Why I'm Voting UKIP As My MEP.

[elysiumfire]

It's been a long time since I took part in our country's political process, for like many others I could not see the impact of my vote, so I thought why bother?

Over the years, the political climate has changed, taking on a more darker and sinister tone, a more corrupt gleam shines from the crystallizing evidence appearing before us all through whistle-blown revelation after revelation. David Icke has been one of the leading proponents in the exercise of alerting (and to some degree alarming) us all to the in-creep of corporate totalitarianism. When he first began...he was ridiculed and scoffed at, but not so much now, as the current climate presents much of his case for him. To be forewarned is to be forearmed, as the saying goes; and in being so forearmed...we can act. We can actually do something and make an impact.

The coming MEP elections in June provides each of us an opportunity. It affords us a target of excellent enterprise and fortuity, and I for one am going to sieze it with both hands...I am going to vote for my regional UKIP member to represent my protest to Europe, and also my protest and disavowance of the traditional tri-party system of Labour, Conservative, and Liberal. For the first time in my voting life, I am about to see my vote make an actual impact to which my conscience can nod in agreement.

Below are links to parts 1 and 2 of a UKIP presentation video by my regional MEP candidate (each about 8 minutes long). Before I watched the videos I read the UKIP manifesto and agreed with what it had to say.

http://www.ukip.org/content/video-zone/1020-paul-nuttall-addresses-lancashire-audience

Please, get out and vote on this most auspicious day!

[wildhorse]

before you vote...contact your UKIP candidate and ASK him/her views on certain issues.

Then ask them if they would be willing to sign the British Declaration of Independence ....just see if they are all for soverignity before giving them your vote. C*nts come in all colours remember. I have asked my UKIP member if he will sign this and so far, no response....

for more info on the BDI see this website... http://www.bdicampaign.org/

[tracker]

It's been a long time since I took part in our country's political process, for like many others I could not see the impact of my vote, so I thought why bother?

Over the years, the political climate has changed, taking on a more darker and sinister tone, a more corrupt gleam shines from the crystallizing evidence appearing before us all through whistle-blown revelation after revelation. David Icke has been one of the leading proponents in the exercise of alerting (and to some degree alarming) us all to the in-creep of corporate totalitarianism. When he first began...he was ridiculed and scoffed at, but not so much now, as the current climate presents much of his case for him. To be forewarned is to be forearmed, as the saying goes; and in being so forearmed...we can act. We can actually do something and make an impact.

The coming MEP elections in June provides each of us an opportunity. It affords us a target of excellent enterprise and fortuity, and I for one am going to sieze it with both hands...I am going to vote for my regional UKIP member to represent my protest to Europe, and also my protest and disavowance of the traditional tri-party system of Labour, Conservative, and Liberal. For the first time in my voting life, I am about to see my vote make an actual impact to which my conscience can nod in agreement.

Below are links to parts 1 and 2 of a UKIP presentation video by my regional MEP candidate (each about 8 minutes long). Before I watched the videos I read the UKIP manifesto and agreed with what it had to say.

http://www.ukip.org/content/video-zone/1020-paul-nuttall-addresses-lancashire-audience

Please, get out and vote on this most auspicious day!

take a look at this thread , some more info here .

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65219


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[citroen999]

i always wary of a politcal party that uses the £ sign in its logo

[pedsi]

I'm wary of political parties.

[xxxx]

does anyone else feel like this thread is a party political broadcast on behalf of the ukip party?

[decim]

does anyone else feel like this thread is a party political broadcast on behalf of the ukip party?

There is alot of it about.

Have you not been vaccinated.

Read the UKeyeP & illumimati thread in "general"

[elysiumfire]

XXXX:does anyone else feel like this thread is a party political broadcast on behalf of the ukip party?

Wow! There's no getting anything past you is there! I'm busted! Of course, it is a kind of advertisement for the UKIP, the clue is in the title, and I also give my reasons why in the prose. I am using the tools available to me to make a point.

I couldn't careless if your paranoid statements prove right, UKIP can be controlled by 'TPTB'. However, I don't believe they are. I could equally state that some of the statements appearing in this thread by others are from dis-info agents, and mis-directors. Who are we to trust?

We need a way out of this crap each of us have either slumbered into, or entered into wide-awake. Either way nothing has changed. I don't want a Labour or Tory, or Liberal candidate representing me in Europe, because their voice will not echo my protesting voice...I believe that a UKIP candidate will.

UKIP are the first fly in the ointment of the only system we have at our disposal, and I intend to use it to my thinking advantage. If their manifesto or principles change to something I disagree with, I will sever my support. We need to do something now, and a window of opportunity is there on the horizon offering a practical response for the electorate to show their anger in 'real' terms. I would counsel that we all grasp this opportunity while it is there.

