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deicide
21-05-2009, 07:34 AM
Do you think is it possible?
lhaull
21-05-2009, 03:29 PM
From the what?
Supermarket...
Garden...
Dreamworld...
Need a bit more info or perhaps a complete question, then I'll give you a better opinion.
deicide
21-05-2009, 06:35 PM
from an astral trip.
infin8_possibility
21-05-2009, 06:45 PM
Do you think is it possible?
The astral plane? I would think not as you are not of physical form on that plane - there is no "solid", Mountain is the one to ask about this.
hellosatellites
21-05-2009, 06:45 PM
If you have to ask i guess the answer for you is No :p
Literally bring back a physical object: No, not likely
Indirectly: Yes.
From the astral plane it could be possible to bring back the information (astral blueprint) for a physical object or situation, that you could then use to subsequently manifest that physical object/situation.
rhydra
21-05-2009, 06:51 PM
The astral plane is a real place, though not in the sense as this is so anything which exists on the plane is unable to exist here, much like you cannot grab a piece of a rainbow. Only the consciousness can exist as it is usually a transition place from one existence to another.
I have never meet anyone who did something like that. But Carlos Castaneda in his books was claiming that there was a guy who use to bring strange items from such places.
infin8_possibility
21-05-2009, 06:59 PM
I have never meet anyone who did something like that. But Carlos Castaneda in his books was claiming that there was a guy who use to bring strange items from such places.
Its called a supermarket. ;)
hellosatellites
21-05-2009, 07:00 PM
Its called a supermarket. ;)
That's right. Don Juan's Peyote Supermarket.
lhaull
22-05-2009, 06:24 AM
Ok, thanks for the added info.
There are reports, of things being taken by spirit from our realm and returned to this realm.
One of Britains foremost mediums, Dorris Stokes I believe it was.
Been a long time since I read the book, speaks about a locket or a stone being removed by Spirit and then later returned to her.
If this is an accurate account, then I see no problem with saying yes it is possible.
If we look at atoms and what makes them up, from what I can remember there are times when smallest part of the atom is not actually in this dimension, and then a moment later, it is, then a moment later it has moved again.
We know so little that if we are only basing possibilites on the laws of our physical universe, then perhaps we are limiting ourself greatly.
I understand that we need to have a bases to work from, but what seemed impossible 100 years ago, now is possible.
Its an interesting question, I was wondering if there is a specific reason you asked about it?
deicide
22-05-2009, 06:59 AM
Thanks for your answers.
Well.. Long time ago I woke up with some scars in my hands and legs. I don't knifes or something sharp in my room or even in my bed. I had some dreams that night, very weird dreams.
Then I read a story of a guy who lost a pendulum in the street. So he had a dream where he puts his pentaculum in his jacket. In the morning the pentaculum was there. I don't know if believe it or not.
And I was talking about this subject with a friend of mine about this subject.
hellosatellites
22-05-2009, 07:23 AM
Thanks for your answers.
Well.. Long time ago I woke up with some scars in my hands and legs. I don't knifes or something sharp in my room or even in my bed. I had some dreams that night, very weird dreams.
Then I read a story of a guy who lost a pendulum in the street. So he had a dream where he puts his pentaculum in his jacket. In the morning the pentaculum was there. I don't know if believe it or not.
And I was talking about this subject with a friend of mine about this subject.
Do you still have the scars in your hands and legs?
If not, how long did they stay?
toty1994
22-05-2009, 10:16 AM
Not sure this is the right thread but it seems appropriate...
A good friend of mine told me this. Some years ago one of her closest friends died unexpectedly. After returning home from the funeral she noticed a pencil lying in the middle of the living room carpet. She didn't think much about it at first, just thought it was odd as she'd tidied up before leaving the house a couple of days before. Eventually she picked the pencil up. Written along the side of it was the name of a holiday resort she'd visited with her deceased friend some time earlier. The thing is, she'd never owned this item, it had never been in the house - it was one of a number of these pencils that her friend had stolen as a silly bet from a tourist shop. The incident had since become a kind of running joke between them. She has shown me this 'ghostly' pencil, and I must admit it sent shivers up my spine to handle it!
Although I'm generally sceptical about such things I trust my friend and do not believe she just made this story up.
phildee3
22-05-2009, 12:41 PM
If you have to ask i guess the answer for you is No :p
Literally bring back a physical object: No, not likely
Indirectly: Yes.
From the astral plane it could be possible to bring back the information (astral blueprint) for a physical object or situation, that you could then use to subsequently manifest that physical object/situation.
Excellant answer!
You can't "bring back a physical object from the astral plane" because it is not a physical object there
but everything that exists on the physical plane exists there, a priori, as an idea/concept/archetype.
hellosatellites
22-05-2009, 01:10 PM
Excellant answer!
