utlimate proof Aliens Exist

[takhisis]

For everyone that believes UFO's dont exist , the ultimate proof is right in front of you , look up Federal Law, Title 14 Section 1211 Code of Regulations made in 1969, by the United States Goverment , making it illegal for a US citizen to have any contact with ET's or ET's vehicles , that right there is the ultimate proof , they dont make laws up for nothing, if they did not exist there would be no law against it

[da1reppinqnz]

wow thx for the thread i never knew this

1211.100 Title 14 - Aeronautics and Space

Part 1211 - Extra-terrestrial Exposure

1211.100 - Scope

This part establishes: (a) NASA policy, responsibility and authority to guard the Earth against any harmful contamination or adverse changes in its environment resulting from personnel, spacecraft and other property returning to the Earth after landing on or coming within the atmospheric envelope of a celestial body; and (b) security requirements, restrictions and safeguards that are necessary in the interest of national security.

1211.101 - Applicability

The provisions of this part to all NASA manned and unmanned space missions which land or come within the atmospheric envelope of a celestial body and return to the Earth.

1211.102 - Definitions

(a) "NASA" and the "Administrator" mean, respectively the National Aeronautics and Space Administration and the administrator of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration or his authorized representative.

(b) "Extra-terrestrially exposed" means the state of condition of any person, property, animal or other form of life or matter whatever, who or which has:

(1) Touched directly or come within the atmospheric envelope or any other celestial body; or

(2) Touched directly or been in close proximity to (or been exposed indirectly to) any person, property, animal or other form of life or matter who or which has been extra-terrestrially exposed by virtue of paragraph (b)(1) of this section.

For example, if person or thing "A" touches the surface of the Moon, and on "A's" return to Earth, "B" touches "A" and, subsequently, "C" touches "B", all of these - "A" through "C" inclusive - would be extra-terrestrially exposed ("A" and "B" directly; "C" indirectly).

(c) "Quarantine" means the detention, examination and decontamination of any persons, property, animal or other form of life or matter whatever that is extra-terrestrially exposed, and includes the apprehension or seizure of such person, property, animal or other form of life or matter whatever.

(d) "Quarantine period" means a period of consecutive calendar days as may be established in accordance with 1211.104 (a).

(a) Administrative actions. The Administrator or his designee shall in his discretion:

(1) Determine the beginning and duration of a quarantine period with respect to any space mission; the quarantine period as it applies to various life forms will be announced.

(2) Designate in writing quarantine officers to exercise quarantine authority.

(3) Determine that a particular person, property, animal, or other form of life or matter whatever is extra- terrestrially exposed and quarantine such person, property, animal, or other form of life or matter whatever. The quarantine may be based only on a determination, with or without the benefit of a hearing, that there is probable cause to believe that such person, property, animal or other form of life or matter whatever is extra-terrestrially exposed.

(4) Determine within the United States or within vessels or vehicles of the United States the place, boundaries, and rules of operation of necessary quarantine stations.

(5) Provide for guard services by contract or otherwise, as many be necessary, to maintain security and inviolability of quarantine stations and quarantined persons, property, animals or other form of life or matter whatever.

(6) Provide for the subsistence, health and welfare of persons quarantined under the provisions of this part.

(7) Hold such hearings at such times, in such manner and for such purposes as may be desirable or necessary under this part, including hearings for the purpose of creating a record for use in making any determination under this part for the purpose of reviewing any such determination.

(b) (3) During any period of announced quarantine, no person shall enter or depart from the limits of the quarantine station without permission of the cognizant NASA officer. During such period, the posted perimeter of a quarantine station shall be secured by armed guard.

(b) (4) Any person who enters the limits of any quarantine station during the quarantine period shall be deemed to have consented to the quarantine of his person if it is determined that he is or has become extra-terrestrially exposed.

(b) (5) At the earliest practicable time, each person who is quarantined by NASA shall be given a reasonable opportunity to communicate by telephone with legal counsel or other persons of his choice.

1211.107 Court or other process

(a) NASA officers and employees are prohibited from discharging from the limits of a quarantine station any quarantined person, property, animal or other form of life or matter whatever during order or other request, order or demand an announced quarantine period in compliance with a subpoena, show cause or any court or other authority without the prior approval of the General Counsel and the Administrator.

(b) Where approval to discharge a quarantined person, property, animal or other form of life or matter whatever in compliance with such a request, order or demand of any court or other authority is not given, the person to whom it is directed shall, if possible, appear in court or before the other authority and respectfully state his inability to comply, relying for his action on this 1211.107.