[terryemm]

Illuminati on all sides?

[merlincove]

look on Dun and Bradstreet, for the company name of ukip and you'll see what they are all about.

Are ukip realy anti europe? it's all in the name :)

[elysiumfire]

terryemm:Illuminati on all sides?

I don't give a shit! Perhaps you'd prefer I just sat on my arse in front of my computer going to the links everyone provides regarding the 'Illuminati', as if they are links of fact, and support (not prove) the paranoid thoughts of the supplier of the links?

Many of you are very good at casting doubt and suspicion, but very ineffective for providing practical solutions. In fact, you're all about as useful as chocolate fireguards, and so are your links.

I'll bet you all believe you are 'awake', and are going about 'awakening' the so-called sheeple? What crusaders you are! No doubt the 'Illuminati' are quivering and shaking and trembling with all your efforts. "Oh Oh! Another link! We're done for now!" You're just a bunch of pretend crusaders, because it is the only way you can drum up anything of excitement in your dull, dullard lives.

You just don't get it do you. The system is corrupt, but it is the only thing we have at our disposal. It is the only thing we can use to fight back, right here, right now. I myself intend to use it in any way I can. I'm going to get off my arse and do something practical...I'm going to vote, and I'm going to do so against the tradition. I'm not going to vote BNP, because never in a thousand years can such a party represent my conscience.

Here are the UKIP principles...
The UK Independence Party is committed to withdrawing Britain from the European Union. As the debate on the Lisbon Treaty has now made clear, the EU agenda is complete political union, with all the main functions of national government taken over by the bureaucratic institutions of Brussels. UKIP believes that this is not only bad for Britain's economy and prosperity, but it is an alien system of government that will ultimately prove to be totally unacceptable to the British people.

UKIP would replace Britain's membership of the European Union with the kind of agreements on free trade and co-operation that we thought we had signed up to when we first joined what was then called the European Economic Community.

The UK Independence Party is the fourth largest political party in the UK. We currently have nine members of the European Parliament who use their positions exclusively to expose the true nature of the EU and to campaign for British withdrawal.

We would:

• Restore British sovereignty, which has been consistently reduced by successive Conservative and Labour governments as they sign up to an increasing number of European treaties and policies. Increasing interference in the British way of life has been imposed on us during the current Labour administration. Labour is determined to destroy our country, its culture and heritage.

• Take control of our national borders and impose our own immigration rules.

• Repatriate the many thousands of illegal immigrants who represent a significant risk to our national security and who create a drain on our already over-burdened resources. This Labour government displays little interest or ability in managing this crisis.

• Save £30 million per day currently paid into EU coffers, which can be better spent to benefit our country and protect its people.

• Rebuild our national fishing industry, which has been reduced to almost nothing, with the introduction of a strong fisheries protection fleet to protect our fish stocks. We also need to assist UK Customs & Excise in their fight against the illicit smuggling of drugs.

• Restore our national agriculture and protect the custodians of our precious countryside.

• Develop British democracy by encouraging the electorate to vote on contentious issues through referendums. Government by the people for the people!

• Reduce the oppressive regulation imposed on British businesses and exempt small businesses with less than 25 employees from the present damaging regulations imposed on them.

• Eradicate political correctness and replace it with free speech and common sense.

• Introduce a zero tolerance approach to assist in fighting crime, with effective practical deterrents.

• Scrap unelected regional assemblies such as SEERA & SEEDA and work towards the amalgamation of county and district councils. This would provide unitary authorities to replace the complicated and costly local government structures that we have today.

• UKIP is committed to the highest standards of animal welfare in the treatment of animals and for food production.

I like what it says, it resonates with me. Please show me where it says anything on subservience to the 'Illuminati', because I cannot find any reference?

[whiterain]

yeah get everyone onside by insulting us all. for what its worth if i was voting, it would be for ukip.i feel in power they would probly be even worse than current occupiers tho, but the supposed anti eu stance makes it all worthwhile, just so people will realise weve been duped into accepting an unaccountable fascist/socialist tyrant

[hawks29]

terryemm:

I don't give a shit! Perhaps you'd prefer I just sat on my arse in front of my computer going to the links everyone provides regarding the 'Illuminati', as if they are links of fact, and support (not prove) the paranoid thoughts of the supplier of the links?

Many of you are very good at casting doubt and suspicion, but very ineffective for providing practical solutions. In fact, you're all about as useful as chocolate fireguards, and so are your links.

I'll bet you all believe you are 'awake', and are going about 'awakening' the so-called sheeple? What crusaders you are! No doubt the 'Illuminati' are quivering and shaking and trembling with all your efforts. "Oh Oh! Another link! We're done for now!" You're just a bunch of pretend crusaders, because it is the only way you can drum up anything of excitement in your dull, dullard lives.