You can't "bring back a physical object from the astral plane" because it is not a physical object there
but everything that exists on the physical plane exists there, a priori, as an idea/concept/archetype.
yes, that's exactly what i was trying to say :) (i'm not english) thanks for crystalising :)
angelx777
22-05-2009, 10:41 PM
i normally bring back ideas from 'remote viewing trips', i did this few times, havent learned navigate yet, so ending up in all weird places
one time i woke up with the bruises all over my body , i think i was raped by gangbang of reptiles then
huh
lordzoma
23-05-2009, 05:34 PM
The answer is yes, absolutely. It's dimensional travel. However it cannot simply be done by willing it to be so.
You need technology.
deicide
23-05-2009, 07:27 PM
Do you still have the scars in your hands and legs?
If not, how long did they stay?
Just 2 weeks
merlincove
23-05-2009, 08:11 PM
My budhist teacher has returned from the astral with physical things, a shell, a flower, sitting with them in his hands after meditation. He says that i can do that to, although i have not, and i guess it is a matter of belief. He said to do so you have to have the item in your heart, and then all you do is bring it out in to the real. He is a very magical human being.
He can also create rainbows in the sky at will, i've seen him do this and it is magical. He says the same thing, just have love in your heart and send it into the sky and the rainbow will come.
Pure beauty pours out of this man, it is a true honour to spend time with him.
I've never returned from shamainc journey with anything physical;, though have heard again that this is possable - tho i have never seen it.
So yes you can. All you need to do is believe.
nimlyn
24-05-2009, 10:01 AM
I’ve been told in dreams how to acquire the Holy Grail. I’ve never attempted meditation before but reading this topic here I’m wondering if I should have a try and see what happens…If only I could just concentrate and learn how to shut out the outside world without falling asleep…Drats! :(
angelx777
24-05-2009, 02:24 PM
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deicide
31-05-2009, 03:19 AM
My budhist teacher has returned from the astral with physical things, a shell, a flower, sitting with them in his hands after meditation. He says that i can do that to, although i have not, and i guess it is a matter of belief. He said to do so you have to have the item in your heart, and then all you do is bring it out in to the real. He is a very magical human being.
He can also create rainbows in the sky at will, i've seen him do this and it is magical. He says the same thing, just have love in your heart and send it into the sky and the rainbow will come.
Pure beauty pours out of this man, it is a true honour to spend time with him.
I've never returned from shamainc journey with anything physical;, though have heard again that this is possable - tho i have never seen it.
So yes you can. All you need to do is believe.
Thanks, it's a great story
And what if someone ask for help in astral plane?
merlincove
31-05-2009, 06:04 PM
you'd need to acertain whether that 'person' was someone you could work with, that their intention was not to abuse you and whether your help would allow them to experience something they couldn't otherwise.
By that i mean, if someone asks you to put a plaster on a cut, so to help them you do. The next time you see them, they have another cut, and ask you to put a plaster on it, so you do. And everytime you see them they have a cut and they ask you to put a plaster on it. They are failing to understand that if they keep on playing with knives they are going to keep on getting cut, so eventually you might say, 'hey, lose the knofe dude....' The lesson they need to understand is either not to play with that knofe or to learn how to handle the knife properly, do you wanna pick the pieces up or do you wanna help them....
You can only help someone who is willing to accept that help and do what it takes to be well. T
kurupted_flesh
31-05-2009, 06:27 PM
What is not possible in this Holographic Universe of thought (?)
delamo1999
31-05-2009, 10:10 PM
The answer is yes, absolutely. It's dimensional travel. However it cannot simply be done by willing it to be so.
You need technology.
Yes it can be done without AI. In the book Autobiography of a Yogi, Paramahansa Yogananda talks about this. Also I have lost objects where I searched all over and could not find them. Then I move to another place and the "lost" object suddenly materializes by sitting in a place that I know it was not there before.
angelx777
31-05-2009, 11:04 PM
Yes it can be done without AI. In the book Autobiography of a Yogi, Paramahansa Yogananda talks about this. Also I have lost objects where I searched all over and could not find them. Then I move to another place and the "lost" object suddenly materializes by sitting in a place that I know it was not there before.
this happened to me too, i lost object (ring) for three days, then found in a place where it wasnt before (100% sure)(his usual place), what do you think happened ?? i do those 'astral trips' too
delamo1999
31-05-2009, 11:39 PM
this happened to me too, i lost object (ring) for three days, then found in a place where it wasnt before (100% sure)(his usual place), what do you think happened ?? i do those 'astral trips' too
Somehow both of us were able to tap into the 4th dimension to bring it back. I know that it is possible to do this on the conscious level as well.
What type of techniques do you use when you go on your astral trips? I have tried to do these, but have not had any success on the conscious level.