1211.108 Violations

Whoever willfully violates, attempts to violate, or conspires to violate any provision of this part or any regulation or order issued under this part or who enters or departs from the limits of a quarantine station in disregard of the quarantine rules or regulations or without permission of the NASA quarantine officer shall be fined not more that $5,000 or imprisoned not more than 1 year, or both.

[cobra]

dose that means that u are not aloved to be in contacr whit extraterestrils whit out knowing the NASA abouth it? :) if you told them like they would bolive....

[takhisis]

dose that means that u are not aloved to be in contacr whit extraterestrils whit out knowing the NASA abouth it? :) if you told them like they would bolive....

Yes its illegal in the USA to be in contact or have contact with a alien craft, look up title 14 section 1211 US Code of Regulations - basically a federal law made in 1969

[777equals666]

You know Takhisis, I usually show people images and video of UFOs to make a point of their existence but what you have shared only corroborates it all. Why would NASA create laws to protect their interest in the case of being exposed by E.T.s and UFOs if they truly didn't exist or if NASA thought in the possibility in them? It's a rare find, thank you!

[diky]

For everyone that believes UFO's dont exist , the ultimate proof is right in front of you , look up Federal Law, Title 14 Section 1211 Code of Regulations made in 1969, by the United States Goverment , making it illegal for a US citizen to have any contact with ET's or ET's vehicles , that right there is the ultimate proof , they dont make laws up for nothing, if they did not exist there would be no law against it

and what are you suggesting they created this for?

so that they can enforce a law about ETs whilst simultaneously denying their existence

brilliant!

presumably you have read the reason behind this law and chosen to dismiss it?

[ronisron]

Actually, extra terrestrial in this case seems to apply apply to astronauts, plants and animals sent into space, and any craft returning from space or satellites that have fallen from the sky. It just means that you can't touch something that has come from outside of our atmosphere, in case you steal it, see something you shouldn't, or for fear of contamination. Read da1reppinqnz's post carefully.... for example

1211.100 - Scope

This part establishes: (a) NASA policy, responsibility and authority to guard the Earth against any harmful contamination or adverse changes in its environment resulting from personnel, spacecraft and other property returning to the Earth after landing on or coming within the atmospheric envelope of a celestial body; and (b) security requirements, restrictions and safeguards that are necessary in the interest of national security.

and

1211.101 - Applicability

The provisions of this part to all NASA manned and unmanned space missions which land or come within the atmospheric envelope of a celestial body and return to the Earth.

also

(b) "Extra-terrestrially exposed" means the state of condition of any person, property, animal or other form of life or matter whatever, who or which has:

(1) Touched directly or come within the atmospheric envelope or any other celestial body; or

(2) Touched directly or been in close proximity to (or been exposed indirectly to) any person, property, animal or other form of life or matter who or which has been extra-terrestrially exposed by virtue of paragraph (b)(1) of this section.

For example, if person or thing "A" touches the surface of the Moon, and on "A's" return to Earth, "B" touches "A" and, subsequently, "C" touches "B", all of these - "A" through "C" inclusive - would be extra-terrestrially exposed ("A" and "B" directly; "C" indirectly).

Not to rain on the parade, but this all concerns things that went into space and returned.

[takhisis]

Your missing the point NASA does NOT create laws! Congress does and the USA goverment ! these are actually laws about ET's and ET crafts , this is undenyable proof that they do exist and the goverment lies to everyone

[diky]

Your missing the point NASA does NOT create laws! Congress does and the USA goverment ! these are actually laws about ET's and ET crafts , this is undenyable proof that they do exist and the goverment lies to everyone

If the government is corrupt and lies to everyone then they do not need to make a law about aliens that any idiot can see, do they.

this is a silly myth which you seem to be taking as a fact.

http://www.snopes.com/legal/et.asp

[ronisron]

Your missing the point NASA does NOT create laws! Congress does and the USA goverment ! these are actually laws about ET's and ET crafts , this is undenyable proof that they do exist and the goverment lies to everyone

Sorry, but if you would have actually read the description of what you were posting, it is very clearly referring to things that were sent from earth and returning. They're extra terrestrial because they left the earth's atmosphere, then re-entered.

You jumped the "smoking gun", is all. We all make mistakes. I'm not debating pro or con, just that this thread doesnot offer undeniable proof in any way -- unless you want it to.

[777equals666]

and what are you suggesting they created this for?

so that they can enforce a law about ETs whilst simultaneously denying their existence

brilliant!

presumably you have read the reason behind this law and chosen to dismiss it?

This reminds me of another law in CA that states you can have 3 marijuana plants in your home as long as they aren't over 3 feet, yet if you get caught with a gram in your pocket outside your home you can go to jail...

In regards to UFOs and E.T.'s don't forget about the brookings institute report and executive order 10501, which gives the US Government legal justification to deny the existence of UFOs for national security purposes...

