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carlg1212
22-07-2007, 04:18 AM
This movie came out in 2001, before I was tuned in to Icke. It re-played on the tele a few nights ago. I was able to view it with a new perspective since reading Icke's and others' books. The movie's a must-see...Stanley Kubrick worked on it but died before filming began. Spielberg dedicated the movie to him.

A few points, and they all relate to what a lot of children grow up with:

1.) The AI was taught to love so that its parents could control it.
2.) The parents expected the AI to react in pre-determined ways, much how children are programmed to react through school and the demands of irrational parents.
3.) Many of the AI's 'feelings' were nothing more than programmed responses. Some human emotion is similar.

There's a lot more but figured I'd see if anyone was interested in discussing lol!

cleft_asunder
22-07-2007, 05:24 AM
This movie came out in 2001, before I was tuned in to Icke. It re-played on the tele a few nights ago. I was able to view it with a new perspective since reading Icke's and others' books. The movie's a must-see...Stanley Kubrick worked on it but died before filming began. Spielberg dedicated the movie to him.

A few points, and they all relate to what a lot of children grow up with:

1.) The AI was taught to love so that its parents could control it.
2.) The parents expected the AI to react in pre-determined ways, much how children are programmed to react through school and the demands of irrational parents.
3.) Many of the AI's 'feelings' were nothing more than programmed responses. Some human emotion is similar.

There's a lot more but figured I'd see if anyone was interested in discussing lol!

Yes but humans are totally biological computers. Your likes and dislikes are nothing but false preferences which you are a slave to. For example, "you" might dislike blonde women, but why? Well it's not you that dislikes it, it's the bio computer with it's artificial manufactured identity. The only thing differentiating humans from the AI in the film is that we have the potential to break away from the programming. I say potential because over 99% of us will never reach a state where we have true free will.The bio computer is a false you, and only through the discovery of who you truly are can you experience true free-will. Decisions made through the bio computer AI are false-freewill choices, as in illusionary freewill.

In other words, everyone is an AI, even those with conciousness behind them, because the conciousness is supressed and they are acting through the AI which has usurped free-will.

heretic
22-07-2007, 08:29 AM
A.I. is a HORROR movie. Seriously.

carlg1212
22-07-2007, 09:56 PM
Yes but humans are totally biological computers. Your likes and dislikes are nothing but false preferences which you are a slave to. For example, "you" might dislike blonde women, but why? Well it's not you that dislikes it, it's the bio computer with it's artificial manufactured identity. The only thing differentiating humans from the AI in the film is that we have the potential to break away from the programming. I say potential because over 99% of us will never reach a state where we have true free will.The bio computer is a false you, and only through the discovery of who you truly are can you experience true free-will. Decisions made through the bio computer AI are false-freewill choices, as in illusionary freewill.

In other words, everyone is an AI, even those with conciousness behind them, because the conciousness is supressed and they are acting through the AI which has usurped free-will.

That's a good summary.

infinitetruth
22-07-2007, 10:08 PM
Yes but humans are totally biological computers. Your likes and dislikes are nothing but false preferences which you are a slave to. For example, "you" might dislike blonde women, but why? Well it's not you that dislikes it, it's the bio computer with it's artificial manufactured identity. The only thing differentiating humans from the AI in the film is that we have the potential to break away from the programming. I say potential because over 99% of us will never reach a state where we have true free will.The bio computer is a false you, and only through the discovery of who you truly are can you experience true free-will. Decisions made through the bio computer AI are false-freewill choices, as in illusionary freewill.

In other words, everyone is an AI, even those with conciousness behind them, because the conciousness is supressed and they are acting through the AI which has usurped free-will.

Are they really false preferences? What if you dislike something because you have been overprogrammed to like it? For instance using your analogy what if you dislike blonde women because you have been programmed to like them? Is that false preferences? I spose it is because it is still a reaction to programming and not a geniune preference.