everything. Kids who simply enjoy learning. I don't think it's about getting a job, I think it's about being educated for education's sake.

That's why I'm bitter towards the whole thing. Perhaps if he does become prime minister, and if he keeps up this amazingly responsive attitutude, then it will be much easier for people to band together for a common cause and exert more influence, and he'll listen. That would be quite amazing wouldn't it.



-William

[i_am]

Ooohhh, so he's trying to get elected to that? Has he always been this responsive before?
I wish that my own senators and representatives would just respond as well. I just want to know that my opinion is being heard, and that it was at least read.

I don't know much about what is going on in Australia, I do write for a guy based on the Gold Coast, though. I think it's interesting that the same educational problems are going on there.

I'm just so saddened by that. I'm a high school dropout, I never did well in school. I tried college, but I didn't do well in that either. Yes, I absolutely love learning, I love it so much and I have such a passion for it, and I get so excited to learn new things, but no one else my age, or who are in high school or college, seem to share this with me. I tell people what I'm learning about quantum mechanics, or history, or pshychology, or what new author I found, some obscure old book I found. I tell them about America's past political history, but they just shrug it off, tell me to stop talking about it so much.

That's what I just don't get. The schools never wanted to hear or discuss about what I was learning on my own, just what they were teaching me. And that's what I wonder about now, what happened to people who guininly want kids to simply learn, learn about everything. Kids who simply enjoy learning. I don't think it's about getting a job, I think it's about being educated for education's sake.

That's why I'm bitter towards the whole thing. Perhaps if he does become prime minister, and if he keeps up this amazingly responsive attitutude, then it will be much easier for people to band together for a common cause and exert more influence, and he'll listen. That would be quite amazing wouldn't it.



-William

Yes, that was long before he was pushed forward into the leadership.

I couldn't agree more about the education system. I left school at 14 but have more 'knowledge' about the things that matter than most who have gone to university. My children and grandchild (one is still too young but she is a rebel too :)) have all bucked the sytem (god love 'em) and are very clued up. They have great jobs that they love and have their priorities right.

I think one of my son's teachers summed it up. After being called to the school for the hundredth time, he told me that my son was a clever boy and was also very funny. The only problem was that he took over the class. I replied that it was a pity they could not harness that energy and channel into something positive. The reply? We don't have the time or the resources for the individual. They must conform to the mainstream curriculum or they will be suspended. Was he suspended? yep!! Continually!! Did it affect his life? Yep!! For the better.

[thomascovenant]

Thanks WM, this means a lot to me.

I wll not go on about my own purposes and needs but I will say this;

In the time that I have been away, I have done some things that I consider important.

It is not my style to bang on about what "I" have done.

If you people never understand me, thats fine by me.I don`t do what I do for recognition.I do what is right when it needs to be done.

And I promise, when it matters and you need someone to stand up for what is right.You`ll see who I am.

[Anders Lindman]

I did this primarily as an example that I not only speak out on government issues and promote education and action, but I also take action myself every time I get the chance to, regardless of how effective, or seemingly ineffective it may be.

Everytime i send a letter to a senator or representative, or sign a petition, or stage a protest, I will begin posting it up for people to see, in order to show them that I too am not just talking, but taking action.

The following link goes to a 55 second question I posed to the CNN and YouTube sponsored Democratic Presidential Debate that allows people to submit questions via YouTube. It will be aired on Monday.

Preserving Net Neutrality (http://youtube.com/watch?v=vySqgNZLX-g)


Wouldn't it be better to have no regulations at all? And let a free and competitive market automatically sort it out?

[william_mac]

Wouldn't it be better to have no regulations at all? And let a free and competitive market automatically sort it out?

A free and competitive market is already on the internet. Bellsouth, Verizon, and AT&T want to buy the internet itself. If that happens, then it will be regulated and centralized. There are all sorts of videos on www.savetheinternet.org you can watch or other places you can go to get a quick understanding.



-William

[Anders Lindman]

A free and competitive market is already on the internet. Bellsouth, Verizon, and AT&T want to buy the internet itself. If that happens, then it will be regulated and centralized. There are all sorts of videos on www.savetheinternet.org you can watch or other places you can go to get a quick understanding.


But what we have today is not a free and competitive market. The regulations, the monetary system and the financial markets serve elitist interests leading to more and more centralization, even in the business world where corporations become bigger and fewer leading to more and more monopolies, and an ever increase of power in the hands of a few.

Bring in Ron Paul to sort out that mess!

[william_mac]

But what we have today is not a free and competitive market. The regulations, the monetary system and the financial markets serve elitist interests leading to more and more centralization, even in the business world where corporations become bigger and fewer leading to more and more monopolies, and an ever increase of power in the hands of a few.