NASA can flip flop their legal position using the law takhisis has shared...

[takhisis]

If the government is corrupt and lies to everyone then they do not need to make a law about aliens that any idiot can see, do they.

this is a silly myth which you seem to be taking as a fact.

http://www.snopes.com/legal/et.asp

i didnt say IF THIS IS A ACTUAL LAW ALREADY MADE IN 1969 LOOK IT UP!

On 16 July 1969, a United States law was passed called the "Extra-Terrestrial Exposure Law" that made it illegal for the public to come in contact with extra-terrestrials or their vehicles. (Title 14, Section 1211 of the Code of Federal Regulations). Anyone found guilty of such contact could face up to one year imprisonment as well as a fine of $5000. Also, any individual who had been "exposed" could be quarantined under armed guard by the NASA administrator without a hearing.

ET- INCUDES WHAT YOU STATED BUT ALSO INCLUDES ALIENS AND ALIEN CRAFTS

[kidsarocker]

UFOs are man made by nazi rocket scientists who were taken to the USA (instead of being tried) in a project called paperclip, this project was passed on the basis that Congress were told if they didn't pass the legislation then these scientists would fall into their enemies hands ie USSR

[merlincove]

This also makes the collecting of meteorites an infringement of policy!

And if you argue that all water on this planet is off world in origin, as is being openly discussed in many scientific communities, then by definition when you are rained on you are coming into direct contact with something that has 'Touched directly or come within the atmospheric envelope of any other celestial body' - so they have made being rained on illegal!

Sorry, to digress, but that is a very valid point. :rolleyes:

And by definition the gvt agencies who deal with ET's are in direct contravention of their own doctrines.

Could this apply to technology, ie back engineering also?

Great finb btw OP

[777equals666]

This also makes the collecting of meteorites an infringement of policy!

And if you argue that all water on this planet is off world in origin, as is being openly discussed in many scientific communities, then by definition when you are rained on you are coming into direct contact with something that has 'Touched directly or come within the atmospheric envelope of any other celestial body' - so they have made being rained on illegal!

Sorry, to digress, but that is a very valid point. :rolleyes:

And by definition the gvt agencies who deal with ET's are in direct contravention of their own doctrines.

Could this apply to technology, ie back engineering also?

Great finb btw OP

Reminds me of the film Bowfinger with Eddie Murphy and Steve Martin - Chubby Rain!

[elton]

Sorry, but if you would have actually read the description of what you were posting, it is very clearly referring to things that were sent from earth and returning. They're extra terrestrial because they left the earth's atmosphere, then re-entered.

You jumped the "smoking gun", is all. We all make mistakes. I'm not debating pro or con, just that this thread doesnot offer undeniable proof in any way -- unless you want it to.

Thats the point. The OP chooses to believe this only because he wants to and he is not interested in the obvious explanation.

[diky]

Thats the point. The OP chooses to believe this only because he wants to and he is not interested in the obvious explanation.

quite

[takhisis]

quite

I beleve it cause its true , laws have many meaning not excluding one thing and including other things there are often hidden meanings to most laws, even if its not intentionally told to the public , which they dont want us to know anyways m they just tell you sheeple what to beleve and you buy it hook line and sinker

[elton]

I beleve it cause its true , laws have many meaning not excluding one thing and including other things there are often hidden meanings to most laws, even if its not intentionally told to the public , which they dont want us to know anyways m they just tell you sheeple what to beleve and you buy it hook line and sinker

It didn't take you long to use the "sheeple" insult! Read the law yourself. Its quite clear, and in any case its not "proof". Come back when you have real proof. Good luck.

[diky]

I beleve it cause its true , laws have many meaning not excluding one thing and including other things there are often hidden meanings to most laws, even if its not intentionally told to the public , which they dont want us to know anyways m they just tell you sheeple what to beleve and you buy it hook line and sinker

funny how you throw the sheeple thing around when you are just regurgitating some bullshit someone told you on the internet :)

[bealert]

For everyone that believes UFO's dont exist , the ultimate proof is right in front of you , look up Federal Law, Title 14 Section 1211 Code of Regulations made in 1969, by the United States Goverment , making it illegal for a US citizen to have any contact with ET's or ET's vehicles , that right there is the ultimate proof , they dont make laws up for nothing, if they did not exist there would be no law against it
sightings of UFOs have changed over the last 50 years as our own technology as improved.
in the 1960s UFO most sightings were mostly very basic spacecraft's however nowadays with the wide spread audiences that watch them on TV films etc... most sightings seem to be a lot more sophisticated. However in saying that i believe they probably do exist just that most sightings are fake.

