Pentagon Preps Soldier Telepathy Push

[deca]

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/05/pentagon-preps-soldier-telepathy-push/
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Danger Room What’s Next in National Security
Pentagon Preps Soldier Telepathy Push

* By Katie Drummond Email Author
* May 14, 2009 |
* 10:46 am |
* Categories: Army and Marines, DarpaWatch, Science!

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Forget the battlefield radios, the combat PDAs or even infantry hand signals. When the soldiers of the future want to communicate, they’ll read each other’s minds.

At least, that’s the hope of researchers at the Pentagon’s mad-science division Darpa. The agency’s budget for the next fiscal year includes $4 million to start up a program called Silent Talk. The goal is to “allow user-to-user communication on the battlefield without the use of vocalized speech through analysis of neural signals.” That’s on top of the $4 million the Army handed out last year to the University of California to investigate the potential for computer-mediated telepathy.

Before being vocalized, speech exists as word-specific neural signals in the mind. Darpa wants to develop technology that would detect these signals of “pre-speech,” analyze them, and then transmit the statement to an intended interlocutor. Darpa plans to use EEG to read the brain waves. It’s a technique they’re also testing in a project to devise mind-reading binoculars that alert soldiers to threats faster the conscious mind can process them.

The project has three major goals, according to Darpa. First, try to map a person’s EEG patterns to his or her individual words. Then, see if those patterns are generalizable — if everyone has similar patterns. Last, “construct a fieldable pre-prototype that would decode the signal and transmit over a limited range.”

The military has been funding a handful of mind-tapping technology recently, and already have monkeys capable of telepathic limb control. Telepathy may also have advantages beyond covert battlefield chatter. Last year, the National Research Council and the Defense Intelligence Agency released a report suggesting that neuroscience might also be useful to “make the enemy obey our commands.” The first step, though, may be getting a grunt to obey his officer’s remotely-transmitted thoughts.

– Katie Drummond and Noah Shachtman

[Photo: ONR]

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[darketernal]

They already have this. They've had telepathic psyops teams for many many years already. Still it is interesting none-the-less.

[whitenight639]

They already have this. They've had telepathic psyops teams for many many years already. Still it is interesting none-the-less.

have u got a link to more info on this please?

[kblood]

They already have this. They've had telepathic psyops teams for many many years already. Still it is interesting none-the-less.

This is different, it seems now they want to use the new mind reading technology instead of the usual radios. A bit different from having a psy ops I think.

Anything about the psy ops surfaced after they "officially closed" that department? I think they closed it before the year 2000, but it seems unlikely that it was really closed since they had so much proof that it was usefull. Remote viewing actually challenged their satelites in seeing remote planets.

[zero1]

They already have this. They've had telepathic psyops teams for many many years already. Still it is interesting none-the-less.

Indeed, yes.

I remember in 1999 being watched in a bookstore by two female telepathic agents who were "talking" via psi-link behind my back to each other. They didn't know I was alert to them, but the thing about the simulated version of telepathy (using technology/computers) is that you can't listen in unless you have similar tech and know the frequency waves being used, just like in any other electronics.

"Radio-telepathy" or RT they call it on the inside in the Intelligence services.

What further confuses the issue is that certain elite brances of the IA's have real telepaths, that is psionic telepaths, who are psychic sensitives who have had their rudimentary abilities honed to perfection and can do it (telepathy) without need of too traceable electronics in the field. Utilising both can confuse and decieve enemies, since false information can be relayed via psionic waves to machines to make the enemy think they've hacked a Radio-Telepathy bandwave with their com-tech, and so forth.

And now here, in the OP, RT it is only being "revealed" some 45 odd years after the fact of all this stuff was established.

Honestly, the shit that goes down in this world, ppl really have no idea...

[gripit]

I watched something like this a couple years ago. They already had it working with mice. The plan was to inject the person with loads of nano wires. One of the wires would eventually find it's way and attach itself to the pineal gland (I think). It would be crazy...you wouldn't need internet, phones or anything because you could just 'think' of what you need to research or 'think' of the person you want to call and it would be done. Speaking could become obsolete! (There's certainly some people I would love to shut up :)) But seriously, imagine the terror of a whole army 'wired up'. Imagine putting nano wires in vaccinations? They could literally control the thought process and health of everyone on the planet. Scary technology!

[kblood]

Indeed, yes.

I remember in 1999 being watched in a bookstore by two female telepathic agents who were "talking" via psi-link behind my back to each other. They didn't know I was alert to them, but the thing about the simulated version of telepathy (using technology/computers) is that you can't listen in unless you have similar tech and know the frequency waves being used, just like in any other electronics.

"Radio-telepathy" or RT they call it on the inside in the Intelligence services.

What further confuses the issue is that certain elite brances of the IA's have real telepaths, that is psionic telepaths, who are psychic sensitives who have had their rudimentary abilities honed to perfection and can do it (telepathy) without need of too traceable electronics in the field. Utilising both can confuse and decieve enemies, since false information can be relayed via psionic waves to machines to make the enemy think they've hacked a Radio-Telepathy bandwave with their com-tech, and so forth.

