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lapis
21-07-2007, 12:33 AM
For the past week I've been pondering whether or not to post about this....but I think it's important and hopefully it will help some folks here to understand me a bit better. On the other hand, I sure as hell don't want to pour gas on any "conspiracy" fires! The old "controllers" won't get any help from me from any level of consciousness. So with that said, I'd like to share something that I realized recently.

Those of you who know me from other forums may remember me mentioning that I'm a 'sensitive' or 'psychic' and have been all my life. I bring this up only because it ties into this long line of maneuvers by the old "controllers" that I've been aware of over the decades and kept my mouth shut about for the most part. Like I said, I'm not ever going to make their jobs easier for them and that's been my main reason for not publically talking about certain things that I've experienced because of them. I will not empower or assist those people - but I sure as hell have been paying attention on many levels for decades, learing how some of this crap works.

About 6 years ago I had a small series of UFO dreams that I felt were rather strange when I had them. I can tell the difference between certain dreams; which are different layers of me/mine, and, any dreams which are coming from outside of myself. In other words, someone or something besides me/Lapis is creating a dream scenario but I've gotten sucked into it for different reasons. In this case, it was I believe, only because I am a sensitive and could also retain the memory of it after waking up. This is a really important aspect of all this.

I'm talking about a handful of dreams that entailed being outside in the daylight and seeing, along with other people and neighbors etc., thousands and thousands of UFOs all silently flying very low right overhead. In these dreams it was basically always the same dream with only slight variations. One would be in full daylight, another would be a night, another would be with more people all seeing the massive numbers of UFOs and getting increasingly scared about what was possibly happening. See how the "dream" was escalating to imprint an idea or belief AND to generate increasing fears in the people viewing (through the dreams) the UFOs?

Then a couple years after my own dreams about this massive UFO sort of invasion, I started seeing a few people on forums posting about having the same dream! I read these posts by other people from all around the planet and I wondered long and hard because it didn't feel right or correct to me. Then a few days ago many of these pieces suddenly fell into place and I understood some clever devious things.

I realized that, most likely, the old human global "controllers" are the creators of these massive UFO invasion dreams! And, that this artifically created "dream" event was (and probably still is) being broadcast across the planet (my guess is probably from their own satellite systems) with the sensitives, psychics, and people more able to retain memory of these created "dreams" after they wake up being the first group to perceive these broadcasts. I'd also bet that they'd expect us (sensitives and psychics etc) to talk about the dreams and believe them to be something we 'picked up' psychically and so....it must be an actual upcoming physical event!!! :eek: Clever clever little *&#@*! aren't they? Needless to say I don't personally believe for a second that one or many thousands of UFOs are going to be seen in our skys or land on Earth....period. I sense that this is another one of their well and long planned subtle "mind controlled" insertions into the mass consciousness for the sole purpose of further controlling us.

Well, some of us sensitives can discern the energetic differences between dream experiences (and other things) and we also know our own inner selves well enough to recognize what's not ours but someone else's creation and astral manipulation. In other words.....these sorry jerks not only feed us conscious disinformation and "mind controlled" crap while awake, they also do it while we're asleep dreaming. If you're able to retain conscious memory of these deliberate UFO invasion type dreams, then all the better for them IF we buy into what we've perceived and are NOT able to discern frequencies and different levels of energies and consciousness. It also helps a lot to have previous personal experience with higher dimensional non-physical positive Beings so you already know that these Beings simply don't need any form of UFO to get around. ;)

Please do not start fearing and doubting your own dreams because I've sharing this insight about the UFO dreams. Like I keep saying.....learn to discern so you'll know what's what all on your own and won't need anyone else to define "reality" for you.

tinmenace
21-07-2007, 12:45 AM
Thank you, Lapis :)

graflok
21-07-2007, 02:13 AM
Interesting post. I think you've got it nailed, lapis. I've also had dreams where
I realized they were messing with me.

I'm reading a book right now: Our Haunted Planet by John Keel. I'm not
entirely sure which side Keel is on but I find his books fascinating regardless.
He also wrote The Mothman Prophecies.

In Our Haunted Planet he writes about what he calls the "ultraterrestrials,"
referring to strange beings that appear to certain people and create all sorts of
mischief and influence us in strange ways. They are the ones who really seem
to run the world. This dream thing seems like it's in the same vein.

thomascovenant
21-07-2007, 02:47 AM
Hi again Lapis.That post of yours went right up my flagpole.

I`ve already posted this somewhere on here, I forget where.I think I have experienced exactly what you are talking about.I was in my back yard, looking East when a large fleet of `craft` came into view, moving from North to South.They were silent and firing projectiles that looked like red lightning.There were no people visible but it did feel like other ppl were aware of it.

This is one of those times when a dream feels hyper-real.
Is this the feeling you describe?There have been others, quite a few over the years.Do you think the feeling of hyperreality is connected to a dream being `external`?

friendsinthesky
21-07-2007, 05:03 AM
Yr's ago I had a dream about a "police" UFO chasing another UFO. BUT the impression I got from that dream is that the "police" UFO are the bad guys.

lookfar
21-07-2007, 12:11 PM
Hi lapis

There's some very important information there, thanks for sharing with us :)

infinitetruth
21-07-2007, 03:04 PM
Good Post!!