[siriusc]

Does this mean it's legal to have contact with pedestrian ETs?

[777equals666]

It didn't take you long to use the "sheeple" insult! Read the law yourself. Its quite clear, and in any case its not "proof". Come back when you have real proof. Good luck.

The question you need to ask yourself is, are you willing to accept the reality of UFOs and E.T.s regardless of the evidence being provided? If you have already made up your mind on the subject, you put yourself farther from the Truth and you close yourself off from what could be the answer to your true significance here on earth?

If you are looking for photographic proof provided by the U.S. Government, DOD, NASA and JPL, look up the massively and purposely smudged vehicles and towers on the Moon that can be seen on the Clementine Lunar Image Browser 1.5, then come back here and complain about not having proof and being angry about being demi-classified as "sheep": http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2004/068/moon-objects.htm

If you people expect others to do the homework for you on this subject, you are certainly wasting my time and you are not making a logical point for yourself. You are making it easier for people like Takhisis to call you SHEEP! :D

[takhisis]

Reguardless , why the law was made if you read between the lines ET - is a wide variety of objects , so with that said if a aliens ship visits your home , you can and could be convicted within this law . as stated by the law itself, at any time if you have a ufo encounter you can and will mostly likely could be convicted of this law! thats the point! you know what beleve what you will i dont give a damn i am just showing you the truth , if you dont want to beleve the proof in front of your eyes then thats not my problem

[takhisis]

funny how you throw the sheeple thing around when you are just regurgitating some bullshit someone told you on the internet :)

Nothing wrong with saying sheeple cause thats what most people are following the blind word of the goverment , gtaking there word for it all the time , that is why the world is the way it is, with the goverment taking away your basic rights as a human being.

By the way i am not the only one to say sheeple , a ton of people use that term its not my fault you cannot accept the truth i am showing you. The goverment flaunts it right in front of your face and you cant even see it

[thefreedomagenda]

Was this law made after the moon landings, if it was it kind of backs up the aliens on the moon theory.

[sexi_co]

Actually, extra terrestrial in this case seems to apply apply to astronauts, plants and animals sent into space, and any craft returning from space or satellites that have fallen from the sky. It just means that you can't touch something that has come from outside of our atmosphere, in case you steal it, see something you shouldn't, or for fear of contamination. Read da1reppinqnz's post carefully.... for example

(b) "Extra-terrestrially exposed" means the state of condition of any person, property, animal or other form of life or matter whatever, who or which has:

(1) Touched directly or come within the atmospheric envelope or any other celestial body; or

(2) Touched directly or been in close proximity to (or been exposed indirectly to) any person, property, animal or other form of life or matter who or which has been extra-terrestrially exposed by virtue of paragraph (b)(1) of this section.

For example, if person or thing "A" touches the surface of the Moon, and on "A's" return to Earth, "B" touches "A" and, subsequently, "C" touches "B", all of these - "A" through "C" inclusive - would be extra-terrestrially exposed ("A" and "B" directly; "C" indirectly).

Not to rain on the parade, but this all concerns things that went into space and returned.

So anyone that has spoke to Buzz or Neil is a criminal!!
:eek::D

[sexi_co]

Was this law made after the moon landings, if it was it kind of backs up the aliens on the moon theory.

It was made before the moon landings and was withdrawn in 1991.

the Extraterrestrial Exposure regulation that was adopted in 1969 and removed in 1991, I will give the long winded details.
Code of Federal Regulations, edition of Jan. 1, 1997, Volume 14, Part 1200 to end, (Cat#AE2.106/3:14/P. 1200-end/997) Part 1211 on page 75 says: "Reserved". Turn to back of Volume, and from page 481 is a section titled, "List of CFR Sections affected" which lists by year, all changes to theCFR made since 1986.
On page 484, under 1991, Part 1211 is listed as "Removed", referencing CFR56 P 19259 as the change announcement. On the reference page it states: "NASA is removing 14 CFR Part 1211 since it has served its purpose and is no longer in keeping with current policy."


Source :- http://www.qtm.net/~geibdan/et-law.html

[tjohn]

So anyone that has spoke to Buzz or Neil is a criminal!!
:eek::Dlol Good point! :D

[777equals666]

So anyone that has spoke to Buzz or Neil is a criminal!!
:eek::D

Not exactly. It is Public Record that neither Buzz, nor Neil ever came into contact with anything E.T. on the Moon other than the rock samples that were brought back to Earth. From a Public Record stand point neither Neil or Buzz ever broke this Law so if you meet these individuals in person you would not be lawfully penalized for it...:D

BIG Thanks for the updated info that you shared sexi-co! With this Law no longer in legal effect, I can only wonder what new Law or Provision they replaced it with?