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milone
14-05-2009, 02:46 PM
Obama mulls 'indefinite detention' of terror suspects


WASHINGTON (AFP) - As part of its plans to close Guantanamo Bay, the Obama administration is considering holding some of the detainees indefinitely and without trial on US soil, US media reported Thursday.


President Barack Obama's "administration is weighing plans to detain some terror suspects on US soil -- indefinitely and without trial -- as part of a plan to retool military commission trials that were conducted for prisoners held in Guantanamo Bay," The Wall Street Journal said.


The proposal, which is part of the administration's internal deliberations on how to deal with the prisoners ahead of a planned closure of the controversial US military prison next year, is being shared with some lawmakers, it added.


White House officials contacted by AFP had no immediate comment on the detainee deliberations.


Republican Senator Lindsey Graham, who met with White House Counsel Greg Craig this week about the Guantanamo plans, told the Journal that the administration was namely seeking authority for indefinite detentions granted by a national security court.


"This is a difficult question. How do you hold someone in prison without a trial indefinitely?" asked Graham, who, along with former Republican presidential nominee Senator John McCain, has pressed for reinstating the military commissions to try Guantanamo detainees.


The Journal noted that "the idea of a new national security court has been discussed widely in legal circles," including by Michael Mukasey, who served as attorney general under president George W. Bush and Neal Katyal, a Justice Department official serving under the Obama administration.


US officials told AFP that Obama is set to announce this week that he is reviving the military trials for terror suspects held at the US naval base at Guantanamo Bay, in southern Cuba.


But Obama, who sharply criticized the use of military commissions to try extremists under Bush, may ask lawmakers to expand legal protections for detainees, the officials said, requesting anonymity due to the sensitivity of the matter.


The Senate Appropriations Committee is set to take up legislation Thursday granting Obama's request for 80 million dollars to shutter the facility by January 22, 2010 -- but attaching strict conditions, among them forbidding the use of new money to ship any detainees to the United States.

brainstormer
14-05-2009, 02:47 PM
Source?

milone
14-05-2009, 03:07 PM
Yahoo News.

brainstormer
14-05-2009, 03:10 PM
link?

markomac
14-05-2009, 03:21 PM
Obama mulls 'indefinite detention' of terror suspects


WASHINGTON (AFP) - As part of its plans to close Guantanamo Bay, the Obama administration is considering holding some of the detainees indefinitely and without trial on US soil, US media reported Thursday.


President Barack Obama's "administration is weighing plans to detain some terror suspects on US soil -- indefinitely and without trial -- as part of a plan to retool military commission trials that were conducted for prisoners held in Guantanamo Bay," The Wall Street Journal said.


The proposal, which is part of the administration's internal deliberations on how to deal with the prisoners ahead of a planned closure of the controversial US military prison next year, is being shared with some lawmakers, it added.


White House officials contacted by AFP had no immediate comment on the detainee deliberations.


Republican Senator Lindsey Graham, who met with White House Counsel Greg Craig this week about the Guantanamo plans, told the Journal that the administration was namely seeking authority for indefinite detentions granted by a national security court.


"This is a difficult question. How do you hold someone in prison without a trial indefinitely?" asked Graham, who, along with former Republican presidential nominee Senator John McCain, has pressed for reinstating the military commissions to try Guantanamo detainees.


The Journal noted that "the idea of a new national security court has been discussed widely in legal circles," including by Michael Mukasey, who served as attorney general under president George W. Bush and Neal Katyal, a Justice Department official serving under the Obama administration.


US officials told AFP that Obama is set to announce this week that he is reviving the military trials for terror suspects held at the US naval base at Guantanamo Bay, in southern Cuba.


But Obama, who sharply criticized the use of military commissions to try extremists under Bush, may ask lawmakers to expand legal protections for detainees, the officials said, requesting anonymity due to the sensitivity of the matter.


The Senate Appropriations Committee is set to take up legislation Thursday granting Obama's request for 80 million dollars to shutter the facility by January 22, 2010 -- but attaching strict conditions, among them forbidding the use of new money to ship any detainees to the United States.

Not our saviour fudging again! I just posted his u-turn on publishing the iraqi abuse images.

Not so much an Obama Deception now is it. It's in plain sight for all to see.

Keep dangling them carrots boy!

decim
14-05-2009, 03:29 PM
Not our saviour fudging again! I just posted his u-turn on publishing the iraqi abuse images.

Not so much an Obama Deception now is it. It's in plain sight for all to see.

Keep dangling them carrots boy!


http://papundits.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/obamasavior.jpg

real6
14-05-2009, 03:34 PM
Yahoo News.

Thanks for nothing....

milone
14-05-2009, 03:48 PM
what thanks for nothing???? Find the story yourselves its out there. GO to Yahoo News and look for it. Why do people have to be spoon fed in this forum.

kasalt
14-05-2009, 03:54 PM
what thanks for nothing???? Find the story yourselves its out there. GO to Yahoo News and look for it. Why do people have to be spoon fed in this forum.

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deem
14-05-2009, 04:01 PM
Obuma speak with fork tongue.

markomac
14-05-2009, 04:39 PM
Obuma speak with fork tongue.

He doesn't so much 'speak' as 'read'.

I am looking for a music video, when I say look I mean I haven't remembered to youtube it yet, for a song called 'year 2000' by Silverchair.

I am sure it has this women 'president' who is basically a robot and it reminded me of Obama. I am sure it has a lot of riot style shots as well. I just know I love the song and I think Silverchair are a cracking band that I need to look up again.

No doubt some smart sod will post the video......(thats double speak for 'please post the video' for my lazy ass while im at work and cant access u-toob.)

:D

oneup
14-05-2009, 05:01 PM
here is the link: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090514/pl_afp/usattacksguantanamodetention_20090514105450

first result when searching for 'detainees indefinitely'

sac123abc
14-05-2009, 06:29 PM
GUESS CHENEY GOT TO HIM, You didnt think that Cheney being on the news these past 2 weeks he wasnt sending a signal?? Come on be smarter than that.

largejack
14-05-2009, 08:11 PM
Cheeney is deliberately trying to give the false impression that Obama is against torture and all the cohesion tactics employed by the Bush administration, to make Obama look good. It's obvious. Cheeney shouldn't even be speaking, he should be locked up in a prison cell, and if Obama was true as he says he is, then he would have done that already.

leviathanstaar
14-05-2009, 08:19 PM
Since the trials would never be real in the first place, they are just rounding down a few costs about the formalities.

ziegenfarm
14-05-2009, 08:32 PM
i would just like to add a couple of things:

1. detainees cannot be held indefinately without trial. they can be held as long as we are at war, but saying that they can be held indefinately is not correct.

2. if they are actually held on american soil there are certain legal rights that apply. so long as they are not held on american soil, they have none of these rights. this is the reason why they have been held in cuba.

burnttoast
14-05-2009, 09:54 PM
i would just like to add a couple of things:

1. detainees cannot be held indefinately without trial. they can be held as long as we are at war, but saying that they can be held indefinately is not correct.

2. if they are actually held on american soil there are certain legal rights that apply. so long as they are not held on american soil, they have none of these rights. this is the reason why they have been held in cuba.

Great info ziegenfarm.....god how I hate "their" f*&kin legal backdoor shite making it all nicey nice for the headlines.