You just don't get it do you. The system is corrupt, but it is the only thing we have at our disposal. It is the only thing we can use to fight back, right here, right now. I myself intend to use it in any way I can. I'm going to get off my arse and do something practical...I'm going to vote, and I'm going to do so against the tradition. I'm not going to vote BNP, because never in a thousand years can such a party represent my conscience.

Here are the UKIP principles...


I like what it says, it resonates with me. Please show me where it says anything on subservience to the 'Illuminati', because I cannot find any reference?

What he said. Top post. Your 'protest' vote means one of the main 3 will get in by default.

[alzee]

I'm voting UKIP because they're the best option of the lot. I don't feel much political affiliation with them other than the fact they're anti-EU (and not racist).

Mind you, faced with the current selection of parties at a general election, I'd still be voting UKIP in the short term. Long term though, the Libertarians (http://lpuk.org/)policies resonate with me. They are the future.

[hawks29]

Are they not led by that chakrabati(sp?) Woman? Shes linked into all kinds of illuminati 'think tanks' is she not. Or am i getting puddled?

[alzee]

Are they not led by that chakrabati(sp?) Woman? Shes linked into all kinds of illuminati 'think tanks' is she not. Or am i getting puddled?

Sharmi Chakrabati heads up Liberty, the civil liberties pressure group. Shes nothing to do with the UK Libertarians, afaik.

If you're talking about UKIP, she's nowt to do with them either.

[merlincove]

i am yet agian with-holding my vote in protest. Vote and you allow the powers who want to be the power to rule you through stealth.

it makes no difference what the badge says on the door, get into the office and the same guy waits for you.

in my opinion if ukip, or the bnp suceede in winning seats, which i am sure they will, we will see the propogation of race hatred and un-equality across England - the local bnp leaflets have been very convincing that they will bring change for the british people - we have a lot of bnp councillors around here.

I think this is a part of the agenda to affect our freedoms, personally.

Look at how the engineering has come on so far. View how the EU has shaped itself without the UK, although it has been reachin its long arm of imposed regulations into our arena, anxiety at joining has been fuelled by the press. Migrant workers from poland etc have flooded the uk and fuelled the workplace as the doors were opened for them, exploiting the minimum wage. UKIP argue against the EU i would point anyone who believes this to check out their company details on Dun and Bradstreet, in particular their trading name and where they do business,

Alos i'd raise the question: why are our boys coming home from Iraq? Yes it is about time they did, they should never have been there in the first place, but that is a different issue, the issue i'm wondering about is why are they coming home? And i believe they are coming home to deal with an issue here, at home. And that issue can only be one of civil unrest. If the powers are bringing the soldiers home they are doing so for a reason, and it must be a big reason - Problem Reaction Solution? I think so.

If they are planning to bring the boys home, in a few months time, then what else is happening in a few months time?

It seems to coincide and then follow on from the elections?

Elections, soldiers coming home, just what are they planning?

I'm not a political animal, i'm more of a political buddhist - be the best concervative that you can, be the best labour you can be, lol. Just like religion it doesn't matter who you follow or who you align yourself with, it is the same concept of faith / governance at the end of the day.

I'm wary of ukip's agenda, and i'm wary of the bnp's agenda, especially in the wake of the news that soldiers are coming home.

What are those soldiers going to do? Lie around in their baracks all day, polishing their bullets? I think they will be policing the streets, alongside the boys in blue who are not aligned in oath to uphold the peace of this land, who have taken no oath to the qieen to uphold common law. And why would they be on the streets?

Is martial law just around the corner? i don't know, i can't honestly say, but it is a forecast that isn't a nice one, and the pieces are all there if you care for jigsaws.

i might be talking bollix, i'm open to that, and in all honesty i kinda hope that i am because i don't want to see martial law on the streets of britain, i don't want to see soldiers policing fear.

And maybe ukip are the best option, it would certainly seem so if you believe all the propoganda. But at the end of the day THEY don't allow us options, they just want us to believe that they do, they want us to believe that we have a choice, because in doing that it keeps a restless mob quiet.

Sorry to wander of on a tangent, just thought i'd throw in my pennies worth :cool:

We all know that any vote is a vote of compliance, whether we vote for a party that states none compliance or not - any vote is a stay of execution to our rights of freedom, with any vote that we make we surrender our power and allow them ownership of our choice and allow ourselves to be ruled by stealth. i thought we already knew this?

And, yeah, maybe we doall those things without voting too - but that is my option and one i whole heartedly insist on doing, it is a choice that offers me some hapiness.