Then all then need to do is chip us all, give us a mass UFO halucination and we will believe it since our dreams have forewarned us.

i am all i am
21-07-2007, 04:40 PM
I LOVE YOU.

G'day Lapis.

You've got it nailed sunshine.

I have pondered upon this because I do not dream. I believe that I have blocked the signal that is projected, thereby blocking my own dreams as well.

There is an interesting correlation with this and the beginning of 'Highlander 3'. If you get the opportunity to have a look at the film, you'll see what I mean in the beginning of it where the main character is 'connected' and projecting thought patterns, energy. Another instance when they are telling us what it is that they do, and we can only understand if we 'have eyes to see and ears to hear' the message.

THANK YOU.



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lapis
21-07-2007, 10:42 PM
graflok,

I'm not familiar with John Keel or his books, concepts, but Our Haunted Planet sounds very interesting and well worth reading. Thanks.

This is a complex multi-layered subject we're all trying to talk about here and my first post was dealing strickly with the human powers-that-be and their technology, their different electronic waves in the equipment etc. that pound us constantly now. No ETs.....only some humans wanting to continue their control and power over the planetary masses and utilizing the current technologies to do so.

Now however, I'm going to step to another level and say that like you, I too have experienced some strange "dream" events in the past that I believe were manufactured by non-physical, non-human beings. So we seem to have (up to a certain point that is and I hope to get into this later on this thread) 2 or 3 different ways that many of us have/are being deliberately manipulated by both human and non-human beings.

1) By the human "controllers" and their high tech gadgets that I personally know very little about other than they mess me up big-time! (This is what I was talking about in my first post above.)

2) By what I've perceived as (and could be wrong) lower level non-human other dimensional beings. (Every time I've been sucked into one of these "dream" experiences, it was so obviously staged and blatantly manipulated. They all were also very vivid and emotionally intense and there's a big clue right there! A huge "set-up" to induce specific intense emotions in me or the "dreamer".)

So....lots going on at unseen levels as usual. But I must add that I personally believe we're all in the midst of this changing in huge ways now. Good ways I mean ;) .

lapis
21-07-2007, 11:02 PM
Good Post!!

Then all then need to do is chip us all, give us a mass UFO halucination and we will believe it since our dreams have forewarned us.

infinitetruth,

Thank you. :)

Hell I don't even think they need to "chip" any of us at this point! We're already so electronically chipped from all the massive and constant bombardment of all the latest and greatest technologies. Those satellite's up there, the ones we really know absolutely nothing about, make me highly suspicious as to what exactly is being broadcast to earth/humanity from them?? If some of them broadcast all the TV programs then I'd suspect all sorts of other programs could/are also being broadcast too. I haven't read any books about any of this; I'm speaking only from an intuitive level of awareness please understand. So I could be wildly wrong....but I doubt it.

Another thing I suspect may be coming in our near futures (about this UFO business especially) is really high tech projections or holographic projections that we'll each have to discern whether it's "real" or manufactured "real"?!? ;) Personally I've seen way too many ultra weird things already that felt strange to me at the time and I've wondered if it was a created projection from some of our own physical technologies up in the sky above us? Again....the great need to learn to discern even things in our faces that look and sound totally solid and physical and yet may not be! Our own inner frequency rates will help us all with this one if and when it shows up in our physical "reality".

lapis
21-07-2007, 11:15 PM
thomascovenant,

Boy that sounds exactly like the same sort of UFO "dream" I and so many others have experienced!

Oh, love your new voyeuristic kitten avatar. :D

About these created "dreams" feeling as you put it, "hyper-real"...I mentioned a bit about this already but for me personally, all of these manufactured "dream" experiences have been abnormally vivid, high drama, intensely emotional, and usually felt very, very, staged and artifical. Some of them felt like someone had scanned my thoughts/emotional issues and found some of my personl emotional "buttons" and then they created an artifical "dream" that used some of them to induce specific emotions and emotional reactions from me. The rest of it all was stage dressing!

So when/if you find yourself in some weird dream that feels like a staged cheesy soap opera drama that is working you emotionally like crazy.....then you can be pretty certain that the whole "dream" is a created one and not created by you necessarily!

zoloko
22-07-2007, 01:06 AM
I LOVE YOU!

When I was four years old I "dreamt" That 7 monkeys came and placed themself around my bed. They tuched me all over and put sharp things under my toenails, it hurt a lot, but I couldnīt scream! When I looked around I notised there where reptiles on one of our chairs!! Later in life I heard about "The Grayīs" and read about otherīs having the exact same "dreams"??
THANK YOU!

thomascovenant
22-07-2007, 01:59 AM
Thanks Lapis, seems to make sense.After all, the fat controller isn`t really known for his creative thinking.As for the dreams, I can only really tell after I`ve woken up.I tend to get carried along by them.Theres often an unnamed "they" responsible for whatever drama I`m starring in.It hadn`t occured to me that "they" might be the proverbial "they".Now I`ve confused myself.Cool.

Ta very much BTW, I thought ceiling cat might make people smile.:D

Ha Ha..............Psirens.........And I was the first to die.

Didn`t see that coming.;)