And now here, in the OP, RT it is only being "revealed" some 45 odd years after the fact of all this stuff was established.

Honestly, the shit that goes down in this world, ppl really have no idea...

I wonder if they can encrypt their radio telepathy? If they dont I doubt they can hide it from an actuall telepath.

[darketernal]

have u got a link to more info on this please?

My own memory. Sorry this is not something I have reasearched online.

[deca]

synthetic telepathy is basically "microwave hearing effect" and remote reading your thoughts, a computer interpret the thoughts.

There are a lot of TI`s that get microwave hearing and there thoughts read/predicted back to them

I have a synthetic telepathy unfortunately this is with out my consent and I have no control over witch thoughts are for "communication " as majority of my thoughts are decoded which is a big problem the mind has no firewall.

[darketernal]

Fair enough guys. I did not consider that we are talking about synthetic telepathy rather than innate. All my experiences working with this involved people with a genetic predisposition for it, who are already naturally telepathic being trained work as a team.

[deca]

Fair enough guys. I did not consider that we are talking about synthetic telepathy rather than innate. All my experiences working with this involved people with a genetic predisposition for it, who are already naturally telepathic being trained work as a team.


trust the military to research the paranormal find whats causing it(keep it quite cover it up) , spend millions on it and turn it into a weapon

[brandville]

Indeed, yes.

I remember in 1999 being watched in a bookstore by two female telepathic agents who were "talking" via psi-link behind my back to each other. They didn't know I was alert to them...

and why were these telepathic agents watchin you?? :rolleyes:

[zero1]

and why were these telepathic agents watchin you?? :rolleyes:

The same reason I've been watched all my life.

[zero1]

I wonder if they can encrypt their radio telepathy? If they dont I doubt they can hide it from an actuall telepath.

A psionicist (natural psychic telepath) can sense the radio-frequencies used in RT, but can only pick up the frequency by an effort of concentration and re-modulation that takes time, time which one does not generally have in the field. @ the very least, a telepath will know of the use of RT in their vacinity and be on guard, it works like a "danger sense" if you will.

[brandville]

Indeed, yes.

I remember in 1999 being watched in a bookstore by two female telepathic agents who were "talking" via psi-link behind my back to each other. They didn't know I was alert to them, but the thing about the simulated version of telepathy (using technology/computers) is that you can't listen in unless you have similar tech and know the frequency waves being used, just like in any other electronics.

"Radio-telepathy" or RT they call it on the inside in the Intelligence services.

What further confuses the issue is that certain elite brances of the IA's have real telepaths, that is psionic telepaths, who are psychic sensitives who have had their rudimentary abilities honed to perfection and can do it (telepathy) without need of too traceable electronics in the field. Utilising both can confuse and decieve enemies, since false information can be relayed via psionic waves to machines to make the enemy think they've hacked a Radio-Telepathy bandwave with their com-tech, and so forth.

And now here, in the OP, RT it is only being "revealed" some 45 odd years after the fact of all this stuff was established.

Honestly, the shit that goes down in this world, ppl really have no idea...

The same reason I've been watched all my life.

and that is?

[zero1]

Fair enough guys. I did not consider that we are talking about synthetic telepathy rather than innate. All my experiences working with this involved people with a genetic predisposition for it, who are already naturally telepathic being trained work as a team.

Thing is, the military use both; non psychic-sensitives ("con-sapients") have to use Radio-Telepathy (RT) because they have no innate psychic ability @ the genetic level, these are generally Special Forces & Intelligence Support services (like the Activity in America) but the natural psionicists are simply elite shadow-ops agents who operate in tight-nit units scattered throughout the world and have a high degree of autonomy.

[zero1]

and that is?

I'm special. ;)

[deca]

hmmm wounder why they are spending millions on "synthetic telepathy" if they have all these natural "telepathic" agents commando`s????:rolleyes:

[zero1]

hmmm wounder why they are spending millions on "synthetic telepathy" if they have all these natural "telepathic" agents commando`s????:rolleyes:

I explained that in post #16, you'll find.

(This was bound to be a thread with lots of rolleyes...:rolleyes:). >sigh<

OK, once again; the soldiers/agents who have no genetic predisposition to psychic ability (ie. they are ordinary consapients like the vast majority of humans on Earth) use Radio-Telepathy because they have to (not being able to do the real thing naturally). A very small elite minority of humans have are genetically psychic-sensitives who can be trained and moulded into psionicists (with telepathic powers, and sometimes telekinesis too) by a secret scientific process known to the IA's (Intelligence Agencies). The military of the U.S. Russia & Britain (mainly those three) utilize both kinds of agents as both field operatives and soldiers.

[darketernal]

Thing is, the military use both; non psychic-sensitives ("con-sapients") have to use Radio-Telepathy (RT) because they have no innate psychic ability @ the genetic level, these are generally Special Forces & Intelligence Support services (like the Activity in America) but the natural psionicists are simply elite shadow-ops agents who operate in tight-nit units scattered throughout the world and have a high degree of autonomy.