And everyone else to should do what makes them happy. But don't expect the man with the bright smile and the nice tie to be any different to the other man with the bright smile and the nice tie :rolleyes:

penny worth over :cool:

[decim]

look on Dun and Bradstreet, for the company name of ukip and you'll see what they are all about.

Are ukip realy anti europe? it's all in the name :)

got a link?

[merlincove]

you have to pay to get on there, i'm hoping that someone may post a link to the info :rolleyes:

if i remember rightly ukip are something along the lines of Europepean Union PLC

And i was told this by an extremely reliable source who has access to Dun and Bradstreet (find them on google) though you and i would have to pay for the info from D&B. :rolleyes:

i thought my little tempter might tease someone in posting the info up...

[decim]

you have to pay to get on there, i'm hoping that someone may post a link to the info :rolleyes:

if i remember rightly ukip are something along the lines of Europepean Union PLC

And i was told this by an extremely reliable source who has access to Dun and Bradstreet (find them on google) though you and i would have to pay for the info from D&B. :rolleyes:

i thought my little tempter might tease someone in posting the info up...

A cunning plan.

[free thinker]

Why I'm Voting UKIP As My MEP.


And here's (http://www.thelondondailynews.com/pollbooth.php?action=do_comment&pollid=134&osCsid=rt9t5avhcpo6ssvcg36o8fiml5)why i'm not going to vote ukip

[rydeon]

I'm voting UKIP because they're the best option of the lot. I don't feel much political affiliation with them other than the fact they're anti-EU (and not racist).

Mind you, faced with the current selection of parties at a general election, I'd still be voting UKIP in the short term. Long term though, the Libertarians (http://lpuk.org/)policies resonate with me. They are the future.


Me too, but I don't feel UKIP are actually willing to pull out of the EU altogether. They want to try and keep one foot in Euroland and the other in Britain.
The Uk has done best when it's stood on its own two feet.

I'll be voting BNP and damn the upset it causes. They don't mess around and actually support the local population. There's a lot of poison spread about them but anyone who researches a party will see the truth is they aren't the monsters people shout about.

The illuminati on all sides bugs me as well. It's like somepeople are resigned to being slaves to some phantom or ghost that's in their minds or something so let's not vote for anyone. This is exactly what they want. The people who are awake but won't vote are the ones the PTB don't want to vote as they pose the threat.

[Ian2day]

terryemm:

I don't give a shit! Perhaps you'd prefer I just sat on my arse in front of my computer going to the links everyone provides regarding the 'Illuminati', as if they are links of fact, and support (not prove) the paranoid thoughts of the supplier of the links?

Many of you are very good at casting doubt and suspicion, but very ineffective for providing practical solutions. In fact, you're all about as useful as chocolate fireguards, and so are your links.

I'll bet you all believe you are 'awake', and are going about 'awakening' the so-called sheeple? What crusaders you are! No doubt the 'Illuminati' are quivering and shaking and trembling with all your efforts. "Oh Oh! Another link! We're done for now!" You're just a bunch of pretend crusaders, because it is the only way you can drum up anything of excitement in your dull, dullard lives.

You just don't get it do you. The system is corrupt, but it is the only thing we have at our disposal. It is the only thing we can use to fight back, right here, right now. I myself intend to use it in any way I can. I'm going to get off my arse and do something practical...I'm going to vote, and I'm going to do so against the tradition. I'm not going to vote BNP, because never in a thousand years can such a party represent my conscience.

Here are the UKIP principles...


I like what it says, it resonates with me. Please show me where it says anything on subservience to the 'Illuminati', because I cannot find any reference?

I have posted before my system of CR's instead of MP's. Perhaps it was on one of the earlier Icke forums. I don't think that there is just one solution though. As we each have individual lifes, then we each will have conflicting ideas of what will work. These ideas will modify over time depending on what personal experiences we have been through.

[elysiumfire]

Ian2Day:I don't think that there is just one solution though. As we each have individual lifes, then we each will have conflicting ideas of what will work. These ideas will modify over time depending on what personal experiences we have been through.

Yes, Ian, I quite agree. Yet, in speaking of individual lives, if any of us find ourselves in a rut and routine that is bereft of satisfaction and happiness, we change it through action, which modifies the current experience with new ones. We will succeed in some, whilst others fail and are dropped by the wayside. The operative wording is 'to act'. I don't like it when people say we ought not to do 'anything' because it won't change 'anything'...all it does is to support apathy, the one attitude that has put us all in this position.

[mr jones]

why is voting for one of the smaller parties being called a protest vote by the main parties? isn't it possible that the British people actually want to get rid of the lib-lab-con party?

abit off topic i know, but i just wondered why ukip and bnp etc. are being called protest votes. Are the politicians trying to undermind the public?