Bring in Ron Paul to sort out that mess!

Well, it certainly won't help to get rid of the free and neutral internet where people can freely exchange ideas. We have to defend what we have, as well as change what is already established.



-William

[Anders Lindman]

Well, it certainly won't help to get rid of the free and neutral internet where people can freely exchange ideas. We have to defend what we have, as well as change what is already established.


Vint Cerf has stated, "The Internet was designed with no gatekeepers over new content or services. A lightweight but enforceable neutrality rule is needed to ensure that the Internet continues to thrive."

Ok, that kind of regulation may be beneficial, but I think regulations as much as possible should be avoided. They almost always lead to more regulations, more annexes and the whole thing becomes a total mess.

[Anders Lindman]

Vint Cerf has stated, "The Internet was designed with no gatekeepers over new content or services. A lightweight but enforceable neutrality rule is needed to ensure that the Internet continues to thrive."

Ok, that kind of regulation may be beneficial, but I think regulations as much as possible should be avoided. They almost always lead to more regulations, more annexes and the whole thing becomes a total mess.

And there are practical problems with this. Let's say that AT&T blocks a certain application on the Internet. Then the users may hire lawyers to file a lawsuit against AT&T for breaking the network neutrality regulation. And then AT&T can simply say: "Yes, we are aware of this problem. It's a technical problem in our system. We are working hard trying to solve it. Our customers can rest assured that this is not an intentional blocking, and that the problem soon will be solved". Hence, no lawsuit can be filed against AT&T in this case, because it's only a temporary technical problem they say. And if AT&T becomes a monopoly, then customers would not be able to choose another provider, and the net neutrality regulation would be essentially worthless.

A net neutrality regulation that says that no blocking of any kind is allowed could be useful. But is it possible to create such regulation in practice?

[william_mac]

And there are practical problems with this. Let's say that AT&T blocks a certain application on the Internet. Then the users may hire lawyers to file a lawsuit against AT&T for breaking the network neutrality regulation. And then AT&T can simply say: "Yes, we are aware of this problem. It's a technical problem in our system. We are working hard trying to solve it. Our customers can rest assured that this is not an intentional blocking, and that the problem soon will be solved". Hence, no lawsuit can be filed against AT&T in this case, because it's only a temporary technical problem they say. And if AT&T becomes a monopoly, then customers would not be able to choose another provider, and the net neutrality regulation would be essentially worthless.

Net neutrality isn't a legislation or concocted enaction of any kind, it is a natural occurring neutrality. The internet is just a neutral and free tool for the exchange of ideas, information, and products. That's it. The only way this natural neutrality would end is if it was owned. It's like walking into a natural Native American village where people barter and trade and exchange free ideas and then saying "we own you, everything must be taxed". Wait.... sounds pretty similar to what actually did happen, and what all corporations eventually do.

Just take radio for example. When radio first began anybody could own and operate a ham radio without a license, and effectively broadcast whatever they wanted to broadcast without a license. Just like we can do today on the internet. However, the FCC (Federal Communications Commission) came out and corporations bought the whole system, people were then required to get a license to operate even a ham radio. Then, people had to purchase licenses, pay taxes according to their radio use, and then rules were instated on the radio that you can't use certain words, give out certain information... etc. Then it became incredibly hard for anybody to even have an individual radio station.... now, no one really does.

That is exactly what will happen with the internet if this occurs. It will be destroying something that is already neutral... it's just naturally neutral. It's the free, and unpoliced international seas of the information age, and corporations and governments are pissed off that they can't control it, and that people have access to information they're not supposed to, and there is too much of it out there to monitor and keep people away from. So, they want to buy it, make it their own, and limit what you do and centralize it. Perhaps if the internet was put into a position like that, then in times of war with another country, you wouldn't be allowed to visit websites about that country and get information from bloggers blogging the real life things going on there (like "Hometown Baghdad" on YouTube) because you would be cut off, and restrained. If you found a way to do it, then..doh! You're trading with the enemy, you're a terrorist, you get locked up and your computer goes bye-bye.



-William



-William
www.William-Mac.com

[Anders Lindman]

Net neutrality isn't a legislation or concocted enaction of any kind, it is a natural occurring neutrality. The internet is just a neutral and free tool for the exchange of ideas, information, and products. That's it. The only way this natural neutrality would end is if it was owned.

Ah! There are several definitions of net neutrality, but as I understand it, by net neutrality you don't want regulations, just want to keep the Internet free and open. That's compatible with Ron Paul's view. :)