I know. I was one for 8 years. I prefer "psyops" for short. Unfortunately my handler shot herself 10 years ago.

[zero1]

I know. I was one for 8 years. I prefer "psyops" for short. Unfortunately my handler shot herself 10 years ago.

Doesn't surprise me that you were. As for your handler...it's a stressful job, I understand..

[hawk]

So a person is considered naturally talented in this field if they can pick up the thoughts of another? Is it kinda like being on the receiving end of a radio. It happens to me all the time. I know what alot of people around say to each other word for word alot of times. I don't have to even be in the room.
Hell, I don't have to be in the same county to tell you what the other people were saying to each other.
Ex: My sister wanted me to babysit her grandson, but his mom asked her, and not me if she thought that I would be okay with handling him. My sister told her yes, and that I'd better not hurt him or else she'd kill me. When I told My sister this: she just looked at me and asked,"How did you know what I said?" I just told her, "It's a gift."
Guess who's babysitting? You got it, me. And for the record, I would never hurt a baby. I don't know where she gets her paranoia from.

[kblood]

A psionicist (natural psychic telepath) can sense the radio-frequencies used in RT, but can only pick up the frequency by an effort of concentration and re-modulation that takes time, time which one does not generally have in the field. @ the very least, a telepath will know of the use of RT in their vacinity and be on guard, it works like a "danger sense" if you will.

The thing is, if you catch up on an agent using both the radio method the the psychic method, then if you could lock on to the psychic "transmission" if you will, you could get all the info. At least that is my theory.

I have run into people who are surprisingly gifted with telepathy. Usually it takes great effort, or strong emotions to make it happen. Especially telepathy, but some seem to have mastered that form. Seemingly effortlessly doing it very clearly.

Of course they also have devices for that. Capable of putting thoughts in peoples head. Sometimes people pick up on it though, and realise its not their own thoughts and respond to them. Can catch them quite off guard :)

In my experience, an empathic kind of telepathy link is easier to make. If you have a strong emotional bond with someone or maybe just some strong emotions or some strong energy in your body, it makes it easier to make such a link. The empathic link is just on an emotional level though. Knowing how another person is feeling and can help anticipate what that other person might want to say or do, since emotions are the catalyst of some of our actions.

[deca]

synthetic telepathy is more accurate realize on technology not on ability
more of a Brain computer interface but the computer will filter out "communication" information that would be useful for others to know then relay that to them via there BCI to them straight to there brain

hmm if you had important things to say to someone would you rely on telepathy or use the phone?

instead of verbalizing your words through your mouth and then a mic picking it up then getting digitized then transmitted then converted by a speaker so some can hear it again They are "detecting it as you think" then transmitting it to the other persons mind/inner ear.




http://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/news/releases/2004/subvocal/subvocal.html
NASA scientists have begun to computerize human, silent reading using nerve signals in the throat that control speech. In preliminary experiments, NASA scientists found that small, button-sized sensors, stuck under the chin and on either side of the ‘Adam’s apple,’ could gather nerve signals, send them to a processor and then to a computer program that translates them into words.

"What is analyzed is silent, or sub-auditory, speech, such as when a person silently reads or talks to himself," said Chuck Jorgensen (pictured), a scientist whose team is developing silent, subvocal speech recognition at NASA Ames Research Center in California’s Silicon Valley.

also they have the ability to push thoughts onto people that's not on the same system, These people might not even be conscious of the direct mind control over them
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2008/08/the-dia-looks-i/


Danger Room What’s Next in National Security
Defense Spooks: Let’s Control Enemy Minds

* By Nick Thompson Email Author
* August 16, 2008 |
* 7:03 am |
* Categories: Uncategorized

Mind_control_4
Forget performance-enhancing drugs for soldiers, the next frontier is performance-degrading drugs for our enemies. Rick Weiss at the Science Progress blog has just written a nice post about a just-released 150-page report from the National Research Council and the Defense Intelligence Agency that argues that the military needs to do a better job keeping up with neuroscience: in part so it can learn how to make our enemies stupider.

“Although conflict has many aspects, one that warfighters and policy makers often talk about is the motivation to fight, which undoubtedly has its origins in the brain and is reflected in peripheral neurophysiological processes," quotes Weiss from the report. “So one question would be, ‘How can we disrupt the enemy’s motivation to fight?’ Other questions raised by controlling the mind: ‘How can we make people trust us more?’ ‘What if we could help the brain to remove fear or pain?’ ‘Is there a way to make the enemy obey our commands?’… As cognitive neuroscience and related technologies become more pervasive, using technology for nefarious purposes becomes easier.”

[whitenight639]

I know. I was one for 8 years. I prefer "psyops" for short. Unfortunately my handler shot herself 10 years ago.

can u tell us anymore without getting urself bumped off? sounds v interesting